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K-State Slate: 2.20.12

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K-State Basketball

Big doesn't begin to describe K-State's 57-56 win over Baylor on Saturday in Waco. The win ended a three-game losing streak and, for the time being, shores up K-State's NCAA Tournament résumé.

Speaking of the Dance, on Friday Austin Meek wrote that K-State was trending toward the opening games in Dayton, if it made the tournament at all. Take care of business the rest of the way, and the Wildcats shouldn't need to be concerned about that.

In other words, the Wildcats took advantage of one of their few remaining opportunities to pick up signature wins. Not that K-State is lacking in that department compared to most of its bubble companions, but knocking off another top-10 team never hurts.

With the win, K-State reversed the close-game curse that has haunted it all season. Let's hope it's the type of win that snaps the team out of their previous rut.

Much-maligned junior Jordan Henriquez played a big part in K-State's crucial win. Two of Henriquez's three blocked shots in the game came in the closing minutes.

K-State Women's Basketball

Tasha Dickey led K-State to another win over Texas, as the Wildcats routed the Longhorns, 65-45, Saturday in Manhattan.

K-State Baseball

The Bat Cats kicked off the season with a win, but dropped to 1-1 with a loss Sunday to Cal State-Bakersfield. The series concludes today at 4:00 p.m.

College baseball teams are finally adjusting to the new bats that were introduced last season.

Big 12 Basketball

Oklahoma State put Texas back on the bubble with a 90-78 win over the Longhorns in Stillwater, keyed by Keiton Page's 40 (!) points ... Missouri took care of business in its first win over Texas A&M in College Station since 2001, beating the Aggies 71-62 ... Iowa State swept Oklahoma with an 80-69 win in Ames ... and KU won a forgettable game in Lawrence over Texas Tech, 83-50.

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The Cats had lost two in a row, not three - @ UT and then home against KU. They had beated the awful Dog Lovers and TTs the week before.

Team report – http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=teamreports-2012-ncaab-kab

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 8:20 AM CST reply actions  

You mean stopping a three-game losing streak isn't the same...

…as avoiding a three-game losing streak? I’m mentally non-functional sometimes. Thanks for pointing that out.

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Feb 20, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm happy to help. I appreciate you getting these up and running all the time, usually before I'm even up.

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

You. Are. Welcome.

The Purple Store

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Feb 20, 2012 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

Welp, there goes my savings account.

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Feb 20, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

That would go great with the sloped back purple chaise lounge.

FWIW

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Feb 20, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank god we won

This win couldn’t have come at a better time. Its amazing how one game can turn around all those negative thoughts. The best part is I actually was able to watch it in KC.

K-S-U ! we'll carry thy banner high

K-S-U ! long long may thy colors fly

by motown wildcat on Feb 20, 2012 9:36 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

The part about Tom Osborne's integrity is good for a long belly laugh.

Great integrity, as long as you overlook the punks and thugs he continued to play while they faced charges of assault, physical abuse and whatever else you can think of.

If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.

by ArkieCat on Feb 20, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow and they act as if we were the petty ones?

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Feb 20, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow... not the Martin way, huh?

If Nebraska is going AAU, it’s a different AAU than Frank Martin at Kansas State.

In recent years, I’ve asked the question, if Kansas State can transform its program, why can’t NU? At least one former Husker and several fans told me they wouldn’t want to win that way or pay an assistant coach $300,000 to recruit.

Well, the K-State way won at Baylor on Saturday and likely secured another NCAA spot for the ‘Cats. Is K-State going on probation? Under investigation? And who wouldn’t want a player like former Wildcat Jacob Pullen on the roster?

by iCatDormRat on Feb 20, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

Nebraska fans conveniently forget...

…that K-State’s 20 years in the wilderness were the worst 20 years K-State has ever had in basketball, but would have been considered an average stretch of play by Nebraska’s standards.

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Feb 20, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

ISU with success really puts them over the top with envy.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

They also don't care to notice that

almost none of Delonte’s guys are even still on the, and he is no longer with the program (hmmm, interesting). And that Jacob was a 3-star kid who was tough, learned a ton, and got molded into a great player by Frank Martin (sounds like a good coach to me).

Also, like you say TB, K-State has tradition to fall back on. Hall-of-Fame guys like Tex Winter and Jack Hartman roamed the sidelines, and guys like Bob Boozer (only man in college who could shut down Wilt), Rolando Blackmon, and Mitch Richmond played here. Yeah, there was that troubling time after the move to Bramlage and Lonnie left, then Altman was on too short a leash, then someone (who was the AD at the time???) made the ginormus mistake of hiring Tom Asbury. But if you forget the 90’s and early 00’s (and who hasnt?) there is a lot of history and winning tradition there. NU doesnt have that, whatsoever. As dominant as they were on the gridiron, they were equally as unimpressive on the hardwood. From Wikipedia:

While the University of Nebraska has experienced varying amounts of success for their intercollegiate athletic programs, men’s basketball has been an exception. NU hasn’t won a conference title since sharing the Big Seven Conference with Kansas and Kansas State in 1950, and they haven’t won an outright conference title since going a perfect 12-0 through the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association in 1916.
Nebraska has the distinction of being one of only three BCS programs to have never won a single game in the NCAA Tournament, with Northwestern and South Florida completing the list. In fact, in the over 90 years of varsity competition at the University, the first trip to the NCAA Tournament for Nebraska did not come until 1986.

by jtarkman on Feb 20, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Jamar and Rod were both Delonte, right?

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, thats right

and JO and Paradox were partially recruited by him too.

But so were:(fully) Beasley, Ron Anderson, Dom Sutton, Wally Judge and (partially) Nick Russell, and Jacob Pullen.
So at least he was doing his job, unfortunately only 2 (Beasley, McGruder; jury is still out on Jamar) have really panned out like we thought they would (or should). I guess that’s not absolutely terrible, and we really shouldn’t be too mad at the guy, but the Wally Judge disaster (along with Ron Anderson doing well elsewhere and Dom leaving) was a lot to take.

by jtarkman on Feb 20, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would such a history-minded fanbase do that to themselves?

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Feb 20, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

bracketology puts us as a 9 seed today

it’s good to be in the tourney, but i’d prefer to be a 6 seed (not likely) or an 11-14 seed. That 8-9 seed is the kiss of death and all but ends any chance of a sweet 16.

by k-stater86 on Feb 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

A six or and 11 seed would set us up with some winable games.

by iCatDormRat on Feb 20, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

But one #1 usually loses in the 2nd round (insert KU joke here:________________)

Why not have the Cats beat that slimeball Calipari, or devour Boeheim’s zone (every time I think about how the Cats smoked Baylor’s zone I cry a little)? MU/KU won’t be in the same region as the Cats, and to be honest, I want no part of Tom Izzo.

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Would you rather have Duke?

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Feb 20, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats a tough one.

I tend to think that duke may be slightly over rated and they would have a worse record if they played in the big 12, big 10, or even sec.

by EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) on Feb 20, 2012 3:10 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Not overrated. I want no part of them.

FSU is not a good candidate either.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Feb 20, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Syracuse zone

is a terrible matchup for a team that struggles to shoot 30% from beyond the arc

by ksu&warpaint on Feb 20, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

We'd definitely need to get a couple players hot, but we have players with the talent

And it’s a mistake to think you have to shoot over a zone. In fact, that’s exactly the mistake zones try to force you into, and why Syracuse’s defense is so good. The key is getting good play at the high post and short corners.

by smitty3268 on Feb 20, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I want no part of a Syracuse zone...we don't have the ball handlers / passers to force it to move.

I don’t think 57 points will beat Syracuse.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Feb 21, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't put my finger on it.

The Orange don’t scare me.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Feb 21, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

We destroyed Baylor's zone in the first game

Syracuse would be better, and I doubt we’d win. But i’m not especially afraid of their zone – I wouldn’t pick us to beat any top 10 team, not just Syracuse. (Baylor is not a top 10 team).

by smitty3268 on Feb 21, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

And they aren't very long.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Feb 21, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

So at this point I am assuming that

The lack of depth in pitching is really going to hurt the bat cats this year as they just fell 7-3 to CS-Bakersfield? To much to ask for a fourth straight regional appearance you think?

by Kohawk84 on Feb 20, 2012 11:49 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

To be fair Bakersfield has had some decent teams

so I wouldn’t say that’s a bad loss, necessarily. Hill only had for for-sure starter going int the season in Applegate, so I suspect these first few series will be spent trying to figure out the rest of the rotation. Biggest losses from last year are Marshall and Allen (reliever and closer), and those guys are often tough to replace. There’s a reason that MLB clubs pay those guys lots of money to only pitch 1-2 innings a game (in general)

by jtarkman on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Hill clearly knows what he's doing. This is WAY too early in the season to make any kind of judgements on what the team will look like come May, but the pre-season stuff I've read says the same thing.

Hill needs to find pitching. I’m sure he will, but it will take a while.

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

He needs to find Saturday/Sunday and mid-week starters

I have a feeling that Matt Applegate is going to put up A.J. Morris-like numbers this year

by jtarkman on Feb 20, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You think so? That would be awesome. Even 75% of Morris would be fantastic.

What about Kayvon Brazamahandezsaslkjavoier? My buddy’s high on him this season.

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Has been a reliever ever since he pulled his hammy a couple years ago

he was on his way to becoming a star, but didn’t have the same pop last year. I would love to see him start though, I think he could be a solid Sunday/Mid-week starter

by jtarkman on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha

I hadn’t heard this about Finney: ""Sadly enough, I get told that all the time," Finney told The Wichita Eagle in August. “I guess I look like a coach. Between wrestling and football, people are always coming up to me and asking, ‘Are you a coach?’ No, I’m a player. A freshman, actually.”" – http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/andy_staples/02/20/all-two-star-team/index.html?sct=cf_t11_a0

"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." - Ephesians 4:29

by Sean T on Feb 20, 2012 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

I know with the Tiggers leaving the unholy alliance was thrown out the window...

But have we officially entered “Hate Week Day”?

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Feb 20, 2012 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

The way I see it this game is really a no lose.

If we win we win, but if we lose than there is still a chance that mizzou will end ku’s conference championship streak, which as a k-stater living just outside of larryville is something I would really like to see happen.

by EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) on Feb 20, 2012 4:43 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

This is one case where I am not actively rooting against the Jayhawks.

I don’t want Mizzou to win this conference on the way out.

So for me, this is not a no-lose situation. If we lose, that is a loss with zero silver lining for me.

My sig needs updated.

by ChrisP Wildcat on Feb 20, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping for us to sweep Mizzou

And Mizzou to sweep KU as unlikely as that probably is. If KU wins the deal because of us, we sure as hell won’t hear as much talking from them as usual and even if we do we can brush it off with a laugh.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Feb 20, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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