Open Game Thread: K-State vs. Missouri
by TB on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM CST
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PrintMissouri Tigers at Kansas St. Wildcats, Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM CST
Who: K-State vs. Missouri
When: January 7, 2012 | 12:30 p.m.
Where: Manhattan, Kan. | Bramlage Coliseum (12,358)
Media: Big 12 Network/ESPN Full Court | 1350 KMAN
At 0-1 in the conference, K-State returns home in desperate need of a win. Unfortunately, the opponent is undefeated Missouri, a team that knows it needs to win games like this if it has Big 12 championship aspirations. The K-State/Missouri series has been hard on fans' blood pressure the last few years, and this one should be just as much of a war as previous versions.
Go Cats!
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Sorry I had everyone worried but I’m ok and thanks for the support from my family and the wildcat nation family THANK YOU K-State
Glad he is doing okay.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
That's great.
He was playing a heck of a game until the injury. Hopefully a sign of what we’ll get from him next year.
I saw him moving around right after Lamur slammed into him so I figured it wasn't too bad.
The guys who drop like a sack of taters are the ones I worry about. It will be great to have him and Davis back next year. Was this their best combined game of the season?
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"best combined game" - yes, I think so
Keys to game:
1. early offensive miscues;
2. blown no call on punt return
3. losing Meshak – limited the packages we could run on D in second half
4. CK failing to run for the first down, just prior to the returned punt
I think we all knew that we couldn’t miss on any pistons if we were going to win. Arkie had a darn good defensive game plan, and Wilson is a darn good QB.
Very proud of the effort our kids gave. Arkie just had a few more players on each side of the line.
Fantastic football season.
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this.
Was very impressed with the defensive effort…they did everything they could to keep the game within reach. Some of the field position we gave them was an immediate death sentence, and we held strong. I thing it’s a much different outcome if the offensive line would have played the whole game instead of the 2 or 3 possessions we got.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 12:27 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We didn't have the best game plan (or execution) and we made mistakes.
Not a good combination for a win.
Arkie I think outplayed us and had a better game plan.
I do like this team a bunch and can’t wait for next year.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
I blame execution more than game plan
I think if that first big run by klein hadn’t been called back the out come may have been different
Yes but that was the only misdirection play I remember.
And it worked except for the penalty.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
The TD pass was the other.
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why we didn't do more misdirection was a big ? on our offensive plan
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The whole offensive "gameplan" was an insult to the term
Dimel and Miller lost the game.
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Agree quite a bit with this sentiment, Sean
BUT…Dimel and Miller didn’t drop numerous passes that hit them in the hands. Dimel and Miller didn’t decide to idiotically (beyond mental comprehension the crown move of idiocy) catch a punt – running backwards! – at the 2-yard line (TT). I’m guessing here that it wasn’t Dimel and MIller’s decision to punt on 4th-and-5 at the Arkie 35 (after calling a timeout, no less!), the brilliance of which resulted in a net field position change of 15 yards. And finally, Dimel and Miller didn’t totally, completely, shank a very make-able field goal in the clutch.
Other than that, I’m all aboard the offensive play-calling/adjustment/preparation performance was deserving of a solid F-.
That's a good point about the drops - awful performance for too long
Thompson’s stupidity with that punt is inexcusable.
But they couldn’t run, at all, against an awful running team?
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Yeah, that frustrated me,too
But the one area where they clearly held a physical edge over us was on their D-line. Those guys just blasted our offensive linemen all game long. By the time their RE got those back-to-back sacks on Klein late in the game our O-line had been totally spanked. This very matchup – D-line versus O-line – has more than anything else been the single area where SEC teams have dominated the other conferences.
I’m still pissed off about Thompson’s stupidity on that punt return. Positively mind-boggling. I mean fuck, didn’t he even learn that in pee-wee ball? Zero excuse. In a game where the field position battle is clearly being lost early-on and the D is holding on desperately he goes and hands the opponent 3 points (and we were lucky it was only 3). Should have had his scholarship revoked right at that moment. Even at 40 I could have gone down on the field and done better on that play. Still steams me.
Yeah three straight penalties and a fumble inside your ten really put the hammer down early.
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This will sound strange,
but I felt at that point in the game that Snyder should have just punted there, even if it was only 2nd or 3rd down (and 33). There was about a -30 percent chance that we convert in that situation. Hell, simply having Klein quick-kick the damn ball (as to prevent Adams being on the field in obvious special teams down) might have been better.
I called it in the game thread - before the fumbe
I said “jus run it 2 times and punt” … I could sense a bad thing coming. I was highly disappointed in Snyder’s decision to drop back and pass on 2nd and 28, because we were out of kilter … and it is when we get out of kilter when bad things happen.
And there were at least 2 times in the 4th qtr where we were at 2nd and 6 or so, we were clearly in 4 down territory, and we don’t try running it twice. I couldn’t figure that out … play calling … big fail.
But effort by the D was great. And after we got over our first qtr jitters, the receivers played okay. Broderick and Harper didn’t have good games, and why we don’t get the tight end involved more, I’ll never understand.
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Yup, I'm pretty much on board with all your sentiments here
The only (very slight) exception I’d make – and I know the conventional football fan doesn’t (or won’t) quite grasp this – is that I wouldn’t have run anything on 2nd down other than tell Klein to take the snap and punt the ball (or hell, if run in practice and you find Pease boots it better, just have him do it out of the Wildcat).
Of all the gimmicky edges Snyder is renowned for, I’m unsure why the quick-kick is not in the playbook. Klein wouldn’t have had to boot it 45 yards – just get the damn thing off. The value here is that Adams would NOT be out on the field because Arkie would have no inkling of what was coming.
hadn't thought of the old quick kick -
not a bad idea, just to make sure Adams isn’t returning the ball.
But for all the reputation Snyder has for having some “gimmick” plays, he rarely uses them. I’ll bet the reason he doesn’t do “quick kick” is he doesn’t want to “spend time” on the play in practice, because it does have to be executed well or it can backfire big time.
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Good point about Snyder
Not a hard play to execute at all and would have come in extremely handy at that moment of the game.
Here come the asshat articles on how the SEC is dominant...
Of course, he writes the article behind the cover of not allowing comments. So we have one head to head match up and everything is proven. Also this guy must have been watching a different game then I saw. Because it was obvious that both teams were evenly matched. K-State made the majority of the mistakes and lost…period. There was no noticeable speed difference, no super humans on the Arky side. Seven points were obtained on a punt return with a no call block in the back. Both teams played hard but KSU shot itself in the foot repeatedly. Probably the last I will say anything about the game but I am tired of the SEC falsehoods. It is high time we expand back to 12 and get on with the Big XII conference (looking at you UT).
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Arkie barely beat aTm.
Only way to settle this is conference champs to playoff.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I had the same thoughts when I read that article this morning. It might just be my degree talking, but when somebody says “x proves y” I automatically start looking for the supporting data. A sample size of one game “proves” nothing, and if this was written about anything other than sports he would have been laughed off the face of the Earth. Then again, he is an Aggie grad…
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by Lynx rufus on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think talent wise
Arkie had us slightly out gunned. The SEC is the best conference. B/12 is a close second. Arkie would have won the b/12 this year. That was a darn good team that beat us last night, and they were 3rd in their division. JMO.
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Was very impressed by Arkansas.
Have a lot of guys who will be playing on Sundays.
I just wish we’d given them our best shot.
Talent was not the difference...we were able to move the ball with our base offense.
The defense played lights out even with Cosh calling several bad sets. Our mistakes were the difference.
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We had 86 yards rushing. Their down defensive linemen were lights out
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Yes, you are correct here Furnace
Their D-line versus our O-line was a mismatch. And Wilson is a very good QB and Arkie has some seriously nice receivers. But their D-line versus our O-line aside, Catbacker is right the rest of the way. I wasn’t convinced that Arkie was otherwise much better than us. We did a hell of a lot to beat ourselves last night. Can’t do that against any credible opponent, particularly one ranked #6 who came ready to play.
I was simply talking about the tone in which the article was written. Like I said, I have a strong scientific background so to me “proof” and “sample size of one” shouldn’t be in the same article. Arkansas was the better team last night and they won, but this can’t be used as the end all evidence that the SEC is better than the Big XII.
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by Lynx rufus on Jan 7, 2012 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What's the delay with the game? 20 minutes of dicking around before tipoff? Really?
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Really?
Did I hear the studio analyst compare Gipson to Luis C.
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Yes.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Nice drive Rodney
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Sprads should note he makes more set 3s
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Just take smart shots and we got this.
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sounds like a solid start. listening to WHB810 on my phone in Dallas.
Sounds LOUD. Any idea how full?
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 12:59 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Looks pretty good
Well over 80% I think
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A thick player
could describe about any of our players
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Except for JO
Unless you’re talking about his head most of the time.
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Almost excluded him
but then I remembered him as a freshman.
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Nice stutter step, Shane
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
stupid app #commentfail
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
We had better not let the Tiggers back into this game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:01 PM CST reply actions
Missouri is going to make a run at some point.
They’re too good shooters not to.
Love the defense we’re playing so far though.
Tigers in trouble early.
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Angel showing how to beat the zone.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:02 PM CST reply actions
Shane should be gettin 10 pts a game from that spon on the court
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He has nice form. It's hard to explain why more don't go in.
More baffling is why he is so ready to defer on offense.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I think he has a pass first mentality.
As far as his jumper, I agree he has a nice looking stroke. But the ball doesn’t have a ton of arc. It seems like his makes are always swishes.
Get Denmon in foul trouble...he is scary good.
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The team has become a bit take-a-charge happy in my opinion.
Just play good strong defense. If you get bowled over then it’ll be called a charge.
Get them in foul trouble...foul trouble...they only have 7.
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Moving screen by MU not called results in JO block.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:11 PM CST reply actions
Sprads slid ...
Armstrong is correct, still prefer not to listen to him.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:11 PM CST reply actions
The hustle is definitely there today.
The inability to hold onto the loose balls also is there, however.
Smart shots Cats...smart shots.
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Yes...fouls...fouls...
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Horrible bail out call.
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Think the team is motivated.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:15 PM CST reply actions
He could say nothing and burn a hole in you with his gaze.
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offensive push off
but a weak call
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Night and Day from Wednesday's game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions
Octagon of Doom helps
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:18 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Defense and hustle have been outstanding.
Loving the game so far. Rod, Will, and Jamar all playing like leaders. And Angel has been superb.
If JO starts taking smarter shots...dagger.
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Man, Gymboree ran late today. Finally got the boy down, and I'm ready to watch some ball.
What’s going right so far? Score looks good.
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Missouri not shooting well. K-State running an offense. K-State playing defense.
About as different from Wed as you can get.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Kitchen was right. Frank doesn't know how to coach at AFH. It's in his head. It's not indicitive of the talent of this team.
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Maybe.
We will know after another road game or two.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not worried about road games. Maybe @Mizzou and @OSU. Other than that, no venue is that tough.
Not even Hilton. When ISU has a good team, Hilton can be tough, but it’s been a while since they’ve had a good team.
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Beating UT doesn't impress you?
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I always mark down Texas as a win. In all sports.
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Sorry, not what I meant. ISU beating UT doesn't impress you even a little?
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White can play
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It is because they don't dance or drink, right?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
or murder their own players
too far?
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yes, too far buddy
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ya, basically for the same reasons byu doesn't belong in our conference
If they ever go to lawrence they’ll probably have a panic attack and never want to leave utah ever again
Our D has been incredible
Offense is clicking
That was ugly, but that was NY playground basketball by Shane there.
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by tjr9898 on Jan 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Right there with you AMS.
The kid is going to be special.
Oh, Shane. Oh, oh, oh Shane.
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He's such a tease!
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We're going to be a beast in a couple of years when he and Sprads are seniors.
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Bury them...pedal down...bury them.
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^^This^^
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree
I want to smash them
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PLAYIN BALL.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Points in the paint: KSU 22, MU 0
Didn’t everyone say that MU was going to have trouble in conference because they have no inside play?
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But they've shot so well! That had to continue!
Well, as long as they continue to play awful teams.
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We're up by 20, and Frank animatedly yanks someone on the bench to replace the guy who screwed up on that backdoor.
Love Frank.
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He's probably still ticked about Wed.
But yes, K-State has good coaches in Snyder and Martin.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Outside of their white whales, I think the Cats have the best pair of coaches in the league
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Brad Hill, Fritz, Rolovelto (sp?), etc. We've got a great stable of coaches.
Deb…eh. She’s so weird.
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Very true, and I think we're solid on everyone being here a long time too
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Look at the Coaches.
Rolovelto: Been at K-State a long time.
Fritz: Been at K-State a long time.
Hill: KS native
Martin: FL native that is loved by K-State
Snyder: A legend
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Suppose Currie will be the first guy to move on/up?
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Yes.
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The support the coaches get from K-State right now, possibly.
I think Currie knows that he has a sweet job right though. Admin supports him and the fans like the current state of the athletics knowing that everything is going well, and improving.
The only issue is that we can only sell about 50,000 seats at the Bill. The additional premium seats will help, but otherwise all they can do to increase income is to add seats to Bramlage.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I just hope against hope that Frank stays a long time. If he does, we'll name the arena after him.
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Yes.
And have a statue at the entry.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I want a bust of this somewhere.
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Yes, it is.
K-State had a beard give-away, and Frank put one on (I think in the postgame interview on TV). Does anyone remember what game it was?
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it was the KU win
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It was two seasons ago.
Jake’s junior year when Fear the Beard first launched.
Pretty sure it was after Big Monday win over UT.
That sounds right.
I didn’t think it was last year.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
I have a friend that could probably do this.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
The Frank of Doom
another Miracle in Manhattan, one small stroke at a time
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But somehow she coached the girls to wins over A&M.
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Yeah, but all of the roster stuff, the Kendra Wecker stuff, etc. She's just weird.
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I agree
She’s the only coach at KSU with two conference titles, and yet she has personnel issues, and can’t do a thing in the NCAA tourney.
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Dixon kind of sucks. Way overrated coming out of Lee's Summit West.
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He is a good kid, I'm sure. Just not impressed with him as a player.
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Way too many fouls for the Cats
Cat fouls are the only thing keeping the traitors in the game.
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Some ticky tack fouls called so far.
But you’re right. It’s what is keeping this even a game so far.
We've expanded the lead with Rod on the bench.
Big time bench support in this game.
Will be big in second half to have Rod out there again. He was playing superbly.
Gip playing well.
Hopefully getting out of his slump.
17 points at half is okay, 20+ is better.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions
Alright Sprads.
Let’s hit these. He struggles at one on ones for some reason.
We're entering an era where we're looking at one, maybe two losses in Bramlage, at most, every year.
We’re turning that corner as a program. Frank is building something really, really special here, guys.
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I think I said that last year ... but there were doubters.
Next step start winning in AFH.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
The Cats conquer that step they will be one of the top two teams in the league every year
That’s a big mountain to climb but I agree, that’s the next step.
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We still drop games to rummies on the road. Like Colorado, OSU, etc. If we want to start winning the Big 12...
We can’t drop those games.
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Oh, yeah. Continuing to win road games against lesser competition is next. Consistently winning on the road at elite venues is the final step.
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Haha that was amazing.
TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME!
Tay!!!
Love this kid. Such an important piece of the team this year.
He's the toughest player on the team, like a bulldog.
He doesn’t have Jake’s offensive skill, but he’s the closest thing we have to him for toughness and defense.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
100% agree.
He’s not the best player on the team by any stretch, but he’s the one guy who going into any game of any magnitude you know isn’t going to shy away from the moment.
And his on-ball defense is among the best in the league.
I was just thinking how much the Cats struggle with their time wasting offense, and then we see that
Gorgeous.
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Who the heck fouled? Darn it.
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4 3pt attempts in the first half, making 3.
If I could have written a script for this game, that would have been part of it. Wonderful.
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Bonus coverage on EPSN3...OU leading KU.
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I'd like to watch except for that darned OU song.
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10 assists on 17 FGs, beautiful
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4, Angel has 3
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Wait a minute, where's Anon the Intern? He's supposed to be doing this.
Oh yeah, and the Cats are shooting 59% overall.
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Union rules, I can only cover 2 games in 4 days.
It sucks, but I can’t tick off the intern union.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Ha ha ha
Darned Unions always making lazy people out of formerly hard working people.
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I'm just enjoying the game today.
Not all that interested in the stats today. Maybe after the game.
Possibly I’m thinking about writing something…
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN's box score has him with 5 assists, to go with 4 points and 4 rebounds.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
I piss on ESPN, I'm using Yahoo sports
But thanks for the info. That’s interesting they have different amounts. What a game for him just in the first half.
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Yahoo doesn't always have all the stats during the game, so I use ESPN's.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
I totally understand
I wish kstatesports had a live play by play update. I’d use that!
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Try CBS, when they have stats they are as good as ESPN ... Yahoo just needs more stats.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Gametracker through CBS on the official website.
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Thanks guys
Noted. Also don’t have to look at trolls when I scroll too far down. Perfect.
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This is the ultimate good Southwell Paradox game so far.
Filling up the stat sheet, playing great defense, and really changing the game hugely for the positive.
When he can spell Rod with these kinds of minutes the team really has high quality depth.
Awesome.
A lot of assists for Angel in not a ton of minutes.
A huge plus in that half was Gip's defense.
Obviously Mizzou has probably a bottom three front court in the Big 12, but he’s playing really well on both ends of the court today after some early game struggles.
I'm not a fan of two fouls on Rod, Will, and Angel already though. Blech
But Irving and Southwell, the two best defenders, are doing fine.
What happened to Jones? Any sighting so far?
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I was really excited about him for 4 or 5 games.
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If he gets his head on straight, he could be a huge addition for us.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I like Jones, and I'm rooting for him to be the first JUCO that uses his eligibility here.
I also hope he’s the last one we bring in. Ever.
JUCO basketball players don’t do it for me. I mean, yeah, Mitch, but that was 20 years ago.
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I agree ... JUCO transfers in basketball are for fringe programs ...
There are so few scholarships to spend.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly. We've moved past that.
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Yeah.
He seemed to turn a corner in Hawaii. Was the type of offensive threat that could really help this team when it’s being offensively challenged.
But we know the drill by now. Play good defense and practice well or don’t get minutes. His defense seemed to be improving so I can only assume he’s had some bad practices since that tournament.
Jones will be there.
This isn’t a team where it is easy to get minutes.
Jones is having to adjust from JUCO and he should be there pretty soon.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
This is conference basketball ...
Nobody is immune to anyone on the road in the conference this year.
Today is exactly how MU/KSU should play out in MHK. As long as we don’t turn it over and don’t lose our minds on defense, we dominate this team at home. Terrible matchup for MU.
When we go to Columbia, the refs are going to kill us with calls and no-calls, but we’ll have a decent chance if we play hard for 40.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions
Big win for WVU today as they beat #9 Georgetown.
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OU beating the Hawks in Norman at half, 34-33
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Watching a bit of KU-OU during half.
Two observations:
1) Thomas Robinson is a beast. A truly great player.
2) Pleadger (spelling?) is a pretty impressive looking athlete. That’s a hell of a recruit Kruger brought in. He’s going to give the Big 12 fits.
Hell yes
I was trying to go run errands because I was expecting another turd from the Cats. I’m loving this.
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Have to bring the same hustle and intensity in the second half.
Continue to help well on defense, make hard cuts.
You can add moving on defense, also.
Moving anywhere.
If one of our guys had to take a crap in Lawrence, he wouldn’t have made it to the toilet … for lack of effort.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
Start of second half is going to be huge. Mizzou has the talent and shooting to get back in this game. We can’t rest on our laurels here.
Oh my God. Ratliffe is such an idiot.
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I mean, I look at him, and all I hear is, "Der der der"
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Cats starting stupid
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JO if you can't get the ball above the rim,
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Stop fouling.
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Bad Jamsam arrives out of the tunnel.
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McGruder is all up in English's grill
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Pat, I'd like to buy a bucket.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
BS that was a charge.
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What a miserable start to the half.
Even Spradling can’t hit his favorite shot. Twice! Blech.
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This is our swoon. Just need to fight though it, since there is no go-to guy.
Sprads misses are painful there, though. Those are lay-ups.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
We're missing layups, wide open threes.
It’s not bad basketball, it’s just there’s a lid on the hoop right now.
Frank needs to call a TO.
We’re throwing this away right now.
Bench might be what wins this game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:03 PM CST reply actions
Not intelligent basketball going on here right now.
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Playing like the first half against KU.
Not playing like first half of this game.
Standing around on offense, a step late on defense.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions
JO!!
ol fashion 3
another Miracle in Manhattan, one small stroke at a time
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Sometimes, when I watch Rod, I think of some old ABA player in the 70's. He's just so old school.
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Haha yes.
He definitely has an old school element to his game.
Made something out of nothing there. Everyone else was just standing around.
When he has the right mentality, his game is smooth, maybe even smoove.
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Rec'd for the proper use of the word "smoove"
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Missouri shooting 24% FG, 23% 3's, 78% FT.
K-State 48%, 42%, 69%.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions
just curious how MU was shooting.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I love ESPN3 for allowing me to watch every game.
I hate ESPN3 for being so choppy sometimes.
Need Jones to do some good while he's in.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:10 PM CST reply actions
Not really.
He went for the ball and hit the body. You have to go straight up, if you lean then you will foul.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
1 sec on the shot clock foul...geez.
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I took a break
is Frank ranting again?
oh hail the Purple and White
Nope.
Most of the starters are out of the game. Might be all the starters are out.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Another horseshit call. Basketball refs are so comically predictable.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions
That was not a tie up...there was a clear reach.
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Big Gip with a great play there.
Good d and board.
Still leading by 17 and playing like crud.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:13 PM CST reply actions
Thinking the same thing
another Miracle in Manhattan, one small stroke at a time
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Dear god Frank.
We’re playing the undefeated #6 team in the country.
Why they say Nino is from St. Louis?
He played at Leavenworth.
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He transferred to Leavenworth at some point in high school.
He went to some bogus prep school/basketball factory or something like that. He went to Leavenworth to get his grades right.
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Missouri doesn't know how to handle physicality
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Or tall opponents.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
ODU made that obvious.
We’re ODU on horse steroids.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Run decent offense, get a couple of good looks, finish ... game over.
otherwise …
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions
Obviously, we chose "otherwise" ...
MU has real life now.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Angel WTF was that?
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Our offense the last 3 possesions ... shoot from outside and everyone stand around.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
3 of 12 for MU, 3 of 12 for K-State
Offensive juggernauts.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:18 PM CST reply actions
Nope.
It is on the players with not much experience not doing what they should do on the court.
These guys know how to run the offense. They know how to defend. But once they are on the court, they don’t do what they are supposed to.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
fouls.
Will, Martavious, Jamar and Rodney all with three.
Trying to buy some time with the reserves. Our reserves should not have a problem against MU.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
right
too many ticky tack calls
another Miracle in Manhattan, one small stroke at a time
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It is why we are playing zone right now.
Trying to avoid fouls.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry, but what are we doing here? I'm confused with this lineup and shot selection.
I mean…huh?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Put the fucking real lineup back in, Frank.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:19 PM CST reply actions
Here they are
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Horrible series out of the timeout.
Bad enough that had to call another timeout.
Pan you feeling a mini 7-0 run here now by the Cats?
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Eh, no.
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Damn...
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I should have said, yes. But as InS was saying, we weren't hitting anything.
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I had a feeling...
:)
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I didn't feel it either ... which is why I was so relieved about the bonus ...
But we woke up and took the game back.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Being in the bonus could actually save our asses.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:23 PM CST reply actions
Jamsam come on man.
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I think it's fair to remind everyone that Frank Haith is not, nor has he ever been, a very good basketball coach.
This team has shot very well against a weak non-con. Mizzou will not win this conference.
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Not bad players but not impressed with MU play today.
K-State reserves just need to figure out how to play when needed.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
lulz pass.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:25 PM CST reply actions
Oh yeah. Sandstorm may as well be us playing "Taps"
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Hey Pan...I felt it though.
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Yeah, you were right.
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Playing back-to-back #6 ranked teams for football and basketball?
I’m liking this result a little bit better…
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MU might be just a tad over-ranked.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Be that as it may
It still looks good on the ticker at the bottom of the screen
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I guess the zone is to control the foul situation with the bench players struggling?
But it seems to play exactly into Mizzou’s strength.
Yea and Nay.
A zone is good for guarding the perimeter if players move and rotate.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Just seems this year we haven't been able to get out to the shooter in time consistently in zone.
I’m sure it’s something Frank wants to improve.
2 points.
We don’t play enough zone to do it lights out.
If you can pass, or drive and pass then you can beat a zone.
If you are playing a zone you have to move much more while not collapsing like you would playing man.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Rodney has 20 points without a 3-point attempt.
I don’t know that I would have ever expected that.
You jinxing bastard...
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Can anyone think of a player that's gotten better in three years than Irving? Like all round.
I mean, Kent transformed in year four, but Irving is right up there in terms of, “How will this guy ever be a BCS-conference player?” And he ultimately becomes a pretty good one.
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Good at D, which I definitely like.
And you never hear any drama from him. I mucho respect the kid.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
He has improved his vision and basketball IQ
But he’s still essentially the same player he was as a freshman, just more experienced and polished, in my opinion.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
His offensive strides have been very surprising.
I always thought he’d be a bulldog defender, but he has a nice ability to get to the rim, a decent jumper, and his vision has improved tenfold.
JO's shot ... no arc hits rim.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:30 PM CST reply actions
If you're a Missouri fan, you had to know this was going to happen.
You come into Manhattan undefeated, you come out with a loss. Just ask KU and Texas.
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But they aren't that good. I mean look at the non-con. You can't get anything out of that.
You can’t shoot at that level for an entire season, especially once conference play comes around. They have no inside game.
I don’t get where the confidence came from.
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It's fed by the sports media ...
Who really is too stupid to get it or just feeds the avg fan shit for “analysis”.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't watch MU before this game.
playing 4 guards, they need to run more. They’ve played too slow against a taller team, not a way to win.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
If their opponent ...
1) doesn’t turn it over
and
2) gets physical with the on the boards
then Mizzou has to have miraculous shooting to win.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Missouri's beat writers are awful. Everywhere. Even their Rivals guys.
I only trust RMN for objective MU analysis, and it’s a fan blog for Christ’s sakes.
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After Mizzou's beatdown of OU ...
Everyone was touting the rebounding totals (favoring Mizzou) … as if it meant anything at all going forward. Like they could actually rebound consistently.
wow.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
That's what they get for rooting for Arkansas last night..
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Were they really? That's sad.
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In all fairness, I did root for Carolina in the Independence Bowl, so, okay.
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A few of them, not sure how many though
I stopped by RMN yesterday morning and that was the opinion of a few.
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It was a messy divorce. They've drank the SEC Kool-aid. I'll allow it.
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Honestley the only team that left the Big 12 on good terms was Colorado
I would be open to playing them in the non con in a few years
Not in bball
Frank has no idea what to do against Boyle
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we gave the respect and props to you all before and during the game
and now after too. You all played well tonight
by McZou on Jan 7, 2012 9:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
JO leads rebounds with 5, Shane leads assists with 5.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:32 PM CST reply actions
Pull up jumper by Martavious.
Want to see more of that, from more players.
That 12’ jumper is open a bunch.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:36 PM CST reply actions
that's his shot.
Best and most consistent weapon in his arsenal.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 5:30 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wait, wait, wait...
I thought SEC>Big12, and all others are to bow down in reverence?
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 5:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
knee to the chest is usually against the offense.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Ref's are calling too many continuation fouls.
Becoming like the NBA.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:38 PM CST reply actions
We're going to have to learn...
…to “foul on the continuation” like they do in the NBA if this keeps up.
We'll carry the banner high!
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by TB on Jan 8, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
That's just big-time muscle right there.
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DANGER: GIPSON MAKES WIDE RIGHT LEFT TURNS
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by Panjandrum on Jan 7, 2012 2:40 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY WIDE
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by Panjandrum on Jan 7, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If he gets that drop step shot down like JO, it will be sweet.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
By the way, anyone notice how much Lamont Evans coaches in game?
He’s often standing and helping point things out during play.
I have no idea whether he’ll be as valuable as a recruiter, but he sure seems like more of a coach than Dalonte Hill was.
Coaches that coach are usually good at recruiting.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
I believe he was the point man on Upshaw.
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Had the same reaction against Howard.
The guy looks like he is really working with the players and teaching. Love it.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 5:28 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Fantastic
I know Greenawalt may as well be glued to the chair, but I always see Underwood up. I like having Evans up too. What’s his specialty?
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Evans I think is guards and small forwards.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Gibson is going to be a great player
you can just tell. The guy always plays hard and is strong as hell.
GIPson. With a P.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 5:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That dry spell with the reserves did what was needed.
Still have have 3 fouls on 4 players.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:42 PM CST reply actions
Alright, bring the scrubs in. Let's not rub it in too much.
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It might. Mizzou wasn't that high, though.
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I stand corrected. Mizzou was #23
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That was a fould on the MU player, arm across the neck.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions
Darned right
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I read he was back at the team hotel last night
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
Correct.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Again ... just like ku did to us in lawrence ...
This is just holding serve.
Nice game. Time to do it to Baylor.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 7, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions
Need Jamar healthy against Baylor, otherwise I have no concerns about the ability of the team can play.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, Jamar will definitely be important against Baylor.
He’s the best choice to match up against Quincy Acy.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Southwell?
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Southwell has the length, but I don't know about the strength.
And Acy is too fast for Gipson, I expect.
by AMS on Jan 7, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
could have won by 20+
but Tigers got some garbage points
I'm going to do a post-game,
But need to watch the game, first. Listened to the first half up to about 5:00 left, so will find a replay and post afterward. I’m actually excited to watch.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 7, 2012 4:18 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Good game overall.
JO needs a shooting coach, if he had someone to teach him to shoot from 10’ he’d have a double double every game. Otherwise not much to say other than our 6-10 players need to work on maintaining the game when they are all in at the same time.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Lady Jayhawks still owned ib Lawrence....
…barely.
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Great win for the ladies! So much for that hot-shooting KU team.
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Just so you guys know,
I put up an FanPost about something my dad got from a Longhorn fan about the difference between Arkansas and Kansas State players when it came to the Beef Bowl… If someone could bump that to the front page that’d be great. We need to share this with as many people as possible.
Saw it and tweeted it.
Can’t say that, after reading it, I’m really that surprised.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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