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we still won’t have an area for sail-gating like Baylor. :(

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So does phase 3 include a moat then?

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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by MeatGeek on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't see it

anywhere in the masterplan. smh

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Noob level fail...

Seriously you build the castle and forget to include a moat in the plans. Terrible architects designed this thing.

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by MeatGeek on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow -

now I understand the pricetag. I can’t even find the right adjectives to describe this. What a great thing if we can pull this off. It is just the right look for KSU and who we are. This would improve recruiting several notches.

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by Furnace76 on Jan 5, 2012 5:39 PM CST reply actions  

right

but I dont think Phase 2 is going to cost 75 million

by jtarkman on Jan 6, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

75 mil for phase 2

project summary on the right side: http://www.kstatesports.com/weststadiumcenter/projectdetails.html

They need to pick up support from the community to launch this phase. Grab 25 million, then bond the rest to speed up the development.

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by @xmcgraw on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

The arches remind me of the coliseum

and the castle- like towers remind me of Nichols on campus. Great look.

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by Furnace76 on Jan 5, 2012 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

This is.....FREAKING AWESOME

Looking at the drawings I see one possible design flaw: the lights they show them only on North and South portions at the top and I’m just not sure that’s gonna be enough. And another thing I wish they would close off the North West corner with seating they could probably up the capacity by around 500, but I would guess the final capacity would be around 52,000. They could and should extend the North windows out to connect with the Vanier Complex and make standing room areas within.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

I'm guessing this still isn't the final, final engineering documents. I'm sure the lights thing will be evaluated.

Also, if that’s the worst thing we can say about it, then they knocked this furking thing out of the park.

by BracketCat on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

This is not the final final construction documents.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 6, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty happy with the results.

This helps solidify KSU as a big time CFB program for reals. Kicks the crap out of the gridiron club down the river. Sort of looks like what TCU’s new renovations will look like from the exterior. That thing is AWESOME. Ought to be able to bounce some sound off of that real well.

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by GTcat on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM CST reply actions  

Ehh.

It looks nice and all but it is only really increasing the premium seating, i.e. more money for the athletic department, and providing a few more amenities for the commoners. I’d like to see the numbers for restroom and concession expansion, how many are on the main level versus the number for each of the premium levels.

Considering the upper deck on the east site is not sold out often enough, I can understand the desire to increase seats that people will pay extra for since the cheap seats are already overpriced (if they weren’t overpriced they would sell out for all games).

Also I highly doubt the meeting rooms are going to be available to the university, like those in the Student Union and that it would take a dean or the president to actually be able to use one of the meeting rooms.

As for the dining hall in the building. I am very much NOT in favor of this. At Notre Dame, the student athletes live and dine with the rest of the students. Most of the students athletes when I was in school ate at Derby in the training line but they could (and quite a few did) eat with the non-student athletes. The student athlete experience is far from the normal student experience enough as it is.

Overall it looks good but I’m indifferent about it.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

I am really impressed with the looks but...

But I kinda feel the same way this isn’t going to really increase the experience of “average” fan. And I also think that the athlete only dining hall is a terrible idea, it starts with this and eventually we’ll have a totally separate school just for athletes.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we'll progress to an athlete only dorm first...

oh wait, we already did that. Edwards Hall.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a cousin that ran cross country and track

And he said that probably 75-80% of the athletes live off campus

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, this is probably very accurate.

Most of the athletes staying on campus are the young’uns.

I mean, I only lived on campus for 2 years, and I was not an athlete.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

With 20,000+ students on the MHK campus

Very few live on campus.
Marlatt ~600
Goodnow ~600
Haymaker ~600
Ford ~600
West ~300
Moore ~600
Jardine Aps ~600
Strong Complex ~400

That’s only about 4,000 students on campus. There might be a few that still sleep in cars on campus, don’t know.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot a couple

Putnam and VanZile (but I think they are the smallest of all of them)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

or are they the "Strong Complex"?

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Putnam, Van Zoo and Boyd are the Strong Complex.

Originally they were separate but when it was decided to renovate Van Zile, they were entitled ‘Strong Complex’.

The bakery in Derby is worth visiting.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

lol, yep, I actually forgot about Boyd.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

HA! I never realized that is where our "beach" is.

I’ve done a good amount of work at UNC-Chapel Hill, and I know right where their “beach” is.

Guess this spring I’ll be making a slight adjustment to the route I take back to Dykstra from the Union after lunch.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 6, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I was a paperboy delivering the Manhattan Mercury to the "Athletic Dorm"

(Edwards Hall) the first two years it was open. Lynn Dickey was one of my subscribers. We defineitly don’t want to go back to that, and I doubt the new dining hall would result in “all meals” being taken there. But it would save a lot of times for the kids, and probably result in more money in their pocket if they had a good place to pick up some meals.

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by Furnace76 on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

If it gives them the opportunity for meals

even if they live off campus, then I don’t see a problem with it.

Do the athletes currently have access to the training table in Derby if they live off-campus?

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes but parking.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the "saved time" aspect of meals at the Bill is worth it.

I can’t imagine hunting for parking spots around Derby, hence, the kids pick up a burger at where?

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by Furnace76 on Jan 5, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Same place as everyone else.

I know there are time demands for athletes but it is starting to approach the students-athletes have a completely different experience than ‘normal’ students.

Which is why I mentioned ND, their student-athletes are basically just another student.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it is purely coincidence

That the schools that get slapped with NCAA sanctions are also the same schools were athletes are treated like gods, it starts in the athletic departments and eventually spreads everywhere and the kids start thinking they deserve the best always, and that is not the K-State and Bill Snyder way of doing things.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Reggie Bush?

OJ Mayo?

Surely you aren’t referring to guys like that?

:)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Those points are true

But I really don’t think having a dining area at the Bill for athletes means that their student experience will be that much different.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Jan 5, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW 20,000 reported at the pep rally this evening.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

that's nearly half of the Splenda Bowl's actual game attendance! :)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I would have guestemated closer to 25k

60% of the lower part was full, plus 20%-30% of the upper decks
It was sweet

by jtarkman on Jan 5, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

And has anyone found out the donation levels for club, loge and premium seating?

Just curious.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

I think that is in Phase 3.

looks like new video board on the north end, and a new sound system (among other things)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

On a good note

Last summer there was concern about IA-State having issued bonds for facility improvements and possibly being left out in conference re-alignment.

I’m guessing that our leadership is not seeing a possibility of our being left out in the future.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

This is everything I dreamed it could be and more.

Don’t forget, there are additional phases to this. 6 total. Just no renderings for those yet.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

This

VIDEO is pretty cool.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

oops

I think THIS is what I meant

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

you got'em too???

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Man, that is one swanky party room.

Gonna have to hire the Cotton Bowl folks to throw my bachelor party, huh?

by BracketCat on Jan 6, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Now that those people are pointed out to me

That is a bit ridiculus.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Jan 5, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

As I told TB separately...

Never in the course of human history has there been a rendering in which A) the building in question didn’t look awesome and B) the stock photos of people in the renderings didn’t look ridiculous.

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by RPT on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well played, you rogue.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That's just bad ass

Talk about changing the looks of a stadium without building a whole new one….wow

by IndianaCatFan on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

They may eventually. This is phase 2 of 6 in the master plan.

I think, eventually, they’ll get to at least 3.

Strength and Conditioning Center Varsity Club and Seating Area Recruiting Lounge Video and Ribbon Board Additions Distributed Sound System South Stadium Fan Amenities Limestone Field Wall Field Perimeter Surface Upgrades

Phase 4 starts to get a little high class in terms of upgrades.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he meant the east side.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I know. That would most likely come as a part of Phase 5, if we ever get that far.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Imagine how different the stadium would look if all 6 phases were complete. My goodness.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

To become a bit of a pessimist, I've been hearing about the 'cohesive' complex...

Connecting Bramlage to BSFS for years. A lot of things need to happen to get us this far.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

And the first of those has already happened.

We finally hired a BAMF visionary AD.

Look how far we’ve come in just a few years. Total financial stability and independence, Phase 1, the BTF, etc.

ADJC is the man to get this done.

by BracketCat on Jan 6, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

This is probably my favorite phase

especially the linking of the north endzone

by jtarkman on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine too.

Phase 2 leaves one side of the stadium looking completely different than the other. Cosmetics, I know, but nonetheless…

by CT-K-Stater on Jan 6, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe a "Picking the Cotton" edition?

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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 5, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Insert well known gif here

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by BlackCats on Jan 5, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes...probably

Swamped tonight, but trying to get to it.

We'll carry the banner high!
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by TB on Jan 5, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm think lodge suite is the way to go

Four seats is perfect for the fam.

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by BlackCats on Jan 5, 2012 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

Yes I'm aware.

I’ll gladly hit the pb&j/mac&cheese diet if needed.

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by BlackCats on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm putting in a request for a BOTC presence in the loge seating area.

Really, I just want access to that open lounge and the booze that comes with it.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be freaking awesome

I saw the second half of the Iowa State game at arrowhead from a suit and it was pretty freaking amazing there was nachos, we had our own personal server and the outdoor seating was right next to the field. That has pretty much inspired me to get back to a suit by what ever means necessary.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

It isn't an open bar.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Screw it. I'm watching all games from Buffalo Wild Wings, then.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

And they would probably frown upon bringing your own.

The wording Is “Access to bar (Alcoholic beverages available for additional purchase).”

If the prices are as marked up as for the soft drinks, it would be expensive drinking.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

But can I get 6 boneless Hot BBQ and 6 boneless Wild wings? If no, I'll be at BWW.

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by Panjandrum on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

At least we will know who causes overtime.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Has anyone heard the new estimated seating capacity when this is all said and done

I couldn’t find anything about it, and to be honest that worries me a little, like this may reduce seating/increase it none or very little.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 PM CST reply actions  

There is no way I see that it could

do anything but increase seating. even f you take out those metal “temp” bleachers, you’re still adding in space for hundreds more vertically

by jtarkman on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Still 50k-ish

there is something in the web stuff about it.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't amagine it could expand much.

Not sure there is the population to support much over 50,000 consistently.

by rich04 on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Not yet, but wait'll NBAF gets up and rolling.

I bet we might eventually get to 60K with the north side enclosure plan.

by BracketCat on Jan 6, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

not significant

Will the West Stadium Center increase the overall capacity of Bill Snyder Family Stadium?

We do not project a significant impact to the overall capacity of the stadium by the construction of the West Stadium Center. While a good number of premium seats will be added, the removal of the unsightly metal bleachers currently located at the top of sections 2 and 9 will minimize the overall capacity impact. Season-ticket holders in those sections will have the opportunity to relocate to comparable seating locations.

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by @xmcgraw on Jan 6, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe between the club level and the suits

It’s anticipated to add about 2,400 seats but I don’t know how much they take away from those aluminum bleachers. I would guess it’s still a net gain.

I’d bet 52,000 permanent seats is about right.

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by GTcat on Jan 6, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Good luck against the hogs!!!

I will definitely be pulling for you to win.

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by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

like the signature.

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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Impressive.

Be nice once it is built.

by rjd27 on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 AM CST reply actions  

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