K-State Slate: 1.4.12
by TB on Jan 4, 2012 7:10 AM CST
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More than 450 comments on yesterday's Slate? Man, did you guys miss each other, or what?
K-State Basketball
Conference play tips off for K-State tonight when the Wildcats travel down the river to face KU.
The matchup breakdown gives KU a slight edge in this one, but it's as even as it's been in a long time at the old barn down the river.
K-State better not be too wary of the atmosphere at the game tonight, or they'll be down 15-2 after five minutes like we usually are in Lawrence.
Rebounding and hustle plays will go a long way toward deciding the winner tonight.
K-State Football
The TCJ is killing it with the Cotton Bowl coverage this week.
Remember the first game of the season, when we were convinced this was the worst offensive line we'd ever had at K-State? Those misfits turned out alright.
Hogs hope Cats come up throwing? Good luck with that.
John Hubert broke LaDainian Tomlinson's rushing record in Waco and all that, but did we really miss out on Tomlinson because he fell asleep at a meeting? Excuse me while I go barf.
Chris Harper wants to be remembered long after he leaves K-State. Here's a tip, Chris. Salute the crowd after scoring a touchdown right in front of a Big 10 referee. Works every time.
K-State participated in Lawry's Prime Rib Beef Bowl last night.
Big 12 Basketball
Missouri routed Oklahoma last night in its Big 12 opener, winning 87-49 by doing what it usually does: creating turnovers and shooting the cover off the ball. So much for OU's status as a significantly improved team, but more importantly Missouri looks like it will be a force to be reckoned with all conference season. But the Tigers can't keep shooting at this clip, right? I mean...right?
College Football
This article from last week explains how the SEC became the ruling power in college football. (h/t, Anon)
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I can't go there ... Q was a dominator his last year.
Q could take a short pass for long TDs (and regularly did) and could go over the top (and regularly did).
Tough to compare because of differences in QBs, of course. This WR corps’ numbers are hurting like no others in KSU history because of the team’s offensive identity.
I’d still put Harper well behind Morgan and Darnell McDonald. imo, he’s clearly ahead of A. Lockett.
But Harper’s got a whole year to get better, too.
If Brod can keep his head on straight, the offense next year could be just awesome, in its own unique way.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 4, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Okay, I see your point
I guess we will just have to wait another year and see. It would be nice to see Chris have a huge year and go high in next year’s draft
Agree with your take, Itchy
My pick for best all-time KSU receiver is Kevin Lockett, hands down. After that I see Darnell McDonald, Jordy, Quincy and Michael Smith amongst the top-level guys.
I also thing Figurs is a bit underrated amongst those names
I wouldn’t put him above any of those names, but I think he deserves to be mentioned on the tail end with them.
Perhaps a little Antoine Polite as well, but less than Figurs.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Yes, Figurs and Terry were definitely good players
but I’m not quite ready to include them among the “elites” mentioned above (although Sean is right – Terry did have a monster year in 2003). Some other good names are Mitch Running and Frank Hernandez. One major caveat here: I have no one pre-1989 on the list since I was not following the ’Cats prior to then.
What about Terry? He had an amazing season in 2003.
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Missouri really didn't create that many turnovers last night.
In fact, the Tigers had more turnovers than the Sooners, 9 to 8. They did, however, shoot the cover off the ball. And somehow they outrebounded a Big 12 team, 38-20, with only two players taller than 6-6 on scholarship. Wha?
Yeah, I think I am going to retract what I said yesterday
about being nervous for the OU game. Based on how they had played out of conference, I thought they might be for real, but Mizzou pretty much made them look downright pitiful last night. I didn’t even watch the second half of the game.
I really like our chances tonight. Like TB says above, if we can keep our emotions in check in the first 5 minutes, and not get down by 15 early, I am confident we can at least make a game out of it.
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Or as Martin might say, a grown man.
He’s certainly matured since he arrived.
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I successfully voted with my remote last night
and avoided all things Splenda Bowl. I didn’t even hear the score until this morning while I was getting ready for work.
Saw a comment in yesterday’s thread that the announcers made a comment that the dome was only about half full. Did anybody peek in on the game? Is that a fair assessment? If so, that’s awesome. Also, anyone know when tv ratings from the bowl games are released? I REALLY hope the Cotton Bowl beats the tar out of Splenda Bowl.
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If you thought it seemed full you must not have been looking very closely.
Bottom bowl was full.
Mid-tier was full on Michy side and about 1/2 to 3/4 full on VaTech.
Upper bowl was 1/2 full on both sides, probably less in the end zones.
I paused it a lot and saw some still pictures online to come to those conclusions.
I definitely was not watching very closely
Had a basketball game to keep my eye on. But it looked better than, say, the Independence Bowl. :)
Don’t get me wrong, I hope the BCS bowls DIAF. You guys should have a lot of fun at the Cotton Bowl.
Just reread my post and if I came off snarky there sorry about that.
Wondered about it when I was getting ready to hit send and just realized it reads kind of dick-ish.
The only reason I worry about our ratings it that the game is on a Friday night.
I always wonder about Friday night TV draws…
It is the only game that night
on Fox, which nearly everyone gets (cuz its a broadcast channel), and it features and SEC team…so yeah, people are gonna watch
I know but I worry about people having better things to do on Friday nights than stay at home watching football...
especially the casual fans. Obviously a lot of BigXII/SEC fans will watch (mainly KSU/Arky fans), but I wonder about the majority of the country that doesn’t having a rooting interest….
Sunday-Thursday games draw because people don’t go out on weeknights. Friday nights have a lot of pull that doesn’t include TV…
Just watched the highlights ...
That game was a bunch of monkeys f*ing a football.
What. A. Joke.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
Washington Post says
there were large pockets of empty seats at the Sucrose Bowl. I mean who would want to go and watch those two undeserving teams, anyway?
It was a post on a different board unrelated to SBnation that a commenter said it was 1/2 full.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
A little bit more.
Both teams did not sell about 2,500 seats, so that is about 5,000 seats that should be empty. But the Bowl will report these seats as sold since the schools have to pay for them. As well VT/ACC arranged for 4,000 seats to be given away from the VT allotment so that is another 4,000 seats that may or may not have been empty.
Attendance figures for all bowls.
The splenda bowl is reporting 64,512 attendance which is the tickets sold, this is 92.55% capacity of the 69,703 the stadium holds. Since we know that at about 5,000 tickets were not sold by the schools the attendance at the game is easily less than 60,000.
If 64,512 is the 3rd lowest attendance figure for the bowl, I would think the actual attendance is also quite low.
It would be interesting if there was a method to determine actual attendance from some source.
Remember both VT and Michigan are paying at least $200,000 to play in last night’s bowl.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
And the only picture I've seen of the stadium last night.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
If that was during the game (like midway through 1st qtr)
as opposed to during pregame festivities, that looks pathetic. I would say the half full comment was being generous.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Jon Solomon just ripped them on Twitter:
Sugar Bowl attendance of 64,512 is its 3rd lowest in past 72 years. Lower: Miami-Florida ’01 (64,407) & Tenn.-Tulsa ’43 (58,361).
Also, this fun gem:
RT @PeteThamelNYT The ACC is now 2-12 in BCS Bowl games. Frank Beamer is 1-5 in BCS games.
I guess this is why the ACC had never been given an at-large bid prior to this year.
smh
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
The majority of at large bids have gone to the B1G since the inception of the BCS.
and yet their winning percentage is no better than the Big XII. And don’t get me started on the ACC.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
me too, though I sorta wished I tuned in for the last 2 minutes of it.
But I’m not upset I didn’t.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
While I'd like a win Friday
As long as we don’t get blown out I really don’t care.
I’m SO excited for next year. Have been since before the beginning of the season. Even more so now.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
agree
a win would definitely be nice.
a good showing will make me plenty happy.
and I too, have been excited about next season (maybe not as early as you, Black) for quite some time.
Oh, and conference play begins for the Hoopy Cats tonight! Bring it biatches!!!!
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I only got on the "next year" band wagon
Because we were talking about the upcoming season in August and the incoming people and it hit me. There were big questions about Kline but we had Tuggle and Sams ready to go in 2012 and returned damn near everyone, that was really why I was geeked for 2012. At the time I said, “Anything less than 9 wins next season is a complete fail.” I think we might do a little better though now.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I completely agree
and while everything you said is true, the reason I did NOT get on as quickly as you was because I wanted to at least see what we were going to be like this year before getting all hyped up about next year.
With the starters who are returning, and the gray shirts who will be coming into the fold (Sam Harvin, Glenn Gronkowski, et al), I am uberexcited about next year.
You are right, though, the success we have had this year WOULD make 9-3 seem like a disappointment next year. Give this group another spring and summer together, and I think a repeat 10-2 is definitely within our grasp.
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I agree
I know we’ve talked about how great this year’s team has been, but next year’s team could make a run for the greatest Cat team ever.
Not only do we see the return of the top talent and captains on both offense and defense, but nearly every statical play-maker returns on both sides of the ball. The only significant losses are David Garrett, Manny Lamur, Raphael Guidry, and Tysyn Hartman…geez. The O-Line will be improved, and returns a TON of depth. The backfield will be bolstered by depth and added quality (if DRob is really back). The D-Line could be one of the best ever with Williams, Davis, Lutui, Seau, and whatever greyshirts (Harvill) come in.\
The only problem areas are replacing Manny and Tysyn. I am significantly less concerned about replacing Tysyn, but I hope one of the incoming kids (Morgan Burns?) steps up in a big way like Ty did.
Its a great time to be a Wildcat!
I don't mean to rain on the parade here
because I share the enthusiasm moving forward into next year that everyone is sharing. However, a few things do worry me.
First, we won an awfully lot of close games that could have gone either way this year. Closing those out again next year, or ensuring those same games aren’t as tight, will be tough. While we should be better, so might some of those opponents (thinking Texas Tech).
Second, we have to go to Oklahoma next season and so far I see no sign that Landry Jones is leaving early for the NFL.
Third, Manny Diaz will be back to direct the Texas defense next year barring some head coaching opportunity suddenly turning up that increasingly does not look likely. Texas just needs a little improvement on offense and they will be a VERY tough team to deal with (although we do get them at home in ‘12).
Fourth, I worry that losing some of the key players like David Garrett, Ray Kibble (never thought I’d be saying that heading into the 2011 season), Raphael Guidry (ditto), Manny Lamur (whose ability in pass coverage out of the linebacker slot will be missed), and yes, even Sleepy Tysyn Hartman, may affect our defensive chemistry. Also, Mathew Pearson was a heck of good backup at safety and that will be a position Snyder needs to restock from the JUCO levels this year.
Having said all that, I love what we bring back on offense (although I’d like a power-back for short-yardage and red zone situations who can spell Hubert) and if Foketi can get another year from medical hardship this unit should be terrific. Plus, the return of Arthur Brown, along with Nigel Malone, Latui, Tre Walker, Chapman, Meshak and Adam Davis should mean the defense holds firm.
Okay, I’m done here. Didn’t mean to piss on anyone’s fire. Go Cats!
It's okay
I’ll live. Sometimes when I get excited I get ahead of myself, thats usually when my comments don’t go as well…
Comments were fine
You’re right – it is a great time to be a Wildcat. We should cherish it.
I like Kibble and Guidry as much as the next guy
But their loss isn’t THAT great. We can bring in (or use what we have) to do what they did. Our four man rush sucked. I’m interested to see what the Redshirt Freshmen Gates and Clark can do, 6’3" 320lbs and 6’4" 310lbs respectively. Two guys that are bigger than any that played this year. And didn’t Allred get hurt and miss the season?
Tuggle I think replaces Lamur, yet to be seen but the raw talent is there.
Hartman should have sat this year like Hrebeck and let someone faster play, I’ve heard we have or are getting some speed demons back there to replace Rat and Tyson. I’ll have to find where I read that. Coleman and Evens stick out in my mind for some reason. And let’s not forget about Tate Snyder, if you’ve seen him hit you know what I mean. Sounds like a gun shot. He has some development ahead, but should be good.
Overall, not worried.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I think you and I are on the same page
less concerned about what we lost and most optimistic about what we are bringing in
Not that their loss is great
but in terms of unit chemistry (and in the case of Kibble, overall production not seen in terms of statistics) their loss might hurt. Then again, maybe not. That is the question. Are the guys we have waiting in the wings necessarily better? And do they need a full season under their belt before really coming into their own (Kibble in 2010 and Kibble in 2011 are two totally different players)?
I agree our four-man rush has not been up to the task for at least the past two seasons, if not since 2003. Having Davis and Meshak back next year should help and I definitely like Latui a lot.
Defense isn't offense
If you come to work everyday you can be an impact player right away. Unless you need to put on weight, etc.
I think I read an article that Kibble was going through the motions until he got benched. Didn’t have to work last year to stay on the field so he didn’t.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Which is what I mean
some players need a year out their for either a comeuppance or to garner the necessary in-game experience to settle down and feel comfortable.
Though our defense was definitely better this year, I think we all agree it has a ways to go. Hopefully the players Bill has been stockpiling with redshirts/greyshirts and JUCO transfers will be ready to step in and take the unit to the next level. Until we see it happen, though, this remains a concern.
I think Manese
can definitely come back. I mean, he is definitely eligible for a medical hardship, but I think maybe the season has to be completely over before they can submit the paperwork. Also, we assume that he wants to come back and play again. It is entirely possible that he doesn’t want to risk another injury next year (and heck, maybe he is ready to be done with college and move on).
But yeah, you do raise some valid points. The exact set of circumstances we faced this year will not be present next season, and we never really know what is going to happen. I guess that’s why they play the games, huh?
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree
I’m not nearly as excited for next year as some of the guys here because going 8-1 in 1 TD games won’t happen again. This team is very special and I’m so happy I’ve been able to watch them through the season.
The team might be better next year, but the record might not improve.
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My thought tis that there will be fewer
1TD games to worry about. A better O should mean more consistent scoring, and a better D should mean less opponent scoring & yardage.
And as long as you dont mess with the formula (ball control, limit mistakes, take advantage of mistakes), an improved talent base should make the team that much better next year.
Okay,
THIS is what worries me regarding Texas. They get a productive QB and they will be a beast to reckon with, both in the Big-12 and nationally.
Longhorn's year will be 2013
they’ll win 9-10 games next year in reg. season, and be in the hunt for the confernece title in 2012. But I think the conference race will come down to: KSU, TCU and Tx. Just a gut feeling, but I think trouble is brewing in Norman.
Just my hunch. Now, if Arkie blows us out, I think we fall out of the picture. We can’t hope to win so many close games next year. We have to improve our talent level and be able to put some teams away.
But this year has been magical. Thanks to the team for the great ride.
oh hail the Purple and White
Texas' situation excepted,
see my response below. We’re on the same page. I also think West Virginia’s offense will give teams fits – if they end up playing in the Big-12 in 2012.
I think I'm right there with you Furnace
I could see Okie State being sorta back in 2013 too, but I think you’re on there.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Kind of my take - and my worry - too, Sean
tough to capture lightning in a bottle twice. The hope has to be that our team is that much better next season, which it very well might be, but who knows? Lots of X factors enter into the equation.
I just appreciate this past season as being one of the most exciting, the most special, the most unbelievable in my lifetime. During the past “great” years (1997, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2003 in particular) we – or I should say “I” – expected the ’Cats to be great. I had no such expectations this season. Starting with the Miami game onwards every single week was a roller-coaster ride of emotions and the season in whole a blessing to behold.
With TB’s blessing, totally hijacking this thread (for a line or two) to tell you all I’ve switched URLs. Bye bye kitchenkc.com. Hello curtiskitchen.com!
Make sure to update any old bookmarks or links you may or may not have. It is redirecting for now, but won’t forever. …now, back to lamenting the fact that Michigan gets to call itself a BCS game winner, or that Va. Tech even gets to show off its participation ribbon…
(I posted this in another thread, but was advised to put it here also, so I did.)
Banhammer!
Oh wait that was me. Nothing to see hear, move along.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Ohhh, Jeremy likey
the new page. You’ve got a rotating feature thing up top like all the big fancy sites. Way to go! :)
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truer words...
It can be every bit beast to prettier teams’ beauty, and it has become the comfortable brush with with traditionalists paint the Wildcats as offensively inept.
Arkansas seems a little too confident
I’m thinking they will come in like every other team who is underwhelmed by our game film and realize they are in trouble when we hit them in the mouth.
I am not a believer in the hype about their passing game. They can’t compare to the speed with with teams like Baylor and OSU snap the ball. They only good teams they played totally shut them down, while the rest of the SEC is designed to stop the run.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think our secondary will struggle like they normally do, but I think we’ll get some turnovers from Malone and Zimmerman to keep things even.
I’m excited to see a focused K-State team show up and hang one on these cocky hogs.
An overconfident SEX conference team? NOOO!
I love the crack from their WR about KSU not being as physical. HA. Wait until Rat pops him.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
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This is starting to have the same feel as the last Cotton Bowl with Tennessee...
we can only hope.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
To clarify from yesterday's slate.
Pan’s love of twilight was posted as a joke and/or troll. I was trying to figure out if Pan was Collin’s Bloody Elbow and figured that would get a response.
Some things you are better off not knowing and I have no inside knowledge of Pan’s love/hate level for twilight.
All we really know about the commenters here is that ChrisP plays the clarinet and Jeremy watches the Bachelor/Bachelorette.
Go State! Pluck the mutant birds!
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions
KU sucks!
Time to win one in the barn! I lke our chances tonight. I’ve got a good feeling about this KSU hoops team. We shall see.
Repeat: KU sucks!
oh hail the Purple and White
by Furnace76 on Jan 4, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I second this sentiment!
(both of them)
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
It was the first time CBE showed up.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
So Pan won't be giving you
the Pan-hammer for initiating that joke, Anon?
Good trolls require risks like that.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Original comment was 11/19, really didn't take long for it to resurface.
I am amused a lot.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Forgot, was that the Texas game thread?
I remember the comment and how a few of us found that awfully embarrassing information for one Pan. Stuck in my mind after that and when I saw Chris mention that ridiculous series yesterday I had to chime in about the rumored fascination.
yes, Texas.
And I thought Pan was trolling us with a 2nd user name.
Paybacks really stink, oh well if I can’t take it I shouldn’t dish it out.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
And I need to clarify...
I don’t WATCH Bachelor/Bachelorette…I HAVE watched in the past. I realized how egregious my error was, and have since corrected my behavior.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Don't be surprised if you show up for work some day and your office is decorated with Bachelor/Bachelorette posters.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I will obviously have to blame you if that happens.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Fair enough.
Anyone on campus want to earn some extra cash? And meet some co-workers of Jeremy’s?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Now every day Jeremy goes into work, he's going to wonder
“Did they or didn’t they decorate my office.”
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I had already forgotten you were plotting this.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Did this correction in behavior
involve a three-week survival course out in the desert, or some such masculinity-reaffirming endeavor?
It involved not watching either of the shows anymore.
And I still like things like cars, guns, sports, and boobs.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Me thinks thou doest protest too much.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
It's almost as if boobs were an after thought.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I put boobs last
because I didn’t want to lump them in with cars, guns and sports. They deserve extra special attention, and the last thing in a list, gives that special attention (IMO).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You have no idea how disappointed this makes me.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
EMAW
wish I could be in the promised land to watch the game in the ville tonight. But the detroit catbackers club, and its three members, will be cheering our hearts out here.
K-S-U ! we'll carry thy banner high
K-S-U ! long long may thy colors fly
by motown wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 11:01 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Glad to hear the Detroit watch club is strong!
I participated in the Atlanta club before I moved back to Manhattan. It is harder to get people to participate for basketball because of the increased number of games, weekday appearances (combined with late start times if you are on the east coast).
GO CATS!!! EMAW!!!
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Announcement is official
Announcement of the announcement.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions
I'm still not sure what is so special about this announcement.
I thought it had been discussed on here some time ago that this was going to go from end zone to end zone, and would provide new club level seats and expensive suites.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I believe it will be the unveiling of the actual design
that those of us that aren’t connected haven’t seen yet…
Well, be warned
anything seen by anyone at this point is still very conceptual in nature.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Nice
I was at K-State when the press box was first unveiled in 1993. At the time it was considered state-of-the-art. I knew Currie had mentioned that upgrading it was a priority, but glad to see the plans are expected to go even further. These are the moves the school and the program need to make to stay competitive.
Well I assume by the wording
and the “sourced” timeline, that the plan is no longer conceptual and has been approved. And if athletics is releasing it in an “official” way such as this, I would also have to imagine it is the approved final decision.
Also, I have seen one possible rendering, but I know there is another I havent seen.
In the construction industry things can be "fully approved"
but still conceptual in nature.
The design process for projects can sometimes take years to complete. Seeing as how the Architects were only selected within the past 3 months, it is still a bit premature to have 100% construction documents ready.
Even when the 100% documents are ready, the final product could still vary from the renderings based on those documents.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Correct.
Concept → Preliminary Drawings → Approved Drawings → Construction Drawings → Bill of Materials → Change Orders → Walk Through → As Built Drawings.
All I can say about the new press box is that they need to make sure that all wires are labeled. All wires are not in a common wiring trough. And ideally use different colors of wires for different functions. (I won’t say why I know that this can cause problems).
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
That would be smart.
I can at least make sure this is taken care of on the fire alarm system, as I will be reviewing those drawings.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
No.
Hale system was designed and installed in 1997. I…was not yet a student at this great University. :)
We are in the process of working on replacing the sprinkler system. I know that doesn’t address the fire alarm issues, but it will solve a lot of the problems that happen when the fire alarm goes off (leaks).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
email me and we can discuss away from here.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Oh come on...
We all want to know which building is all jacked up.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Not commenting in public as it makes me to indentifiable
feel free to email me and I can forward the message I sent to Jeremy.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
If you have had any experience with construction law and how people having nothing to do with a situation can get drawn into litigation, Anon did the correct thing.
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I will volunteer to help with CA on the project.
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Well yes, I do understand how these types of things work
I was going to be an engineer once upon a time…
But what it sounded like you meant by “conceptual” is that it is still just an idea on paper and the plans haven’t even been drawn up or rendering made. I was trying to point out that there would have to be something pretty firm in place for athletics to be publicly releasing the design—just like the basketball training facility; we knew it was going to happen for a while, but once the final design was released publicly, things started moving pretty quick.
And I would assume that you could begin infrastructure/foundation work without having 100%complete documents, as long as what’s not yet complete isn’t structural.
And I’m not trying to argue with you, as you are the one with the degrees and title, I’m just trying to be optimistic and you rained on my parade :-(
Please no.
And I would assume that you could begin infrastructure/foundation work without having 100%complete documents, as long as what’s not yet complete isn’t structural.
This is a good way to make sure you have problems.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Oh you guys just have to make everything so difficult...
why we can’t just use a sh*t ton of 2×4′s, screws, and some pretty paint? That’s gotta work, right????
Screws?
Nothing a 16 penny nail can’t hold.
Got to save where we can for the purple flecked granite counter tops.
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by BlackCats on Jan 4, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why nail when Liquid Nails and Gorilla Glue will do?
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 4, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I guess you are getting quite the golden shower today
and I am also sorry for that.
Don’t even know what I was trying to do by making my comment.
If you all want to be excited, by all means, be excited!
/not meant to be snarky, honestly
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said, I'll live
though intentional or not, you have taken all the fun out of seeing the proposed plans…its no fun when you know more than us but can’t really tell us!! :-P
/im not mad, I promise
Actually my original comment (yesterday)
was wondering where you all were getting your info. Because I have actually NOT seen a lot about this.
I saw the renderings that someone else posted quite awhile back.
But after reading the announcement of the announcement, I don’t think any of you should really be surprised either based on what has already been discussed on BOTC in the past regarding the plans for the expansion.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
I know people. Peoples. Peeps.
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Also, the number I heard was $80 million.
However, the basketball facility was supposed to be $20 million and ended up at $18. So, based on scale, and if they generally overshoot that number, $75 million sounds about right.
I’m still not sold that this is just the press box. Iowa re-did almost all of Kinnick for $80 million, and it’s a larger facility. This is more than the press box. It may not be what I was told it “could” be, but $75 million means there’s more to it than a press box. When it was just the press box, it was like $50 million. Tech did their big press box expansion, which is a freaking Taj Mahal, at $53.5 million (somewhere in there).
Unless everything is gold plated, there’s another whole component to this we’re not being told about in this article. It’s either going to be aesthetic improvements to the whole stadium, or they’re completing the bowl.
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I'd like to see 'em enclose the upper decks and have offices and such in 'em like FL-State.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to see them complete the bowl
I don’t remember who it was, maybe BlackCats, but someone pointed out that more lower level seats is the right answer when upgrading/expanding The Bill, and I agree with them.
I would like something that connects the two ends of the 'shoe
even if it is just a skywalk type of thing.
I would prefer an “upper deck” style seating span that arches over Vanier and connects the new P.B. with the “older” upper deck
I have heard things regarding
additions to Vanier too, to mesh it more into the stadium. Plus, you have to look at ripping out everything on the side, including concessions and restrooms and replacing everything.
Also, I have heard talk of putting a limestone facade in front of the current railing
That would be nice, too
The meshing of Vanier with the stadium complex, I mean.
Esp. on the northeast corner
where there is the stupid little sliver of grass between the stands and Vanier
That's just landscaping!
Nothing stupid about it!
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
The original Populous renderings had that connection.
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So the bball training facility was ~$14 million for a whole new building an all the earth moving, but this is going to be 5 times more expensive?
Good grief.
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Well it is a much larger project involving dealing with existing structures
and the big difference is that the new Press Box should pay for itself within a few years if they fill it up with patrons for every game
Lots more vertical and cantilever than the BB training facility.
Also failure of a press box would make the news, so it has to be designed so it does not fail.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
true
and there really isn’t a whole lot to the basketball training facility. Two basketball courts, some weight rooms, locker rooms, and offices. Yeah, it’s definitely nicer than your local YMCA, but nothing like what has to go into a stadium/pressbox/luxury suite project.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Would also seem a lot simpler desgin/contruction
at least comparatively. The practice facility is a big large box, square corners, straight up and down, etc.
Lines for tonight's game
Spread: KSU (9)
Straight up: KSU (350), KU (-450)
O/U: 139
Perfect. We thrive in this environment.
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Not saying we can't get blown out ...
but that line is too high.
The o/u is probably too high, too.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 4, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
I think with the line
we are definitely seeing the “KU effect” in play. I haven’t been following their lines closely, but I’m pretty sure the line on the Howard game was 31. I have no idea what it has been set at for decent competition this season.
I agree, I think +9 is too high, but those are the kind I like.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
How is +9 too high when we've lost by 14+ every time Frank's coached there?
Don’t hate the messenger — hate the message.
It's a valid point ...
Also, I don’t think it’s too high for Vegas to get even action. I just think it’s a good value for KSU, given the two teams that will actually be on the court tonight.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 4, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I mean
Probably not too high for Vegas action.
But as far as what I expect from the two teams taking the court tonight, I sure hope we beat the spread (I’m actually hoping for a win).
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Stepping in softly today...
At first I thought the o/u was too high as well. Then I remembered that free throws at the end of the game could add another 10 points to either side.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Any thoughts on how the one-sided officiating that's endemic to that barn will affect that game?
When was the last time a KU player fouled-out at home, or had even 4 fouls?
Anyway, I think KU will win fairly easily. The Cats have wet themselves too often at the start of games in Lawrence for me to have any faith, and I don’t trust the KSU bigs to be able to hang with Robinson, particularly if they play stupid.
“"On the last play of the game, we had a play called that was going to be a very successful play," Dimel said. "Collin (Klein) went to check to it, but the clock was running down and we didn’t have a chance to get to the play that we wanted to get to."” GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! Dammit you two! Your inability to get the plays in on time might have cost the Cats the game? How long have you been doing this? Dammit all.
“"Bryce leaving was an unfortunate situation for him, but he never got invested in what we were doing. He never was somebody who put himself in position where everybody around him could count on him to perform on Saturday. So when he didn’t step up, we already knew what we were going to do. It didn’t set us back that much.’’” Yeah, so much for Bryce ever coming back to KSU.
More articles –
http://cjonline.com/sports/2012-01-03/ku-guards-must-handle-cats-pressure – I hope Irving is fully healthy.
http://curtiskitchen.com/k-state-is-offensive/
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Yeah, expecting the classic opening 4 minutes ...
ku will come out on fire etc, etc. It’s going to happen. Question is how far will it go before KSU rights the ship and claws back.? A 10-2 start or a 18-4 start?
I’m debating whether or not both Jamar and JO get 2 fouls before the second tv timeout. Jamar, no doubt. JO maybe.
Thomas Robinson is going to have to murder someone on the court to commit a foul while this game is within 10 points.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 4, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
A disticnt possibility
Thomas Robinson is going to have to murder someone on the court to commit a foul while this game is within 10 points.
when it comes to anyone on the KU BBall team…would probably get a diversion for it too…
I think that in the TGip and TRob battle
TGip will definitely end up with more fouls. And very likely he will be in foul trouble in the first half.
A 10-4 start we can overcome. An 18-4 start…and well, go ahead and grab a fork.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
All I know is that we will undoubtedly draw Higgins tonight.
You know he’s already preening in front of a mirror, making sure his frosted tips look just so.
Higgins + Armstrong + Allen Fieldhouse = long night for me.
I'm going to need alcohol. Lots of it.
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Just got to thinking as I was reading some of today's articles.
I know that I kept saying all season long that we had not seen our full playbook yet, and was hoping that with each game we would see a little more. I was actually a bit disappointed at what we saw in the way of depth of playbook.
Do you think we will finally see some wrinkles (halfback pass) on Friday? I really liked that halfback handoff then jump pass that we used on that failed 2 point attempt. Would like to see that again in a different situation. I guess we could expect some reverses or double reverses if Little Lockett was playing, but not so much with him on the sideline.
Just saw something in one of the articles about Snyder and his “bag of tricks” and wondered if we’ll actually see any of those, or if we will stick to the vanilla that got us to where we are.
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I bet a little of both.
Mostly vanilla. Maybe a trick or two if needed.
/noncommitmentachieved
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Anyone see
THIS? Interesting read.
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I saw TRob and Releford
on the concourse after the game as I was walking out. Surprise the heck out of me til I remembered that Travis’s brother plays for Bama.
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Fellow, BOTCers, I need your help...
…what is the most EMAW-friendly bar in the KC Metro area?
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Probably Lucky Brewgrille down in Mission.
I’m sure the boys will meet you there with bells on.
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I was afraid to chime in, because I've been pretty much out of the game for a while ...
But that’s the one I would have thought.
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That seems to be the consensus here and on Twitter. Thanks.
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by TB on Jan 4, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Well - this sucks: Boeing to close its facility in Wichita
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-close-wichita-facility-end-164854935.html
Jeezzz, this state can’t seem to catch a break. The damn company runs this state for 60 years, and now will leave our largest city high and dry.
Doesn’t one of the regulars here work in the air industry in Wichita. And I’m not trying to get political, but this really hurts the whole state. Damn!
oh hail the Purple and White
I was thinking the same thing
I had family that moved to Wichita just because of Boeing. It’s a crock really, from a bunch of crooks. They used the Kansas congressmen to fight their battle on the hill for a giant contract, then “decide” Wichita is no longer feasible…its quite petty and sh*tty if you ask me
Boeing sucks
Wichita will be fine though for two reasons.
1. The Boeing closure is 1/8th the number of people that got laid off when Corporate Jets were being attacked, and most of those people are back to work.
2. There is some heavy lifting left to do, but look for an announcement in 90 to 120 days that will make people ask, Boeing who? If the timing can be worked out, these employees won’t be out of work a day.
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Do you know people that know people???
I hope Cessna or Some other big hitter there picks up the slack.
The facility would also be nice for an auto company that has government contracts
I am the people people know.
Helping companies relocate/retain/expand/close is part of what I do. Nothing is a done deal yet, but it is in the home stretch.
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You always hook me in with your vague optimism.
I hope you're right
Damned Boeing.
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Yeah it does.
And Boeing actually promised the State they would expand the Wichita operation if they were awarded some new defense contract. Well, they won said contract,and are now bailing (after our State Legislators fought hard for them to get that contract).
Douchenozzles.
At least 2100 people will be losing their job (or hopefully can be relocated).
Totally sucks for Wichita.
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The comments are even better than the article
I can actually picture the nostrils of those commentors flaring as they were typing their responses.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 4, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts as well.
My sig needs updated.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'll still count their 7 in a row.
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Bill Snyder Family Stadium getting a 75mil rennovation
I just saw that the Bill is getting 75mil dollar face lift. At first I was really excited to hear this, I always thought that we should complete the bowl and close off the north end. But no, all of that money is for an improved press box and club seating. I just hope they aren’t making the same mistake as the Chiefs where they build a bunch of club seating expecting the money to roll in, and then have them sit empty all season long.
Anybody know a good place to wach the Cotton Bowl in the Old Town area of Wichita?
I have to be there for my nephew’s wedding.
I would suggest Old Chicago
I was just there on Friday night, and they have plenty of TVs.
I’m sure there are other places as well, but I don’t know of them. I also don’t know how likely it will be to get the sound turned on for the game at Old Chicago.
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Don't know but I'd imagine it would be on all over.
Old Town’s a good time.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Arkie Game.
The only concern I have is the Arkie Defense, not sure how the CK-express will do against ’em. I think it will be a good match up. As for the K-State D, turn overs will help a bunch in winning this game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 5:18 PM CST reply actions
K-State offense can't start off rusty
No 14-0 deficits to make up, thank you. That would spell some real trouble.
Think I'll try to watch the first part of the game in HD,
of course if we start losing big I’ll have to get on here to vent.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 4, 2012 5:20 PM CST reply actions
I don't get it in HD here in Manhattan
because I have Directv, and for some reason, Directv customers do not get the local channels in HD in Manhattan. I asked customer service about this and ultimately I was told “well…errr…uh…it’s political.”
And I’ll be damned if I am going to deal with the 5 second delay on ESPN3, when I can see it “real time” (acknowledges the delay due to satellite transmission).
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Wow, Bryan Hickman passed away
Terrible news. Just heard about it reading Curtis’ newly refined website. Very sad for the Hickman family and all of Wildcat Nation.
KSU fans, take a deep breath, sit down
And think about the idea of a Dana Holgerson Offense and a Chirs Cosh defense next year. Gulp. WVU up 49-20 at the half. Though it appears some of that has to do with Clemson TOs.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
70-33 Final.
Dear BCS:
Never, ever, invite ACC schools to the party again…they suck.
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I mean technically
Clemson won the conference, nothing could be done about that.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Not giving out auto-bids to champions of pathetic conferences perhaps?
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Exactly.
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