Open Game Thread: K-State vs. Iowa State
by TB on Jan 31, 2012 7:53 PM CST
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PrintKansas St. Wildcats at Iowa St. Cyclones, Jan 31, 2012 8:00 PM CST
Who: K-State vs. Iowa State
When: January 31, 2012 | 8:00 p.m.
Where: Ames, Iowa | Hilton Coliseum (14,356)
Media: Fox Sports Midwest, ESPN3 | 1350 KMAN
Sorry this is late, but I had to find some Boulevard Chocolate Ale.
Go Cats!
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anybody been watching this "game" between Illinois and Mich St?
38-37 with just under 4 minutes left in the game.
Talk about fugly.
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enjoy this one without me boyz n gurlz...
Wife and I have tickets to The Second City tonite at 7:30.
Let’s go win a fuggin’ game, eh?
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 31, 2012 7:58 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
You in Chicago?
The wife and I went to see one of their shows a few years ago, it was really funny.
And yes, let’s win.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
WyattVision tonight
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:02 PM CST reply actions
we've won 10 of the last 11 against ISU?
but we are pretty close to .500 over the last 10 with Nebraska? How does that happen?
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I can only listen ... and it is hard to know what is really going on.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Yay, ISU missed a shot, and we celebrate by turning the ball over
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Dr. Pepper with real sugar.
Not sure that it is Dublin though.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM CST reply actions
Look on the label...
…it will tell you where it’s bottled. Some is bottled in Dublin, some is bottled in Temple.
If it has the “Imperial Sugar” logo on it, then it’s legit.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
Imperil sugar is on it.
But the only city name is Plano, TX. Think because they lost the law suit they had to change the bottles.
Those 8 oz bottles are awful small and it is kind of expensive but tasty.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I forgot Plano has a bottling plant, too.
It’s not “technically” Dublin Dr Pepper, but that’s only because it’s bottled somewhere else. The bottling plants were the same before and after the lawsuit, but now it’s going to be nearly impossible to find the Dublin variety.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
But they just had to remove the Dublin part, otherwise I thought things were the same?
I found this in Walmart.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
It's a weird deal.
They’ve always bottled Dr Pepper made with Imperial Sugar at locations other than Dublin, but it’s not “technically” DDP unless it’s made in Dublin. But there’s no difference; if it’s made with Imperial Sugar, it’s the same thing.
The difference is a matter of principle. I believe the stuff that’s bottled in Plano or Temple is bottled by “big” Dr Pepper (Dr Pepper/Snapple), while the stuff that’s bottled in Dublin is truly Dublin Dr Pepper. And you’re right, after the lawsuit, there’s no such thing as Dublin Dr Pepper.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Either way real sugar soda is much better than HFCS variety.
I could drink a large amount of this, so I probably won’t buy too much more.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's incredible.
I didn’t think Mexican Coke was that great, but Dr Pepper with cane sugar is incredible.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
The mexican coke-cola needs to be ice cold to get the full benefit.
And it makes a better mixer for rum and whiskey than the non-sugar coke-cola.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
That wouldn't surprise me.
And interesting you say that, because I feel like DDP is pretty damn good even when it gets a little warm.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I will neither confirm nor deny that 2 of my bottles were empty shortly after arrival home.
The other 4 were nice and chilly though.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
An ISU friend of mine informs me...
…that they would be thrilled if Hoiberg would put Chris Allen on the bench and leave him there.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Angel playing great.
Wish Rod would be a bit more aggressive. And JO can’t guard White that far out or he’s going to get burned a whole lot.
Also Sprads, come on man. If you’re going to shoot so poorly, at least don’t turn it over.
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Yeah, if he's going to hit that, we'll take it all the time
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Man we have lazy turnovers often.
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Yep.
But we are consistent.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Two terrible plays by VO. He doesn't bring enough to the table...
…to justify plays like those.
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Great rebound.
Dumb shot.
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If we're going to have VO guard Royce White...
…we may as well just give up now. Nothing against VO, but he’s no match for Royce White.
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Yeah, what the hell is this.
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WTF, VO?
Do not ever shoot a three pointer.
Get him out of there. This is ridiculous.
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Vic didn't shoot a three...
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yes he did
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Huh?
Am I going blind? Given I am dealing with the paint smears on a screen that is the ESPN3 stream…
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top of the key?
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, seriously, he did.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad I could not see that.
I’d have to borrow a soft toy from Pan to throw at the TV.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Thank god for Angel's hustle.
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Poor attempt at a finish by JO inside...
…but great hustle by Rodriguez leads to a three by Tay.
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damn you're way delayed compared to me
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't type that immediately after the play.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Seems like we have Bad Jamar again.
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Fucking Cox.
Internet goes down, rest Internet, cable goes out.
Cox tech support: unplug it, wait 10 seconds. That didn’t work? We have to send a tech.
Wtf? How about you train your people a little better jack ass! Arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
try unplugging it for a minute or 5.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Oh my God
Do you work for them? Because you could totally be the supervisor I takes to.
Dude, just leave it unplugged for a while and call back if it doesn’t work.
Um, thanks dude.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
By unplugging it you are letting it get back to a 'fresh' start.
There are capacitors in the device which will hold a charge for a wee bit. 5 minutes and the capacitors should be bled off, so the memory of whatever state is gone. If the device is in a stuck state and you quickly unplug it and plug it back in the capacitors can maintain enough power to stay in the stuck mode.
My understanding of the situation is probably better than the supervisor from a how the device is designed and why you do this step.
You can also use a big hammer to reset the device but then you need lots of glue to put it back to a useable device.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Angel is too important to be this dumb a defender.
Same thing every game. And it absolutely kills us.
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Getting absolutely nothing out of our front court.
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Our seven footer just got blocked twice on the same play
And then committed his second foul on the other end.
Woof.
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JO or Diaz?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
JO
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
JO
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sprads needs to stop back pivoting so often.
He needs to be willing to be more aggressive.
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Nice take by Gip!
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GIPSON WITH THE RESPONSE LAYUP
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A LAYUP WITH AUTHORITY
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AND ANOTHER LAYUP
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IT'S LIKE A WOMEN'S GAME UP IN HERE
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OR LIKE RON ANDERSON REINCARNATE
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RON ANDERSON NEVER GOT THE CREDIT HE DESERVED. I WISH HE STILL PLAYED FOR US
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YELL LOUDER!
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ALKSJALKJFAKDJAKDADFSDAF
!!!!!
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He's actually having a very solid year for USF.
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Yeah, he is. I wasn't being sarcastic. I always liked Ron.
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I liked RA as well.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Pan arrives with a strong showing
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Say what you will...
…but these guys are battling right now.
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I like how they are playing right now
Just wish the turnovers and foul count were down…
Being carried by the freshmen.
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I really hope we land Semi Ojeleye, and he's worth this.
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yep
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
My voodoo hex of Christopherson worked.
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It only required the stuffing sacrifice of a small, toy chicken
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Hope you have a box of those, we might need more hexes this year.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well crap, Rod.
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yep to this as well.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Arm sleeve at work in a professional setting. Appropriate?
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For you or me, no...
…for Michael Beasley, yes.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
didn't they used to have sleeve covers or something for office types ... circa 1880's?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Irving!!!!
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My feed is apparently a few seconds behind.
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Apologies.
I will refrain from giving more away.
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Gip giving big time minutes.
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He played atrocious defense up front, but overall, yeah.
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Hey, that's what we say at the gym. Forgive me.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
One FT this half is pathetic.
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Neither really.
Actually hitting shots though on perimeter.
Largely a stupid comment by me. Prone to those now and then.
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one attempt would lead me to think the team isn't play aggressive
especially when ISU has 13 FTA. The refs are calling shit.
But if the outside game has been solid, and the few inside looks have been mostly jump shots, that sort of explains it. Sort of.
Haha these homer announcers are hilarious.
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Tee up Slim Jim!
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You can't stop Martavious Irving. You can only hope to...what? Martavious?
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Love Tay.
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MARTAVIOUS IRVING HAS BEEN POSSESSED BY THE SPIRIT OF NICK RUSSELL
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BUT AS SOON AS THIS GAME IS OVER, THAT SPIRIT WILL PROBABLY TRANSFER TO SMU TOO
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Nah, Tay's just borrowing it from Jeremy Jones for the evening.
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SMU! SMU!
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Quick! What other former KSU point guard transfered to SMU?
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Probably was before your time.
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Dez Willingham
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Well done.
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Phew. Well, he was there my last year of college, I think, so 03-04?
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That sounds right. Don't know for sure, but it was while I was in MHK.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
He was in the same freshman class with Cartier Martin.
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I have no idea.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
CBS game tracker has little animated figures and a basketball.
Not sure that it helps the experience of listening on the radio.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 8:43 PM CST reply actions
Rod is off.
Good news? The Paradox has actually showed up tonight.
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That was a great putback by Diaz
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He's playing very well.
All our freshmen have.
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This was Frank's best class by far.
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Ah...Jamar. *starry eyes*
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Jamar for 3?
I’m not sure that’s a good thing, but I’ll take it.
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I'm fine with Jamar taking 1 or 2 attempts
He can make them from time to time, just don’t want him getting overconfident with it.
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Really solid half.
If only Rod was being Rod we’d be up double digits.
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So, Pan, are you mainlining coffee tonight?
Judging by the schedule at my sister’s house this weekend and recent FB posts, I’m guessing you’re not getting much sleep.
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I did today. I'm just going to drink water tonight and see what happens.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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I think you nailed it.
Although Pan’s going surprisingly strong at this point.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Why can't we have Asians unicycling at halftime?
For shame, K-State. For shame.
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Asians?
Being Ames, I would have figured Canadians were more likely.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
They're probably Asian-Canadian
Like Paul Kariya
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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Frank Halftime/post game comments highlight
Not a single fuck given.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
What'd he say?
Us ESPN3ers are stuck on ISU broadcast.
Amazingly, there have been no actual fouls against ISU tonight and Kansas State has gotten some friendly bounces.
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They had a montage of his halftime and postgame interviews with Stan.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think Stan takes Frank taking it out on him as a sign of love
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Stockholm Syndrome for sure.
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At least he wasn't kissed ...
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
I missed what he actually said
But they put together a highlight vid of his quips this year.
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10 players tonight
Question can we play as well in the 2nd?
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The depth has worked very well tonight because the subs (besides OJ) have played really well.
Irving, Paradox, and Diaz played great minutes.
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KansasStateCars.com?
WHAT?
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I must have missed something. Of course, I'm also a zombie right now.
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Missed it. Details, please.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
It
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Oops.
It was a commercial for the website, where apparently you can go shop for cars and if you buy, KSU athletics gets a donation or something.
Anon informs me it’s actually been around awhile, connected with Briggs.
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Just 10 years.
Way to stay on top of things.
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WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME
I was stuck in Virginia for 12 years, and now I’ve been stuck in “it doesn’t matter because I can’t afford to go anywhere at all” for five.
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I know it was around in 2003.
Bought a car from them.
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so my tablet and espn3 aren't getting along well and my wife is using the desktop
Let me know when 2nd half starts up so I can wyattvision this b*tch
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Semi Ojeley scored 50 points against Spring Hill tonight.
That is all.
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*Ojeleye
Sorry, Semi and Victor.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously though, highly doubt he comes to KSU.
Would love to have him, but I predict he goes to Stanford or Harvard.
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Frank is a genius!!!
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i totally took the headline out of context then when i read
Spring hill hit by a semi
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Can anyone in Spring Hill play basketball?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
When I was in high school they were pretty good.
I think they won that league a couple times. However, that is mostly a 4A league. Plus it’s been a while since then.
Why was he playing a hotel team?
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I know they can't play defensive football.
Pretty sure they allowed like 92 points in a game a year or two ago when that one football player died from overexhaustion.
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I have to get this off my chest.
Earlier today, someone from ESPN tweeted about getting your sick voices ready for National Signing Day tomorrow.
Now, I don’t mean to be rude to anyone. But if you think that National Signing Day is worth skipping work for, then follow these instructions.
1. Find a gun
2. Load a bullet in it
3. Shoot yourself
Seriously, it’s a bunch of kids deciding where they’ll go to college. It’s not the opening day of March Madness.
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LOL!
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Probably.
But seriously, the people who are over-invested in college football recruiting need to get some professional help.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
Look, TB. You just need to accept this.
There are dozens of recruits whose rankings are vitally dependent on where they decide to go to school.
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This is true.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
recruit #1: I signed with K-State obviously I'm a 2.5 star recruit.
recruit #1 clone: I signed with Texas obviously I’m a 4 star recruit.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
What if I just want to spend a third day on the golf course?
I mean, who the fuck golfs in Feburary? This guy*
*Only when it’s over 60.
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I hate you so much.
I really wanted to play golf today.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Not a bad idea
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
Black, get to work on finding some sponsors
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
What do we need sponsors for?
Are we raising money for something?
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Well, no, but we can't pay for the whole thing ourselves
Or…maybe we could.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Free booze would help and drivers for the ride home.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless they've jacked the fee
I’ll pay for Willie. You’re on your own for booze and a taxi.
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Will we need long straws for Willie's drinks?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
He is surprisingly nimble with that head.
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I'm all in favor of raising money.
Can I be everyone’s favorite charity?
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Everyone pays their own green fees.
Unless you need some of this.
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Handicapped golfers.
*see what i did there?
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I call not Pan
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Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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In scrambles, I'm more concerned with drinking beer and having fun...
…so I’ll take Pan.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, take that BlackCats. Enjoy your "winning"
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Can we make him a mascot?
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Do you all REALLY want to see me suffer four hours of continuous back spasms?
/misses golf
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Should have played yesterday.
My weather rock said 71.
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71?!...wow that's crazy...
I’m getting married in March. Thats probly when it will snow knowing my luck…lol
Your fucked
And the weather will probably be crappy too.
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by BlackCats on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Everybody who is married should rec this
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
I shouldn't mention that it was 70F today, should I?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
I only got 66.
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It was 60F when I left the living quarters this morning.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure why they would say that...
It’s not like SEC fans have jobs to call in sick to right?
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
In other news, Clemson forms Athletic Advisory Committee.
Whistles and walks away…
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Gipson with the Patrick Ewing slide
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Well, this was a good start to the half.
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Not a bad start to the half.
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As mercurial as Jamar can be,
props to him for becoming a much much better FT shooter.
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Yes, this
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Why does Will get a free pass from Frank?
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Horrible header.
Nowhere near on goal.
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Best three minutes of the year for this team?
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When watching Rodney, I like to imagine some 70's funk music playing when he has the ball. Like something out of Semi Pro.
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He's so beautifully old school.
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He's so hot, he's ice cold.
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I'm so confused.
We get punked twice by freakin’ Oklahoma.
But we humilated Missouri, and now we’re spanking Iowa State in Ames.
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Ton of time left.
Don’t forget – 12 to 6 minutes in 2nd half is our drought time.
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/youngteamcliche
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Oh good, one of those crews that calls each half like a different game.
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True story: I was good friends in high school with Chris Babb's cousin.
I may have met him at some family gathering at some point, but he obviously would have been very, very young.
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His father and uncles used to own a BBQ joint on 10th and Fairlawn in Topeka. I used to get to eat there for free.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
So anyone see the KU response to the "We are Mizzou" video?
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Good Lord, no.
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Heard about it, but haven't seen it.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Enjoy the satirical genius of douchebags.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Why would you do that to yourself?
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Morbid Curiousity
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
That was embarrassing.
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Look, Frank, I like Vic, too.
But he is no match for Royce White.
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Good at d against Babb though...
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I didn't even see the original actually...heard a lot of people
making fun of it tho. I imagine it was just five straight verses of “We are going to the SEC and we hate KU…” so it really wasnt that intriguing to me to be honest…
I don't think most people were able to make it through more than 30 seconds or so
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I've watched it longer a couple times
mostly because I like to laugh at the kid in the middle at the beginning…dude is really awkward.
I like to think it’s my guilty pleasure :-P
Do they grease the basketballs in Iowa or something?
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It's butter. It gets on everything up there.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Man, lost opportunities there.
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How many times they going to let ISU foul with no call?
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Ok, Jamar you can shoot another one.
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They're just daring Jamar to keep shooting threes.
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Hoiberg has now officially run out of cards in the deck
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When Ben Boyle yells, a baby seal gets clubbed to death
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Fortunately, it doesn't happen often
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Hey
Not my fault they make great coats. Blame God. He designed them.
At least that’s what it says in Topeka High School science books.
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by BlackCats on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
Asian girl white guy pumps inside the journalist.
by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Oh come on refs.
That’s embarrassing.
Let the crowd make the call.
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Jamar looks like a chia pet
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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OMG they do whistle ISU.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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It's like Bramlage, but almost angrier
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Fueld by fried candy bars and walking tacos
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Remember when they were chanting "You're not Amish" the last time we went up there with Jake?
Sure glad they cleared that one up :/
Good point. But if anyone should know what Amish looks like...
…it’s Iowans. Or central Missourians.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Or those from Anderson County
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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Or anyone on US 69 between I-44 and Muskogee.
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Should have been a foul on Royce White to punish him for flopping.
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Man, Frank just bit Mart's face off.
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Jeebus let's put this away already.
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Way too much time to be talking about that.
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ISU cheerleaders - woof.
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I dunno, I just saw one I wouldn't be ashamed to take home.
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Here comes the derping
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Good God, this place looks like an Occupy Ames rally before the riot police get there
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You should've seen Occupy Austin this November
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
I bet there was a ton of tye dye there
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My favorite was...
…the guy with a “Corporations are evil” sign who was jamming out to his iPod.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing says anti-Corporation quite like an iPod.
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Two horrible defensive sets for KSU there.
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by BlackCats on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
WTH ref why do you wait to call that?
When did continuation come to the college game?
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This year.
I don’t remember seeing it last year, but this year it is almost like the NBA circa 1990.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Angel is playing extremely well.
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Circus act shots here we go again.
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This has to be the Cyclone Network and its announcers.
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Yes.
They’re ridiculous.
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ESPN3?
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeppers.
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Yep.
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Love their move to question every foul call,
but qualify the statement by saying ISU needs to adjust to the way the game is getting called.
A perfect way to claim unfavorable treatment and attempt not to sound whiny.
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Too late on the whiny part.
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So, as you may have guessed from the text in the post...
…I finally got my hands on the Boulevard Chocolate Ale tonight.
It was good. It didn’t change my life or anything, but it was good.
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Wow, how did you pull that one off?
I heard it is nigh on impossible to find right now…
It's been farily easy to find at bars.
All the liquor stores are sold out, but I found it at a couple bars in Lee’s Summit.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
We're you at Barley's tonight?
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No, I went to Mingle in Lee's Summit...
…specifically because they had a huge sign out front that said “Boulevard Chocolate Ale Is Here.”
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Next time you find one, save me one, and I'll pay you cash money.
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If I find it at a liquor store, I'll save some.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
This color guy on espn3
is the MOST BORED COMMENTATOR I HAVE EVER HEARD.
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Man, Askia Jones. Good memories.
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Yes.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
The only reason I'm glad I actually know a Fresno State grad.
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I saw Jones score 67 in the NIT.
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Jones' shot to beat ISU at the buzzer in 1990
In a word, ridiculus.
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Good God, Steve Henson and Askia Jones on the same team.
How did we ever miss?
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Richmond, Will Scott and Henson.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Oh Paradox.
That is why you’re the Paradox.
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Is that the third time Royce White has posterized VO tonight? Ouch.
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Boyle shut up. Royce White is not Blake Griffin. He's not in the same neighborhood.
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Neighborhood? More like galaxy.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Frank, this defense on Royce White is an embarrassment of a strategy.
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Horrible call...horrible.
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Holy shit Ojeyle
hell of a block
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Lesson for Angel to learn - grab the ball in contention.
Don’t need to turn it into a fast break in that situation.
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Yeah, that's one where you just need to grab the ball
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell was that shit?
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Was that Irving?
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Yes
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
That was beyond words...bad.
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Note to K-State fans this is what the home crowd should do ... make noise when the team is playing great but behind.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions
SANDSTORRRRRRM
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To hell with it.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
They don't seem to sandstorm as hard.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Do we have trouble with the idea of putting teams away in games?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:40 PM CST reply actions
oh god we're texas a&m football
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Welcome back Will!!!!
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Sprawdling!
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EL FLAMO BLANCO!
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
Bad shot.
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And then a derp.
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And then he chucks a pointless duck from 25.
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42
With 10 still on the clock.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
And no one under the basket to even attempt a rebound.
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maybe he misread the shot clock? instead of 9 seconds he saw 1 or 0?
Benefit of the doubt? He hit one, he was feeling confident in his short for the first time all season?
That was a suprisingly convienent steal.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
So we have a 14pt lead and piddle it away to this display of basketball.
Inconsistent youthful play.
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You know, normally I'm full of vitriol for opposing teams
But I just can’t hate ISU.
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Only when we play them.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Its hard for me to hate them to
as I once spent 5 years in Hawkeye territory…
Its because we normally beat them.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Nice to see Will hit a 3 pointer
but where the frack has the defense gone??
This has become the biggest game of the year.
If this team can finish a tight game on the road against a good team in a hostile environment, it could do wonders for confidence.
If they lose, not only will it make it an uphill battle to finish above ISU, but will be the fourth game the team could have won but didn’t have what it took.
I’m really hoping we pull this one out.
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in away, this is alot like the 2010 football team. Lost some close games last year.
Then won those this year.
Yep. We really need this one.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Vic is playing a STRONG half.
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If we keep the lead into the last minute, let's hope the FT's are made.
/has doubts.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM CST reply actions
McGruder fouled no call.
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this is a game the team needs him to step up.
Great to see the team play well with him struggling, but now that its tight, need McGruder.
Damn VO is playing better
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Yup. Need him to convert a couple of these.
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Royce White's free throws are terribly awkward looking
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Goddamnit.
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Jesus
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Shit, no more Angel.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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Terrible call give Angel his 5th foul.
That was a freaking block.
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Yup. Garbage call.
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A few bad possession on defense and questionable calls have allowed ISU back into this.
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Umm...that was NOT a charge.
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Yeah, that was bullshit.
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I'm glad I'm not watching this I might be yelling just a wee bit.
But this is supposed to be a good crew of officials.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
My wife just told me to calm down
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Silly woman.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Ejim wasn't set and wasn't vertical. That's a horrible call.
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Angel was great tonight.
He will learn through these experiences to avoid the silly fouls.
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Yeah, I hate the call on his 5th...
…but the reason he got there was the silly fouls earlier.
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by TB on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Lucky.
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DIAZ
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Hey guys, I just got off work
I’ve got the game on ESPN3 now, but I was just gamecasting at the office. I have lots of questions, but first of all, what the hell happened to that big lead?
Some bad defense and Big 12 officiating.
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Irving a tale of two halves.
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Third circus move to the basket for ISU that goes.
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Come on, Vic.
These are big.
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10 boards!
Big time.
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Does anyone else think that Diaz should have gotten an and-one
for an over the back on that put back?
VO is leading in rebounds with 10.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 PM CST reply actions
That can't be good, can it?
I mean, I’m really happy for him and all, but I can’t help but feel like that signifies poor rebounding from the other guys.
by Ahearn Alley on Jan 31, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
If CBS is to be trusted we have 33 vs ISU's 27.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that's good
But the rebounding on that possession was piss-poor.
by Ahearn Alley on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Christopherson pushes off.
Irving could have drawn a charge if he dropped to the ground.
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We are not getting any benefit of calls tonight.
Irving did reach there.
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Rodney looks panicked whenever he has the ball now.
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WHAT THE HELL
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Rodney fouled again no call.
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How is that not a foul?
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I fear this is who this team is.
Can’t close out games.
Very tough to watch, but not as bad when you’ve seen it five times.
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They call that bullshit after McGruder gets mugged. Fuck this.
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Stan is not happy.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:57 PM CST reply actions
derp Wyatt, not Stan
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Neither of them seemed happy.
That non-foul was complete BS by the refs.
My sig needs updated.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Neither is Stan
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
He was not looking forward to asking Martin a question after the game...
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Unbelievable.
This team will find any way to lose.
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FUCK
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These refs are atrocious.
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Oh my God
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Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
BULLSHIT FUCKING BULLSHIT
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That's the right call.
That is just what this team has done all year.
Not getting those loose balls that decide a game.
One of the least clutch teams I’ve seen in awhile.
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It's a young team. Young generally does not equal clutch.
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For sure.
Just overdue time to adjust expectations.
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Irving was mauled on the court.
Earlier they called Angel for something that was not as agregious.
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 31, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Derp
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Fucking refs.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I was talking about the no call on three fouls on one end
And a tickytac call at the other.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
quit looking at their butts.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
K-State 12 ISU 9 fouls for the half.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:00 PM CST reply actions
That's probably about right, if you were to average it out over a hundred halves
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LOL
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we just got fucked in half
Fuck this shit I’m out
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Fucking ridiculous.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Wow
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Absolutely fucking BS.
My sig needs updated.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:01 PM CST reply actions
I'm not even mad. We just need to put a bullet in the chamber and mercy kill this sesaon.
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to be fair, the officiating was awful in the final 2 minutes.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
We had a 14 point lead. I'm not blaming the officials at all.
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Not to mention we missed a rebound on a key FT, then on a key missed shot, then kicked the ball around until landing on it out of bounds.
Not on the refs at all.
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Not only on the refs, for sure.
But the refs did plenty to deserve their fair share of the blame.
The team shouldn’t blame the refs, because they have no control over the officiating and can’t change it.
But since us fans have no control over any of the game, we can blame everyone wh deserves blame, and the refs definitely deserve a good heaping of fucking blame.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
for once I 'might' agree with ChrisP.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
just enjoy the wins at this point.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Too many bad offensive possessions where
there was nothing on the perimeter and no inside game. As for defense, if ISU wasn’t turning it over, they were scoring it.
Oh I agree,
I’m just saying we still could have won it save for one horrible call
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by Jeremy Sharp on Jan 31, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
And an ineffective McGruder.
Worst game to have a bad shooting night.
This.
Tougher to get upset when this team has done this so many times. This is who this team is. They are the anti-2011 KSU football team.
I hope it makes the team better in the long run and doesn’t break the team’s spirit.
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+1
It’s a team with very limited firepower (which we all knew) that doesn’t have any “it” factor to make up for the deficit. They try hard enough, but there is a mix of offensive skill, effort, and moxie it takes to close out games. I think you can be deficient in one area and still be ok most times. You can’t be deficient in two.
Oh … and this is a completely different team than it appeared to be when the non-con was finished. I don’t even recognize it anymore. All you need to say is VO is getting 20 minutes. Doesn’t matter that he’s pretty much playing his best, the fact that he’s out there says it all.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
Second chance U strikes again.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
If you'll all excuse me
I have to go kill puppies, slap babies, and blaspheme.
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Blaspheme?
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
There is no excuse.
Yet another huge lead blown. What the fuck happened to that supposedly strong Kansas State defense?
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Wow
They have some really shitty plastic surgeons in Ames.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Time to curb stomp Iowa State on NCAA football 12 on junior varsity settings...
Iowa State has earned a little hate tonight.
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To all you out there who "can't hate on ISU"
Do you hate them now?
Because my personal hate meter just skyrocketed.*
*probably to plummet by morning
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
unfortunately, no. ISU was the better team the final 8-10 minutes of the game.
not unlike when they lost to KU in Lawrence. But, beating KU on Saturday gives them points in my book. I don’t hate ISU. I am disgusted at our team for not closing out yet again.
I disagree.
ISU was the better team the final 8-10 minutes of the game.
They got some lucky breaks, I wouldn’t say they were lights out better though.
And considering that we led the entire game I will not say the better team won tonight.
I agree that our team deserves plenty of blame, but I am just not going to let go of the crap we had to endure as easily as some of you seem to be able too.
I’ll rejoin the ranks of the sane in the morning, for now, though, I am filled with rivalry (Farmageddon…) induced hatred.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
That future schedule is depressing.
Going 9-9 is going to be an accomplishment at this point.
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We'll always have the win over MU by double digits.
/hasn’t looked at the schedule too much, but this doesn’t sound good.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I sense an upcoming NIT bid.
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have to admit, didn't see that coming into the season.
Didn’t anticipate this level of youthfulness or lack of leadership.
This pattern of giving up double digit leads
in the 2nd half is getting tired. Can anybody please explain? In addition, I fear this game was a must win in terms of getting into the NCAA…thoughts?
aTm-itis?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 31, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
The weird thing is...
…I laughed at the KU loss because it was so typical. I could deal with the Baylor loss, even though it hurt. The two OU losses were just stunning. But this one really hurts.
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I feel like I did at the end of 08-09. I'm just ready for us to end this season so everyone can get a little older and a little better.
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Well it effectively just swapped our position with ISU in the NCAA tourney argument.
Would have been a big win. But we haven’t hit “those” shots this year while WVU, OU, Baylor, and ISU have.
Angel fouling out killed us. As has been stated above, he needs to learn his value to this team (see: OU x2, tonight) and realize how much damage his silly touch fouls are and needs to adjust.
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Too much money is getting put into the program right now to be playing like this.
If we don’t make a 68 team field and get into the tourny Curry and Martin need to have a talk about his job status.
Frank has bought himself more than a bad year. Let's not go crazy, here.
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I agree with this completely.
But I also think that there needs to be some serious introspection going on in the coach’s offices now.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
He's obviously seeing something we aren't
Victor is playing 20+ minutes and JO is playing 3.
Look, I know what BigE’s going to say, and Victor didn’t play horrible tonight (He got 10 boards.), but that’s making a statement about something.
Will is starting and getting heavy minutes right now, and he’s playing absolutely horrible basketball on all fronts. Offense, defense, etc.
My personal feeling is that Frank is trying to lay a foundation this year. If he runs a bunch of people off, it’s a bad plan. If the majority stay, it may work out next year.
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I know it sounds like a broken record, coming from me, but
I don’t know how much of a “foundation” he’s laying by playing a fairly high upside 7-footer for 3 minutes, and a very LOW upside walkon for 20+. I can see letting Will play through his struggles, but he’s benching other young guys who are struggling. Looking at this game alone, the sub pattern issue is in stark relief to how Hoiberg used his guys. I just think Frank is buying trouble by using such schizo sub patterns, in that I can’t really blame a kid for not playing well when you’re always looking over your shoulder, afraid of being benched.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Frankly, with this current generation, I wouldn't worry to much about their confidence.
Kids are way too confident these days (I guess myself included).
I doubt many of them are playing scared. I guarantee you that they all think they can make the plays when they need to, regardless of how often Frank pulls them, or how often they fail.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know, CPW.
I just watched my boys basketball team pull off a huge upset on Friday (62-58) over a team that was faster and more athletic than us. We played with confidence and verve, and refused to give in. And then on Monday, we played a team that had struggled some against the team we had just upset. We should have had a chance to at least be competitive, right? But no, we came out with no confidence, no verve, and got beat 70-36. I guess what I’m saying is this: I don’t think the inherent confidence and self-belief of today’s athletes is as high as you think it is. And, as coaches, if we do things that lower an athlete’s self-confidence on the court, we’re doing them a disservice. I think the playing time thing does just that.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like a coaching problem.
:-)
/ducks
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Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Vic obviously edged JO in effort and intelligence today.
I don’t think it’s an issue of how many minutes Vic got – he had a pretty damn good second half. It’s an issue of how few minutes JO got. Yes JO was bad in those three minutes, but why sacrifice our best chance to stop Royce’s unimpeded drives to the rim just because the guy starts slow? Give him a couple more shots at least before sitting him down for good.
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Not only has Frank bought himself more than one NIT year...
…but ask yourself if we can legitimately expect to hire a better coach.
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No one take offense to this, but
anyone who thinks we should fire Frank is either truly spoiled or a moron or both.
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I hope they are offended by it, anyone that is thinking Coach Martin should be fired,
is an idiot, a moron and spoiled.
The guy can coach. If you don’t like how he is coaching fine, that is your prerogative. But I’d rather have a coach that has admitted publicly that he needs to change than someone that isn’t that way.
I don’t know if it amusing or sad that a potential 5th place finish in the conference is something that brings this discussion out by people.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:03 AM CST up reply actions
I'm definately not saying fire him after 1 bad year but lets be reasonable here.
He just got a big raise last year, a new floor in Bramlage, and a $20m practice facility. Its year 4 and he still doesn’t have this program up and running smoothly.
He doesn't?
Frank Martin has taken K-State to an Elite Eight and twice has taken it to the round of 32. One season ended in an NIT bid. This season, which reasonably was a rebuilding season after losing K-State’s career-scoring leader and a pretty good post player in Curtis Kelly, it looks like he’s going to field an NCAA bubble team.
Are there areas where Frank can learn and improve? Yeah, for sure. I think at some point he has to stop running off so many players and at some point he has to start using a more regular substitution pattern. But just because it’s not always pretty doesn’t mean it hasn’t been pretty damn successful.
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While I love what Frank has done for the program,
isn’t there a qualitative difference between a program that is “successful” (which Frank’s teams have been) and program that is “running smoothly”? Whatever the answer to that question is, I think it’s a fair one to ask.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe, but it's a bottom-line world.
Frank has produced, for the most part. If he stops producing for a sustained period of time, then we can delve into that question. Until then, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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I think most people are.
Success buys you political capital. I would just like to see Frank building a more solid foundation than it appears he is laying right now, with the running off players, alienating some of his current potential stars, etc.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
That I agree with.
We’ll see in a year or two what consequences result from Frank’s decisions this year. Maybe we’ll find out that these guys bought in and we’ll have one helluva team. Or maybe two or three of them will have been run off, and the remainder will be glorified role players, and we’ll be in exactly the same place we are now.
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And if the latter happens,
we are going to start having more and more trouble attracting anything resembling upper-tier recruits.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Aren't we 50% on how McDonald's all americans have worked out for us?
And why can’t Coach Martin win with less than upper-tier recruits, it works for us in football so maybe we can do the same in basketball.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:06 AM CST up reply actions
Well first HCFM did not get a new floor or facilities...
K-State did. So let’s just put that to bed right now. Let the year play out and then go from there. We are very young, playing in a difficult conference. There is no need to pull the emergency brake at this juncture.
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 31, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
K-STATE got the facilities?
Must mean that they are not for the basketball team run by Frank Martin. Guess I missed that one… We are young because we have nobody from the 2008 class and 40% of the 2009 and 2010 classes are gone. I know not everyone works out but that seems a bit excessive to me. And again, I’m not saying fire him now, but if we don’t make a 68 team tourny this year, which is a legit possibility right now, I think it should raise some red flags.
Yeah because K-State did not build those facilities for HCFM...
they were built for the basketball teams…period. You made it sound like they were only because and for Martin.
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You have to be kidding with this kind of talk.
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
According to Rob Cassidy...
…Frank is going at the refs hard in the postgame over the McGruder no-call. I’m OK with this.
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Frank needs to spend time dissecting why they lost a 14 point lead.
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I'm sure they'll work on that in practice.
And I won’t argue that the refs are the reason they lost a 14-point lead. But that no-call on McGruder was inexcusable. It’s like the no-call on Myck Kabongo at the end of the Missouri/Texas game last night. You have to make those calls, even late in the game.
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Yeah that was the whip cream on horse caca...
for that lousy excuse of a second half of officiating. Angel dives for a loose ball and barely touches an ISU player who does not have possession and is whistled for a foul. Irving secures the ball before going out with 3 ISU players raking him across his arms, head, hands, you name it and not one call. I counted 3 distinct fouls on McGruder during the last 5 minutes including the glaring final one and not one whistle.
Eight of the fourteen points were made up by poor defense on K-State. The rest can be accredited to poor officiating on both ends of the court either by calling a ludicrous charge on Angel for his fifth or the ticky tack foul they called on Diaz that sent ISU to the line. The Big 12 crew, as we have all grown to know, was inconsistent at best, and derelict at worst this evening.
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
On the bright side,
our freshmen showed up in a big way and should improve from this experience.
Gip was a beast, Diaz is getting better by the minute, and Angel is already probably the second most important guy on the team after Rod.
It would be great if we could grow AND win, but would rather lose while grooming future teams than with junior and senior bums.
I now accept Jamar as what he is and stop expecting an all-Big 12 player, but the lack of success (relative to what we could have – being 19-2 with closing out games we were leading late) this season to me can be pegged on the lack of development of JO and Will. I expected much more out of both of them than what we’ve gotten.
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Good synopsis.
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I'd also add that we need to stop wasting scholarships on JUCO players that don't really contribute.
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Yup.
Jones is by far the best Juco guy Frank has brought in, yet he still refuses to play him.
Meanwhile guys who can create offense – Nick Russell and Devon Peterson – something this team desperately needs, are run off so their replacements can provide exactly zero minutes.
I am a huge Frank supporter, but this is the one thing he does I just can’t stand.
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This I agree with
Frank always talks about what a young team we have. Well, yeah, Frank, you run off one or two players every year, so it’s kind of hard to have a bunch of seniors.
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Dominique Sutton is having a nice season with North Carolina Central by the way.
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by Catbacker98 on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that needs to change. Hopefully, it will.
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Could be that the Juco guys are practice fodder.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:07 AM CST up reply actions
Will needs to come off the bench now
Start Tay and Angel
by ksu&warpaint on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess we'll now see if anyone on this team, "has got a little Jacob Pullen in 'em."
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 PM CST reply actions
Great call.
I think Angel does. He just needs to stay on the floor.
You know who also might? Big Gip. Clutch shots against WVU and tonight, just didn’t get the ball in the key final possessions.
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Don't think so.
It has been a lack all season.
Not even sure the Alabama, LBS and Missouri games had that one go to guy in them.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:09 AM CST up reply actions
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Really, what the hell? I check the score at intermission, we’re up 10 with 10 to play. What the fuck happened?
Oh, and I saw someone up there talking about Franks job status. First of all, let me give you a heartfelt FUCK YOU. You have no idea what you’re talking about. If you won’t even put in the time to learn how to spell your AD’s name right, why should we take any argument you could possibly make regarding HCFM’s job status seriously? Second, go read the last post game. Do your fucking homework before you come in here with your extremist bullshit. The guy has more than earned the right to coach this team for the foreseeable future. You might not agree with his methods, but until he outright fails at coaching, or fails at represenrting the university, he’s our coach. He’s done neither. Period.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Look, CBE, you and I may disagree on how Frank handles situations, and I can live with that.
But I I won’t sit here idly while someone thinks it’s prudent to issue the ultimatum of “NCAA or Bust”. It just isn’t right. That’s exactly the kind of negative sentiment I see growing from people that haven’t played the game at this level, haven’t coached the game, and just want to say something to sound like they know what they’re talking about. I respect you – you coach. I’ve both coached the game and played at this level. Frank is a good coach. I want to keep Frank here. We all should. But these negative sentiments get whipped into a fervor, and that’s how coaches get run off. I won’t let that happen.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I just don't think an f-bomb laced rant at those who disagree is the best tack to take.
I fully understand how emotional people get about the greatest game ever invented. I get that way too. But big-time college athletics is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately?-type of game now, for better or worse. That means that when a coach makes some questionable decisions (which Frank has done), and the losses pile up somewhat (which is happening), the naysayers will have their day. To a certain extent, I’ve been one of them, as I just don’t see the logic behind some of his moves at all. But I don’t think he deserves to lose his job, or to even have the threat of that at this point. Now, if we go completely in the tank, and finish off our last nine conference games at 2-7 or 1-8 or something, then we might need to reevaluate that. But for now, I agree with you that talk questioning Frank’s job security is without merit.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
I would respectfully point out that this
…an f-bomb laced rant at those who disagree…
is often your response to things…
/justsayin
I have no interest in starting a fight. Like I said, I respect CBE, he's worn the shoes.
And I’ll try to keep my tirades to a minimum. But there is no place, no excuse for ultimating HCFMs job right now. I agree…if we manage to finish the conf slate at say 6-12, or 5-13, we can have that conversation then. But this team needs SUPPORT, not skepticism behind what is truly warranted.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I wasn't trying to either
just merely trying to point out that CBE was hurting his own argument.
And to your post below, I made the same mistake a while back in the Miami game thread, when I came on after the game and saw all the negative comments. I, fortunately, did not use profane language, but I came across as preachy and was likewise castigated.
Fair enough, consider me sufficiently castigated.
Had a crappy day at work to boot. You’ll always know how I feel about a situation with the basketball team, I guarantee it. And It’s still a touchy subject with me after the last post-game commentary
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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That is not even close to true.
I don’t drop f-bomb laced rants.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Without trying to look them up now or really wanting to
I will say I believe you have. If you don’t think so, that’s fine, but since I believe you have then in my mind saying something like that hurts your argument.
Otherwise, I agreed with your take, just as I agree with BigE's
basic points in his rant.
This is a complicated issue, and not one that I think we will ever come to a consensus on
I can say, categorically, that I do not drop f-bomb laced rants.
That is not to say that I never drop a rant, nor that I never use swears, just that I don’t combine the two in that way.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Well, apparently I do, so I've got that niche filled.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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LOL
I probably took the initial rant a bit personally, since I’m one who has been somewhat critical of Frank.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:00 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, it wasn't at you at all. Our discussion on Sunday was the reason I felt I needed to clarify between a debate and lunacy.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Youre probably right. Tired, shocked we lost, and I see someone saying we're spending too much money for the results were getting.
There is one thing, though; there is a difference between me disagreeing with another valid point of view, and me pointing out when someone is just talking from their hind-parts. I’ll have an intelligent conversation over debate or disagreement. But the point of view I’m referencing is just uneducated and has no business being furthered in any forum, on this blog or elsewhere.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Are we having fun yet?
And you’re right, I wasn’t able to find any reespectacle programs that go 12 deep. Furthermore, I’ll buy the consistent minutes breeds consistency theory, especially in the case of JO and Shane. I do think they both need time to “warm up” per se, and RA eliablre to do some boneheaded things untile they’re really in the flow and dynamic of the game. Can’t say I’m a microwave, either…there’s times I won’t do anything productive until five minutes have gone by.
But then again, I’m one of the best players on the floor, so I’m allowed that kind of latitude ;)
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Not that this is a complete "apples to apples" comparison, but
when I was working as an assistant coach, at a 3A private school Texas powerhouse back in the early 00s, we played 10 guys regular minutes. That’s as deep as I’ve ever seen a good team at high school or above go. And we did it simply because we played so fast that we needed five guys on the bench who could literally do a hockey-style “line-shift”-type of thing. Our starters would go balls-to-the-wall for 4 minutes or so, sit for 2:00 or so, and then go back in for the last 2:00-2:30 of the quarter. Of course, when we had foul trouble, we’d adjust things a bit, but on the whole, we ended up with five guys playing about 22-25 minutes/game (out of 32) and another five that played from 8-12 minutes. And we only did that for one season, when we had the “horses” to make it work.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
I can see that.
That’s typically the way I would expect a 10 deep team to operate.
I really don’t think we know who the best nine are on this team. I couldn’t tell you with any certainty, and I’ve watched all but the first 30 minutes of the UT game, and this game tonight. We’ve got too many interchangeable parts past the top 6 or 7.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I think that's when a coach just needs to make a decision.
In the interests of building a chemistry between the 8-9 guys who know that they are going to see the floor for X number of minutes each night.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
My overwhelming question is why are we suiting 16 players?
What are Watson and Omari doing other than taking up space on the bench?
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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And, for me, our 8-9 guys would be:
G=Angel (30 mpg, depending upon foul trouble)
G=Will (30 mpg)
F=Rod (30 mpg)
F=Jamar (30 mpg)
C=Gip (25 mpg)
Bench:
1st G = Tay (15-20 mpg)
1st F/C = JO (15-20 mpg)
8th man = Shane (15-20 mpg)
9th man = Adrian (~10 mpg)
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
So Angel gets 15 mpg because he likes bumping people at 40 ft, and Jeremy Jones gets the remaining 15 minutes? ;)
I agree, but you can’t deny that Vic plays with heart – something this team needs – and Jeremy Jones, when healthy, is a viable option at guard. How do you leave them on the bench for Diaz or Shane? And that’s why you’ve got 11 players right now, methinks.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Can we start looking at trades for cash considerations?
I never thought I’d say this, but if we had worse players, the lineup would be easier to settle on.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I think Diaz's upside gives him the nod.
Same for Shane over JJ. As for Vic’s “heart”, I’d like to see it in MUCH shorter bursts, just to give the guys a jumpstart. Playing him 20+ minutes is asking too much of a guy that’s little more than Hrbec in short pants. (That’s not meant as an insult to either guy. I like them both, they’ve just got more heart than talent.)
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see everyone else play with more of it, so we didn't have to see it in any burst, save extreme foul trouble.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I'm working on a post about that.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:13 AM CST up reply actions
I don't disagree with you at all.
No one knows what happened … since I could not see the game, all I could tell is we lost the lead. Before when the Cats have lost leads this year, it has been because the defense was sloppy and the offense was stagnant so I would suspect the same here.
As I’ve stated before this year, I don’t think I would want to coach a D1 program with the amount of goofy pressure that is put on you. I like Coach Martin especially the way he is able to change as needed. I have no idea about his substitution patterns nor why he is playing certain guys for certain minutes, and yes I would like to know but so far none of the media are thinking these are good questions to ask.
I’ve not coached except for a developmental team and right now I think Coach Martin is a good fit for K-State, that might change in a year or 2 but nothing I’ve seen since he’s started has caused me to think less of him as a coach at this point. I’d play for him if I was in college.
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by Anon_the_younger on Feb 1, 2012 5:23 AM CST up reply actions
On a positive note, I see Angel and Will had a 10:2 AST/TO ratio tonight. That's good.
I also see Angel did a good job of increasing his nearly 6 fouls per 40 minutes. That’s bad.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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He really makes some questionable decisions that cost him in that department.
Comes with the territory, I suppose. Just glad to see that he is at least starting to get some consistent playing time now. (Knocks on wood, hoping we don’t see him for only 3 minutes next game.)
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
Dumb aggressiveness?
Plays aggressively in spots or situations that the context doesn’t warrant the aggressiveness.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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That's a great way to put it.
I have a very freshman-heavy team this season, and I find myself constantly shaking my head going, “WHY would you do THAT when you already have 2 fouls and there’s only 0:15 left in the half?” I’m sure Frank and his assistants are experiencing plenty of those moments with Angel right now as well.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
Mystery of the night:
How does Jamar have only 1 foul, shoot 4-6 from the floor, score 11 points, get 2 steals, and grab 3 rebounds, and only have 18 minutes of court time?
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:14 AM CST reply actions
Did he tweak something / injury? Only guess I can possibly muster if productive with no foul trouble...
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I missed a large segment of the game, so I'm not sure.
My junior high guys were playing in the regional semifinals tonight, so I missed a lot of the game.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Feb 1, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
Word is that both he and JO had the case of the flu...
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