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Iowa State preview: What we need from Angel

In case you couldn't tell before Big 12 play started, it's become abundantly clear that Angel Rodriguez is Kansas State's best point guard. The gap between him and Will Spradling gets considerably larger when you factor in potential.

Even when Will is shooting well (I have vague recollections of this) Angel's game just has so many more dimensions. He's quicker, sees the floor better (only Shane Southwell has more assists per minutes played), plays better defense, and just generally handles the ball better.

Will is obviously better at taking charges, largely because he's incapable of preventing opponents from getting to the rim in any other way, and he's probably the more intelligent player. That brings us to the main problem with Angel this season, and how much of it we can forgive as "freshman mistakes."

Check the jump for my thoughts on what Angel needs to improve upon, and what frustrating aspects of his game we'll probably just have to deal with for at least the rest of the season. Also, an Iowa State preview.

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One thing that I think the coaches understand is that you don't really want to slow down a guy like Angel or Denis Clemente. Sure, this will result in some stupid turnovers, offensive fouls, and getting stuck in the air on a drive, but the layups and transition baskets you get from that speed are well worth it.

You can't have one thing without the other, and you just have to hope that over time Angel will make his own adjustments based on what works and what doesn't. Along the same lines, it's dangerous to tell him to tone down the aggressiveness defensively, but you'd like to think he'll cut down on stupid fouls (like the ones going for a steal more than 30 feet away from the basket) over time.

So far this season, Angel is averaging 2.1 turnovers in just 18 minutes per contest. Obviously, that's not good.

We're going to see an offensive foul here and there, or maybe a turnover on a tricky pass on that just misses being an easy layup. These kinds of mistakes are going to happen for any good, aggressive scoring point guard.

To take a slight diversion, I want to address that last point. Maybe I'm old school, but I'd love to see a pass-first point guard like UNC's Kendall Marshall.

He's a guy that can and will shoot when open (43% FG) but primarily is looking to find his teammates in transition or off the dribble-drive. Sadly, these types of players are few and far between these days, and if you really want to know why, just go to an AAU tournament some time next summer.

Anyway, Angel's never going to be that guy, and honestly this K-State team has so few offensive weapons that we really need his scoring mentality. Still, he could definitely learn to pass a little more and shoot dumb shots a little less.

There's no reason for him to be trying to shoot over defenders from the perimeter before the shot clock gets to 10, and it often seems like he doesn't even look to pass when he penetrates until it's clear that he has no lane to the basket. The most egregious example of this from the OU game was on one drive where he literally put his head down and carried the ball against his hip for a couple steps, which seems like something no 5-foot-11 point guard should ever do.

At times I feel like the only thing Angel has done more than turn the ball over this season is foul, and he absolutely must find a way to cut down on the stupid fouls without limiting his effectiveness as a defender.

I like his aggressiveness and ability to make plays such as the Reggie Miller-esque steal and 3-pointer against OU, but the foul that came after that was absolutely cringeworthy.

For what it's worth, though I'm generally against Frank's schizophrenic substitution patterns, I think benching Angel for freshman mistakes is one of the best ways for him to learn. But that's true only if we're talking about making him sit for a few minutes, not the majority of a game.

That's probably more than enough of my thoughts, and I'd be interested to hear what everyone else thinks about the guy who is pretty clearly KSU's point guard of the future.

***

It's easy to be terrified of tonight's game at Iowa State, considering the history of Hilton Magic and what both teams did on Saturday, not to mention the recent history of KSU-ISU. I'm a little nervous myself.

But I'm going to try to be cautiously optimistic, since it seems K-State matches up much better against the Cyclones than it did against the Sooners.

That starts on the perimeter, where Scott Christopherson at least offers a guard who Will Spradling can defend without becoming a complete defensive liability. If Christopherson gets hot, look out, but he won't be consistently embarrassing Will off the dribble or throwing down alley-oops over his head.

I'm more worried about ISU's Melvin Ejim and Chris Royce White. The two athletic forwards are extremely versatile, and White is as good as anybody at making you pay if you leave your man to come help defend him.

That's a big reason why the Cyclones are the only team in the league to make more than 8 3-pointers per game, and they've got two sharpshooters off the bench in Anthony Booker and Tyrus McGee who don't do much else.

In an ideal world, Thomas Gipson, Jordan Henriquez and maybe even Adrian Diaz would use their size advantage and attack those two guys whenever possible. But we haven't seen a lot of evidence this season to support the possibility of that happening.

It's pretty obvious Iowa State is going to come out playing hard and have a lot of support from the crowd, so it will be absolutely crucial for K-State to shoot a good percentage early and take care of the basketball to prevent the Cyclones from pulling away. If that happens, I think the Wildcats have a good shot at .....pulling the upset. Yep, I said it.

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I didn't understand the excitement about Angel until the Hawaii tournament.

Now I get it, and I’m excited too, but just like with Denis, the aggressiveness bothers me.

As for the game tonight, I’m expecting a loss, and possibly an embarrassing one, but I wouldn’t be surprised by a win. As others have stated, this is a classic let down game for ISU, and there is a reasonable expectation the Cats will come out hungry. I doubt the Cats can maintain their intensity for a whole game, but I like their chances if they get an early lead or can keep it close.

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by Sean T on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

The name I've heard/read thrown around for Angel is "bulldog".

And I think it’s pretty perfect. He’s tenacious on both ends of the court.

He’s not even close to as fast as Denis. To me, he actually is more comparable to Jake. He’s tough as nails, can get to the hoop, and hopefully will develop Jake’s shooting ability. That’s not quite there. Once Angel can consistently knock down threes, sky is the limit.

I too feel cautiously optimistic tonight. A lot will depend on Jamar’s ability to defend Royce White without getting in foul trouble. He’ll only be able to do so if JO offers great help D and is a force by the rim.

But Will is due to hit some shots. And if he doesn’t, well I think it’s time for Frank to think long and hard about how many minutes he’s getting. We’re halfway through conference play after tonight. This would no longer be a slump – it would be a pretty poor season. I don’t know what’s going on with Shane, but he should be getting a chance if our other guards aren’t giving us what we need.

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by yeahboozin on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

Some thoughts on Angel...

Freshman. Yes, he’s going to make mistakes, and they’re usually of the “pressing” or “anxious” type. His mistakes are errors of commission rather than omission, which as a coach, you can live with a little more.

Way too foul-happy. He currently averages 5.96 fouls per 40 minutes…needless to say, waaaaay to high for someone you might want to run the game through. And most are needless fouls. Double hand-check, steal gambles at 30 feet, etc. This, IMO, is the place he MUST improve on first and foremost. He does us no good if he’s on the bench.

AST / TO ratio is still positive, even considering his TO “troubles”. Not elite, of course, but he does bring more positive to the table than negative, from a net perspective in handling the ball.

He isn’t as fast end to end with the ball as Denis. He does have guts and fortitude. I could be wrong, but I don’t think he’ll ever develop the strength that Jake had by the time he graduated, meaning it will be easier to knock Angel off-course on drives, cuts, etc. I actually think he already has Jake’s shooting ability from an accuracy standpoint – he needs to learn to take better shots. What he does have that I have seen in the past couple of games is an amazing first step in halfcourt. Very few teams have a defender that can stay in front of him on the perimeter. He has a knack for getting around the primary defender, so if he ever learns the drive-and-dish (which he better, if he wants to be a PG), he’ll be lethal with Diaz, Upshaw, etc. patrolling the paint.

He also has very good full-court defense anticipation, good enough that I would like to see us run a fullcourt zone with a run-and-jump. Force the ball to the sideline with front man (get the ball running), and jump the ball with a second defender. Angel could play center field on this zone, and ballhawk the pass out of the trap/jump. This play has to have impeccable rotation by the fourth player (weakside jump man), but I’ve seen it work very well.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i cant take this

i know were young and were going to make mistakes, but i cant take this roller coaster bullshit basketball. why cant we just play to our potential and establish ourselves as an elite team like back in the day? it is so frustrating to watch this team play anymore. I’m not giving up in the least bit and I never will, I’ll love my cats till the day I die.

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by motown wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 5:02 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

That's the problem

We K-State fans expected as soon as we started having success again that we would quickly reestablish ourself as a power. When you fall off the cliff like we did, it simply doesn’t happen just like that. It’s a different era entirely, and to expect it just happen is ridiculus. Still it is frustrating.

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by MeatGeek on Jan 31, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

As hard as it is to watch sometimes, I really do enjoy watching us mature in all sports. I cant wait for the time when everything starts clicking, and going our way. I understand it won’t be soon, but it will definitely be worth the wait.

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by motown wildcat on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

As a heads up.

It’s Royce White, not Chris.

by CYphilis- on Jan 31, 2012 6:41 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

I knew that

I honestly have no idea why I wrote Chris. Thanks for the correction, and good game tonight. It’s amazing how exciting every KSU-ISU game has been the last three years or so.

by Ahearn Alley on Jan 31, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

And I spelled Ejim wrong originally

FAIL. I hope I didn’t provide any crucial motivation for the ’Clones tonight.

by Ahearn Alley on Jan 31, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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