Open Game Thread: K-State vs. Oklahoma
by TB on Jan 28, 2012 5:00 PM CST
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PrintOklahoma Sooners at Kansas St. Wildcats, Jan 28, 2012 6:00 PM CST
Who: K-State vs. Oklahoma
When: January 28, 2012 | 6:00 p.m.
Where: Manhattan, Kan. | Bramlage Coliseum (12,528)
Media: Fox Sports Midwest, ESPN3 | 1350 KMAN
K-State looks to avenge its loss in Norman to the Oklahoma Sooners as it welcomes back former K-State basketball players, including OU coaches Lon Kruger and Steve Henson, for Legends Weekend. Goal number one is to keep Romero Osby from hitting 123 percent of his shots from the field.
Go Cats!
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After today's games
League Standings:
W-L Team
7-1 KU
6-2 Baylor
6-2 MU
5-3 ISU
4-3 K-State
3-5 Texas
3-5 OSU
3-5 aTm
2-5 OU
0-8 TXT
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 5:12 PM CST reply actions
That OU loss is starting to look worse and worse
But at least there is a chance for retribution this year.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
The loss to OU won't be that bad.
TWO losses to OU? That would be perilous.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
I have a bad feeling this is going to be a repeat of CU last year
Cats were good against everyone else last year in conference, but CU had their number.
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Just watched Jack White build a guitar out of a warped board, a coke bottle, a nylon cord and an old copper-winding.
Freaking RAD.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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live or a show?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Show. Beginning to "May Get Loud" on VH1 Classic.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Here's what I was doing yesterday afternoon...
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Image fail again. :(
I’m totally effing this up.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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There. Go look yourself.
/stupidHTMLoniPad
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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standing in snow. That doesn't look that exciting.
/troll hard or go home
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
OK, fair enough.
/canttakemegaradwinterxgamesphotosofmyself
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Helmet mount for camera ...
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
If found those rather narcissistic, even for me.
Why would anyone want to see me snowboarding? Eating a cheeseburger, maybe…
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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the helmet mount would show the scenery and capture the 'aw, crap' as you wipe out.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing captures AW CRAP like being directly involved in the AW CRAP.
But it was definitely the best day of the year on the mountain.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Nice! Beaver Creek!
Family lives there in Avon.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
Because of contractual obligations, we must leave this event for a differeent one.
/finally works in K-State’s favor.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:00 PM CST reply actions
I'm actually shocked at that one ...
nobody switches away when the Rice and Houston ladies are throwing down.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Is Kruger's jersey retired? If so I think it should be put in storage until he's done coaching at OU.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:01 PM CST reply actions
I hate that a Kstate great like him now coaches for a trashy school like OU though
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
I'm a fan of his having no recognition by K-State until he no longer coaches in the confernce.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Find the difference in these pictures ...
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 6:09 PM CST reply actions
Did some one say mole?
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
the same play happend at OU and they didn't call a foul there either...ridiculous
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
That's optional.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Angels being very aggressive already. I like it.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Sort of like another guard K-State had?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
is the arm wrap new for Will?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM CST reply actions
Wonder why I'm noticing it tonight.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think he wears it every night, but I have seen him wearing it off-and-on all season.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
10-20 minutes of good play and I'd be happy.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
JO's at an A right now, can only go down...
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Pretty happy with the first four minutes.
Had some lack of attack that possession Angel forced the jumper, but all else has been solid.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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The 2nd 4 minutes is nothing to write home about.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
This is like a B1G game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:25 PM CST reply actions
I was looking at the points.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he needs to play smarter
But I really like the fire
AR bringing it.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:26 PM CST reply actions
Good, solid finish by McGruder, too. We miss out on way too many of those.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
He did what I wish JamSam would do.
He knew he was going to get hit; he went and made the bucket instead of worrying about the contact.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Damn OU gonna shoot 60% again?
They suck against everyone else but can’t miss against us.
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Neck beard with the soul patch. Dude just shave already.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:29 PM CST reply actions
I really like where our team is headed with Angel, GIP, and Diaz.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Yes.
And the sophomores and juniors and seniors are helping them to get better.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
And a 10' jumper for 2.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Why wouldn't he?
/youknowJamarlikeIknowJamar
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Because he can make one occassionally.
And the coaches don’t think it is a bad shot for him.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Now he's trying too hard.
He just needs to relax and it will happen.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
No conviction on offense. We're not standing around, but very little energy or precision.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
There is no way OU should be ahead ... if K-State was playing like they did against MU.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 6:47 PM CST reply actions
Need someone to step up. Need Angel back
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 6:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Good luck guys.
Hopefully you guys can get a win since ours didn’t show up today.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
That was rough. I-State tough in Ames, though.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Thanks
ISU is nothing to sneeze about this season apparently
I'd describe them as feisty today.
All the loose balls went to them.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
So fill me in...
Started hot then went into our 10 minute scoring drought?
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
Gotta admit...
that was a nice “D” by OU.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
Our offense
is either a turnover or a contested shot with no time left on the shot clock. Better passing guys! Get it inside.
Too much dribbling. No passing.
Offense bogs down with Will at point.
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 6:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trying to figure out how this OU team sucks against everyone else.
Because they really are bringing a good effort tonight. Again.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 6:54 PM CST reply actions
As someone said earlier
OU is this year’s version of CU
Possibly...
But I really didn’t like the effort in the first half…
but it's our lack of effort and D causing it
there is nothing special they are doing.
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Idk...
I think Steven Pledger having 18 points might have something to do with it…
If you can't guard him then deny him the ball
we got burnt on D too many times and he is making shots but not well contested shots
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Totally different teams, but still a matchup problem.
We can’t match up with Pledger. OU has enough horses to rebound with us when they bring the effort.
If Will is going to continue to play like this, we are fucked.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
This game does not have a good vibe to it right now
hopefully something changes after halftime
Our offense was pathetic. No clue what we were doing against the zone, no one cutting hard.
Our defense wasn’t necessarily the problem, it was our listless attitude on the offensive end.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Dammutt!
This really is a must win game if we want to compete for 4th in conference, because after today I have doubts about our ability to go to Ames and win.
I have serious doubts about getting the "W" in Ames
after seeing our lack of effort in the first half here…
Angel needs to stay out of foul trouble
when he left the offense looked dumbfounded. Really disappointed that Rod didn’t get more touches.
Rod touched it plenty.
With a guy in his face guarding the shit out of him.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Angel creating offense is going to win this game for us, or we're probably not getting it done.
It would help if Will didn’t completely, utterly suck tonight.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
100 percent agree
Angel needs to play smart. As for Will, are we sure he doesn’t have a twin?
Yes, we're not getting the zone out of position.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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This team is just too young to play consistently
up one week and down the next. It wouldn’t surprise me to lose this and win in Ames with a great effort. When you throw the ball away and give up a 3 to end the half you don’t win very often.
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Halftime Grades:
Angel: B. needs to stay out of foul trouble.
Will: D. Getting owned on both ends.
Rod: B. Find the openings more often.
GIP: ? Where did he go?
Jamar: C+. Up and down so far.
Tay: D. Re: Will Spradling.
JO: B+. He’s trying, just need to be a better presence on D.
Vic: B. doing what’s asked of him, again.
Paradox: C. Not very assertive.
Diaz: C.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Sounds good to me
Although I think Will get’s an F or D-
Wow.
What the fuck is Frank doing in practice?
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 7:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
To be fair
Right now, I don’t see much effort.
This goes beyond X's and O's, skills, abilities, or anything physical.
I’m seriously questioning this team’s heart right now. No passion. No conviction. No fire. There isn’t a Wildcat on the floor that looks like they want to play basketball today.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
The same shit we saw when they pissed the Baylor game away twice, and then get smoked at OU
It’s a damned good thing the Cats don’t have to play Kruger every game, otherwise Martin should be fired.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
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I haven't watched you guys enough this year but McGruder's clearly your best player.
Does he have the bravado that Pullen had? I’ve never noticed it when watching. Pullen was a badass on the court, he knew it and acted like it. Has anyone stepped into that role?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Nope, not even close
Rod’s a terrific second fiddle, and a darned good offensive player, but he doesn’t have the personality to be the leader.
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He doesn't have the skill set that Pullen had with the ball in his hands. Not even close.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I'm not saying he can do what Pullen did.
But Pullen did a good job of getting Frank’s emotions to the other players. Seems like that is missing often for you guys this year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I'll say it, Martin's a below-average game day coach.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
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Kruger won't sit him for long...
he can’t afford to.
I agree ... but every second he sits is big for us.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
That's true...
It is abundantly clear at this point that we don’t have anyone who can guard him…
Like I said, this has the feeling of the CU games last year
Martin’s clearly outclassed by Boyle and Kruger (and Self, but so is most everyone else).
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
I disagree about Boyle.
Not to digress, but CU was a habitual underachiever while Higgins and Burks were there. Saw them play a number of times. CU was much better than their records ever indicated.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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I agree. We couldn't handle those two players when they played well.
And they played well 3 times against us. Just couldn’t match up.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
I credit Boyle for using those two to beat the Cats 3 times
I credit Kruger for abusing the Cats up and down the court with Pledger now, and the two bigs earlier.
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Is this a sign of life or desperation gasp?
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 7:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The most athletic play I've seen Vic make.
Good for him.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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We've actually played OK for the last three minutes.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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still? Or have we regressed?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Still, save that three OREB possession OU just had.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
That's been my biggest bitch about the losses
Yeah, sometimes you just can’t shoot, but there is never an excuse for playing bad D.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
Just saw why we didn't have McGruder on Pledger until now ...
Because it leaves a rebounding mismatch somewhere else. It’s a desperation move.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:32 PM CST reply actions
Need McGruder to pick on Pledger
And force his 4th foul. How long does Angel sit? And why do the other four players stop moving when Will runs point?
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Didn't Will make both free throws?
Scoreboard doesn’t reflect it…
If you mean the several rebounds and not making the shots ... that was bad.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
So it was a travel on Irving, but not just now on Osby. ok.
/neitherwasatravel
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Why doesn't he go that strong all the time?
Good Move!
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
That was a bogus block call.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions
I'm actually tired of all the block/charge calls. That should have been a no-call.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
Then thats what he needs to do. Get to the charity stripe.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
Twitter - @BigE_29er
That was not a good foul, Angel.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:49 PM CST reply actions
number 2 team in the country, we win by double digits.
team in 9th place in the league, we can’t put away.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:50 PM CST reply actions
I've been watching, but the kids are asleep.
I don’t care if Angel has four. Will is unconsciously awful.
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Everytime I start paying attention to this game, we do very bad in fundamental areas.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions
Who has been guarding Pledger tonight?
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If someone says Will, I'm going to lose it.
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Tay tried too.
He’s just doing’ everybody up tonight.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Except McGruder. Pledger's only scored broken-court baskets with Rod on him.
But it’s not something we ever wanted to have to do.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
We had Will on him until we got desperate and put McGruder on him.
McGruder has done well, but it causes a bad matchup with Clark. Still, that’s all we got.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
What the shit is going on here?
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bad fundamentals.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
I can't believe this.
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Oklahoma sucks. What is our problem?
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Martin has been completely schooled. This is fucking pathetic.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
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No he hasn't, from what I've seen.
They went to a simple 3-2, and we can’t hit a shot.
Someone get Will a really ugly chick so we can get on with the season. This is ridiculous.
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by Panjandrum on Jan 28, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We zombie'd our way through the first 22 minutes, we have no reliable outside shooting, we're not playing offense with any conviction, we can't get back on defense quickly enough to match up...
Want me to keep going?
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Like I said, Martin has been completely schooled. Every bit of that goes back to pathetic coaching.
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You can only coach so much, it is up to the players to want to win and do what it takes to win.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm the opposite of SeanT I don't think it is the coaching.
If you watch the game without sound, there are times when the body language is very bad for the K-State players.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
That guy is Rodney, but he's strangely not getting the ball at all.
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Terrible collective game at PG is mainly where we are killing ourselves ...
along with not being able to match up with Pledger with our backcourt players.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
No Jones. Not that he shoots the three well
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This isn't an upset.
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Yes it is.
Unranked team beating a ranked team is an upset.
K-State just is not doing well in wanting to win this year.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
OU is the better team tonight.
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at times.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't figure getting swept by OU
In my conference predictions
by rjd27 on Jan 28, 2012 7:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good God, OU has been grabby tonight.
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wtf?!?
What is going on?
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
by BlackCats on Jan 28, 2012 7:59 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
And I haven't read the thread, but if anyone said a nice word about Kruger, you're getting warned.
He’s a traitor. And the same goes for Henson.
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In all the talking the announcers have done about him, they never say WHY he
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Dammit
In all the talking the announcers have done about him, they never say WHY he’s been coach at so many schools for so few years at each. It seems to me he’s either a mercenary or a whore.
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I'm not concerned as to the why. He did. End of story.
The fact that his name is on a banner is disgusting to me.
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IMHO the banners needs to be taken down until he's not coaching in conference again.
Or needs to be lost.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh my God, Will killed a girl and buried her in his backyard.
He is fucking cursed.
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I want to throw up.
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I really don't think I can stomach losing to these clowns at HOME.
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Our PG play tonight was horrific.
Sprads and Irving are terrible and Angel mixed in decent plays with a bunch of dumb ones.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Please, baby Jesus, don't let us lose this game.
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I double that prayer.
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by BlackCats on Jan 28, 2012 8:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I. Can't. Whatever. I'm. Pfffft.
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Pledger, you suck at life.
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What a putrid performance...
Gonna have to grind this one out…
Wasted a lot of time for two there.
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If we lose this, I'm not optimistic about the rest of our road games.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:07 PM CST reply actions
WHY DID YOU NOT CALL A TIMEOUT YOU MORON
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Goddamned pathetic.
Call a fucking time out!
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And the refs swallow the whistle in the last 30 seconds.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:08 PM CST reply actions
OU's actually good at FT shooting
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Frank looks like he's on lithum.
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I am not happy. This is a horrible loss. Nothing good to take from it.
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The only thing to take from this game is that we aren't playing as well as earlier in the year.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
That's on Will. He can't be a black hole of production.
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Yeah, he's a GOOD gameday coach.
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That was smart.
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Why was JO touching the ball?
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Oh my God, did we just do that? We actually just allowed OU to foul JO.
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Miss, rebound, three, go home.
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Do coaches ever donate their checks for a particularly pathetic performance?
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That's just about enough of the anti-Martin rhetoric.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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From what I saw, it's not really on Martin. There hasn't been a glaring coaching issue.
Angel fouled too much, and Will has been atrocious.
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We have to score more than 60 points in a game. This isn't the B1G. We won't win with 60 on the board.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Here's the math ...
Terrible collective PG play
+
KSU backcourt players can’t guard Pledger
+
not dominating the boards
=
loss
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yup. We didn't have a 1 or 2 that played worth a shit.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Angel was good at times, but those goddamned careless turnovers killed them.
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= didn't play worth a shit.
There’s more than putting the ball in the basket as a 1. His D was terrible, and was a black hole on offense. The exact opposite of what you want from a 1.
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I don't even know who he was guarding.
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Doesn't matter. 5 fouls, and they were steal gambles, charges, hand checks, or blocking fouls 25 feet from the bucket.
Dude was completely out of control tonight.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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"Dude was completely out of control tonight." - amen
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This is the 4th time in the last 8 games the Cats were not prepared to win
They completely crapped themselves at KU, played great against MU, pissed away the game (3 times) against Baylor, got crushed at a crappy Oklahoma team, barely beat UT because of awful defense, won ugly at OSU, and then crushed one of the worst big boy teams in the country, then they had no answer for a two man team at home.
Martin’s going to blame his players again, and I’ve had enough of his excuses. I want him to man up and take the blame himself.
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It is not the coaches that are causing the issues.
There is an issue with execution with the team this year.
Earlier the team was executing and winning, now they are sloppy and doing things they shouldn’t. The coaches can try to correct this but ultimately the players have to take responsibility to do better.
Why do you think VO is playing, because he is doing something right that others are not doing.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
If I was coaching, I'd almost be to the point of putting in the younger guys to gain experience for next year.
And then putting the JR’s and SR’s when the young guys were tired.
Probably not the ideal solution.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, the season isn't over yet. I'm still expecting an NCAA berth.
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I think we've got work to do for that to happen. This one hurt.
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I very much agree, but I've not given up hope yet.
There is talent and good coaching on this team, and I will be disappointed if they miss the tourney.
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I hope you guys make it.
However, two losses to OU will definitely be a weight around your neck if you end up around the bubble.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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As will throwing away a big home win against top-10 Baylor
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I can't see a way this team wins at Iowa State
Just make the goddamned tournament.
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Someone punch Kruger in the face. At least someone throw a Coke at him.
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I need this to wear off.
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It's taking everything in me to not start throwing things.
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Use the soft toys.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I'mma go drink some Pine-Sol now.
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That's not a bad idea. Irving's better with his benching.
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Man its hard to stomach
getting swept by OU…and with Kruger as their coach I can only see them getting better…I hope we don’t meet them in the conference tournament…
Well...back to the old drawing board...
Hope we rebound in Ames but I’m not counting on it…maybe we will be Cyclone’s hangover loss…after getting swept by a very mediocre OU team I’m thinking the NIT might be about what this team deserves…hope I’m wrong. Have a good evening everyone.
Post game later tonight. We're going to delve into some issues with this team.
Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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Look at turnovers for starters and subs.
I’m curious as to what it will show … over multiple games.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Timid
Are our guys so timid that they’re scared they’re going to get yanked if they make a mistake? Or get yelled at and sit out rest of the half like Gip? I’m wondering if that has a little to do with our play and why we can’t execute. Players make mistakes, but sometimes you gotta let em play.
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Yes.
This one’s on Frank, and someone (ADJC maybe?) needs to speak very directly to him about it.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 28, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
This one sucks. I'm not getting over this one well.
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Where was Soutwell btw? Hurt?
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He was in for a little, but I don't remember him doing anything worthwhile.
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Seeing Collin and rest of the boys at the half was the highlight.
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He tries hard but makes mistakes on defense.
Not as many mistakes on offense but still some.
I would like to see more playing time for him because he brings energy to the floor and goes 110%
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Not seeing him made me sad
He can’t be any worse than what we’ve seen combined out of Angel and Will, sadly. I’m wonder if he’s still hurt.
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Spradling is one of our only two point guards ...
So he has to play because only Angel and him can handle the position for extended periods. (I’m being gentle to Will’s tools as a PG here)
We really just need Will to snap out of it. McGruder has the hook up from earlier this year … way past time for the slumpbuster. And if it’s Will’s first, then so be it.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Final thought...
This is still a young team that’s growing. I don’t have a problem with Frank pulling Gipson (who is a liability defensively), or not playing Shane in an evening where we desperately needed scoring from the guard position, which he can’t really do all that well.
This game came down to two things, IMO: defense on Pledger and point guard play. And PG play was the biggest problem.
Look, we lost to Baylor because we didn’t have anyone who could cover Jackson, and we lost to OU twice because we don’t have anyone from the guard position to cover Pledger. Despite my ranting tonight, I don’t really have a problem with Will, but the bottom line is if he isn’t hitting shots, he’s worth next to nothing on the floor. He’s not fast, he’s an average passer, he’s an average ball handler, and he gets burned time and again by faster players because he doesn’t move very well, laterally. It’s absolutely essential that Rodriguez continues to improve, but it’s going to take a year or so before he becomes the kind of guy you can count on every night.
The positive thing about tonight is that we know the groove that Frank wants to go with, and that’s with Rod at the point and Will at the two. If Will is hitting shots, and Angel is not running around like a hyped up terrier on meth, they have a lot of potential. Especially if you have a rock like McGruder on the wing scoring and playing solid defense. However, if Angel has to sit for long stretches due to foul trouble, and Will isn’t hitting ANYTHING, we’re not going to win many games, at home or away, because we don’t have much behind them. I love Irving for what he brings off of the bench. However, he’s not the kind of guy that should be playing 25 minutes. He should be playing 15 minutes, like Rodriguez did tonight.
The 08-09 season, after Beasley left, was tough because we had an entire team of guys who weren’t “the guy”. Now, in 11-12, after Pullen left, we have a bunch of guys who aren’t “the guy”, and we’re adjusting to that. It’s rough. It’s ugly. However, and I hope to God this happens, we right the ship, finish 11-7 in the conference, and we go dancing in our rebuilding year.
Next season, should we not run off half of the team again, I think we have an opportunity to be very solid in 12-13 with Rodriguez, Spradling, and Irving finding the right mix. Having four gigantic trees we can march out there in JO, Diaz, Upshaw, and Lemon Chex won’t hurt either. However, in the meantime, we’ve got a true freshman, a sophomore that looks like he’s still waiting to get hair under his armpits, and a consummate role player trying to lead the back court of a team in a gauntlet of a conference, and honestly, that’s not going to win you a lot of games unless the players I mentioned were recruited by John Calipari.
There, I needed to write all of that out. I feel better now.
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Yeah, that nails it.
For all the thousand things that plague this team (like every other team with limited firepower and no room for error in execution) … problem #1 is Will missing nearly every single shot he takes. And then throwing it to the other team because his shooting is driving him insane.
If/when Will starts shooting it just ok again, it’s going to cover up a motherfucking lot of issues.
The team tried to fool us through the non-con … but it’s officially a rebuilding year. And I just hope we can grind to a dance invite as well. The numbers are there for us, if we can just win 11. Maybe even 10, if they are the right 10. Especially this year, because college basketball is gawdawful this year.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Very well put Pan
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I still say yes, but we just erased a ton of room for error.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't know
Are we going to beat KU at home? Win at MU? Win at Baylor? Win at Texas? Win at Iowa State? Suddenly, after getting swept by OU, I am just really running low on faith.
by ksu&warpaint on Jan 28, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Don't take too much from this game ...
As it’s been presented places in the thread above, OU is a bad, bad matchup for us because we have nobody on the roster at the 1-2 spots that can guard Pledger. And then they have enough athletes up front to hang with us on the boards.
I still expect to get 2 from a&m (they don’t have any matchup issues for us). I expect to get the other game from Tech. I expect to beat ISU and OSU at home. That’s 9 wins.
I don’t expect to win @MU or @Baylor, though I would not count out @Baylor because their mojo is almost entirely gone now.
We will fight ku down to the end. Don’t know how that turns out.
I think we have a shot @ISU because there is the possibility of totally dominating them on the boards.
We have a shot @Texas because Texas is a psycho team full of freshmen and limited players.
imo, we are in limbo between 10 and 11 wins.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't mean to diminish the importance of losing this game ...
to clarify, I mean don’t take too much from this game as it pertains to future games against other teams.
I sure as hell don’t want to play OU again.
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They seem to be this season's Colorado Cryptonite.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 28, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that was me
Dammit ):
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I'm rooting for you guys but I think your vision is a little optimisitc.
ISU just ate our lunch on the glass. Maybe your energy will be better and that won’t be a problem for you but they’ve done it to us, so totally dominating them on the boards might be a possibility but it’s a small one.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I hate agreeing with you, but I do.
The schizophrenic way that this team is playing (which, in my opinion, is caused by the schizophrenic way it is coached) means that no win is guaranteed, and any game (except TTU at home) could be a potential loss. And what ISU did to your Beakers today scares me a LOT.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 29, 2012 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
Look, let's not talk about ISU like they're indestructible just because they beat ku at home.
Frankly, if you expected ku to win @ISU, you probably need to re-evaluate your expectations. ISU is a pretty talented team that was digging their trench around that game. The point spread was ludicrous for anyone paying attention.
Now … the KSU/ISU game is a classic letdown situation for ISU and they’ll have a desperate KSU team on their hands that matches up pretty well. Does that mean a KSU win? No. Does it mean that KSU has a decent shot? Hell yes.
ISU is the same team that should have lost to OSU at home about a week and a half ago.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 29, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
We played bad and still could have pulled out the W. They're far from indestructible.
I was just commenting on the “dominating them on the boards” part. Either way, good luck and I hope you guys beat them.
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Rock Chalk Talk
We're going to win at least one game we're not supposed to win, and lose one we're not supposed to lose.
This team will probably go to Ames and win, and they’ll probably beat Baylor (or something) in Waco.
Then we’ll probably lose at home to Oklahoma State or something.
Here’s the thing. Per the RPI, we have zero bad losses. Zero. We have good wins via the RPI and a big win over MU.
The bubble teams this year are truly horrific. We can’t go 8-10, 9-9 (if it’s the right nine) can probably do the job. If we get ten, we’re probably in as a low at large because the field is pathetic.
Beat Kansas at home, and it erases both losses to OU. Period.
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On the bubble at this point
The team can play with any team in the country when they are on their game. But the games against OU, are the worst games we’ve played and quite a few teams would beat us very easily.
Which is the real team, don’t know. This is a fun group of guys to watch, but as Pan points out they are young.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 28, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
And if Frank keeps fiddle-farting with guys' psyches,
by benching them for every mistake they make, or for just pissing him off, we may end up on the wrong side of the bubble.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 28, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
It isn't the coaching.
You can blame the coach or coaches all you want but as BigE notes in his post game write up the players aren’t executing. And this isn’t the first game that it has happened.
One of the more revealing interviews with Coach Martin where he said one player was supposed to throw the ball in bounds and that player did not do it. Despite being immediately after a time out. If the player(s) do not do what they are coached to do during game situations, it is not the fault of the coaches.
I find it funny that everyone loves Coach Martin when we beat Missouri by double digits but all of a sudden he stinks when the team starts having problems. Either he can coach or he can’t.
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by Anon_the_younger on Jan 29, 2012 7:07 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think he "stinks."
I think he’s an immature coach, who has strong and weak points, but whose immaturity causes him to do things which are counterproductive to the goals he has for his teams.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Jan 29, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
This I agree with
and I keep saying it. Frank is a good coach, but immature. Once he gets over that, he can become a great coach
I just got to think that he knew that we were going to be in for a tough game at the beginning of the week
And if there was one thing that I took away from the coaches I that I have interacted with through my life it is that confidence is extremely important, you don’t say at the beginning of the week that we need a full house against a team that is on the wrong side of the bubble. And I just have to think that if we had a coach like Bill Self (just a good coach who popped in to my head not saying we should necessarily Bill Self and fire Frank) who doesn’t set his team up to lose a game just to prove a point, even though that may not have been what he did this game he did it in the first game and did 2 things in doing so, 1 he gave OU confidence, 2 he took away a valuable chance to gain experience from some crucial players
by EMAW 4 Ever on Jan 29, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's about a 55% chance the Cats make the tourney
But they must not lose again at home, and that includes against KU.
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If we go XX-7, we're getting something like a 5-seed.
Honestly, we could very well go 9-9 (with a home win over ku) and still get in this year with our non-con and this terrible bubble taking shape. 10-8 puts in a good spot. 11-7 is a lock.
Our situation is not bad. It’s just tough to see the good right now.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
OU Loss Hurts
I’ve been extremely hard on Frank this year, however, I’m beginning to think much of the blame goes to our players. Lack of effort on the players part and a very low basketball IQ by the whole team. Angel did some great things offensively, however, erased all of them with his bad passes and dumb fouls. Offensively I’ve never seen a team move the ball slower than we did tonight. We got beat by a team with lesser talent and a whole lot more desire to win.
I'm wondering if a visit from the football team captains wouldn't go a long way.
If nothing else it would be a huge bonding moment that the football team cares about the Bball team. Compare that to the KU teams brawling.
Our football team figured out how to win through sheer will. Yes you can learn this. We call it heart, but in reality it’s sports psychology.
In basketball you can’t think, you just do. When you think about everything or pause for a moment and wonder is you’re going to get yanked if you screw this pass or whatever up, you’re a step behind and you are going to screw up. Repetition takes the thinking out of it, that’s on the coaches. Doing what the coaches say, that’s on the players.
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I'm may have just seen the stupidest use of the words Honey Badger and don't give a shit
Pistachios, in the immortal words of mike ditka, STOP IT!
That was out waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before people started using it to discribe athletes.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
By the way, credit to McGruder for a gutty game ...
He didn’t come up big on rebounds, but he scored a lot of well-earned points when nobody else was. Nearly brought us back on his own in the second half up to the 10-minute mark. And he locked up Pledger (except for broken-court points) when we abandoned the idea that any of our guards had a chance.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 28, 2012 9:29 PM CST reply actions
pathetic
maybe we will make a strong NiT run
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K-S-U ! long long may thy colors fly
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