Open Game Thread: College Football Week One
by TB on Sep 3, 2011 11:01 AM CDT
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After last summer, I didn't think it was possible to have a worse offseason, but 2011 proved me wrong. But we can put all that behind us now, as college football gets started in earnest today.
We've already had a worthy appetizer, as Baylor knocked off Texas Christian in a thriller last night. I don't know about you, but my personal "Robert Griffin III Fear Meter" spiked last night.
The Big 12 slate is below. For a thorough rundown of national games of interest, check out Sean Keeley's College Football Buffet. The game thread for K-State's game will be posted one hour before kickoff.
Missouri vs. Miami (OH), Faurot Field, Columbia, Mo., 11:00 a.m.
Texas Tech vs. Texas State, Jones AT&T Stadium, Lubbock, Texas, 6:00 p.m.
Iowa State vs. Northern Iowa, Jack Trice Stadium, Ames, Iowa, 6:00 p.m.
KU vs. McNeese State, Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, Kan., 6:00 p.m.
Oklahoma State vs. Lafayette (Louisiana?), Boone Pickens Stadium, Stillwater, Okla., 6:00 p.m.
Oklahoma vs. Tulsa, Gaylord Family -- Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, Norman, Okla., 7:00 p.m.
Texas vs. Rice, Darrell K. Royal -- Texas Memorial Stadium, Austin, Texas, 7:00 p.m.
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bisches get owned!
First
"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising
I should drop a 1-day ban on you for this.
;)
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
by K.S.B. on Sep 3, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say you let it go...
It was quite a ballsy move on his part
I still trying to figure out what a "bisch" is.
Once I do, there could be hell to pay…
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Bisch is what you...
Nevermind :)
"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising
Come at me bro
"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising
I've waited WAY too long for this day to be here.
It’s gameday in Manhattan!!!!
PURPLE GET READY TO ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy the thread fellas… I may post a picture of the new field from my seat if ya want. I don’t know about you, but I’m feeling like it’s gonna be a good season for us this year.
EMAW!!!!!!!
For your viewing pleasure...
Purple, get ready to roll!!!(opens in new window)
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
THAT
makes my skin crawl (in a VERY good way, mind you) and causes permagrin every time I watch it.
I will have an “all access” pass today…I really want to try and get a video like this for myself, but I will most likely not even try.
by Jeremy Sharp on Sep 3, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
"If Bill Snyder says he's ready to do this, is there any doubt?"
Could this be the most magical football season ever? I’m thinking 12-0 (9-0) would be nice!
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."
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Kirk....Herbstreit?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
I love football. I also love women.
But I just tried to watch Auburn on espn3…
I HATE FEMALE PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCERS. I CANT. EFFING. STAND IT.
That’s not all true. If a women sounded exactly like Mushburger, I could probably stand it.
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Utah St True Freshman QB is doing well against Auburn
pretty impressive.
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Yeah, Chuckie is making a name for himself here.
Also, I think Gene Chizik could be heading on a win NC, get fired three years later path. The guy is really not a very good coach.
I see Utah State holding on to win here.
Last year was the weirdest national champion I've ever seen.
They got freaking LUCKY several times, just to get to the NC game. And Chizik had NOTHING to do with it. That was all the $200K Kid.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Agreed.
They had some bizarre wins. Can’t argue with how they played in the big one though. Pretty impressive.
But that was more a credit to Cam Cam and Fairley than Chizik. A lot of coaches would look good with those two guys.
Snyder wouldn't have played
either of them because of their practice habits.
oh hail the Purple and White
by Furnace76 on Sep 3, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Utah State poised for the upset
and Gene Chizik will have some ‘splainin’ to do if that happens.
Loved the strategy of the run on 3rd down, knowing they would go for it on 4th anyway.
Too many pass plays called by coaches in that situation.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, very smart. And the delay of game was a stroke of genius.
Risked being too cute by half, but definitely pulled a fast one on Chizik. Seemed to be a pretty great catch to me.
Wow, what a catch on 4th-and-3 if its good
LIke the flea-flicker back to RG3 last night for Baylor on 3rd-and-10 on their last drive. Gutsy call by Utah State regardless.
I actually think this announcer is pretty good.
Is it Doris Burke?
Every time I see a Big 12 commercial on TV at this point, I kind of feel like I want to throw up.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Yep.
Makes me ill.
My thoughts are, let’s enjoy the hell out of this season because if things go as badly as they could this might be the last year I really give a crap about college football.
I'm wanting to start a viral campaign to lobby for a Pac-18 that includes us and Kansas.
Truthfully, it could work. I was up until 2 AM talking with TB trying to convince him that I wasn’t a crazy person.
Doug Gottleib tweeted that some in the Big 12 were lobbying for 18 to 20 teams in the league, and he guessed we were one of them.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Split East / West, with the only cross-play in the Title game?
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Yeah.
Basically, it’s not completely retarded for the following reasons:
1) It adds two schools in the Central Time Zone where the Pac desperately wants more inventory
2) It allows the creation of two nine team divisions that better align geographically reducing the issues regarding non-revenue sports travel
3) It reduces the risk of political fallout because more teams are included in the BCS
4) They get KU basketball and it follows the traditional ‘travel buddy’ system seen in the Pac
There’s a lot more, but if you draw it out on a map, it looks pretty good. Mizzou goes to the Big Ten with ND, Pitt, and Rutgers, and the SEC and ACC do a little swapping and pillage the Big East for the remainder.
Really, in my scenario, the only schools that get screwed are ISU and Baylor, and everyone pretty much accepts that as an inevitability anyway.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
This was one of the 1000s of ideas trotted out last year that I thought was interesting ...
mainly because I thought we were fucked.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to toot my own horn, but find my fan shot from a few days ago.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
A BOTC original?
Who’s our video guy?
A Pac-18 with two divisions could work:
West: OSU, Oregon, WSU, Wash, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, Utah
East: Arizona, ASU, Colo, UT, OU, OSU, KU, KSU, TTech
Just not sure whether they think KU, KSU, TT are meaningful enough to go with 18 instead of 16.
Well, here's the other thing...
Larry Scott is talking about regional networks as well. CU and Utah probably don’t have the juice to really necessitate their own regional network, but if you throw us in there, you get a regional network with two more schools in the Central Time Zone.
I mean, stranger things have happened.
If the Pac really wants KU, they have to go to 18. Texas is bringing along Tech. There is no way around it. And KU is more likely to fight for us than Mizzou for numerous reasons, the least of which is the fact that MU will find a home five seconds after this conference implodes anyway.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Yeah, I guess my biggest concern is KU going and KSU not.
I think Scott could rationalize it by grouping KU and CU along with Utah as one market and I don’t get the impression KU either has the power or the desire to make sure we come along for the ride.
I shudder to even consider how devastating it would be for KU to be in the Pac 12 while were laid out to pasture.
If we didn't find our way to the BigEast in that scenario ...
I would give up college sports. All of them.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Same boat.
The big boys may not really care because in their eyes Baylor, ISU, KSU are drops in the ocean of revenue, but I think college sports would lose more than a few viewers if this all happens and multiple schools get screwed by this greed.
My thoughts, too
And although its better than nothing, I wouldn’t be thrilled with the Big Least.
But he needs #18. There aren't a lot of good options west of the Mississippi that aren't already claimed.
I mean, Baylor is a no because Hell will freeze over before the Pac accepts a private Baptist university into their ranks, and it’s not like they’ll take ISU.
Think about it. Nearly every single school in the Pac has a ‘travel buddy’.
UW/WSU
UO/OSU
Stanford/Cal (N. Cali)
UCLA/USC (S. Cali)
UA/ASU
UT/Tech
OU/OSU
Utah/CU (Mountain Time Zone)
KU/KSU????
I mean, logically, you can make a case for it.
Mizzou has other claims. I think they’ll take their chances out east and align with those schools because it’s a better fit. Besides, we get along better with KU, the Oklahomas, and Texas anyway.
The only Big 12 teams left out in this scenario would be ISU and Baylor, and really, it’s a foregone conclusion that ISU is screwed and the entire universe hates Baylor.
Making sure 10 of the 12 teams have a home in a BCS conference helps make sure that this all goes a lot more smoothly.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I don't get the sense Big 10 is going to try to grab Mizzou anytime soon.
So I guess the hope is they’d go to SEC?
I guess I don’t understand why 18 and not just 16. Two 8 team leagues would work. And then the question really becomes whether Larry Scott wants KU for basketball and no TT or to bring Tech to appease UT.
Texas may be able to leave Baylor behind...
But they can’t leave two of them. They have to take one. You can’t leave two swinging in the wind.
Why 18? Well, the desire of the Pac, supposedly, is to get more of a presence in the CTZ for TV purposes. Even though a lot of media folks think we don’t bring much value, the entire state of Kansas is college sports crazy. Being able to add the two of us brings in KC, appeases some of the political fallout, and a nine team division means 8 conference games with four non-con. That’s kind of a nice sweet spot.
Basically, adding us wraps up pretty much every viewing area they would possibly get west of the Mississippi (as the map shows below).
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I hope you're right.
Also, I know basketball doesn’t do anything in this conversation, but the Pac 16 would be a pretty brutal conference without KU/KSU.
Again, I know it pretty much means nothing, but maybe someone in Pac 12 world is concerned about having such crap basketball and KU/KSU certainly add value there?
After the first mention of this, ESPN had this conversation on CFB Live...
And they had KU/KSU to the Pac to bolster the BBall.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I've been wondering
what FOX and ESPN have been doing behind the scenes the last few days. They didn’t want to see Super-Conferences last year, would one of them be willing to help launch a Sooner Network in order to ensure OU is satisfied to stay in the Big-12?
It would be interesting to have KU/KSU go to Big East
and have West coast dominate football and East coast dominate basketball.
Think of how bad the Pac 16 would be at NCAABB – OSU, Oregon, Washington St, Stanford, Cal, Utah, Colo, TTech, Arizona State. I mean, that is just pathetic.
Suppose Baylor was a higher valued team...
What objections does the PAC really have against baptists?
I mean, they have baptists on the West Coast as well…
Just too much of a culture difference?
[ for full disclosure, I am Catholic, ignorant about the problem here ]
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Yeah, definitely not a cultural fit.
Stanford and Cal wouldn’t be caught dead playing in Waco.
Cal-Berkeley is left of Lenin
and the Pac-10 is made up of non-religious-affiliated universities. Ken Starr being president of Baylor can’t be lost on UCLA, USC, Stanford, Washington, Oregon and Cal.
Why wasn't BYU considered?
It’s basically because the Pac hates religious institutions.
We are talking about the West Coast here.
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
USC is Methodist
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
USC was Methodist
Originally operated in affiliation with the Methodist Church, the school mandated from the start that “no student would be denied admission because of race.” The university is no longer affiliated with any church, having severed formal ties in 1952.
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crud, now I don't have a reason to root for 'em
/has never rooted for USC
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I Have
a MS from USC, but I have never (almost) rooted for them. Maybe once or twice against Notre Dame or some B1G school, but no really beyond that.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
You always fall in love with the undergrad.
That’s just the way it goes.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Which is why I feel bad for the three Jay-chickens and one Nub in my department on campus
One is a professor, the other three are doctoral students. They have no idea what they missed out on by going to the wrong school for undergrad.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I always say that
I am in law school at Arizona State, and I couldn’t give two shits about their sports. Might just be because they suck. If they had a couple good seasons I might start caring. They really need to fire Erickson.
And they'll want to go east
to the Big-10 if they had their druthers
This is the map I drew up to help visualize it...
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
by Panjandrum on Sep 3, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This makes too much sense.
You mean we can use common sense w/r/t geography and maintaining some traditional rivalries?
Doubt it happens.
Thinking about it a bit more, Pan
I see two major flaws:
1) Larry Scott is on record saying 16-team conferences are the future, not 18
2) They want to add value without divvying up the revenue pie further
Not sure what we bring to the table in terms of additional revenue, but we would no doubt be a net consumer. UT and OU would not.
Larry Scott also needs to get his plan past the legislators and the government as well...
The BCS is already under fire for anti-trust laws. Consolidating even more makes it worse.
There are currently 67 BCS teams. 68 next year when TCU joins.
4×16=64
4×18=72
Add four more, and you don’t have to worry about any BCS school left behind taking you to task on Capitol Hill.
They’ll get the revenue pie because there will be less inventory overall as the mid-major conferences dry up and whither away. They’re just going to have to make sure that to reduce the number of teams from 120 to 72, they need to keep everyone in an AQ conference in an AQ conference.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
by Panjandrum on Sep 3, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would hope if KSU gets left out that the few schools screwed put together a massive lawsuit.
There would be severe damages to those schools that would change the quality of the universities and thus do real harm to the states.
Are you counting Notre Dame or BYU?
Counting TCU as in the Big Least and those two schools I came up with 69.
BYU will never be BCS. They don't have the support or respect.
They must have an AQ conference, which is odd that it’s taken this long to secure a commitment from them.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
What if the supposed 4 Super-Conferences blow up the BCS
and split from the NCAA? Where would that leave things? I’m not sure, but I get the feeling there are greater things here at play.
Here's another one with three pods of 6...
This gives you a chance to potentially consolidate travel even more, and cross divisions a little more easily to give the conference greater exposure to one another.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I love the map, but how would a 3-pod conference work in practice?
Champions of West, Central, and East divisions then do… what exactly?
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I think this is more for tv.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the idea is to have regional sub-networks of the conference network. Four channels are better than one.
This IS only about money and tv contracts after all.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
I mentioned this the other day
This was kind of what was being bandied about last year before the Nubs left, except it would have been a TV alignment with non-cons between the two leagues.
Anyway, if the Big-12 collapses and I had my way we would definitely be heading to the PAC. But Weasel Larry Scott won’t take us ‘cause we don’t “move the TV needle.”
Some teams are going to have to be taken for insurance purposes...
If they want to consolidate, they need to redefine their definition.
If your goal is to reduce the number of FBS teams in an effort to ‘consolidate’, okay. That may be doable.
If your goal is to reduce the number of teams in an AQ conference, you’re going to have some massive issues legally and politically.
However, ensure that every AQ member has a home in this Brave New World, and add a couple of loudmouth mid-majors with a decent claim…well, it helps the medicine go down a whole lot easier.
Basically, consider us as a way to get more games in the true definition of ‘prime time’ and as the conference equivalent of a tax writeoff.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I like your thinking and all I can say is
God I hope you’re right. I don’t see Weasel Larry Scott having that broader vision, though. I do think if things go down and a lot of teams are left out than some serious political and legal avenues have to be explored.
Pan, I get the tenor of your post,
but it seems premised around the BCS construct. The BCS is dead in a few years. Something else, with a different name, will take its place. So we need not worry about the anti-trust implications as it relates to the BCS.
oh hail the Purple and White
Then whatever has a new name will get the same lawsuit.
Once you get invited to the party, it’s hard to kick someone out.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
James Franklin is making me extremely unscared of Mizzou.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions
I'm surpised at how boring this game is.
Usually, Mizzou games are pretty fun to watch.
This was part of the ‘8’ in my 8-4 prediction, BTW. I think MU is pretty overrated this year.
#stillloveyourmnfriends
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
To be fair it is his first game and they're probably being a bit conservative with what they ask of him.
Also to be fair I haven’t seen a second of the game so no idea if he looks terrible just doing that.
Nothing about Franklin will scare you when you see him ...
He’s a run-of-the-mill dual threat. I don’t see any dynamic weapons anywhere near the level of Danario Alexander or Jeremy Maclin either, so there is also that.
Not saying they suck, though, just that they are looking to be coming in under expectation to me. (and I realize that Miami OH isn’t a pushover)
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
God, why'd you mention Alexander.
I’m having nightmares again.
But yeah, the hype for Mizzou seemed a little out of whack heading into this year. They have a number of question marks and not nearly the explosive offense they’ve had the last couple years.
And... Auburn's incredible, stupid luck continues...
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Truly amazing how they pull these out.
Utah State’s hands team. Woof.
I don't recall K-State getting this damn lucky ONCE,
more or less roughly half a dozen times in a year or so.
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Indiana State in 1991?
When we blocked the extra point and Rogerick Green ran it back for two and we won by 1? Maybe I’m not remembering it right, but I seem to recall something like that.
Now multiply that by 10 or so, and you've got Auburn last year and this.
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That's right
Down with the golden dumbers
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
There needs to be a moratorium on ND being ranked preseason.
by yeahboozin on Sep 3, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ND ranked 16...down 16-0 at half...irony.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
That's true, but
it WAS a very stupid thing to do.
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yup...
looks like he should have a spot somewhere tho.
by WillieWannabe on Sep 3, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
James Madison is getting some coverage on ESPN right now.
Read on a SBNation site that Billy Cosh won the job…but he hasn’t seen the field so far. Was curious to see what he looked like out there.
OSU is now officially looking around...
"We are moving ahead," Hargis said in a statement distributed by school officials, noting that the overall strength of OSU’s athletic programs puts the school "in a position to explore and pursue options" outside the Big 12. Hargis acknowledged the possibility of remaining in the Big 12, where an expansion committee has been formed to respond to Texas A&M’s impending withdrawal from the 10-member league to explore an opportunity to join the Southeastern Conference.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Noted that on the thread from yesterday
And Mizzou is piping up as well, although Mike Alden makes a fair point about Boren not helping with stability and expansion efforts with that statement.
Yeah, it looks like Boren might be acting as a Chocopockets-lite.
It’s frustrating, because if these schools just would keep their panties from getting bunched up in their proverbial buttcracks, this thing could really work. Of course, it would help a lot if Beebe was an actual good leader…
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
I think the latter aspect you mention
has a lot to do with OU and Mizzou’s frustration.
How that man still has a job...
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Come, if Beebe were the problem he'd be fired
who is saving his job?
oh hail the Purple and White
The ultimate frustration in all this...is the timing.
Between A&M and now OU, et al. We had not had one down of football in the new Big 12 and they want to blow it up right as we start. We could have done this at the start of the summer or the end of this season but right at the proverbial opening kick-off was just a douche thing to do. Greed, greed, greed.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
is it just me or
are all the schools basically saying, take me, take me?
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not just you.
And it’s really pathetic.
It’s getting tougher and tougher to view Larry Scott and Jim Delaney as the villains in the soul selling of college athletics when leaders at institutions of higher education in our conference act like insecure girls in middle school trying to make sure they can grab a seat at the cool table during lunch.
You try to read the articles, disect the quotes, etc...
But Boren seemed to go against everything Joe C. has been saying in public lately. So, this is probably him driving that train. Or maybe they got booster feedback, and the big money guys want the Pac-12. Who knows?
The bottom line is that the Big 12 is probably dead at this point. I don’t think there’s a way to come back from this. When the folks steering the expansion committee say they’re looking around, well, you better start loading up the lifeboat.
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Barf
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
We'd be a part of the Big East for five minutes before it got pillaged.
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
The pillaging would occur
before basketball season even began
I realize that I wrote an article last year saying we should go to the Big East, but when actually facing that possibility...
I say, “Meh. Not interested unless we have no place else to go.”
I just hope they aren’t our first call.
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someone mentioned this was a scare tactic by Boren
to get Beebe to expand the conference sooner.
by WillieWannabe on Sep 3, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I will hate him less if this is true.
Someone needs to light a fire under Beebe’s ass, that’s for sure.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
The problem though with it is perception.
It makes the Big 12 look like it’s about to collapse even more than before, which will make it even harder to attract new members.
Yeah, to me the quote read:
“Get three quality members to join in the next three weeks or we’re looking out solely for ourselves and that means Pac 16, see ya Big 12.”
Let’s hope Beebe got the message.
I thought so, too
And I’m guessing it still isn’t registering with Beebe.
Bohls tweets
kbohls kbohls
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@leetg I would up the percentage of the four to the Pac12 from 70 percent to 90 percent.
kbohls kbohls
@
@RRB4KU Pac12 wants Texas, and Texas wants Tech to come with. If both said no, Pac12 could go after Kan, Missouri.
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
This has the stench of last summer's "certainty" that... well... ended up being something less than certain.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
And this is just asshat territory here. I mean there is exploring and then there is taunting your fellow conference members.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Yawn
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Okay, is Kirk Bohls one of those we're not supposed to pay attention to
or is he somehow better connected than anyone else following this stuff?
his writing is commentary/opinion
not reporting at least from what I read on the Austin paper’s website.
or it could be somebody else …
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Brady Hoke needs to go on that Dan Marino diet thing.
Just sayin’, he’s a BIT dough-y.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Let KU go to the PAC...
We’ll go here.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
everyone at the game?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
EDSBS - come for the articles, stay for the trolling.
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
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