K-State Slate: 9.2.11
by TB on Sep 2, 2011 7:12 AM CDT
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Former tight end Jordan Voelker is one among many players who is providing depth along the defensive line.
Here's yet another look at the Brown brothers and their travels, from Wichita to Miami and Knoxville and beyond. The best part is undoubtedly about Bryce's love for fishing.
Having blue-chip players like Bryce Brown won't alter the K-State system. I tend to be a little more optimistic about the number of carries Bryce Brown is going to get this weekend.
Spencer has his 100 certainties for the college football season over at the mothership. Sounds like we have a decision to make about whether we want our dominance of UT to continue.
Mike Alden says Missouri is committed to the Big 12. That's good, because they're the linchpin right now.
Bruce Feldman left ESPN and will now write for CBS Sports.
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Well, well, well
Look at who is denying being affixed to K-State in realignment. It looks like we can put the forced marriage with KU a means of securing BCS access myth to rest.
As I said...
…on the podcast last night (which will be loaded and posted sometime today, I hope), if affiliation with KU is our hope of landing in a major conference, then God help us. Don’t read the comments of KU and Missouri fans and take them as a statement of K-State’s actual value in conference realignment. We are absolutely not the most attractive target, but even if it does come down to 64 schools, you only have to outrun the slowest guys in the race, and I’m confident we will.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Sep 2, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
so in that race, KU has already been lapped?
One thing to remember is that basketball is not driving this shuffling of schools. KU has a great tradition and all in basketball, so they will land someplace where they can continue playing basketball, but not necessarily in a football “super” conference. The idea in the Daily Kansan article that KU would fit in the SEC, is laughable at best. KU does not have anything in common with those schools other than maybe UK in basketball. K-State for that matter does not have much in common with the SEC, although we I’m sure there are those that could make an argument for it.
If you look at academics, K-State having the national lab opening up is a nice thing but I’d guess that a significant portion of research dollars are agriculture related. And yes, some folks will take a long view when looking at which schools to add.
Since football is driving the conference shuffle, KU is basically paddling up a river with a really strong current. K-State is in a better place than KU, but I’d say we are in the bubble area considering the tv market and KS population base.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree, Anon
particularly regarding the (hysterically laughable) claim that KU is a fit for the SEC. The goober writing in the Daily Kansan has no clue – although it would be delightful watching the Jayhawks go 0-12 every single year in the SEC (including the obligatory non-con loss to North Dakota State).
I also agree that KSU has more to offer football-wise than KU. KU’s proximity to the KC market gives it no more title on that market than KSU’s to Wichita does over that city (admittedly a much smaller market). In both cases there are tons of alums and fans of both schools in those respective places.
IF the Big-12 collapses – and I’m not buying that notion yet – and major realignment occurs, a split is likely because there is no net gain in a conference adding both KU and KSU.
The key
“no net gain in a conference adding both KU and KSU.” That is the truth.
Now, this super conference thing does not want 64 Alabamas. They want a fair share of “weak” football schools, too. Thus, KU serves that purpose, while adding lustre with its b/ball tradition. This is why I think KU is more attractive as a super conference addition: it fills out the schedule with a win in football, but looks good because of its national reputation in football.
oh hail the Purple and White
"national reputation in b/ball"
oh hail the Purple and White
I pretty much agree
but in terms of fan enthusiasm for football and overall football competitiveness KSU is the better bet. And let’s face it: an Alabama could beat up on K-State nine of every 10 seasons, making the 10-of-10 differential of beat-downs against KU marginal at best.
But you make the same point I’ve long pounded on: in order for Super-Conferences to work they still need some “have-nots” to beat up on because a national championship game between 7-5 USC and 6-6 Florida doesn’t hold much luster. And I still think the 64 number is too low by at least 10.
96 is the perfect number.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Agree completely!
The bowl subdivision really should not be up to what, 129 now. That is absurd. And I think 96 is just right.
oh hail the Purple and White
Another myth about the KC market is that only KU and Mizzou grads live there.
I would put it at around 30% K-State fans live there as well.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Kansas City has the largest concentration of KSU graduates in the country.
Aside from being a fantastic place to live, work, and raise a family.
#personwholoveslivinginkansascityandneverwantstoleave
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Pan doesn't care what all the naysers say.
He’s a KC-for-lifer and does what he wants.
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by mystman995 on Sep 2, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I march to the beat of my own satchel.
Bring on the Cats
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KU TO THE HORIZON LEAGUE!
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This doesn't really put it to rest
KU has no more control over who gets attached to them than Texas does. It’s the Kansas legislature that would potentially force it. The big difference is that KU is not a strong enough institution to carry any riders, so if it comes down to it, it is a matter of whether they can convince the government of this reality.
I was just preparing to post this same thing.
It matters not one whit whether or not KU actually WANTS to be attached to K-State.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
they don't
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Fortunately,
no one cares about what KU wants.
So there was no absolutism to her statement.
The Board, who I guess has great influence, have not talked about them staying together. So to say that separation of the two is possible is also a perversion of the facts.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
It was also written by the greatest homer this side of Springfield
I don’t care for any analysis that boob gives what someone says. I would trust him to analyze a grocery bag.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I love the article about blue chip players
It’s refreshing to think that Snyder is able to get more out of hard working lower star players than whiney blue chips. As a teacher, I see kids every day with lots of potential, but no work ethic, who fail miserably bc you don’t feed and wipe them daily. On the other hand, those that know how to work and find solutions to problems are almost always the most successful students. I’m proud that K-state is sort of the poster child for hard work = success.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
The letter written by Alden basically says Missouri is a great catch.
At least that is what I hear….Strong National Brand….Academically strong. Please come take us other conferences when this falls apart. I certainly didn’t hear conviction to stay in the big 12.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Dear everyone who thinks KU will get picked up by a BCS conference and KSU won't.
Football is the driver, nothing else. Duke will be left out. Great basketball and no football. Same with Wake.
KSU Football sells out season opener against a directional speed bump.
KU turns to GroupOn to get bodies in the seats.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
That's something I don't hear much...
What’s to prevent a Duke, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, etc. from dropping football to FCS?
I know that Vandy won’t but my point is why are some of these small private schools that can barely put people in the stands considered in this mess? MY PERSONAL OPINION is that those should be the first schools cut.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
With all this super conference talk
You’re right – nobody’s talking about cutting a school from a conference. I find this to be absolute bullshit.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Honestly, what does Wake Forest bring to the table?
You want remote? How about Washington State. They would struggle in basketball and football in the Mountain West due to recruiting.
Boise State gets absolutely no play in any conversations, yet they are a media darling and play football at the highest levels. They will never be a part of a major conference. Ever.
The whole thing that’s frustrating about these discussions is that it’s got nothing to do with what makes college football superior to the professional version: tradition, rivalry, and diversity.
College football is great because you have passionate, heated rivalries that last over a hundred years in some cases. You have hundreds of different teams running different offenses, defenses, and trick plays. You have so many different teams to be a fan of for so many different reasons that connections tend to be passionate and deep.
I just feel like with all of the proposed scenarios, and their various reasons, we’re looking at destroying what makes college sports so much fun. And it makes me sad inside. I don’t think a lot of these doomsday scenarios will come to fruition, but even the thought that some people support this is just incredibly sad.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
by Panjandrum on Sep 2, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's absolutely sad.
If all this goes down, everybody is going to regret it. I mean EVERYBODY. (What have we done?)
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by mystman995 on Sep 2, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't know Mr. Feeny was a Longhorn fan.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 2, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
MR. FEENY IS A NORTHWESTERN GRAD DAMN IT!
And yes I totally just looked that up…
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by mystman995 on Sep 2, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But dang it
That sad ass faced UT fan really does look like him.
by Jeremy Sharp on Sep 2, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I know
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by mystman995 on Sep 2, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I heard on 810 yesterday
I think it was Blair K’s hour…that Wake Forest actually annually loses money on football, and uses basketball to make up the loss, as is the case with a lot of ACC schools (another reason why I think pairing with the Big East -other than missing out on Clemson- is a stronger business model).
"Nor yet in Dell?"
It's called being grandfathered in.
Nobody said that things would be fair or make sense. You just don’t want to be the little guy in the conference that get cannibalized.
I doubt you see conferences "cutting" members
Particularly not in the Big-10. Those schools have been together since before World War I. But I think you hit on an interesting point that I’ve long considered as well: Why should Northwestern, Purdue, Duke, Vandy, Washington State, Oregon State, N.C. State, Mississippi State or Rutgers be in the BCS discussion and not K-State?
$$ and tv market size.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes and no
What TV market does Washington State secure all the way out in eastern Washington? The Moscow, Idaho market? Seattle is already locked up by UW.
Miss.State garners zero TV markets.
Duke, Northwestern and Vandy are all small private schools with limited cache (except for Duke basketball). Not many people in Nashville are tuning into Vandy football over their Volunteers.
If the point is simply that by dint of university birthplace you have automatic cache despite lackluster football and sporadic (at best) fan support, than yes, Rutgers is a great choice. Even though almost no one in NYC will watch them other than Rutgers grads, I guess it doesn’t matter in terms of cable network contracts.
those already in a conference will stay in the conference
and by conference I mean one that is not raided and pillaged by other conference. Otherwise it is about $$ and tv market (or perceived viewership).
K-State might be more worthy but if worst comes to worst, our conference is likely pillaged and we do not offer much in the way of tv sets.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I totally agree
Such is the pitiful state of college football, its upside-down value system and the whoring out to TV executives and their marketing consultants.
Having worked and lived in or near NYC for most of my life I still have to shake my head at the nonsensical assumption that some college team – or combination of teams – will help a conference “capture” the NYC TV market (or as you correctly observe, “perceive” to capture the TV marketplace). And when I lived in Boston the amount of people who paid any attention to BC football was limited to BC alums, otherwise no one gave two $#its about them.
What we need is for 2 million people from across the country to up and move to Wichita tomorrow – and in the process for all of them to become K-State season ticket holders or subscribers to K-StateHDTV and send all their kids to K-State.
Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening.
Last time I checked Wichita wasn't a top 50 market...
But it was 51!
Do we get a nice consolation prize?
"Nor yet in Dell?"
The answer to your question CT-K-Stater,
about why Northwestern and Ms.State have nothing to worry about, is because they are in conferences that are loyal to all its members. They built the conferences, top to bottom, not only “at the top.” The B/12 didn’t. And the NUBS were hypocrites when they finally started making his complaint.
oh hail the Purple and White
Is anyone else having issues loading and viewing BOTC?
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Sep 2, 2011 11:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I have to re-load the page several times as only the borders load while the content is missing
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Sep 2, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
it has happened a couple of times in the last week
but that is with webOS …
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Topic: "Longhorn Network - Failure to Launch"
oh hail the Purple and White
Topic: "Longhorn Network - Failure to Launch"
check this out:
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/9/2/2400179/longhorn-network-failure-to-launch#storyjump
TLN has served its intended purpose. It was never going to be a stand-alone, single school network.
oh hail the Purple and White
So that's what the aggies were afraid of
The ’horns being able to fail more epically than they have the past 15 years. I get it now.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Sep 2, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's somewhat amusing to hear Texas fans complaining about this
I like this one…
They’re all a bunch of asshats. It all comes down to cash money — us little peons be screwed. More than likely a 23rd hour deal will be done when someone decides that they have to cave.
Kris Hughes
Founder, FanAttic Network
Now that is rich!
all this frickin drama for this? This is what I could never figure out. Yea, so Longhorn has a lot of fans. Let’s assume that 33% of the set of 100% (set being bigtime college football fans in state of Tejas) are Longhorn fans. So 66% of the “set” is not a Longhorn fan. Out of the original set of 100%, at least 50% probably HATES Longhorn. So tell me, why would the local cable provider piss off 50% of his sport nut subscribers, in order to placate 33% of his sport nut subscribers. A Longhorn centric network ain’t gonna fly in Tejas. But I’m sure the genius marketing wizards at Deathstar figured that out.
oh hail the Purple and White
Gee I wonder how well a Big 12 network might have worked?
Greed. Greed. And more greed. Failure to understand your product and how to build your brand is the problem. They must have the same folks assisting UT as K-State had creating EcoKat. Both are going to end up as epic FAILS. Instead of just building one network with equal sharing from the collaboration while keeping the conference intact we have this nonsense.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Sep 2, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Um...
I know that’s supposed to be a fist pump in your picture (avitar, icon, thingy), but it looks very much like a silhouette of EcoKat inside the Powercat.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Yes, yes it does
I wonder if that was the point
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Wouldn't even have needed to be a "equal" split (not capitalist, you know)
It wouldn’t even have to be an "even" split. Any one of many formulas would have been great. For instance, distribute the profits based on # of actual subscriber tv sets in a conference state, divided by the number of schools in the state. So the state of Texas gets 40% of the revenue, divided by four schools (with adjustments for the relative fan strength between the 4 conference schools). Or just give UT 15%, tAm 12.5% and OU 12.5%, and the seven remaining schools get 8.75 %. There were dozens of ways to do a Big12 Network. Pisses me off that it didn’t happen.
oh hail the Purple and White
It hurts to see it in hindsight
but you are absolutely, positively 100% right.
That's Hilburn saluting inside a powercat sirs so shame on you both.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Brandon Banks', brain fa*t
oh hail the Purple and White
Ugh,
as a ’Skins fan it kills me to see that. All over the DC news – and Joey T was right.
Well, I'm such a fine, unstanding Rotarian and all,
I just couldin’t bring myself to use it in public.
oh hail the Purple and White
Red Alert
Sooners are weighing options on their future…God I hope someone in the Big-12 has some salesmanship skills and can lure a quality school (or three) into the conference within the next two weeks.
Yes much to my chagrin OU wants to join the douchery.
Well kids even I am starting to see some ice on the horizon of the fog called the Big 12. What a giant laughing stock our damn conference has become. We went from 2nd best in basketball and football to cannon fodder in last two years. Beebe this happened on your watch so if you like your job your arse better get cracking.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Sep 2, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Mike Alden says Missouri is committed to the Big 12. That's good, because they're the linchpin right now."
Oklahoma says CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
Link? Is this recent, or more recent than a few days ago?
oh hail the Purple and White
I think by now its pretty clear OU is the linchpin
Baylor’s AD basically came right out and said so last night.
Careful,
I said the same thing two days ago, and was internets accosted by the all knowing one … any doubt as to who the all knowing one is (?)
oh hail the Purple and White
No, you said Oklahoma and Missouri were the linchpins, and that UT didn't matter.
I made the point that OU and UT hold the keys.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
The thing is,
how do you lure a quality school to join in that time when OU has just publicly stated that they’re looking around? What school wants to take that risk? Which begs the question…why the hell did OU even state that publicly? All they did is make it less likely that a school will be comfortable joining the conference.
by No Moths on Sep 2, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why put out a statement
because apparent chaos is part of the plan. No, seriously, these university presidents are in a tough spot. Boren is probably getting a call from anyone who has ever given $500 to the program, putting in their 2 cents worth.
oh hail the Purple and White
Apparently OU tried an earnest attempt at keeping A&M on board and the Aggies gave em the proverbial finger.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Sep 2, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So they turn around and give the rest of us the same damn finger?
Sigh…I’m losing my optimism on this matter. This conference just keeps looming closer and closer to the edge…
by No Moths on Sep 2, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well when you read the article Boren seems exhausted.
OU wants stability and he even mentions that a 9 team conference could remain intact. I really think he is feeling pressured to look proactive at this point . In other words, the antithesis of Beebe (yes Sir prove me wrong).
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Sep 2, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beebe has little power in this matter -
too easy to blame him when the blame should be elsewhere.. And everyone is exhausted. I can’t imagine how tired Currie and Schultz must be. At least Boren has real options.
This, indeed, is sad.
oh hail the Purple and White
I think its exhaustion at this point
and I apologize, here is a fuller picture of the interview.
Nonetheless, I think OU is making an effort but you can’t blame them for keeping their options open. As Boren says, what can one school do? At the same time sending out this kind of signal at a point you are actively (or supposed to be actively) recruiting new member schools is the wrong message.
Who knows? Maybe BYU is balking. Maybe the possibility of snagging three Big Least teams – or even talking merger with the football schools – is running into all kinds of difficulties relating to TV expenses, etc. If OU and Texas are both interested in staying then the conference lives, but they have to be asking themselves whether we’ll be revisiting this in 3 years. If they feel the foundation of the nine (or eight, because who knows with Mizzou) is solid and some decent – they don’t have to be sexy, just decent – additions are out there than it can still work. But they have to be asking themselves if its worth it.
Of course there is another angle to consider, which is OU really is looking for a cable network to partner with on its Sooner network. Could this be a pressure play with ESPN? If the conference collapses and triggers absolute chaos – which it will – does ESPN want the blood on its hands? Do they even care?
TCU has a large presence in Baylor's stadium...
How do you let that many opposing fans fill up your stadium?
ask KU
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 2, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
yea if their stadium was at it's supposed 50k capacity
I was guessing that the horseshoe portion of the endzone might hold 10k, so the sidelines make up 40k of the stadium, on which one side TCU had close to half of a sideline…so they probably had a good 15-18k there.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
How did we let so many Nubs into our stadium last year? ):
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
because their fans will pay more than face value for a ticket ...
and the economy was tough…
oh hail the Purple and White
KU has a stadium?
I thought we just allowed them to use Bill Snyder Family Stadium East…
Baylor up
34-24. And we still have Cosh as D/coordinator. Baylor will beat us at home this year. I don’t have a good feeling. Hope I’m wrong. But RG3 to Wright is just unbelievable.
oh hail the Purple and White
1st half - by the way.
oh hail the Purple and White
Yeah but their defense still is not that good. So we should have a shoot-out again.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
It's going to be a shootout
I hope they come in overconfident and we can surprise them at home
Well, maybe we can outscore them.
We almost did last year with COFFMAN.
Winner gets a big to the Big East.
Interesting but unlikely alignment scenario...
Interesting alignment scenario from some guy on the Mercury web site I have not seen before. It is highly unlikely but he posits that the Big 10 will do a preemtive strike and form the first 16 team conferene by adding the rest of the old Big 12 North (KSU, KU, ISU, MU)
As far fetched as it sounds I kind of like it.
Link to Mercury?
oh hail the Purple and White
Only problem...we are not an AAU school yet...and perhaps not ISU.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Purdue is a darn good engineering college, or so I hear
oh hail the Purple and White
yea that too
I debated including that too, but not sure where ames falls into that category
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Purdue and ISU are both good engineering schools
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
ISU is actually more respected academically than KSU.
ISU is one of the “peer” schools that is being used in a lot of the 2025 talk that we are comparing ourselves against.
by Jeremy Sharp on Sep 3, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
ISU is more respected in certain areas
but there are areas where K-State is better.
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Michigan State is the B10 Aggie school.
I do not know that our AAU status would now be a hindrance. Nebraska lost their AAU status not because it’s a crappy school, but for the same reason we do not have AAU status in the first place. The AAU doesn’t count ag research money, but it’s not because they think ag research isn’t academic enough; it’s because USDA research grants aren’t “competitive”.
Now that the cherry’s been popped with Nebraska being out of the AAU, the Bioscience facility and our other newer high-tech research units might very well be attractive enough to the Big10 to want to get the CIC involved. In fact, I would say that if our administration is being proactive, Kirk better be talking to B10 academic folks and trying to sell us as a school without regard to athletics. It may not do any good, but just like the Big 12 talking to Notre Dame, you’ve got to make the effort.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 3, 2011 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, this
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Bring On The Cats
by TB on Sep 3, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
plus remember our academics are better than un-l's
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 3, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
KSU/OU to the B1G
At my nephew’s birthday party but I’m hoping to finish an article I started Tuesday before game time.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Sep 3, 2011 10:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I know Kirk talks to PSU's President on the regular.
At least in regard to realy University stuff (not necessarily athletics stuff).
by Jeremy Sharp on Sep 3, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Its definitely good to have friends out there
but I highly doubt Graham Spanier and Penn State does us any favors.
Try this...
if it doesn’t work go to the mercury.com and look down the left side of the page where the forums are.
That post in the Mercury is a fantasy, in my opinion
No credibility to it, although I wish it were true, even if it meant we had to be with the Nubs again.
oh hail the Purple and White
I'm still partial to a Big 8 division, Big East division super conference
At this point though, that would look like:
Big 8 division
ISU
Mizzou
KU
KSU
TTU
BU
TCU
UT
Assuming the Cream and Crimson take the Construction Zone/Pheasant season safety vest Orange cowboys with them
"Nor yet in Dell?"
it's not a save face for the Big 12 proposition
It’s a surrender the white flag and admit the both the Big 12 and Big East fb schools need eachother, and it’s a start over from scratch. We obviously need some leadership from elsewhere than the offices in Dallas TX.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Sep 2, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
So, so very true. Time for some kind of merger between either the Big Least and Big-12 or the Big-12 and ACC (the latter being my preference).
Absolute fantasy
That link is so far out of reality-land as to be off the map. The Big-10 wants Iowa State/KState/KU/Mizzou? None of that makes sense in light of what we know to be the battles going on in college football – which have nothing to do with tradition, quality product, etc, but with TV sets, proximity to major urban centers, huge stadiums, and anything else related to $$$$. It would be nice if it were true, but it ain’t happening.
The Big-10 might – might - poach a KU or Mizzou, and if they want to keep the Border War alive they might even take both. But after that why would they need K-State? Or Iowa State? They would want to move south and probably east to increase their TV footprint.
The Pac-12 has nowhere but to go but eastwards and so they have to get Oklahoma (and by extension OSU), and to do that they might have to pluck Texas by making concessions on the LHN.
I just hope that K-State isn’t up $#its creek without a paddle.To be going over this two years in a row – and the day of our season opener – is just frustrating beyond words. The Big Least may be our best option and if that happens say hello to a major downgrade in football and the exact same situation that we now find ourselves in, that being to hope and pray that our “new” conference doesn’t collapse. And that’s if we even get invited to join.
It makes absolutely zero sense for Boren to be making those statements the day before the season begins and at a time the Big-12 is trying to entice new members. Clearly he put those words out there for a purpose. What he is trying to accomplish with them is beyond me – if he had the Pac-12 invite and wanted to bolt he could have said so yesterday and been done with it so the only thing I can guess is he’s trying to placate Texas by saying, “Look, we made a best stab at keeping the Big-12 together. It’s over. Now let’s head west together and start fresh.”
I know you guys hate Chip, but for what its worth here is his latest on this train wreck.
There's one major thing I took from Chip's piece
None of his sources agree on what’s going on.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
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I thought the same thing
It seems the left hand of the Big-12 doesn’t know what the right is doing. All we heard after the A&M-to-leave-the-B12 rumors erupted was how the other 9 pledged unity to each other. So a week later all that is up in smoke? BYU must be balking and they must realize they need to get back to 12 and cannot find adequate (or willing) schools to fill up the conference. Here’s hoping T.Boone Pickens and some big-time TV execs are stepping into the picture and trying to persuade OU and UT from blowing the conference up.
It's not that I hate him,
it’s that he’s wrong more than he’s right.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
I don't disagree
But nonetheless I try to read everything and he puts stuff out there even if a lot of it turns out to be empty.
You might like to see
that someone else has been reading your thoughts, K.Scott. Not sure I agree with everything here, but I like his thinking. I don’t see Maryland leaving its ACC partners, but he’s right that they are a crucial link in any realignment scenario.
Anyone catch the GPC podcast today?
Interesting comments/props given to Schultz/Currie once again, but this was in the context of stadium expansion. Implications from my vantage point (so yes, I’m putting words into Fitz’s mouth at this point) was that there’s more down the pipeline than the press box expansion. But he was saying how you might see the leadership aggressively push the issue to position themselves as an institution that looks good on paper from the facilities standpoint, so that BSFS fits in a little better than a 50k seat stadium in some of these leagues.
At this point, this season becomes a beauty pageant. Let’s hope for a 9-3 campaign, a “trending upward” season so that other leagues take notice, and season ticket sales increase. I personally don’t know if we could support much more than say a 56k or 58k seat facility. I keep looking at Boone Pickens stadium at 60k with never much more than 90% capacity.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I listened to it for a bit ...
and about 10 minutes into it I got my fill of Ryan Wallace’s naivete and Rob Cassidy’s “Around the Horn” audition. I have no idea if Cassidy is really a douche or not, but he can project it like a champion.
Fitz needs someone else to talk to.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Sep 3, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Somebody do a fan shot on this
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=188&f=1650&t=7769534&p=1
It is T/Tech post of pics of what will happen to Aggie when he goes to the SEC. Pure gold – the watermelon shot is a rib splitter!
I am too far into the Wild Turkey to figure out how to do a fan shot. It deserves one – someone do it.
This should go viral!
oh hail the Purple and White
This just keeps getting better
I was waiting until Mizzou began griping. And now it’s a free for all…
And good, f-ing grief
Yes, the Longhorn network
has served its purpose. Chaos.
oh hail the Purple and White
Speaks volumes...translation we go with OU.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
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