The K-State, Miami game will air on ESPNU at 2:30 CT Saturday.
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this is good
because that means I can probably do espn3.com for this since I’ll be traveling out of town this weekend…alabama to be exact. Although my cousins might have a cable package big enough to have the “U”
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I hope ESPNU = ESPN3!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
It should
Any broadcast shown on any ESPN network should be available on ESPN3.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Except Monday Night Football
I tried to watch the games last weekend, but they were on the watch ESPN app instead of ESPN3. Only problem is that only Verizon and 2 other providers have access to the watch ESPN stuff.
ESPN never stops screwing with us
ESPNU, you are fucking kidding me! Not consistent with the “Snyder did it by scheduling cupcakes” narrative that they continue to push. This is another example of how ESPN never helped build our conference from the bottom up. And if KSU wins, and we get hosed on re-alignment, more egg on Deathstar’s face. ESPN absolutly hates HCBS ….
oh hail the Purple and White
But they adore Boise State...go figure.
Must be the blue turf.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
The funny thing about Boise is,
they have absolutely no chance of landing in a BCS conference if this thing goes to 4 of 16 teams each. The only chance they have is in a reconfigured Big 12 North.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
The BCS is an
agreement between a group of bowls and six conferences (commonly referred to as “the AQ conferences”). It is neither a law passed by congress nor a regulation of the NCAA. If (when) this thing goes to four conferences of 16 teams, that means two conferences have probably disappeared. There will be no “BCS conference” for Boise to worry about getting into, because the "construct" of the BCS no longer exists. And don’t bother with the argument that a reconfigured B/12, without OU and TX, will still get the same slice of the pie the B/12 received when it had OU and Texas. These guys aint that stupid. After all, it is about consolidation and cutting some folks out of the action.
oh hail the Purple and White
I know you believe this very vehmently
But until the BCS is gone that is a reasonable assumption that’ll be around longer than you think.
"It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat! "-Hank Hill
The BCS still exists.
That you don’t want to believe it does doesn’t matter at all.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Yes, and right now the 6 AQ conferences still exist, so what is your point?
Are you really arguing that a cobbled together B/12 and B/East, after massive defections from those two conferences resulting in the formation of 4 sixteen team super conferences, will get the same slice of the pie as before? Yes or no. Is that your argument?
I never said the BCS does not exist at this instant. I said after everything is changed the construct of the BCS won’t exist. Do yourself a favor and look up the noun form definition of “construct.” I’m done on this topic. You are free, if you choose, to view this consolidation thing through the old form of the BCS. Makes you feel better, fine. I’ve just tried to get folks to see that viewing things and congealing public opinion and what is best for K-State around that old concept is probably not a good idea. But I’m glad you set me straight that my “beliefs” about the BCS (as uninformed as they obviously are, in comparison to your VASTLY superior knowledge about these things) “doesn’t matter at all.” And nice of you to be ever so humble, as you always are, about these kind of things.
oh hail the Purple and White
KSB vs Furnance
Is one of the more amusing things about this place.
"It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat! "-Hank Hill
Strange.
First post:
…the “construct” of the BCS no longer exists.
Second post:
I never said the BCS does not exist at this instant. I said after everything is changed the construct of the BCS won’t exist.
Make up your mind. Also, I didn’t claim to know what’s going to happen. All I know is that the BCS exist right now, your claim in the first post notwithstanding.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I don't have a dog in this fight
But come one KSB you can’t pick a small section of what Furnace said and take it as fact. If you read his (I assume) sentences before the part you cherry picked it says " If (when) this thing goes to four conferences of 16 teams". So I believe the implication he was making was that the construct no longer exists If/when there are 4 16 team conferences.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care. (#739)
Furnace76 =
KRichards? Alt’s!! ;-)
Just kidding.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Yes, I have a dual personality! So I can win
my flawless arguments! Gotta love those internets!
oh hail the Purple and White
Regardless, Furnace is missing the whole point of that post
Whether you call it BCS conference, or “big-money” conference, or playoff conference, whatever – the point is that Boise St. will be on the outside of whatever power structure comes along and the best possible league they could end up in would be the B12.
Boise had the advantage of winning
one of the most exciting football games in the last 40 years, with their trick play miracle over Sooner in the Bowl. They are liked nation wide because they are a stand in for the “the bcs is unfair” narrative; they are David vs. Goliath, so they get great rankings, nationawide. KSU, however, when we were at the pinnacle of playing in the National title game in 1998, was painted into the corner of “they don’t deserve this – Snyder did it by scheduling cupcakes” — a narrative that was fueled then, and to this day, by ESPN and the perception managers. It doesn’t help that Snyder almost took delight in saying, back then and now, stuff like “I’m not a big fan of scheduling tough non-con games” and he said that as recently as last year. I’m working on a post on Bill the Great and Bill the bad (when it comes to media skills). Not sure I’ll ever post it. But, we’d be in a better postion in this mess, I think it is fair to say, if HCBS had worked on media relations a little over the last 22 years. And it is part of his job.
One other seldom remembered thing that put us in the doghouse with a lot of (gambling) fans nationally is the 1998 Nebraska game. We had covered the spread in EVERY game prior to that game for the entire season (nine prior games – almost fucking UNHEARD of). We were a 10.5 pt favorite in the NU game. We score the last touchdown to go up by 10, and what does Snyder do? He has Bishop go for two, he doesnt make it. If we have Gramatica kick the extra point, we win by 11 and cover. I’ll just leave it at this: Snyder pissed off some very powerful folks with that move; although it was the tactically correct thing to do as far as winning the game.
oh hail the Purple and White
I don't even see how that is the tactically correct thing to do.
How is 12 any different from 11?
With 11 you need at least one touchdown and either two field goals or one field goal with a two point conversion or another touchdown.
At 12 you only eliminate the possibility to tie the game with a touchdown, two-point conversion and a field goal.
In my opinion the more tactically sound decision would be to take the extra point and force them to try for two (which is statistically less likely to succeed).
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Sep 19, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Time on the clock
I think we scored the 6 points with about a minute on the clock. Snyder said after the game he did it because if we attempt the PAT kick, it is blocked and run all the way back, Nub gets 2 pts. Then we have to kick off. If Nub does score, and get a two point conversion, they can tie the game. With the amount of time that was left, it was the tactically correct thing to do.
oh hail the Purple and White
But Bear Bryant would have taken the 1 point
Bear was always aware of the point spread, and would do anything within his power to “cover.” I used to play golf with a guy who was on the golf team at Alabama. Did he have stories about the Bear.
oh hail the Purple and White
I hope my head coach doesn't pay attention to Vegas lines
Why the hell would he concern himself with anything else not relevant to winning a football game?
If I knew my head football coach paid attention to the Vegas lines each week during game preparation, he’d more than likely be a joker, and if I may quote steve miller band…likely a “midnight toker” as well.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
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