A&M Makes It Official
by Ahearn Alley on Aug 25, 2011 3:03 PM CDT
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PrintThe Aggies have formally asked Dan Beebe what they would have to do to leave the Big 12. Who would you like to see take their place? SMU? Houston? TCU?
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Ideally, Notre Dame, but that's not happening.
I’m pulling for BYU.
For my 4000th comment on SB Nation blogs...
I say screw you A&M. Screw you to hell.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
by mystman995 on Aug 25, 2011 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Oh yeah
I forgot about the Mormans. Good call. Sorry about the double post, folks. I guess we both responded to the boss’s call at the same time. You win this time, BracketCat….
I think InS gets firsts
Collie Worshippers make it official …
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Aug 25, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Right you are
InS, your prize package will be in the mail first thing tomorrow morning…
by Ahearn Alley on Aug 25, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
SMU's call is going straight to voicemail
since the rest of us are already on the other line talking to the SEC, PAC12, BIG10, and Big East…
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
I doubt this very much.
A&M will be paying out the nose to leave, and there’s no real reason for anyone else to leave. Of course, there was no real reason for Chocopockets to leave, other than that between the lot of them, there’s not one full brain to share.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
As I posted on today's Slate comments ...
If they think they’re getting away with the penalty NU and CU negotiated without a fight, they are dreaming. I was good with that then, just to get those two schools out … but this time I’d rather see the BigXII hold out for every dime on this one.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Aug 25, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed.
This should cost aTm a good chunk of change (on top of the amount they’ll be losing by being morons and joining the SEC).
Speaking of losing
The Aggies football team had better get used to doing a lot more of that, and I’ll be loving every one.
by Ahearn Alley on Aug 25, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want the Big 12 to go for blood. I want them to go for marrow.
If they’re going to leave, I want them to go with only the clothes on their backs and financial impediments that prevent them from being competitive in the SEC for the next twenty years.
I want that athletic department obliterated.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
by Panjandrum on Aug 25, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
God, the aTm game this year at BSFS is going to be awesome.
by yeahboozin on Aug 25, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that's the only one I'm going to this year!
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Two things will happen this year...
One, A&M will not win the Big 12. We’ll make sure they get jobbed to the point that won’t happen. For the record, I’m totally on board with this.
Two, we’re going to make them pay that buyout. Come Hell or high water.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Screw that.
Take the damn clothes off their back, and send them to the SEC naked.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Let's hope the conference sends them off like we did to Nebraska
No Big 12 championship and a loss to UT!
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
by mystman995 on Aug 25, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would like to see something different than how we sent off Nebraska
meaning that KSU beats them. And yeah, I guess the stuff you said too. :)
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well true, but they won't be butthurt about a loss to us
But if they lose to UT…
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No
but sending them to the SEC with as bad a record as possible would be pretty swell.
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I want them to go 0-12, 0-9.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Is there any way possible
to finish even worse than that? Like maybe after the winless season, they get slapped with some NCAA infraction for a recruiting scandal or something?
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In the even we do NOT get Notre Dame (most likely)
I like BYU as fast as possible, and then pause for one year and take a good long look at our other options.
However, if TCU is willing to do a 180 to join us and ditch the Big East, and make it public quickly (diverting attention away from the Big-12’s seemingly imminent doom) then I am in favor of moving towards 12, 14 or 16 teams before the year is out.
I think a good compliment to TCU would be bringing in Louisville. They already have a fairly well-developed football program, bring a good market, and further make the Big 12 look like a strong conference and the Big East look more like it is about to implode.
I could go either way on teams to add after that, but in any scenario that involves going to 14 or more teams, I really like bring in UNLV for the long term potential that program has to generate revenue. They wouldn’t be a good immediate grab, because it would scream of desperation, but if we are going all the way to 14 or 16 then I think that they are a good long-term investment.
Then, I am in favor of adding
Would you like some Freys with that?
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Then, I am in favor of adding
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Aug 25, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the letter to Dan Beebe:
Dear Commissioner Beebe:
As you know, the Texas A&M Board of Regents has authorized me to take action relating to Texas A&M University’s (“Texas A&M”) conference alignment. While this letter is not a notice of Texas A&M’s withdrawal from the Big 12 Conference (the “Conference”), we are exploring our options. There has been a great deal of speculation and comment in the media about Texas A&M leaving the Conference, including discussions of other institutions joining the Conference.
If Texas A&M withdraws from the Conference, we want to do so in a way that complies with the Bylaws and is supportive of your efforts to seek a new member of the Conference. We would appreciate your conferring with the other member institutions and outlining for us the process to be followed by Texas A&M should it withdraw from the Conference.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
R. Bowen Loftin
President
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
And here's Dan Beebe's "official" response:
Dear Darla Texas A&M,
I hate your stinking guts. You make me vomit. You’re scum between my toes!
Love,
Alfalfa Dan Beebe
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
by mystman995 on Aug 25, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dear President Bowen:
I conferred with our other member institutions. They collectively agreed that you can go fornicate yourself with a nine-iron.
Sincerely,
J. Dan Beebe
Inventor of Danny Dan Juice
by BracketCat on Aug 25, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
BYU, ND and Houston
Back to 12 and back to a championship game.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Well, I'd prefer a 12 team league for the most part...
But I don’t see that happening for at least another few years.
BYU in the meantime and then when the first-tier rights go back up in 2015, see if adding Air Force and Houston (or whatever combo is available) will give us a good enough ROI to add the championship game back and make us all more money.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Your move, Missouri.
dontbackstabusdontbackstabusdontbackstabusdontbackstabusdontbackstabus
by BracketCat on Aug 25, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I hate to say it
but at this point I really would not blame Missouri for leaving for the SEC/Big 10. Right now the Big 12 has all the stability of Balsa wood stilts.
I highly doubt Mizzou is going anywhere.
The Big 10 doesn’t want them, and the SEC would eat their football program alive.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Maybe I'm smoking some really good stuff, but
tradition aside (which admittedly is a big thing) this is going to work out better for us.
Assuming Conference Armageddon does not begin and we don’t lose BCS conference status (would never happen as long as UT is in the conference) then all I see is sunshine in our options:
Option 1:
By some miracle the 0.00001% ND decides to join and the Big 12 suddenly is the conference in college sports. Way better sports programs and a lot more money than currently.
Option 2:
Bring on a solid program – BYU, Air Force, TCU, Louisville. I’m not saying this out of butthurt (though ‘98 still does hurt), but aside from that dreadful victory over our Cats, aTm has done hardly anything in the past 15 years. One conference championship, one bowl win. And aside from the Acie Law years, a thoroughly solid but not great basketball program. Yes, I’d give aTm the edge over the four mentioned above, but it’s not by a whole lot and there’s no reason to think with the benefits of being in the Big 12 they won’t catch up and perhaps surpass where aTm is today pretty quickly.
Option 3:
Bring in some undeniably lower tier program: Houston, SMU, Colorado St, etc. Guess what? KSU’s chance at making it to a big bowl game and the NCAA tournament every year just improved. I’m not giving aTm all that much credit (ahem 62-14 ahem). We can beat them every year, but they’re not as easy an out every year. But besides having to deal with pundits who’d crap on the quality of the conference, there’s not much downside to bringing in a geographically convenient program whose inferior football and basketball teams would only make KSU’s chances at success every year higher.
Call me crazy. But I’m not panicking here. Good riddance, Chocos. Looking forward to receiving that exit check from you and noticing your losses on the bottom line of the screen when the SEC section scrolls across after we’ve already seen the Top 25 team updates.
I think we can safely remove TCU nad Louisville from any list.
The conversations between Beebe and that dude from the Big East were probably about us not going after any Big East schools should A&M leave.
I think our choices, in order, are ND, BYU, Air Force, Houston. We’re going to get pushed hard by the Texas legislature to elevate another Texas school to BCS status. Houston is the most logical choice for a lot of reasons if that’s where it goes.
If I were a betting man, it’s going to be BYU or Houston. My gut says Houston.
My gut says that we announce the addition of BYU and Air Force shortly before first tier TV negotiations in 2015.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
With all due respect, Pan
Why should Beebe and the Big-12 stand down before the demands of the Big Least? What good have gentlemen’s agreements done our conference? Everyone has been poaching from the Big-12; I think right now its open warfare. Louisville jumps to the top of the queue, after Notre Dame and BYU. You don’t like it John Marinatto? Tough $#it. No more nice guy(s). Look at what its gotten us.
Time to think of returning to a 12-team conference, with BYU the most logical invite (assuming ND just laughs in our faces). An invite to the Cougars should be followed by moving west (Air Force, Nevada, New Mexico, Boise or Colorado State), or east (Louisville, Memphis), remaining in Texas (Houston, TCU) or any combination of the three. I don’t see staying at 10 as a good option unless the 10th is Notre Dame; not with A&M jumping to the SEC and likely triggering expansion efforts in the Big-10 and Pac-12.
Ain't no honor amongst thieves, Pan.
If we can get TCU and Louisville, by stabbing the Big East in the back, I say go for it.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
SMU wants in the Big 12!
I posted this link in the daily links thread but it makes more sense here:
Ubben posted this
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/smu-mustangs/20110825-smu-makes-public-its-desire-to-join-big-12-or-another-bcs-conference.ece
I found their lists of reason why their attractive downright hilarious.
They might be able to expand their staduim to 40,000 (32,000 now, avg. attendence 23,00)
They recently ended an almost 30 yr bowl drought. I’d be trying to hide that if I were them.
I don't think they will. A&M will be a net gain, financially, for the SEC eventually due to getting them into the Texas market.
The trick is going to find a 14th member that isn’t a net loss from a pool of schools that the SEC member institutions are willing to accept.
That’s going to be the rabble rabble peas and carrots peas and carrots conversation.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Not happening
Unless A&M is really as stupid as Panjandrum has portrayed them in the Adventures of the Big 12 Series, there’s no way they would have sent Beebe that letter before getting confirmation that the SEC would be willing to accept them.
This is all legal mumbo jumbo to prevent the SEC from getting sued.
A&M has to play this like they were the ones that completely and totally instigated this. This is a withdrawl-then-join scenario.
I’m not a lawyer, but with all of this smoke, I have to think there’s a small chance we might be able to get the SEC on something. Very, very, very small, but a one in a million chance nonetheless.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
Oh, I think there will be a big BIG lawsuit in the future.
This was blatant tampering, no matter how much the SEX conference tries to hide it.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
Every one is missing the big picture
There will be no lawsuits; there will be no blood (or marrow). This is all playing out according to THE PLAN. All this strum and drang – wasted energy.
Some things have been revealed to me. But they must be posted at an appropriat hour (like, 2 or 3 a.m.)
But I can tell you what the title of the revelation was, to wit: “Beergut and The Stoned Ape Theory of Evolution.”
Get up early – it is NSFW!
Cheers!
oh hail the Purple and White
Is this the same "The Plan" that predicted that Frank's exit to Miami was a foregone conclusion?
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
But I was right about Missouri getting double crossed
and Tiger is pissed. And yes – it is all part of the same plan – Shapiro was the speed bump.
oh hail the Purple and White
Someone else said it before
But I think Shapiro is the reason Frank definitely doesn’t go to Miami…at least not for a long time from now.
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's just a tit for tat replacement
I say TCU to get to 10. If the objective is 12, then I’d like to see whatever I could get from the following:
1. ND
2. Arkansas, so the Aggies have no old rivalries to recesitate
post pipe-dream selections
3. Air Force (with a clause that Wallerstedt has to d-coordinate KSU when the move)
4. BYU (I struggle a bit with how backwoods bible belt Okies and Ozarkers will deal with Mormans LDSA )
5. New Mexico (for the Pit, and to elevate their status)…I can hear them firing off their “guns up” in Lubbock already, a road trip under eleventybillion miles within the conference…but population wise the state of Arkansas and some alumni in Memphis is a whole lot more people than the state of New Mexico
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Why stay in Texas
What advantage does adding another Texas school give us (other than appeasing more arrogant Texans).
I say eff them. Go for BYU, Memphis, Looovul, UNLV… pretty much any other media market than Texass.
I would think
that the UT fan base pretty much brings in tv sets from every part of Texas. The conference doesn’t need the school based in every major city in Texas to say they have captured the market in that city does it?
I agree, if this thing is going to lead to conference members that make no sense (like TCU in the Big East) then the Big 12 may as well get schools where we have ZERO presence now.
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree - no more Texas schools
unless it is Kilgore College – and we want them for the Rangerettes!
oh hail the Purple and White
So, you know I had to look them up
I read the history (just the first paragraph)…The Rangerettes are really the first ever group to do choreographed stuff during halftime of a football game?
by Jeremy Sharp on Aug 25, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
definitely no more Texas schools
no need to add another Texas patsy to the UT voting bloc.
I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.
In order
ND
Arkansas
BYU
If you can’t get one or all of them go get New Mexico AZ and ASU and get back to 12.
If/when all that goes to hell look at the TCU/Houston/Louisville/Memphises of the world.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Beergut is persistent, I'll give him that.
He seems very determined to prove once and for all that Chocopockets is more than just an analogy. It’s who he really is.
Improve every day. (Read it again. It has more meaning than what you first see.)
You want to read a story about Beergut
go over to the fanposts. I stayed up very late to finish the little ditty. A little different take on this madness in college football.
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/8/26/2385656/beergut-and-the-stoned-ape-theory-of-evolution
oh hail the Purple and White
Over at the Houston Chronicle
Jerome Solomon takes it to the Ag-tards (with a link to his original article via this blog post). I think you can throw out facts and logic regarding the move and just chalk it all down to emotion.
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