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Yesterday was an entertaining day in non-K-State college football. The NCAA gave Ohio State notice of allegationsrelating to Jim Tressel's cover-up of major violations. Documents obtained by the Columbus Dispatchshow that Tressel lied when he said he didn't notify anyone of the violations when he learned of them; in fact, he contacted quite a few people, but nobody in Ohio State's athletic department or university administration. Meanwhile, Dr. Saturday assesses how bad the NCAA pain could be for Ohio State.

Nine of the 11 NCAA panel members who will judge whether the Fiesta Bowl's transgressions are serious enough to justify pulling the NCAA's license took part in the "Fiesta Frolic," which included free hotels and golf, among other things.

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Nine of the 11 NCAA panel members who will judge whether the Fiesta Bowl’s transgressions are serious enough to justify pulling the NCAA’s license took part in the “Fiesta Frolic,” which included free hotels and golf, among other things.

The NCAA is a complete and utter hypocritical joke. And I’m starting to care less and less about making certain that the bowls don’t go away in potential playoff scenarios.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 26, 2011 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

bowls are gone

This was one bowl, wonder what would be found if the other bowls were audited?

Bowls made sense when travel was more difficult and broadcasting the games was more of a challenge.

Today a play off makes more sense.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 26, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right

What gets me about these situations anymore is that everyone knows it’s a hypocritical joke and yet it continues. More and more people seem to be ok with this type of shit. Does honesty and transparency mean nothing anymore? Guess as a simple farm boy I just will never change.

Bitchslapping Texas since 1997

by mjk7166 on Apr 26, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, they don't mean a thing

All that matters is getting paid, and getting your underlings paid too.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

So Drano bombs aren't cool anymore?

Sorry. I’ll take those back. There’s a mailbox down the street I can store it in. Keep your damn mutt off my yard.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.

by BlackCats on Apr 26, 2011 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Basketball team gets two JUCO commits.

A much needed and highly recruited PG in Jeremy Jones and James Watson, former Washington State player (had 6 points against us as a freshman), who will provide needed frontcourt depth but who I at least don’t have very high expectations for.

The real question now is who is leaving over the summer. Assuming Angel signs, we need to free up two scholarships for the JUCOs. I’d imagine two of Nick, Myles, and Irving are the most likely departure candidates.

It’s funny – I don’t mind the signings. We need a PG and we need another big. But running guys off after two years to be replaced by guys who will only play two years and don’t have experience in the system doesn’t seem like a sustainable model. Having been a driver of the Nick Russell Bandwagon, I just want to keep this thing alive, but don’t have much hope.

by yeahboozin on Apr 26, 2011 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

In Frank I still trust, but this bugs me

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's 100% Myles and at least 90% Russell ...

as far as the chances they will be transferring.

Irving is a constant. A steady veteran who, while having not much ceiling, is still a useful presence in games and in the locker room with no downside.

I didn’t think there was any way our staff wanted to go into next year with a froncourt consisting of only Samuels, JHR, Gipson, and Diaz.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Apr 26, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we need another big, which Watson provides.

What’s even stranger is to consider how if Wally and Freddy stayed there’d still be a need to send two guys packing.

After all the one-and-done JUCOs under Frank, I’m amazed he’s able to not only get more, but get the best one he’s ever signed in Jones. Pretty excited about him (or as much as you can be over a JUCO).

Here’s the roster as I see it:

Walk ons:
Vic
Peterson

Definitely on roster:
Gipson
Diaz
Omari
Watson
Jones
Angel (as long as he signs)

Would be shocking:
Jamar
Rod
JHR
Spradling
Southwell

Would be surprising:
Nino

Remaining departure candidates:
Nick
Myles
Irving

Of those three I agree that Nick and Canada are the two most likely. But Myles seems to really like it here and showed some grit last season. Who knows – maybe all will stick around and two will be on academic scholarship? Two can afford to be walk-ons and don’t want to sit out a transfer year? Eh, who am I kidding. It’s been fun Nick Russell Bandwagon mates.

by yeahboozin on Apr 26, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nino ain't leaving.

I don’t how you can judge Canada’s grit when he played the least minutes of any player. He made virtually no impression on me. Word is the coaches were pretty disappointed when he actually got on campus and they saw him in live practice. But that’s the risk you run in today’s age of recruiting, when coaches have very limited opportunities to get to know these players and get a feel for their game.

by BracketCat on Apr 26, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think Nino is leaving either.

And am very excited to see him play. But he has the most basketball left to play so tranfering now for him is less arduous than the other guys.

Canada hit some big FTs, seemed to really be invested, and just based on demeanor seemed to enjoy being on the team. He certainly wasn’t great when he played, but he wasn’t terrible either. It’s possible they were disappointed. Not sure what they were expecting from him.

by yeahboozin on Apr 26, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I look at Jones as a replacement for Russell/Myles and Watson as a replacement for Judge.

That means we actually downsized the junior class by one scholarship, which will make for better long-term balance.

Although this year’s team will be a little more veteran than last year’s, it’s still pretty young, with four freshmen and three sophomores. But you have to like our chances with five juniors and three seniors, with only one of the latter on scholarship.

by BracketCat on Apr 26, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad pun alert!

Bad pun alert!

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two 19 year olds from Putnam have been arrested

They have been arrested on felony charges.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I got an email on my KSU account to that effect.

Those kids just screwed up a lot of stuff in their lives.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 26, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope the Brown brothers are worth all this hype...

Winter is coming, but Summer will rip your jugular out if you step out of line.

by ChrisP Wildcat on Apr 26, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not worried if they're not, what does KSU have to lose?

Arthur might be good, but we all know Cosh can’t coach so he’s probably up a creek. Bryce might be fantastic, but he’ll need an O-line (thanks GT for the post on that) and a QB to open things up.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Klein wins the starting job and is a badass passer

I personally claim credit for improving his passing game. It was all me! He never would have had the drive to be a better passer if I hadn’t doubted him!

Seriously, though, I hope Klein wins the starting job and is awesome next season. I like him and want nothing but the best for him. I don’t know so much about Tuggle, so I don’t have as strong a motivation to root for him.

Winter is coming, but Summer will rip your jugular out if you step out of line.

by ChrisP Wildcat on Apr 26, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want a situation where one of them grabs the position and doesn't let go

This QB derby every year is getting really old.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like it better now that neither player is named Carson Coffman, though. :)

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 26, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Webb

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Marc Dunn

In all seriousness though, Snyder had a tough time picking between Bishop & Beasly Bishop’s first year. Bishop’s first three or four games he never completed more than 9 passes, and for sure pulled him in way early in at least one of those three games. So no matter who you got, Snyder’s always going to lead the most likely No. 2 believe that it’s still wide open. As he says, he doesn’t want to put a limit on anyone’s capabilities.

The good news here, is that the athleticism in the current qb battle is better than last year, which was better than the year before. I suspect 2011, to be the last season for the revolving door for a starter and not near as inconsistent in years past. I see like 1 switch from Klein to Tuggle about 3 or 4 games in and then never look back. Regardless I feel a lot better this year than last.

"Nor yet in Dell?"

by GTcat on Apr 26, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 27, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then this quote should make you nervous...
“He’s letting the ball go,” said junior receiver Chris Harper. “Last year he was kind of hesitant. Now he’s letting it go, trying to make some throws that Carson would make.”

Made me laugh/cry when I read it.

by yeahboozin on Apr 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the same thing myself

You’re in good company.

As a thrower CC had his decent moments. It was was a runner that he was awful. Klein would probably get at least 4 yards on CC’s patented “change the play to short side option for 2 yards”.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Apr 26, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

fixed that for you

As a thrower CC had his decent moments. It was was a runner that he was awful. Klein would probably get at least 4 yards on CC’s patented change the play to short side option for
-2 yards.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 26, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feeling is mutual ...

But I think what Harper was trying to get at was that Klein had a set of handcuffs on him last year (whether he gave them to himself or the coach did) and if he had any doubt whatsoever about a throw, he wouldn’t attempt it and would tuck it and scramble.

Hopefully, the times when Klein has doubts about this throw or that are becoming much more infrequent. Of course, executing the throw after making the right decision is another story.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's going to need to be willing to throw more.

We need that threat to keep the defenses honest at the very least.

by yeahboozin on Apr 26, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that is all we're looking for I say pull for Tuggle...

At least he can throw the ball 50+ yards from what I hear, and is a more nimble runner. Nothing against Klein, but to be honest I’ve seen that show and it left me wanting.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Apr 26, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get this attitude toward Klein.

How have you “seen that show”? Snyder never turned him loose last year. The one game where he got significant minutes, he embarrassed Texas.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 26, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't need to.

And was never given much of a chance thereafter, even when Coffman wasn’t very good. I may never forgive Snyder for the Missouri game.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 26, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't forgive him for the Missouri game, either...

…but the point was that, even though Klein embarrassed Texas, he didn’t thereby prove that he could throw the ball. And the ability to throw the ball was the point of the whole discussion.

Klein may well be able to throw, but we haven’t seen it yet.

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Bring On The Cats

by TB on Apr 26, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's what I was responding to:
Nothing against Klein, but to be honest I’ve seen that show and it left me wanting.

This seemed like irrational Klein hate—especially given that Tuggle was not any better as a passer in juco last year, with a LOT more chances.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

And embarrassing Texas

Was a noteworthy achievement last year?

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The user formerly known as EMAWrising

by MeatGeek on Apr 26, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not as much last year...

But it was pretty awesome, even though they got embarrassed by just about everyone not named Nebraska.

"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising

by MeatGeek on Apr 27, 2011 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

But no one thoroughly depantsed them like Klein and DT did last year.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

UCLA?

But all kidding aside that was the most glorious shellacking I have seen in awhile, well besides that flukey blowout of A&M.

"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising

by MeatGeek on Apr 27, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, the current reports are this arm strength might be suspect.

And that’s what’s holding him back, along with unfamiliarity with our system.

It certainly would explain all the JUCO INTs.

by BracketCat on Apr 27, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

And the generally lack of accuracy in Juco as well.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Men's Golf

finishes the Big 12 Championship tied for last in case you were dying to know…

Granted, the team was really young this year, but its got to be time for Tim Norris to hit the road. With a course like Colbert, this team should be competitive every year to finish in the top half of the conference.

by gw1754 on Apr 26, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish we had room for this guy.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 27, 2011 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

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