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BRACKET BLOG: Final Four (NCAA Open Thread)

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Once again, this BRACKET BLOG also will serve as an open discussion thread for today's Final Four games. Game previews follow after the jump.

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The Final Four

No. 3 Connecticut (30-9) vs. No. 4 Kentucky (29-8)
April 2 | 7:49 p.m. CST | Houston | CBS
Jim Nantz | Clark Kellogg | Steve Kerr

How They Got Here:
No. 3 UConn 65, No. 5 Arizona 63
No. 4 Kentucky 76, No. 2 UNC 69

One month ago, it didn't appear as if either of these teams would be capable of winning a single NCAA Tournament game — much less reaching the Final Four.

Both teams, as teams so dependent on freshmen tend to do, suffered mid-season swoons in conference play, especially in road games. Kentucky, in particular, had an almost Missouri-like road record.

But UConn's freshman stepped up big in the Big East Tournament and beyond, and Jim Calhoun has performed a masterful coaching job in selecting the proper go-to freshman for the proper game. That's allowed superstar Kemba Walker to flourish now that he longer bears the entire weight of the program upon his back.

Meanwhile, Kentucky's resurgence was twofold. Even as freshman studs Terrence Jones and Doron Lamb began to take a step back as prominent scorers, fellow freshman Brandon Knight and an unheralded bench-warmer from last season's Elite Eight team, Josh Harrellson, stepped up to fill the void.

Harrellson has been the revelation of this tourney, as far as I'm concerned. He's playing like a man possessed, way beyond his talent level. He's this year's Brian Zoubek and he's making John Calipari look like an even better coach than he is.

Both teams have momentum and talent. UConn has the superstar and the more recent Final Four experience, but Kentucky is the favorite and the more celebrated program all-time. One thing's for sure: Whichever team wins will become a national villain, except in its home state, for Monday night's showdown with Cinderella.

GAMER: Kentucky 68, UConn 66
Pomeroy: Kentucky 70, UConn 68
Sagarin: Kentucky 68, UConn 67

 

No. 8 Butler (27-9) vs. No. 11 Virginia Commonwealth (28-11)
April 2 | 5:09 p.m. CST | Houston | CBS
Jim Nantz | Clark Kellogg | Steve Kerr

How They Got Here:
No. 8 Butler 74, No. 2 Florida 71 (OT)
No. 11 VCU 71, No. 1 Kansas 61

Speaking of the Cinderella semifinal, what an unusual position Butler finds itself in. Last year's darling, for the first time since it began that storied run, is the favorite today.

A new siren has stolen America's heart this season: The VCU Rams.

The suddenly en fuego team from one of the nation's two commonwealths (Kentucky is the other) has downed power conference team after power conference team with a 1-2 punch of 3-point shooting and an almost maniacal, ever-shifting press/match-up zone defense.

But how will the Rams fare now that they're everyone's favorite BracketBuster? And how will they summon the same enthusiasm when they face a bigger, more experienced version of themselves?

Make no mistake: Butler won't be distracted by the bright lights of Houston. The Bulldogs got all of this out of their system last year, and they're here solely for a business trip.

Brad Stevens has had almost a week to game-plan for this one, which I think is a bad sign for VCU. That plan likely will involve refusing to run at the Rams' pace, something Bill Self couldn't seem to figure out was an unwise idea.

If Butler is successful at slowing down the game until it feels like it's being played in mud, I think it will win.

GAMER: Butler 69, VCU 65
Pomeroy: Butler 69, VCU 68
Sagarin: Butler 67, VCU 66

Poll
Who will play for the 2011 national championship?
Butler and Kentucky
6 votes
Butler and UConn
4 votes
Kentucky and VCU
3 votes
UConn and VCU
5 votes

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How long until that scum ball Calipari has to vacate yet another final four?

3 years? 4 years? How long until Calhoun is shoved out the door for also being a dirt bag? How many more years will Smart and Stevens be coaches at speed-bump Us?

Can you tell I really could care less about this final four?

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Apr 2, 2011 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow. I couldn't feel differently.

Butler’s back-to-back Final Fours are one of the greatest stories in the last decade or more of college basketball. VCU’s run from the “First Four” to having a legit shot at a championship is unprecedented. The job Calipari has done this year with a group of untested freshman and afterthought upperclassmen has been impressive, as has UConn’s 9 game run here at the end of the year. This Final Four has a ton of subplots, and I can’t wait to see how they all play out.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

A story

on foxsports.com saying an assistant to basketball ops at both memphis and kentucky had illeagal contact with recruits.
Another story about an ex UConn recruit and improper benefits, so there is a good chance this years champ could have to vacate.

by Bestofthewest on Apr 2, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didnt the Kentucky Prez

Go on record saying something like – this banner wont have to come down. Pretty bold statement since all Calipari’s others have

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Apr 2, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really REALLY dislike Mark Emmert.

In talking about the success of the NCAA Basketball Tournament this year, he actually made the following comment:

“We have one group to thank for that, in particular, and that’s the Men’s Basketball Committee.”

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Completely.

The selection of VCU, UAB, and USC over more deserving teams (and yes, I still don’t think VCU deserved a bid over Va Tech, or almost any of the bubble teams left out, though I’ve enjoyed their run) was just the tip of the iceberg. The biggest lunacy was the seeding. Even our own seed mystified me, as I thought we’d be a 6 or a 7 at best. But it often seemed like they just threw a bunch of teams in a hopper and pulled them out.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for UConn and VCU. The unstoppable man vs. the unstoppable team.

Could be pretty epic.

Bring on the Cats
"If there was a run on us, and the crowd gets goin' nuts, what are we going to do? How are we going to respond? How tough are we? Do we have some Jacob Pullen in us?" - Jimmy Dykes

by Panjandrum on Apr 2, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm calling it right now:

Butler 67 VCU 53.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah

Butler 73 VCU 71
1 OT
last second shot.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think VCU is due to cool.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could listen to Brad Stevens talk all day long.

That guy is brilliant.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Stevens is using the force on KSB now.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Apr 2, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aggies @ BatCats

 on Fox MW

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

We dug ourselves a 3-0 hole in the second inning...

…but are showing some signs of perhaps being able to dig out of it.

We’ve already stranded three runners on base, though. Can’t do that crap against the No. 5 team in the nation.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds like injuries w/ frosh having to play

It was nice to have Clark as the color on the broadcast.

3 innings was about all I could handle.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now tied 3-3. Bottom of the 8th

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Apr 2, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have left eight fracking runners on base.

We could be winning this solidly if we were just a little better at getting guys over the plate.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's been one thing or another the entire conference season.

A play here, a play there, and the guys would’ve been 4-3 or 5-2 coming into today.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, and they did it again today.

Had it tied in the ninth inning. Should have pulled Allen out of the Shark Tank to finish it off. Reynolds chose to ride Marshall, and immediately after meeting with him, Marshall gives up the winning run. Sheesh.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this is like the basketball season,

and the guys turn it around. But right now, it’s looking REAL bleak at 15-11, 1-7.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe how bad Butler looks right now.

With 6 days to prepare, this is the last thing I would have expected a Brad Stevens-coached team to look like. They’re letting VCU dictate the pace and taking some really poor shots, just like KU did.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

to many tv shows and not enough practice??

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Apr 2, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Butler vs VCU

I am just very disinterested in the game. I have it on but not really even watching it. Wonder if it has something to do with watching Pullen play yesterday and not getting to today….

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Apr 2, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry to hear it.

This game fascinates me. But then, watching Brad Stevens coach always fascinates me.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+2.87

Because Brad Stevens is WAY too smart to only get a +1.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he did the Jedi thing again today.

With nine minutes left, Howard goes out with four fouls.

At that point, VCU should have pounded it in to Skeen every possession and put Smith and Marshall in foul trouble.

I don’t think Skeen touched it again until that almost four-point play. Instead, VCU was content to jack up jump shots and have other, inferior players attempt layups that they missed most of the time.

“These are not the shots you’re looking for…” (waves hand, adjusts glasses)

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did we say he was?

Wasn’t it a Jedi ninja church assassin or something like that? Whatever he is, the dude could name his price if he was actually willing to leave Butler.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now Bracket is under the influence of Stevens...

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Apr 2, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure both BC and I have been Stevens's Padawans for awhile now! :)

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish it would've ended 70-59.

Then my 67-53 prediction would have looked smart.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I missed on the OT

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And on it being a super-close game... :p

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still hoping it was the real NC game.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a very awkward walkoff coach's interview.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Calhoun (when asked what they need to do in the second half): "Keep playing the same defense, but add rebounding to it."

Chick: “How do you do that?”
Calhoun (with big fake smile): “Get the ball off the backboard.”
[Calhoun walks away, and the camera immediately catches that “smile” turning into a scowl.]

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me, Butler just looks like a better team than either UConn or Kentucky.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

better coached at least

UConn/Kentucky probably have better athletes. I’ll take the Jedi Master Coach.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think Stevens could do the old Bear Bryant thing: take his’n, and beat their’n, or their’n and beat his’n.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're certainly smarter.

They don’t do stupid things to beat themselves.

Both of these team have had enough brain farts to fill a stadium.

If Butler’s ever going to win a championship, this is the year. Neither of these teams is close to Duke last year.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Now is their time. And that could be the problem. If they tighten up and don’t play their game, UConn is athletic enough to beat them.But if this comes down to Stevens versus Calhoun, Butler will win.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

the way Butler is coached

I’d bet money on ’em to beat UConn.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coke Zero commercials are lame.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

name one commercial that isn't, that has been broadcast during the tournament.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 2, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Etrade.

I laugh at those talking baby commercials every time.

“Let me show you my shocked face. Huuaaagh!”

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually find a couple of theirs funny.

I also love the Subaru commercial, with the dad and daughters.

by WillieWannabe on Apr 3, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those Subaru ones are heartstring-tuggers, for certain.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 3, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

When did Hootie become a country singer?!?

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Or Rihanna?

Country music long ago jumped the shark. Now the shark is devouring its carcass.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I really like Brad Paisley, and a couple of others.

They do REAL country music, which I still like.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would definitely put George Strait in that category too.

I’m not a big country music fan, but I have no problems with his music.

by AMS on Apr 3, 2011 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was just a strange thing to see on that commercial, that's all.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 3, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a commercial for the CMAs.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 3, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahh, that makes sense.

I think ACM’s are tonight. As a country nerd, i will be watching.

by WillieWannabe on Apr 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roll call - how many BOTCers like country?

I do
KSU
WW

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Apr 3, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That depends.

There are a few country artists I really like, but even more that I don’t. Paisley and Alison Krauss are my favorites as far as male and female artists go. I was in heaven when they put out “Whiskey Lullaby.”

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 3, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

if by country you mean the good country then yes.

If you mean the 70’s pop music under the country label … no.
Alison Krauss is great.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Apr 3, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a mixed bag for me

But I’m really more of a rock guy.

I can’t stand Big’n’Rich or whoever the hell sings that damn “Ride a Cowboy” song.

Forward into Battle

by ChrisP Wildcat on Apr 4, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

What’s sad is, their albums have some really good stuff on it, but there’s also some bad shit. Hit and miss, but their hits are top notch, imo. “Save a Horse” was a bad deal for them actually.

by WillieWannabe on Apr 4, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate Ride a Cowboy and Coming to your City

But I really like 8th of November, Lost in this Moment, and Holy Water.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Apr 4, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I could give them another shot

I mean, not everyone can be like CAKE and not have a single bad song in them. ;-)

But songs like “Save a Horse” are why I largely ignore modern country.

Songs like “Whiskey Lullaby”, though, I could listen to all day. Well, probably not, because I would get too depressed, but you get my point.

Forward into Battle

by ChrisP Wildcat on Apr 4, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't listen to WL at all, I get too depressed

I could also do without the current songs where a chick says “I should kill you and do the world a favor” or the song about some guy praying his ex gets killed. Those are just wrong.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Apr 4, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it started with a Burger King commercial. Seriously.

For the tendercrisp bacon cheddar ranch chicken sandwich.

by AMS on Apr 3, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

i remember that. Before he even released a country album, crazy.

by WillieWannabe on Apr 3, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if VCU had played one UConn or Kentucky tonight,

and Butler had played the other, we’d have had an all-Cinderella final on Monday night.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun fact: Both Butler and UConn won holiday tournaments in Hawai'i this season.

Butler won the Diamond Head Classic and UConn won the Maui Invitational.

by BracketCat on Apr 2, 2011 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

TLC is like a freaking porno channel tonight.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Annnnnnddddd...

Kate Gosselin is back! Joy.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

FTR, Kate Gosselin has nothing to do with why TLC is like a porno channel tonight.

There’s some woman claiming that she has the ability to “think off” her way to an orgasm—and that she’s able to teach others to do it.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh god!

Now it’s a story about a 73 year old woman who’s getting busy with a 33 year old man! Barf! But I can’t stop watching for some reason!

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 2, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so disappointed with TLC, and History, and A&E

When I was growing up those channels only had good, educational, TV. Now you have some slut with too many kids, Pawn Stars, and Dawg. WTF happened?

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Apr 3, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

Don’t sweat it.

Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.

by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 3, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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