BIG 12 TOURNAMENT OUTLOOK: 03.09.11 (Open Game Thread)
by BracketCat on Mar 9, 2011 9:00 AM CST
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PrintAs I mentioned in the most recent BIG 12 OUTLOOK, feel free to use this entry as a live discussion thread today.
I'll try to pop in throughout the day, but a BlackBerry Curve only can do so much — and I've got basketball to watch, dammit.
Follow the jump for some predictions and brief, thoroughly pedantic analysis.
Note: All of today's games will air on the Big 12 Network.
11:30 a.m.: No. 8 Nebraska vs. No. 9 Oklahoma State
- BracketCat: Nebraska 65, Oklahoma State 62
- GAMER: Nebraska 62, Oklahoma State 61
- Pomeroy: Nebraska 64, Oklahoma State 59
- Sagarin: Nebraska 70, Oklahoma State 67
All the experts agree this likely will be a low-scoring, defensive affair. That's Nebraska's stock in trade and it's not like Oklahoma State really has the weapons to object. The Cornhuskers won their only meeting this year 65-54.
Of course, having said that, watch the two of them get into a corn-fueled shootout at Eskimo Joe's.
One thing we do know is that Nebraska is a desperate team, being the furthest away of the Big 12 bubble teams from the sweet spot (if you believe Joe Lunardi).
Which is why, even though I think OSU will give a game effort, I expect Doc Sadler's boys to find a way to win a close game and advance to take their requisite beating tomorrow.
2 p.m.: No. 5 Colorado vs. No. 12 Iowa State
- BracketCat: Colorado 79, Iowa State 76
- GAMER: Colorado 76, Iowa State 71
- Pomeroy: Colorado 79, Iowa State 76
- Sagarin: Colorado 82, Iowa State 80
The theme of "departing traitor school versus land-grant loyalist" continues with this intriguing pairing.
Did I say "intriguing?" I meant "dreary." Only the prospect of a repeat of last week's 95-90 turbocharged Cyclones win has me enthused at all about this game.
While I'm sure some will say that Hilton Magic-infused result means Iowa State can become the third consecutive No. 12 seed to win its opener when I personally am in attendance at Sprint Center, let's get real.
Colorado is a desperate team, similar to Nebraska, and it simply has more offensive weapons if it ever decides to get serious about playing defense.
The Buffs should roll in this one, as they did in the first meeting (95-69), and I hope they do, because I want payback tomorrow afternoon.
6 p.m.: No. 7 Baylor vs. No. 10 Oklahoma
- BracketCat: Baylor 68, Oklahoma 62
- GAMER: Baylor 68, Oklahoma 61
- Pomeroy: Baylor 68, Oklahoma 62
- Sagarin: Baylor 69, Oklahoma 63
Ooh, boy, this should be fun. The team that plays like a discombobulated AAU squad versus the fairly untalented roster that has its athletic director wondering why Texas Tech beat him to the punch in the Billy Clyde Sweepstakes.
The Bears and the Sooners split the regular-season series, with the Bible Aggies winning 74-61 in Waco and the Land Thieves securing a 73-66 victory in Norman.
Both teams are rather allergic to defense, so this should be a fairly entertaining game for the innocent bystander.
And both coaches tend to be, shall we say, dullards at times, so expect at least one laugh-inducing brain fart from each bench at some point in the game.
Really, on the tournament's opening day, what else can you ask for?
8:30 p.m.: No. 6 Missouri vs. No. 11 Texas Tech
- BracketCat: Missouri 85, Texas Tech 72
- GAMER: Missouri 79, Texas Tech 67
- Pomeroy: Missouri 86, Texas Tech 74
- Sagarin: Missouri 90, Texas Tech 75
Gee, did Missouri have a sweet draw or what?
What kind of punishment is a non-top four seed when you get to play a team with a lame-duck coach, followed by a team that even NASA physicists have examined and cannot explain how it got to 10-6 in Big 12 play?
Of course, Mizzou didn't exactly steamroll the Red Raiders in Columbia a few weeks ago. In fact, the Tigers had to hold on at the end for a 92-84 win. And they aren't exactly on a roll right now, having dropped three straight.
Plus, if anyone can find a way to screw up a winnable Big 12 Tournament game, it's Mike Anderson, he of the two opening-round losses to Nebraska teams with inferior talent in the last four tourneys.
Stick around for this one. It could become interesting.
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Another year, another bye.
While we haven’t won any conference championships, we have been the 2nd most consistent team in the Big 12 over the past 5 seasons.
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I forgot what it's like to play on Wed.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
It's kind of like playing on Thursday
except the other team is as refreshed as you are.
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I want Colorado also
to pay them back with a hefty beating tomorrow! That way even if we lose to KU, the likely 5 or 6 seed would have us in a good position to make a run.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Enough of these negative vibes about "if we lose to KU."
It aint gonna happen. The thought should never cross your mind. Cease with that crap! It’s time for us to know we’re gonna kick the dirty bird’s ass. Regularly, frequently, and with great FUN involved in doing so!
oh hail the Purple and White
by Furnace76 on Mar 9, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This season, above any in the last 20 years ...
We should expect to be in a knock-down, drag-out, back-alley brawl with ku on a neutral court. And win it.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Even over last year (imo) ...
Because ku just isn’t that great this year.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Preach on, you two! Preach on!
I haven’t felt this confident about our prospects against KU since I was 13 years old.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
+100. Kudos to the back alley brawl reference
This is the mind set we, as a fanbase, need to internalize. I guarantee you the guys on the team pick up on these vibes; they will start to internalize the idea that we are going to start beating KU. Enough of that “we respect them” garbage. Screw KU.
oh hail the Purple and White
Apparently you didn't see KUGrad's post this morning
lol
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
What did he post?
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Here
is the thread where the post I believe WW to be referencing in this comment…
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Well, THAT was an interesting exchange.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
you would be correct.
I figured it would have happened sooner than it did.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
lol
Actually I despise KU because they were arrogant asses way before they started killing us in basketball (and we killed them in football).
My first exposure, at least that I remember, is from 1986 when they (KU) would not talk to us despite sharing an equipment trailer but 2 national universities teams were really cool and had good conversations with them. Is it an accurate memory maybe, maybe not … but it does confirm the stereotype 8-D
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
You missed my point, to a degree
Its not so much about respect, I’m not really expecting KState fans to go “wow I sure respect those Jayhawks!” I was objecting to the “KU fans brag too much” angle being played.
My points were:
1)stop bitching about KU fans being arrogant when we have somewhat of a right to be, given our recent success (especially in league play) and
2) KState set itself up for some of the grief KU fans give it after all the crap we got for the Bucknell and Bradley embarrassments. When the title and league dominance kept going, we had a chip on our shoulder after that. When people starting wearing Bucknell shirts (seriously, come. on.) and bringing it up all the time… we got mad Sonny Corleone in Godfather Part One style.
If that makes sense. I think the post came off a lot more volatile than I meant it to… but hey, more fun that way right?
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
I've dealt with arrogant KU fans for a lot of years.
It didn’t start with being teased about Bradley and Bucknell. Even when I was a little kid, back before Hawk fans even HAD anything to brag about, a lot of KU fans I knew seemed very uppity to my 12 year old self.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Its all perspective
When I moved to Kansas all I heard was KState fans talking about how amazing its football team was. And Mizzou fans… talking… about something.
Sure, a lot of KU fans are ridiculous, but there are plenty of those with every fan base.
My post was more personal perspective. I was saying that I rub it in a bit because after my freshman (Bucknell) and sophomore (Bradley) years in school, the KSU and MU smack talk got old. Hence, once we won it all and the Big12 league streak got more and more ridiculous, the chip on my shoulder made me make it rain.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
And Mizzou fans.... talking... about something
Honestly laughed out loud
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Yes indeed, Grad brought the funny on that one...
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't think of anything, really
I guess they won a Cotton Bowl… thats cool I guess
::kisses creepy Lew Perkins poster in my room::
::now crying remembering when we had a football team that wasn’t absolutely horrible::
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight
::kisses creepy Lew Perkins poster in my room::
just wrong in so many ways…
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
It was a joke… I promise…
That would never fly in my house. The Mrs. thinks Lew looks like " a creepy version of humpty dumpty"
Personally, I always thought he looked like Darth Vadar without his mask on. Observe:
vs.
Boom
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Oops, I meant look at Darth, and then
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
there are some things you shouldn't joke about
it was just scary….
lol.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I could never see Lew without hearing
You were right.. you were right Luke… you were right about me… tell your sister, you were right
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
To me....
it’s something that’s never gonna change. KU and KSU fans will always have this back and forth. The only thing that changes will be wins on the court to back it up. Not much you can do about it, expect hope people actually realize what’s going on and not be retarded about it. As long as it doesn’t get out of hand, it’s all fun. At least that’s my side anyway.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
How about we characterize KU vs KSU as sibling rivalry?
Some siblings are real assholes, some are really nice, some are disgraceful, but for the most part, it’s civil (no burning buildings or massacres) and fun.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton
anyone besides the band
Gonna be at the women’s game today? I’m not excited about having to try to beat iowa state in the try, but it should be a good game…
by jtarkman on Mar 9, 2011 11:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions
According to Kirk...
there is some purple in the house…and the band is really loud (which usually means there aren’t a lot of people there period).
I think that all of our three "bubble" teams need to win the tournament to get in.
Their RPIs are just SO low that (in the spreadsheet I’ve put together, anyways) I can’t see how any of the 3 get an at-large bid.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:34 AM CST reply actions
Something I would like to see
is a summary of the last 10 years (or however long Lunardi has made bracketology predictions – or however far back they are still available) showing Lunardi’s predicted bracket against what was actually committee-selected. My hunch is that it is somewhat similar in higher seed teams that get in but likely very rough on the edges which is what you ever really read bracket guessing for in the first place…
Also, any chance you could share this spreadsheet with me – I love to look at, use, analyze, etc just about any Excel spreadsheet put together with a purpose… :-)
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
With Lunardi,
from what I’ve read, I think he’s pretty accurate about WHO gets in, but not always WHERE they are seeded.
As for my “spreadsheet”, it’s nothing technical or anything. In fact, I haven’t even filled all the spots yet.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Well it's pretty easy to figure out most of the teams that get in.
I mean, anybody who knows even a little bit of basketball knowledge could easily name about 62 of the 68 teams that get in based on auto-bids and RPIs. When a person like Lunardi – who’s job is to do this – misses like 2 or 3 teams, I consider him getting like a 50%. That, in most cases, would get you fired.
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Except in bracketology
and meteorology…
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
I agree
I don’t understand how Nebraska and Baylor can still be considered on the bubble (even if they are on the very very edge). A losing record in conference? Nope – not going to happen. Especially when we can go 10-6 in conference one year and be left out. Hell, take Alabama for instance. I don’t care if you screw the pooch in the non-con or don’t play anybody. If you go 12-4 in conference, that should be an automatic in.
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The only part I disagree with,
is about Alabama. They are in the FAR weaker side of an already mediocre SEC. They are 8-2 against that side of the league. While I think they SHOULD be in, I can definitely see why a lot of people AREN’T putting them in.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Well then should Texas be penalized
for the fact that they only went 13-3 in a weaker part of the league? Substitute extra games with KU and K-State for any of the southern dwellers and they’ll have at least a few more losses. But do we automatically knock them down to a 6 seed or so?
No – having a record of 12-4 is still quite the accomplishment regardless of what BCS conference you play in.
(And I don’t mean to compare the SEC to the Big 12 or Alabama-Texas, because it’s not even close).
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Alabama loses out
because they don’t have ANY real non-con to brag about. And their RPI is absolutely horrible—worse than our Colorado/Baylor/Nebraska 3-pack.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
That's why I think the RPI is a little overrated.
I still like it, but it rewards you too much on who you play and not necessarily enough on how you play.
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RPI is still simply
the lesser of all evil choices of how to use “one number” to rank/sort NCAA basketball teams… :-/
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
I like RPI because
it means that teams can’t just schedule 150+ RPI teams, build up a gaudy record, and expect to get in. I do like to look at it in conjunction with Pomeroy and Sagarin, though.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
I like it too because of that
It’s just one of the big the WWL uses to define teams during basketaball games/sportscenter. It’s nice, but it doesn’t show the whole picture. If the WWL would use it with Pomeroy/KSB/Sagarin/Bracket, then I’d be ok with it!
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O-State is playing like they mean it today.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions
yea once Kevin Harlan started talking NBA on Soren's show
I turned over to ESPN3.com to at least listen to this game…now that it’s lunch time, time to Watch!
"Nor yet in Dell?"
This is when I love love LOVE that I'm working on my Master's through a distance program.
Sit here, watching basketball all day, while also getting a BIT of work done!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
25-11
Geez.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:02 PM CST reply actions
UConn 49 G'town 38
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:16 PM CST reply actions
I love the Double Play feature on DirectTV.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
I never have been able to figure out how to get that to work properly.
by BracketCat on Mar 9, 2011 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's just the down arrow.
You hit it twice, and then you can swap back and forth between two channels, while maintaining the ability to rewind either one.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
UConn is administering a beatdown to Georgetown.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:32 PM CST reply actions
Why do these commentators keep claiming that Colorado "is in, as of now"?
I know Lunardi has Colorado as one of his “last 4 in”, but I’ll eat my hat if they actually make it in without at LEAST getting to the finals.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 12:39 PM CST reply actions
I know
They are in worse position than we were that year we went 10-6 in conference.
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Nebrasketball is still in it.
Down 1 with 23 seconds to go. I didn’t think they were out of it at halftime, but they kept it closer than I thought.
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And Okie State holds on to win 53-52.
Anybody see how that one ended?
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Based on the RMN thread
Jeter pissed his leg…
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Jeter got into the lane with 3 seconds left,
and then stumbled and fell. No foul or anything, he just lost his footing.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I really thought he was going to win it for them.
Kid can play
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Pat Knight is a class act.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
An interview he gave to the Big 12 Network about his firing.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
He was nothing but gracious about the guys who fired him.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
If you could get a coach who is the half the coach of dad, and half the man of son, I bet you get one helluva coach and a good guy too
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton
Colorado is more sloppy than a pig rooting around in the mud.
Just an observation.
by BracketCat on Mar 9, 2011 2:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
And now ISU takes the lead.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hot Dang!
just checked on my office monitor (TV) and I have the game…let the fun begin.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
And Higgins puts the Buffs up by 1.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
CO is SLOPPY right now
Good thing ISU is no good so they have a chance to come back.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
St. John's is on the ropes versus Rutgers.
Two minutes left, Rutgers with the ball and down 2.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
Two missed shots in close.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Things that make you go hmmmmmm
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Now Rutgers has it back, still down two, 1:14 left.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Bucket! AND ONE!
What a game!!!!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Don't get that channel at work...very sad.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
It's on ESPN.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Tie ball game, 60-60, Rutgers at the line shooting 1, with 0:57.9 left.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
And Rutgers leads, 61-60!!!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
St. John's back in the lead with 2 FTs from Hardy.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Wish I could see that ending.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
It is on ESPN here
in Las Vegas…
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
St. John's now has a 56% FT shooter on the line, up by 1.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
0:17.7 remaining
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Hits front end of 1and1.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Hit both.
St. John’s up 64-61 with 17.7 to play.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Clutch
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
St. John's puts Rutgers on the line with 14.3 left.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Makes 2. 64-63
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Rutgers has the ball with 14 seconds remaining, down 1!
Hardy fumbled the inbounds pass out of bounds!!!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Rutgers gets fouled on the drive, but no call.
St. John’s at the line.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
And then Rutgers gets shoved out of bounds on the rebound.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
The referees are giving this game to St. John's.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I guess Jamar isn't the only one to be on the wrong side of the refs
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
That was one of the worst officiated end-games I've ever seen.
The officials just gave the game to St. John’s. Those three lunatics should never never NEVER be allowed to officiate another game at any level.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Thought you were talking about most Big 12 refs for a moment
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The Women's team knocked off Iowa State 56-53!
Now on to the inevitable bloodbath at the hands of Baylor in the semis.
In all my years of watching basketball, I've never seen worse officiating.
The last minute of the St. John’s/Rutgers game was worse (by FAR) officiating-wise than any game I’ve ever seen. And all of the bad calls went in favor of St. John’s. Every single one.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
Even more than the much
maligned MU @ KSU game recently?
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Way WAY worse.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Here's a list (just from the last 40 seconds or so):
1) St. John’s guy shoved a Rutgers guy out of bounds on a rebound, and it’s called out of bounds off Rutgers.
2) St. John’s defender mugs Rutgers guy on a shot in the lane, no call.
3) St. John’s guy body checks the Rutgers guy trying to catch the long pass, no call.
4) St. John’s guy who recovers the loose ball from (3) dribbles once, takes 3 steps with the ball, and then goes out of bounds, while throwing the ball into the stands with 1.6 seconds left, and no call, game ends, Rutgers loses.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Are we beginning to see, clearly now, the terrible effect of tv
money on sports? The refs know the league wants St. Johns to advance for TV purposes. It’s gettin bad, I believe. And if it keeps up, “sports” will lose its audience.
oh hail the Purple and White
Until today, I probably wouldn't have believed it.
But today looked way WAY beyond simple incompetence.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
there was a sports scandal(s)
There were sports scandals at the turn of the century(ish), i.e. 1800-1900 turn not the recent one, that caused some revision of sports rules. I’ll have to see if I can find a reference on it.
My recollection is that lots of betting was leading to rigged games/events.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I can't prove my suspicions;
there has always been corruption in sports. I am not naive on that. But i believe we are witnessing a subtle, insidious, beneath the surface form of “corruption” in the sense that Madison AVe (i.e., advertising $$) is having way too much influence on all sports. I doubt if anyone takes the ref crew into a room and says “make sure St. Johns beats Rutgers.” Far more subtle than that. And more insidious, and therefore harder to deal with because you can’t wrap your hands around it.
oh hail the Purple and White
I agree with your basic point,
but I think it was blatant corruption in this case. I just find it impossible to believe that any officials who were good enough to work their way up to the D-1 level are so incompetent to make such egregious errors on accident.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
Just as bad, maybe worse.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
OK, nevermind, my browser is freaking out with all the posts updating
Forward into Battle
by ChrisP Wildcat on Mar 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
That's the same
thing a third time, eh CPW? :-)
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Worse then the refs at the Wash St game early this year?
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Much worse. Much MUCH worse.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
WOW
didnt think that was really possible.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Watch the replay of the last minute or so on Deadspin.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Every bit as bad, and yes, maybe worse.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Mark my word
Iowa State will choke at the end. Always have, always will.
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I really dont know who i want ksu to play
I mean, i want to beat CU…but ISU is a pesky little shit
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
I see the ISU sharpshooters
are a combined 3-14 from beyond the arc…
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Please let this s**t show go into triple overtime...
by checklight on Mar 9, 2011 3:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
^^ This ^^
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Diante Garrett is nails.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
I don't think CU was getting in without at LEAST a finals run.
No matter what Lunardi is saying.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
with this craptastic showing..
it wont matter
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
This commentator is off his nut if he thinks CU loses this game and has ANY chance of being in the NCAAs.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
Yes.
And it couldn't happen to a nicer coach.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Story?
I see that he’s suspended, but why?
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He's suspended for the rest of the year for impermissible benefits.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
BYU type "benefits"?
Jake or Curt – like benefits?
Ohio State – like benefits?
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Sounds like financial or something like that.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, the Ohio State-like type.
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It sounds like Drew might end up in some hot water as well.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Does this surprise you??
The guy drives an SUV with 22 inch rims
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Jaw-breaking
Jaw-breaker eating a jaw-breaker?
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
impermissable benefits...
sounds like their might be more behind the scenes tho.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Is anybody else secretly hoping
that an “impermissable benefits” scandal comes out so big that a major team gets the death penalty?
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Only if it happens to Auburn.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well there's a few schools I wouldn't mind seeing happen to...
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after seeing the SMU 30 and 30...
i don’t want that on anyone…but getting Drew fired would be good enough.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'd feel bad for the kids that didn't cheat
but something has to be done with all these stories popping up resulting in a slight slap on the wrist.
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yeah...
there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
How do you walk in that situation?
Of course ISU is working on another choke job.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
first down
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
and the second
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
What an idiotic foul.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
He shouldn't have been standing there!
/happy gilmore
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
exactly - I couldn't be a coach with that going on
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Mar 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
It'll give ya' heart trouble, that's for sure!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Both of these teams simply do not have the depth
to compete in a tournament setting like this. 7-8 man rotation? You’ll get run out of the building.
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If you have 3 guys on your bench that you really trust, you're fine.
It’s when you have one that you trust, one that you kinda trust, and one that you barely trust that you get in trouble.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know
if you play a team like Mizzou and get run on the entire game (and win), then play a team like us who can get you into foul trouble and wear you down, it’s going to be a real tough stretch.
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Yeah, but
I think that an 8-man rotation UNLESS you have significant foul trouble is the way to go. What you need is another 2-3 guys that can keep you floating in emergency situations.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Like
Pullen, Gruber, Shane, JHR, CK
+
JamSam, Spradling, Bulltavious
++
Nick, & VO
?
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
I'd prefer to see Nick instead of Martavious regularly, but yeah.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
OK - NOW you should have shot the 3...
scoring 2 with 1.9 seconds left does not help. CU up by 2.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
These commentators are nuts if they think that CU is a lock right now.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
Let's take care of some unfinished business
Players, lock and load your focus.
Pullen, if you want some hardware, it starts tomorrow. Take them out! Go State, EMAW!
"Nor yet in Dell?"
NEW bracketology
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That's where I have them in my own pre-Big 12 tourney NCAA projections.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think I like our old #6 seed better
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
So we moved up because Xavier moved down?
I’m not following the logic there..
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Looks like we're going to face a Big East team, if we make it that far.
from the projections ive seen lately.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Higgens and Burks logged some minutes
35 and 38 minutes. Box Score for ISU vs CO
I didnt get to watch the game. Was it a run game or settle down game?
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Totally random question...
Does anyone know why Jake was replaced by Quincy Acy as the Big 12 voice on the Conference Voices blog on ESPN?
He only did one blog entry (January), and then was replaced. Because of the suspension?
I think they rotated it around
Plus wasnt Acy’s last report about Pullen makin good or something
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Yes...
But I’m pretty sure Jake is the only one that “rotated” out. And Acy has done February and March. Chandler Parsons has done at least 2. And Draymond Green has done 2, etc.
I just thought it was interesting/curious.
When I think of disappointing seasons
I immediately think Baylor
They're getting run by OU in the first half.
37-20 right now. Baylor may have been the biggest disappointment in the Big 12 this season. They were ranked as high as 9th early in the season, but couldn’t get a single marquee win in the nonconference schedule, and their only really good wins are a sweep of A&M.
by AMS on Mar 9, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
They couldnt get a marquee win in the noncon
because they didnt play anyone. I think Gonzaga was there biggesnt name game…. I think
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
When I think of Baylor
I immediately think of AAU basketball.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
Or their 6'8" phenom, who's actually a real bitch
And I’m not talking Jones either.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton
appreciate the support.
Looks like you’ll have an interesting and talented team next year, eh?
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
The Mayor sure had them playing hard this year.
Lots of tight games. Good sign.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
I hope they make it to one of those sub-NIT tourneys.
Post-season play would be good these guys.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Can Baylor come back?/
Down 17 with 10:30 left in the 2nd. Davis just went to the bench with 22 pts and 4 fouls
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Is the Big East really THAT good?
11 teams seems awfully high
major media markets, of course they are that good.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Each of those teams, on an individual basis, is completely deserving of a bid ...
When compared to the bubble.
Doesn’t mean the Big East won’t flame out anyway. There are no dominant teams, only good or very good ones. Then again, imo, there are no elite teams this year anywhere.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I will say that I thought Duke was an elite team ... with Kyrie Irving.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I still wonder if Coach K
is hiding him until the Big Dance
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
The short answer is no.
They have 3 or 4 really good teams and 2 or 3 more pretty decent teams. They also have 4 teams that are a lot like Baylor/Colorado, and can jump up and beat you. The bottom 1/4 of the conference is awful.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Watching Providence play the game was laugh-out-loud funny ...
A Kobe impersonator + 4 guys watching Marquette put the ball through the hoop.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I would contend that 5 of the 11 supposed tourney teams in the BE would be 8-8/9-7 teams in the Big 12.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
NCAA
Not Certain About Anything. If they can make a decision that adversely effects a Big 12 team, they do.
OSU and Auburn both get passes but K-State and Baylor both get adverse rulings that effects games played less than 5 hours after the decision. Yep, I have no respect for the NCAA making fair, impartial and equitable decisions on who can play or not.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions
Baylor down by 20 w/ 4:52 left;
turn out the lights. Is Baylor out of the tourney with this?
oh hail the Purple and White
Yes.
This counts as a bad loss, even with the NCAA decision making a big impact losing to OU is not good in any way.
Cade Davis is a player that I like and enjoyed watching him have a good game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Man, I finally saw that St. John's ending.
Holy crap – if only we had those guys for the Pervis Pasco incident….
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And if nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about
1. Shame on you.
2. Here’s a LINK
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Anyone else becoming cynical about the NCAA?
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:18 PM CST reply actions
becoming?
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by mystman995 on Mar 9, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
That ship finally sailed for me when they let Cam Newton keep playing.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like I should take Tech and the 10.5pts
Dont know why but I got the feeling….
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
TXT has underachieved all year
why should they change now? Even w/ the coach leaving, not sure TXT has what it takes.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
and Mizzou has lost 3 straight
But when Mizzou and Tech played the first time it was a decent game most the time
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
so a game of who sucks less?
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
It really might be
Mizzou (at home) only beat Tech by 8.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!
Pat Knight is in a suit. That is all. Thank You.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
he interview on the Big 12 network
He came across as a stand up guy. Hope he finds a good home as a coach.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
'The' interview....need an edit button
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I agree!!
It seems like him and Frank get along pretty well. That said would we want him on our staff? (assuming he would even be an ast) Does he offer us anything?
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
if we get both Knights
and keep the current staff … yeah that would be nice. 8-D
I think he will end up at a different school as THE coach.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
I think he will too
And I hope that he does!! I think with our current staff salaries we couldnt afford him. Was just throwing it out to see what anyone thinks….
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I think we should fire Dalonte, and hire Knight.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Thats pretty bold
Not argueing it but just wondering what does Knight bring??
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Frank will never fire one of his assistants. ever.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
His assistants attempt to recruit.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
"Attempt" should be in all caps, bolded, and italicized.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Do we have an O/U on beers (or hotdogs) consumed by TB today?
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 8:42 PM CST reply actions
and 1 light knocked out on that missed dunk....
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:02 PM CST reply actions
its been a pretty fun game to watch so far.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Its pretty much the same way their first meeting went
so far….
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
other than the BU/OU wipeout
all the games have been interesting today.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
let's hope the refs tomorrow allow the same type of play as this game (MU v TXT)
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:11 PM CST reply actions
Wow. Did anyone elses volume just get turned up for no reason??
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I'm thinking they didn't know about that either.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
this might be their first outing this year.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Nice tease, Doug Bell!
I wonder if Scott Drew disagrees with the NCAA’s decision …
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 9:28 PM CST reply actions
Safford is feeling it.
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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:29 PM CST reply actions
Lets Go Tech
Clean up some of those travels you had and its tied at half.
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missed it
what happened??
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
well it provoked PJ's reaction below.
basically wanting sympathy for their situation. Talked up how great of people the Jones’s are. Also, I don’t think he blinked the whole time.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Why would he? He's a reptile.
His species doesn’t blink.
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Doug Bell: "Ever been in a television studio before, Bryndon?"
Bryndon Manzer: “No sir, I’ve never been up in a television studio before.”
Doug Bell: “You ever seen a grown man naked?”
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 9:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Solid "Airplane" reference? Yes, yes it is.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hey, Scott Drew, fuck off...
You weren’t sitting in Johnnie’s Tavern 45 minutes before tip off when Goodman tweeted that Jake and Curtis were ineligible.
Oh, I’m sorry your 7/10 game didn’t go as planned. Fuck you, you crooked Eddie Haskell piece of shit.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Mar 9, 2011 9:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I hate Scott Drew. Maybe more than John Higgins.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
*Joins the Slow Clap*
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
West Virginia up 4 over Marquette in the 2nd half
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Marquette up 6 with 3min left
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Ever wonder who runs our conference?
No Whataburgers north of OK.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 9:50 PM CST reply actions
I don't understand all the fuss with Whataburger
Or Chick-fil-a either. It’s not bad, but it’s not that good.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Bite your TONGUE about Chick-fil-A!!!!!!!!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
See - everybody loves it!
I see lines 20-25 cars deep here in Dallas. Hell they are putting an In and Out Burger right next to it. The frontage road is going to be at a stand still for 2-3 hours during lunch.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
I adore Chick-fil-A.
Great chicken sandwiches, great ice cream… just love it!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
An In-and-Out right next to a Chick-fil-a?
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
You don't understand the fuss about Chick-fil-a? What are you? A terrorist?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Dont think they care as long as the Ad money rolls in
Just sayin…
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
yeah but it's more fun to act like TX really is in charge 8-D
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
DAMN IT TECH. Get it together!!!
or dont cuz I am meeting a mizzou fan tomorrow at SC to get my tickets and would like him to not skip town
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Buzz Williams to Tech???
Isnt he the coach at Marq??? And Doc already said no to Tech
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Should say Doc said no to being interested in Tech
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
but if you throw out a bunch of names
then when one of them is picked, you can say ‘I was right’
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
At some point, Buzz has to see that gauntlet and say, "Yeah, I'm not going to do this every year."
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I hate to say this BUT
Why come to the Big 12 wherever everyone thinks KU will win it every year…
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I have no retort SO I'M GONG TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS JUST TO PROVE YOUR WRONG BECAUSE I'M TYPING ALL LOUD!!!
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
AND I MISUSED "YOUR" FOR DRAMATIC AND HUMOROUS EFFECT!
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
great you just won every argument on BOTC, ever.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Making my way to the MIA Heat locker room to join them in cry fest 2011
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Game is further below the rim ...
Ricardo Ratliff
or ….
Freddie Asprilla
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions
Freddie 'my hands are rocks' Asprilla
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Anyone think
Iowa State can finish in the top 4 next season?
next year could be a slugfest with the teams left in the league.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's possible, but highly speculative ...
Nobody really knows how the chemistry is going to work out. It should be interesting.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 9, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I see them finishing middle of the pack (5 to 7)
with a record of something around 8-10/7-11.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think they could, but I don't think they will
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton
Tech's done.
Players are just ready to head to the locker room.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:29 PM CST reply actions
if Knight can't win with 5 seniors, can he coach anywhere?
Or is he going to be regulated to juco, small college or assistant level?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Does every Mizzou player have something drawn in their hair?
Phil Pressy and Ratliff both do at least
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Anybody wondering where MU went?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:41 PM CST reply actions
I can't see you guys losing tomorrow
Not the way KSU and CU are both playing, and given that CU has the regular season sweep. KState should be out for blood. Personally, I don’t see it being closer than ten (and no I’m not trying to jinx you).
Can’t wait for a tiebreaker. If nothing else, its a great final test for both of us before the big dance.
Shit happens when you win championships
I'm still nervous.
It won’t help I will be holed up at work trying to stream it. Ugh, my poor co-workers.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not nervous at all about it, WW.
Think of it this way: it’s win-win for us, whatever happens. Why? First, because if we lose, we drop back to the more juicy 6/7-seed area, so no worries there. Second, because if we win, we get a chance to beat the piss out of the dirty birds again. See? No worries!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
KSU will be well rested, CU just went through a close game...
Too many signs. I think KSU grinds them down and pulls away slowly but surely. But maybe I feel that way because I’m dying for another KU-KSU game. I want to avenge our last loss, I want the tiebreaker game, I want a game against the type of team we’d face in the Sweet 16, etc.
Colorado… meh
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well.
I hope both of you are right. Not much work is going to get done tomorrow.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
if you win this one
then we should win the elite 8 meeting and national championship, that would only be fair.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
How awesome would it be to get a 6-seed across from KU in the tourney?!?
That would be like perfect symmetry from 88.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
How does Anderson still have his coat on??
Dude usually ditches it quick
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
He could pull a Bruce Pearl and sweet through the jacket
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
He better get that motherf*cking coat off
motherf*ckin quick.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
I mean
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Hes no angel
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Buzz Williams does that too.
That’s a lot of sweat.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
I start dorking around on other sites, MU is up by a bunch, I look back, and Tech pulls into the game.
This is like a damn NBA game.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by dorking around
do you mean taunting other fans?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 9, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
No, just reading threads on other message boards.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Why didnt Pat call TO with 16 seconds left??
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
a lot of coaches believe you should let them play...
i like it better than calling a timeout.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 9, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
One thing we would practice, back in the day,
was time-and-score, where the play was to get the ball down the court quickly (after a make or miss), and get right to the basket before they can set their defense. It extends the game, and saves a timeout.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
It was the right play
Their best player got to the rim easily, he just didn’t convert. Had he made that layup, they are only down one with 15 seconds. Right call, just poor execution
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 9, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was more like 8 or 9 seconds, but still, I obviously agree.
He hits that layup, and Mizzou is having some serious tightening in their nether regions when they go to the line only up one.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 9, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
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