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TOURNEY WATCH: 3/27/2011 (NCAA Open Thread)

Is anyone really surprised by this? To me, the only surprise is that he actually had to use scissors, and not his Jedi mind powers, to cut the a piece of the net off.

First things first: Let this post serve as our unofficial gathering place today as we cheer the Rams of the Commonwealth of Virginia on to an upset win over the Mythical Birds.

A region as prone to upsets as the Southwest has been deserves better than sending a chalky No. 1 seed to Houston. I want to see a VCU-Butler winner in the national championship, dammit. Let the Lord of Chaos rule!

For previews of today's Elite Eight games, see my BRACKET BLOG from yesterday here.

As for Saturday, is anyone surprised at all that Butler found a way to win that game?

That Shelvin Mack hit big shots down the stretch? That the Bulldogs rallied to force overtime after being down as much as 11?

That Matt Howard was the headiest and most determined player on the court at the end of the game?

Of course not. We saw that in 5.99 games last March and April. As the AP story noted, it's the Butler Way.

Rather than tear down Billy Donovan and his team for what I thought were fairly poor choices in the final 15 minutes of that game, we instead should celebrate the great story that is Butler basketball — a Cinderella no more.

Star-divide

Associated Press Ranking = 21

ESPN/USA Today Ranking = 24

Overall Record = 23-11

Big 12 Record = 10-6

Top 50 Record = 4-7

Big 12 Seed = 4

NCAA Seed = 5

RPI = 23

SOS = 11

Region (Site) = Southeast (Tucson)

Signature Wins (RPI 1-30) = Kansas, Texas, Utah State

Quality Wins (RPI 31-100) = James Madison, Virginia Tech, Gonzaga, Washington State, Baylor, Nebraska (2), Missouri

Bad Losses (RPI 101 or greater) = none

  • James Madison (21-12, 10-8 CAA) | RPI = 88
  • Virginia Tech (22-12, 9-7 ACC) | RPI = 62
  • Presbyterian (13-18, 7-11 Big South) | RPI = 204
  • Gonzaga (24-10, 11-3 WCC) | RPI = 56
  • No. 3 Duke (32-5, 13-3 ACC) | RPI = 4
  • Texas Southern (19-13, 16-2 SWAC) | RPI = 192
  • Emporia State (16-14, 12-10 MIAA**)
  • No. 2* seed Washington State (22-12, 9-9 Pac-10) | RPI = 82
  • Alcorn State (4-24, 4-14 SWAC) | RPI = 337
  • Loyola-Chicago (16-15, 7-11 Horizon League) | RPI = 197
  • No. 2 seed Florida (29-8, 13-3 SEC) | RPI = 8: Loss to No. 8 seed Butler (71-74 in overtime in the Southeast Region of the NCAA Tournament's Elite Eight)
  • UNLV (24-9, 11-5 Mountain West) | RPI = 25
  • UMKC (16-14, 9-9 Summit League) | RPI = 212
  • North Florida (15-19, 10-10 Atlantic Sun) | RPI = 149
  • Savannah State (12-18) | RPI = 252
  • Oklahoma State (20-14, 6-10 Big 12) | RPI = 61
  • No. 1* seed Colorado (24-13, 8-8 Big 12) | RPI = 65
  • Texas Tech (13-19, 5-11 Big 12) | RPI = 165
  • Missouri (23-11, 8-8 Big 12) | RPI = 37
  • No. 24 Texas A&M (24-9, 10-6 Big 12) | RPI = 30
  • Baylor (18-13, 7-9 Big 12) | RPI = 94
  • No. 1 seed Kansas (35-2, 14-2 Big 12) | RPI = 1
  • Nebraska (19-13, 7-9 Big 12) | RPI = 89
  • Iowa State (16-16, 3-13 Big 12) | RPI = 138
  • Oklahoma (14-18, 5-11 Big 12) | RPI = 126
  • No. 8 Texas (28-8, 13-3 Big 12) | RPI = 11
  • No. 19 Utah State (30-4, 15-1 WAC) | RPI = 15
  • No. 16 Wisconsin (25-9, 13-5 Big Ten) | RPI = 16

*NIT
**Division II

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FWIW, I'm of the mind that Oklahoma will turn to Dave Rose to resurrect its basketball program.

Quality guy, good X’s and O’s, nice eye for underrated talent. They could do a lot worse.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for Missouri, I think they could turn into this year's Oregon.

I don’t think that job is as attractive as a lot of Mizzou fans and boosters seem to think.

My advice to them is to keep the search quiet lest they end up with as much egg on their face as the Ducks did last year.

And for the record, Mike Alden needs to swallow his ego and rely heavily on Jon Sunvold for advice, rather than freeze him out of the committee process as he is doing currently.

Jon was right about hiring Bill Self instead of Quin Snyder. He was right about hiring Bob Huggins instead of Mike Anderson. And he’ll be right this time, too.

I currently put a 57% probability on Mizzou screwing up this hire and ending up in a worse place than it would have been in had Anderson stayed.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure that equation has interesting variables

I currently put a 57% probability on Mizzou screwing up this hire and ending up in a worse place than it would have been in had Anderson stayed.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, just pulled it out of my ass.

But the combination of a search committee lacking JS and a search firm make me more than 90-percent confident that the actual probability is in excess of 50 percent.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

making up interesting sounding variable could be fun.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, you're smart at the interweb maths!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I do have a BS in Political Science with an emphasis on statistics.

But in the case, the BS stands for bullshit, not Bachelor of Science. LOL

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to toot my own horn or anything...

…but I’m going to be really disappointed if that formula isn’t green by the end of the day. I mean, seriously, that’s some quality BBBS’ing there.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your BBBSing skills rival your interweb maths skillz...

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

what can I say ... I'm an engineer I had to rec an equation post.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think the fanbase has the perception that they are kind of a "next tier" job,

after schools like UK, UCLA, UNC, etc.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're third tier at best.

Any school that never has been to a Final Four is third tier at best.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're basically a one-coach school.

They’ve never won the conference unless Norm Stewart was the coach, I believe.

You have to have had success with more than one coach (preferably three or more) to qualify as a second-tier program, in my mind.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the 'next tier' is a huge tier...

There are a small handful of jobs out there that are considered ‘elite’. The rest of them are pretty much equal until you get to the bottom of the barrel BCS schools and 99% of mid-majors.

Basketball is a lot different than football. You just need to get a couple of really good players to field a competitive team, and you can seemingly pull players from anywhere you want because coaching connections mean much, much more than they do in football. Look at all of the players from Florida and NYC Frank has pulled in, and that’s before we’ve made any tangible, physical progress on our facility upgrades. As long as you have a coach with connections, you can win at any BCS school. Period. The only difference is in retaining said coach, and some schools have the financial ability to do so, and others don’t.

Arkansas isn’t a better job than Missouri, and if it ‘is’, it’s only marginally so. The only reason Anderson left Mizzou to go there is because A) they made the money work, and B) it’s always been his dream job. I mean, shit, the guy coached there for 14 years.

Missouri will find a guy, and if he leaves, it’s because another job is more attractive to him because of money/location/history. That’s the way the entire working world works. If their goal is to hire some guy that wants to be a lifer at Missouri, that’s as short sighted as me trying to target people that want to work 40 years at the same company. You want to always find someone that will stay a reasonable amount of time and leave your program in a place that is better than it was when he got there. Then, the next time, you hope you do the same thing again.

I really hope the expectation/hope for their search, or ours when the time comes (football or basketball), isn’t to find someone that will never leave. That’s just stroking the ego a little too much in the face of trying to do the job right.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well said

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really think Frank might be a "never leave" guy.

He has the chance to be KSU’s “Dean Smith”, which (at 46), he’ll probably not get anywhere else.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two things before I take off for a while...

1) I hope you’re right.

2) If he stays, I think it’s a combination of the following factors: loyalty, his wfie, and our ability to keep him well-compensated.

Frank always talks about loyalty and how it’s no longer apparent in this society, especially with young people. Maybe he’ll stay because he wants to be an example of that to his players?

From what I’ve heard, his family is very happy in Manhattan. Maybe every coach and his family is very happy in their current location, but if you find a place where your family is content/happy, in life, you’ve won 90% of the battle.

As soon as the Fox money kicks in, and the ESPN deal gets redone in about four years, we’re going to have a shit ton of money to pay him whatever he wants. Just redoing the Fox deal may give us more, annually, than the ACC will make starting next year. When the new money comes, and with two less mouths to feed, we’re looking at a very, very prosperous future, and given that we don’t field all sports, we’ll have extra to be generous.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun tidbits from SB Nation that further the VCU-George Mason analogy I made in yesterday's BRACKET BLOG:
But VCU does have one thing on its side: history. While it is a small sample size, No. 11 seeds have actually had a lot of success against No. 1 seeds in the Elite Eight. An Elite Eight matchup between a No. 11 seed and a No. 1 seed has happened four times since 1985, and the No. 11 seed has won twice.

2006: No. 11 seed George Mason 86, No. 1 seed Connecticut 84
2001: No. 1 seed Michigan State 69, No. 11 seed Temple 62
1990: No. 1 seed UNLV 131, No. 11 seed Loyola Marymount 101
1986: No. 11 seed LSU 59, No. 1 seed Kentucky 57

One other thing worth noting: when George Mason made the Final Four in 2006, it did so by defeating a No. 6, No. 3 and No. 1 seed along the way. VCU has already beaten a No. 6 and No. 3 seed in its run. Now, all it has to do is top the No. 1 seed, just like its CAA rival did. Piece of cake, right?

I believe the Rams can win! I believe the Rams can win!

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

FOUND IT

Pullen Video opens in new window. Also posted it in the other thread

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you!

I wasn’t able to watch it before it was removed. You’re a Godsend!

P.S. Fuck Clemson and fuck YouTube.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

UConn Women

Down 4 with 9min left in 2nd half. ESPN

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope they lose.

I’ve never been a big fan of Auriemma, and the top-heavy nature of D-1 women’s basketball isn’t good for the game.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I jinxed it

Had to say something and now they are on a run

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shooting from your chest and layups aren't good for the game...

Yes, I’m aware that sounds sexist. Yes, I’m aware that this means I’ll have a daughter who will be very into girls basketball, forcing me to watch and/or coach.

Anyway, I’ll stop being a dick now.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if the game were less top-heavy, more fans would take the time to watch it.

But when you only have 3 or 4 teams (at MOST) with a legit chance to win it all, it’s just kind of pointless. I love what Deb and our girls did this year, but I knew they had NO chance of making even the Sweet 16, more or less winning it all.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's always going to be that way because basketball is a game that rewards athleticism.

I like watching softball. I like watching volleyball. But women’s basketball is pretty tough to watch because it requires a specific type of athleticism that most of those young women are incapable of displaying. That’s why the game is so top-heavy; the very, very small number of exceptional athletes with the right set of skills to play basketball are so few and far between that they get gobbled up into three or four major programs.

It’s never going to take off because it’s like trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

my interest in the first game is tied to how long VCU stays in it.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, they let Boston stay in it for awhile

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they play like they played against Boston,

the Beakers WILL get beat.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The longer they hang around, the more tense KU will get.

The pressure is going to be intense on the “favorite to win it all” if they’re not ahead significantly with less than 5 minutes to play.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be awesome if they were actually DOWN by 10 or so with 5 to play.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random Thought; Next VCU coach...Jeff Capel?

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

That might not be as crazy as one thinks

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Butler 101 up as fan post

let me know if I need to add to it.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

VCU hanging in there thus far.

Only down 8-7. For some stupid reason, I thought the game started at 1:30 and not 1:20, so I missed the first five minutes.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

KU has only trailed 3min 29sec the whole tournament

Incase you didnt hear it on the tv

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

No, just one.

My bad. The other whistle was a 3-second call.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

FTs will be key when VCU gets them

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Shaka Smart a defender??

he was gettin after it on the sideline

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Holy Crap

Shaka Zulu in the house! I have a good good feeling about today. Go Rams!

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

This is a great start so far.

So much for the theory that VCU would be tired coming off the late overtime game.

Just hope they don’t run out of gas down the stretch…

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would appear that the Boo Birds, native to Lawrence, have migrated South for the Spring.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow, two tough misses in a row for the Rams.

I like that they’re trying to go inside, though. Get those MAARESS twins in foul trouble.

Six turnovers and six fouls now for the Beakers.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Where is Higgins when Ku really needs him to get the calls?

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is currently on hold

to talk to the refs during halftime

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Told ya he would call the refs during halftime

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

KU will probably still win...

But I like the match-up. VCU has nothing to lose. KU, historically, doesn’t handle situations like this very well due to their soft and spoiled nature.

Like right now, for example, calls they usually get in the Big 12 aren’t going their way because these refs don’t have the bias of saying, “Well, it’s Kansas.”

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCU needs to hit those turnaround jumpers!!!

They are getting nice looks

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Thrown off by pressure of VCU. I love it!

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

KU will make a run at some point

VCU just needs to control it

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

good call

he was hooking him.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Selby will end up being really good next year if he doesn't feel unbelivably screwed and jaded.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Selby can jump this year and go in the first round, he better do it.

One more season will expose him for good. As of right now, he can still play the “potential” card with the NBA.

Rivals REALLY blew it this year anointing him the No. 1 player. Brandon Knight is about 1,000 times better.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it just me or does Selby appear a little heavy?

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think he is!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goddamn...VCU is aggressive.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I've never seen a team play with zero fear. I'm not a religious man, but this is like divine intervention.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

UNI did. Remember Farokhmanesh's last 3?

One key is you have to make your 3s. It demoralizes them and puts the score out of reach faster.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

DON'T JINX IT!!!!!!

SLAP!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, this is different.

Look in their eyes. This isn’t some sort of ‘high’.

Not to go all poetic, but these guys are just burning from deep inside their souls.

VCU is fucking pissed. They’re on a mission, and God help whoever stands in their way at this point.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shaka Smart is one hell of a coach.

I really hope he chooses Rocky Top over Rock M.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's going to be the #1 coach on the board as soon as VCU gets bounced.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he pulls this off, he might not get bounced.

This team is on one of the hottest March streaks I can remember.

This is five games in a row where they’re shooting better than 50 percent from 3. That’s nuts.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think at the moment VCU is playing like we did vs them

Not scared, waiting for a decent shot, something to prove

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this might be an apt comparison.

They need to keep their foot on the Beakers’ necks, and run away and hide.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

overlooked?

I know for sure the Morris twins got cocky and overlooked this game because they thought they were playing Vagina Common Wealth

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

They overlook a lot of things. I think it's because they're cross-eyed.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If KU wants to get upset

2 of 8 from the free-throw line, 1 of 5 from 3-point line and giving up 6 of 12 3s is a great way to do it.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

That series is summing up this game...

They get, what, three or four off. rebs., miss four three throws, and then VCU goes down and hits a three.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What really impresses me is how good a job VCU is doing on the boards.

Much better than I anticipated. Reminds me of what they did to G’town and Purdue.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Major point from today

KU got babied through the first 3 rounds and now that they have to actually play hard, they’re sucking it up.

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Correction...
KU got babied through the first 3 rounds season and now that they have to actually play hard, they’re sucking it up.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

True.

The only two teams who stood up to their bullying beat their asses.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Veal just went medeval on that shit.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Shaka wants to smile

But knows its to early

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Ku still has a run or two in them, i fully expect it to be a close game at the end.

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're wrong.

Every time KU has been smacked in the mouth this year (vs. UT, @KSU), they’ve wilted and died. I’m hoping they lose this by 20.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but here's hoping! :)

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They better start making it soon, or they're gonna be down 30.

Teams that shoot this well from 3 against KU usually win, historically speaking.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teams that shoot this well from three usually don't lose at all.

Except NU in Manhattan last year.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Morris twins look sad and scared.

Quick, someone call Miss Angel so she can bring them some lollipops to cheer them up!

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

stats

team, field, 3’s, fts as percent
VCU, 48, 60, 86
KU, 35, 10, 25

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

They need to keep working inside out. They've had some success here.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Tyrel doesn't want to go out like a bitch. Ironic, but still.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, he is the least likable player they've had since Keith Langford.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? Morningstar is no joy either.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the most hateable phoggie team in modern history.

I won’t speak for anything before 1985, because I don’t know.

The duo of Jacque Vaughn and Jerod Haase come close on their own … but ultimately, the sheer weight of numbers of a-holes on this team is just too much.

This team was stacked. With pieces of crap.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 28, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

256 ... as long as you have a winning record you play the first weekend.

play at the highest seed’s home court for each pod of 4.

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like 96 as a nice, round #.

Gives the top 8 seeds in each region a bye, and makes certain that any bubble teams that MIGHT have a chance to actually make a run get into the tournament.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

So basically just fold the NIT into the Dance?

I’m coming around to that line of thought, but I’d like to see us get there in gradual steps rather than all at once. I’d add four teams to the First Four and make it the First Eight next year.

That gives all the No. 1 seeds a team coming off a FE game and makes the Last Four In and the Next Four In all have to prove it in Dayton before joining the main field.

Seems like a decent compromise.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The max I'm willing to go is play-ins is eight.

I’d like all at-large play ins to be on the same line (i.e. 11 or 12) and all qualifiers to be 16s.

I believe that’s 72. That’s more than enough.

Four games on Tuesday, Four games on Wednesday.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be 76, actually.

8 teams playing to be 16s and 8 playing to be 11s or 12s.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, whatever.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The reason I like 96,

is that the top 32 teams all get byes. Everyone else has to play in the first round. Seems pretty symmetrical.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell you what...

I’m all for making the twelve seeds be play in games. There’s four more.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

foul count on the twins????

anyone?

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

o/u 4?

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

0 on Marcus.

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHAT???

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's from ESPN

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take a 14-point halftime lead.

Would have liked it stay around 17 or more, but VCU had some bad possessions down the stretch.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I was hoping for 20

but then again … I loathe the hawks.

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that doesn't bode well for the second half.

The lead may be insurmountable, but you never know. I doubt they’ll stay this hot.

But they must…MUST…keep the lead over ten going into the U-12 timeout. If KU is down by more than ten with around ten to go, they’ll start to force it. If KU can whittle it down to around 6-8 with twelve to go, I don’t know if VCU can hold on.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I really do love twitter

“RT @CNSCasey: @curtiskitchen Agreed. KU completely looked past VCU-So much so that no one tried to fight anyone during the pre-game-Mistake”

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

According to 610 sports outta KC

This is KUs biggest halftime hole of the year

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, they haven't done well when being down at half so far this year, so we've got that going for us.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this rate, the only person who picked North Carolina in your bracket pool is going to walk away with the money.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

or Butler

go Bulldogs!

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Kentucky!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fat Chance on that one.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch, Smitty with the burn.

“After the Morris twins, VCU has the same, or even better players, as Kansas across the board.”

So true.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, look at that shot chart.

VCU’s spacing and 3-point shot selection is almost clinical. Fascinating.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

FREE THROWS- gotta hit them all or dang near

VCU needs to start looking for their shots again

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

from the dome

from the sports fan friend at the dome:

This is awesome. They are so quiet.

interesting that she has the schadenfreude after only attend 2 games involving KU.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

They're horrible.

Back in college, a friend of mine had a t-shirt that said, “Our basketball team is better than yours,” on it.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've requested pictures.

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why everyone keeps saying this game is shocking.

KU has been a shitty defensive team all season. It didn’t start overnight.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Not really. #7 per Ken Pom.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck KenPom

My eyes tell me they’re lazy on D.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great play outta halftime

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

LOLZ at Thing 1 there.

He cried like a baby when the ref said it was VCU ball.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Markiff about went off on the ref, so close

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Bite your tongue!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCU will weather it

and then go on their own run

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

One can only hope. A three would probably do wonders for their confidence.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It happens in every game.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting sloppy......

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought they stopped making "Fast and Furious" movies.

Bring on the Cats
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by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

out takes spliced together

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF

I know some agree but I am not one of them—

“Chris Harper—VCU is up, but I kinda want ku to win because their jerseys say Kansas #realtalk”

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

TSC sucks as a motto.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCU is so long...Drunky Morningstar can't drive around them.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice reference.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

need a rally meme.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Starting to run out of gas...

Where the fuck is Rozzell? He’s their best shooter..

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

They're spacing right now. They aren't moving.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

IF

the Morris twins can keep their tempers/reactions under control … they will do well in the NBA.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, this is where the dream starts crashing down.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Noooooooooooo.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

First one all year

and of course its vs KU

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Techs aren't always bad.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here she comes, for a one-time-only appearance...

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Hopefully she brings a 12-2 game-stabilizing run to VCU!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's a goddess!

An absolute, freaking GODDESS!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL at Reed missing the first Tech shot. I can see the piss on your shorts.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

this is not a good camera angle

the court is at an angle and I can’t see the whole floor.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

MorningBitch looks confused on that foul

You had your hand in his chest the whole way

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Late whistle there

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

VCU has only 5 points this half.

They haven’t gone cold; they’ve gone Arctic.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

ball wasn't over the rim

is that a goal tend?

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

yes. hit the backboard

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a heckuva coach.

And Smart’s still learning.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not afarid to say it

Hes a great coach

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

KU has a good coach and good athletes.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

he moved his chest into the VCA player

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a charge

since he lowered the shoulder

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dumb, dumb, dumb foul by Marcus. Love it!

Three each now.

Things are about to change for the Rams inside the paint.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

what a block

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

calm down

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Compare him to B. Knight from UK.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was there a foul on the alley?

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

VCU had contact on body

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I over looked it

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was an easy one to miss.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please. Stop. Fouling.

They need Rodriguez back in. These turnovers are silly.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

attack VCU, attack.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

you are on a roll with comments this afternoon.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

this should turn green

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weathering the storm...

There is no glory without overcoming adversity.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Really bad shot Rod

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

What was THAT, Rodriguez?!?

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

stats

team, field, 3’s, ft’s as percent.
VCU, 41, 53, 79
KU, 39, 13, 54

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

had to wait for the buzzer from BBWW

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet another FT miss.

Amazing. KU hasn’t been great from the line this year, but this is the worst yet.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Time to run clock??????

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

never.

Always attack.
double digits w/ 1 minute to go … then put the 2nd and 3rd team in.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Under 4 timeout, VCU +9.

Hold on, Rams! Hold ON!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

stats

under 4 timeout
team, field, 3’s, ft’s as percent
VCU, 40, 52, 79
KU, 38, 11, 54

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

And to VCU's low 2-pt%

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

more stats

3’s/3’s attempted
VCU, 12, 23
KU, 2, 18

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Facebook status from KU friends

Just posted: I’m confused. Which of these teams played an OT game on Friday?

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

KU will keep playing

but they are getting close to giving up

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And ANOTHER missed free throw!

Is Brad Stevens using the Force again, all the way from Indianapolis.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

sweet

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

wowowowowowow

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I want a point guard like that.

Please, Angel, inherit the mantle of Rodriguez the Jayhawk Slayer!

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drive the lane, kick it out for 3, dagger, ballgame.

I’m making the call.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Couldn't have been more wrong.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Timeout call!!!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

What a PLAY on defense!!!!!!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Kerr is just flat out rooting for KU, Reggie Miller-style.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

sometimes I'm very glad of my ability to not listen to the announcers.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on, Rod.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

BUCKETS!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Stevens as VICE

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

is either one eligible?

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clutch.

Unlike the entire KU team today. LOL

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

3 possession lead.

Keep it there…

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

The guy in the Jayhawk head will cry if they lose

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

it is okay

my joy will cancel out their sorrow.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

TOLD YOU HE WOULD CRY

Click here I dont know how to just post the pic

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all over but the crying...

Obama and his four No. 1 seeds couldn’t have been more wrong.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

not really an upset

when one team leads the entire game.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

sort of like picking Pitt to win a game

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by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't it happen almost every year?

Steve Balboni is Legen...Wait For It...Dary

by clintox100 on Mar 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly my point

Except for 88’ and 08’ they underachieve mostly. No pity from me though. Loving this.

Steve Balboni is Legen...Wait For It...Dary

by clintox100 on Mar 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, they weren't going to win a championship.

After all, they weren’t on probation. Isn’t that a prerequisite?

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

usually they go on probation after they win.....

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Point

Steve Balboni is Legen...Wait For It...Dary

by clintox100 on Mar 27, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not over yet

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

can we adopt VCU and Butler?

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, the Twins might be coming back now, but I really don't care.

This was worth it. Can’t wait to pick up a copy of the Star tomorrow.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

doubt they are back

big $ await.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not criticizing, but

I can’t ever take any happiness from a young guy’s tears.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know.

I just can’t do it. Not judging you for being able to do so.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

this made me lol!

Can’t let my mom/sisters back in KS know I was rooting against them all day, but this sure was a sweet win. I liked VCU since I saw them knock down Georgetown. Love the fearless way they play.

by ohiocats84 on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

did not think

Did not think the hawks would never be in this game.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Tommorow is officially, "Be nice to a KU fan day"

They hate that.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 3:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

you guys made it further this year...

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

One KU fan I worked with was already making plans for the Final Four.

His brother lucked into tickets. I’m glad he can’t go now because it would have dumped a ton of work on my shoulders during a particularly trying time of transition.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

KU shot 9% from 3 point range

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I credit Rally Scarlett for this victory.

The Hawks had closed to either 3 or 5 points when I posted her. She is the freaking PRIESTESS of Rally Memes!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

very true

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't have a favorite for the 2nd game

but NC probably by default…

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Just talked with KU friend

He didnt complain about refs or anything like that. He simply said got to hit free throws and how do we shot 9% from 3?!?!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell, I'm rooting for Roy now.

Him in the Final Four will REALLY piss them all off.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

still don't like the gift after graduation thing.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, he's a douche, no doubt about it.

But right now, I’m all about schadenfreude. If that means rooting for the ex-girlfried who jilted them, then so be it.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone think the AP already has settled on this lead?

“From the First Four to the Final Four…” or some variation thereof.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

WIBW doing a thing on KU losing

if they make me miss one second of UNC vs UK game I will be pissed

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Ewing?

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Missouri, I think I found your new coach.

Shaka has as many wins against KU as Mike A., and his came on a neutral floor in a MUCH more important game.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

okay smart guy

give us another tough game…..I’m sure we will thank you.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the smirking

Colorado fan right next to him…

by No Moths on Mar 27, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont forget about the Shockers!!!!

Their in NYC as well!!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

2nd pic: show us your Bingo Wings!!!

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a CU fan in there?

Did he get tickets to the wrong tourney?

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

UNC keeps giving the ball away

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

we need to record these dunks as a how to video.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?!?!?!!?

Checkout this PICTURE anyone want to guess who the guy on the left is???

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I have no idea who either one is.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe its Robinett

“Jonathan Kealing – Watching #kubball take on Richmond with @KellisRobinett. Not much of a game. Elite Eight, anyone?” The pic link was after the question mar

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My response?
Watching #vcubball take on Kansas with @BringOnTheCats. Not much of a game. Final Four, anyone?

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smellis

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Classic.

Wish I could take a dump on his wife’s Jayhawk cookies.

Frank was too nice to that twat last week. I would have really let him have it.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This should be greener than any other comment ever.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

KSB

I posted this for a few reasons and the main one was to hear your rant!!!! Dont let me down!! Now scroll up look at the pic and go off!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I already vented my "Robinett Rage" the night after he asked his terrible question.

He’s a mediocre writer for two overrated papers. He makes less per year (I guarantee) than a decent plumber. He works in an industry that is dying, with plenty of help from blogs like this one, RMN, and RCT. There’s no reason to feel rage at him anymore—only pity.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

My one real regret about today

is that I won’t get to watch Brad Stevens mindfuck Bill Self next week.

Oh, well, there’s always next year. Maybe they’ll meet in the first round.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I know where KU went wrong.

Morris forgot to warn the VCU players, “You better be ready for us,” yesterday like he did for the Richmond players.

It’s OK. They were ready anyway.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like maybe they did warn them

Jason King — "Morris twin to VCU’s Rodriguez & Burgess during pregame handshakes @ midcourt: “You guys have had a nice run. It’s time for you to go home.”

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, guess I wrong.

Man, those guys are dumb. Even I underestimated their dumbness.

Now you see why I enjoyed them crying, KSB? Pride goeth…

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, Bill Self is 1-5 in the NCAA regional finals.

That’s an ugly black mark for an otherwise excellent coach.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

This is why I will always argue that KU fans simply are not appreciative enough of their many conference and conference tournament championships.

They’re always so busy looking ahead to the Final Fours that they almost never reach and the national championships that they almost never win they they don’t stop to smell the roses that already have.

I pray we never become like that as a fan base. You have to prize and cherish each and every NCAA win because they’re just so damn hard to get. The Big Dance can be a real fickle bitch.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

We never will

We’re not a bunch of smug, self-important assholes. Also KSU fans have seen the absolute bottom of everything and thus appreciate every quality win or tourney appearance we get, or so is my theory. My theory is shamelessly stolen from whichever one of you writers used to write another blog called “Memoirs of a K-State fan” or something like that. Who was that again?

Proud Kansas State 2009 Graduate, KMAN City Commission and County Commission Reporter.
EMAW 4 LIFE

by Joesus on Mar 27, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think so. Whoever it was wrote really, really good.

Proud Kansas State 2009 Graduate, KMAN City Commission and County Commission Reporter.
EMAW 4 LIFE

by Joesus on Mar 27, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was me. I'm trying to find an archive of the old post. It was called "The Love".

I can’t seem to find it, and I deleted that page a long time ago.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

one friend

mentioned to me that KU ‘fans’ at the Alamo dome were taunting with ‘hope you enjoy your flight home’ and ‘can you get your flight moved up’ (not exact quotes).

This is how you get a bad rep.

Hopefully we don’t have too many of these in the K-State fan ranks.

But yeah, some of us remember the dark days of football rather well.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quote from beginning of the game

During a captains meeting with officials before tipoff, VCU guard Joey Rodriguez said one of the brothers offered him some parting words: “The run ends here.”

Good riddance to you, KU tards!!!

by joco_ryno on Mar 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Another good one:
We were told they were buttholes on the court.

Skeen said that in the postgame presser about the Morris twins. Think Richmond might have given him a heads-up?

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is gold!!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone have the slow clap gif?

I think that this is an appropriate time for its posting.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love how you cut of the rest of his quote though.

But hey, half-truths are better than what the guy actually said, right?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Mar 28, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch that presser again, though, Warden.

From the reaction of Rodriguez, you can tell that Skeen wasn’t supposed to mention that. And from what’s been reported that one of the Morri said to them before the tip, it seems like Skeen was probably just trying to recover a bit by qualifying the “we heard they were buttholes” comment. I can’t PROVE that’s what he was doing, but given what one of the twins said before tip, I think it’s kind of logical.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 28, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll agree to disagree here but I will put the full quote up there instead of using my "logic" to infer things.
“I’d like to start off by saying that both of those guys are really good,” Skeen said. “They’re NBA talent, as everybody already knows. I respect both of them. I came in the game thinking that they were not so cool on the court and I thought they were some buttholes on the court — that’s what everybody told me, at least — but when I got on the court I found out they were really cool.”

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Mar 28, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

See below.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 28, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was pissed when the "Pullen, NIT quote" stuff happened.

Everyone always left off the final part of the quote..

“We’ve just got to grow up,” Pullen said. “That’s the biggest thing. The Big 12 is 16 games. We lost our first two. Nothing says we can’t win the rest.”

by WillieWannabe on Mar 28, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for truthy-ness.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 28, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I copied the quote from another board.

Didn’t watch the presser myself.

Doesn’t change the fact that they are buttholes.

by BracketCat on Mar 28, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to how the media works!!

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 28, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am SO freaking glad that the Thug Train was derailed today!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think about this for a minute

D. Scott Fritchen — “Butler AD Barry Collier on CBS College said the exposure from their NCAA Tourney run last year accounted for about $550 million in revenue.”

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I call bullshit

KSU’s budget in 2008-2009 was ~$731 million. There is no way any sporting exposure generates that much money in a single year.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barry Collier is using Lew Perkins math on that.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he's talking about free air-time and thinks like that.

Not actually dollars in the school’s pocket. George Mason threw out a similar “free air time” figure after their run.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 29, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the plus side...

KU can now hang a banner that says "Obama Bracket National Champions 2010 and 2011" to go with their two made-up Helms championships.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

From ESPN

Their recap of the game

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Oops it happened again.

Needless to say I just found out about VCU. So now who do I root for Butler or VCU? I mean they could blow the whole thing up and win it all as a play in team. Someone in the NCAA is probably not amused…and I love it.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, looks like at least one cheating UK will make it to the Final Four, anyway.

Too bad. I was looking forward to seeing how KU fans rationalized Roy winning a third national championship since leaving their fine institution of higher learning.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Man, who do you root for in the UK-UConn match-up?

I mean, they both cheat. Tough one. Might have to go with Kemba just because he’s so damn fun to watch.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

until he proves otherwise

I go with the vacate happens

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it happened before all teams were seeded.

But since every team started receiving a “seed”, I don’t think it’s happened.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

one side of the bracket where I want both teams to lose

and one side where I want both teams to win.

I call shenigans and we switch UConn and VCU.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh, GOD no!

The way it stands, one little guy is going to have a chance to create complete chaos no matter what happens. And, for one game, anything is possible.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really sad

that SDSU didn’t get through to the Final Four now… an SDSU vs Butler or VCU final would have had dozens of CBS execs in the emergency room for heart palpitations.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Mar 28, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is official

my bracket has completely died … no revival will happen.

2nd chance you say, again we have complete and total lack of life.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

even worse

the other group I’m in …. no teams left.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw on ESPN ticker that Tennessee just hired Cuonzo Martin from Missouri State.

Thought for sure they’d hold out for Shaka. Hey, Mizzou, he’s still available!

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont like that hire

I really think Tenn could have got someone bigger.

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Valid concern.

If that’s the case, I would have gone for Gregg Marshall. He wins more with less.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuonzo was 2-0 against Marshall and he's a minority hire.

At this point, Hamilton’s just trying to save his own bumbling ass.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but Marshall was doing it with his guys. Martin had some solid senior players leftover from the other regime.

I know we’re splitting hairs, but Marshall can do really well at a place where he doesn’t really have to recruit all that hard.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is Derek Dooley syndrome...

And what I argued against earlier in the thread.

If you are so hurt when another guy chooses another program, and you hire the ‘safe’ choice, you will ultimately fail.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was this guy thought to be considered for the Mizzou job?

Being in the state and whatnot?

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mizzou fans seemed all under the impression they were too good for this guy

Interesting Tennessee gobbled him up

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad they didn't get him.

This conference can only handle one Martin.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sour grapes make sweet, sweet whine -

“Probably the best game they played ever,” Markieff said. “Probably the best game ever as a school tonight. We let them. We let them beat us.”

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

This is why you lost Markieff.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha I'm sorry. I had to.

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't get over his profound arrogance

Did he not see what they did to Purdue? This team is no fluke.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, in all fairness, there were two games on today, so...

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Friendly piece of advice?

If you have an open wound, probably not best to pour vinegar into it.

This board will be like vinegar for a while.

by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

It IS fantastic, thank you for noticing!

Proud Kansas State 2009 Graduate, KMAN City Commission and County Commission Reporter.
EMAW 4 LIFE

by Joesus on Mar 27, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll let you have it

KU lost, its your most favoritist day of the year. Enjoy it.

I’ll go watch my national championship DVD while wearing my seven Big 12 championship t-shirts (yes, all at once).

Because basking in the glory of your own team is a lot more rewarding. Trust me.

Can’t wait to for next season, Big 12 will be wild. Going to be fun. Until then, keep it clean KSU fans

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that blowing KU out in Bramlage was a high point for most of us.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and blowing out KSU in the phog was... cool for us I guess

I’m not raining on your guys’ parade any more. Seriously, enjoy it. But we will be back damnit! We will be back…

(if/when the Morri go pro ignore what I just said for 2-3 years…)

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I was only making the point that today isn't our "most favoritist day of the year."

That hot mess in Allen is still maddening to me.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know I'm just being salty

I’m already looking forward to next season.

And praying we return the twins

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would they come back?

Is there some upside for maybe Markief to come back for one more year? But with Marcus, I don’t know why he’d come back.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

BUT, maybe with the whole lockout thing, their mom adopting Thomas Robinson, playing another year together, etc etc etc.

I mean, I think they go pro, especially Marcus, but if they returned I wouldn’t be TOO shocked, if that makes sense

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were a betting man,

I’d give it about 10 to 1 that Marcus returns, and about 2 to 1 that Markieff returns. Even if both go, KU will be alright. Self is a helluva coach, and T-Rob is going to be super next year, I think.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robinson will be a monster on the boards

And get a better offensive game, but replacing Marcus is going to be really hard. He is a matchup nightmare for anyone, and no one else has his balance of shooting, size, etc.

I mean even in the disaster we had today offensively he still had 20 points and 16 boards.

We could still be pretty good, but replacing Marcus is very, very tough

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

True enough.

And I think KU will lose probably 5 games in conference next year, but with the home-and-home format, 13-5 might be enough to still get a conference championship. I’m just hoping one of our young guys steps into Jake’s leadership role, since I don’t really see Jamar having that “leadership thingy”, as he so breezily put it.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that there will be 3 teams or so bunched between 11-7 and 13-5,

and another “tier” of 3 between 9-9 and 10-8. And the last “tier” of 4 won’t be TERRIBLE, and will give teams plenty of fits on home courts.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robinson is gone, man. That dude isn't coming back.

If I were a betting man, none of them will. Their entire frontcourt is gonzo.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think Robinson is built for the NBA right now!! Make him a late 1st round pick and he is gone. I might be crazy but I think he will have the longest stay in the NBA over the both Morris’s

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he comes back for another year,

I think he’ll be a potential lottery pick. If he goes now, I think he gets drafted in the second round, with the non-guaranteed contract that comes with it.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I think if he comes back next year then he has a good shot at POY in the Big 12. I think this kid can play.

"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

by JB-KState on Mar 27, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think Robinson is leaving?!?

From what I can tell, the HIGHEST anyone has him going is in the late first round. And I think there’s still a mock or two that has him not getting drafted.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't you go if you have a little sister to take care of?

I wish him the best, either this year or next.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I for sure KNEW I'd be going in the first round, where contracts are guaranteed, I would.

But, from what I’ve read, he’s not guaranteed that, so I think he should probably stay.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

some random nba draft website

said he was going pro, according to sources. so take that fwiw. That was posted yesterday though.

by WillieWannabe on Mar 27, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he goes in the first round, I don't blame him at all.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure the favorite KU day of the year was hammering UT in the conference tourney

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that and the Sunflower Showdown on the gridiron or was it KU/K-State in Manhattan.

We have had a lot to be happy about these past few months.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky

by Catbacker98 on Mar 27, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if you didn't have a bunch of folks telling how great you are

and how much we stink … there’d be less schadenfreude.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 27, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And its got to be somewhat hard to go 35-2 or whatever

Then lose a game from the Final 4. I think part of it is the regular season. You beat Texas and all these good teams, then lose to an eleven seed.

I’d probably feel the same way

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, to finish 35-3, and your three losses are @KSU, vs.UT, and vs... Virginia Commonwealth?!?

I don’t blame them for feeling that way at all. But I also don’t agree that VCU just played their best game ever, or however Morris put it.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fact bus a comin:

VIrginia Commonwealth shot 12 of 25 from three. In the first half, which ended up burrying us, they were 8 of 12 at one point. 8 of 12 from three.

We, on the other hand, were 2 of 22 from three… which is just asinine.

If anything, the Morris twins were the only reason we were in the game. They had no help. Reed 1-7 from three, Morningstar was like 0-5, etc etc.

VCU easily played their best game of the season. If it wasn’t, they wouldn’t have been an 11 seed.

Its not so much how well they played, its how poorly our offense played. They scored 71 points and played very well. But when you shoot 2-22 from three and like 15-28 from the line… well thats going to bite you in the ass

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCU shot .396 overall,and .480 from the 3-pt line.

That’s not their best game in either regard. I understand the Morri’s sentiment, but I just don’t think it’s true. This game was about a team that played hard, weathered the inevitable storm, and made some big shots at big times. Now, if you want to say that VCU’s first half performance was their best HALF of the season, that’s probably true. (I honestly don’t know, since I didn’t follow their team until tourney time.)

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that first half was just nuts

Like I said though, we have no one to blame but ourselves. If you shoot 2 for 22 from three and miss 13 free throws, even a team playing poorly can easily beat you.

If we played ok we might have pulled it out, but our guys just didn’t make shots. What can you do

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really thought VCU had a lot to do with the missed shots, though.

There were some open misses, but VCU guarded the perimeter pretty well, I thought.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some were, some were open too

But 2 of 22 is tough, even if the defense is good. And the free throws… just maddening.

Oh well

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 27, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The FTs, I'll definitely give you. KSU struggled with that early, and it's enough to make a guy insane.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do we not like Tyrel Reed?

He seems like a pretty decent kid, at least at the presser I’m watching. And I hate that they make these kids sit through the questions these dumbasses ask.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I mean, I know he plays for KU, but other than that?

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wore a Kirk Heinrich jersey on his visit to KSU

So, yeah, he sucks.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Contempt and condescension toward KSU + asshole smirk + phog jersey = hateable phoggie player

The equation goes something like this:

a + b + c + d + … = hateable ku player.

In the context of sports fandom, you don’t have to hijack a car to be hateable.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Mar 28, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's douche-y, for sure.

But aren’t MOST 16 and 17 year old boys kind of douche-y? Still, I’d never heard that story before (for some reason), so at least now I know why lots of Cat fans don’t seem to think very much of him personally.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 28, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, am I a bad fan for liking Bill Self?

I just can’t help it, for some reason.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Shhh!

BC and PJ will come by with a blanket party if they see you’ve written that.

I feel the same way though. He’s not a massive POS like Cal or Pitino, he’s not Satan as a bball coach like Coach K (tell me he doesn’t look just like Satan!), and he actually coaches D, unlike Roy. I really respect him and the job he has done, and I like how he coaches.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 27, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

You’re probably right!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him, actually.

I have no issue with Bill Self other than the fact that he coaches at KU.

When they hired him, I was pissed because I thought he was a slam dunk.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Mar 27, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah.

I just think he comes across as a pretty classy guy.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 27, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to get KState fans analysis on this

Seems to me that most KState people I know, even the ones who hate KU the most, have respect for Self and drop lines like “I hate KU, but I respect Bill Self” or “Self makes it harder to hate KU” etc.

YET, KState fans seem to absolutely DESPISE Roy Williams, with a passion.

Is it the Roy phoniness? Just his general demeanor? I’m just wondering. I never followed KU much until I knew I was going there/went there, and by then Self was taking over. So I don’t have much of an opinion on the guy, other than he was a part of our history, made some Final 4s, had some sweet teams, never won a title.

Just interested to get an opposing fans viewpoint, on how Self gets a pass but Roy doesn’t. I’m not disagreeing with it, I love Billy Boy and Roy…well… whatever, just interested.

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 28, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might be interesting to do some sort of 1-70 thing

Get KU, KState, Mizzou and maybe other Big 12 school bloggers to comment on coaches they like/hate the most in the league and why, past and present. For example, I absolutely can’t stand Scott Drew from Baylor, yet root for Turgeon since he is a KU guy. Thats an easy one I guess…

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 28, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never hated Roy Williams.

I didn’t LIKE him, but he didn’t inspire loathing. I think a lot of KSU fans I know felt like Roy bullied the Big 12 officials quite a bit, and cried a lot (in more ways than one).

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 28, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hated Roy Williams' demeanor...

…because he was a complete phony. He played up the aw-shucks personality (that Coke commercial was 100% cheese), but you could tell it was an act.

That said, I love the style of ball that Roy Williams’ teams play. Up-and-down, fast-paced basketball is the way I learned to play the game, and it’s the style I favor.

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Mar 28, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The commercial where he said "my mom worked to buy me a coke" or whatever?

I think I remember that… kind of.

A lot of people loved the high-paced games under WIlliams, and I think that also resulted in a lot of KU fans because they loved the high scoring tempo.

The lack of defense though was a bit concerning.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 28, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is the lack of D that keeps me from truly respecting him, as I do Self or Coach K

I dislike the phoniness too, so if you combine those you get a coach that I don’t respect or like, the antithesis of Self.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - General George S. Patton

by Sean T on Mar 28, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also heard the "phony" thing from a lot of people.

Personally, I think he genuinely cared about his players, but I agree that the whole “aw shucks” thing seemed like a bit of a tired act.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 29, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

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