BRACKET BLOG: Elite Eight (NCAA Open Thread)
Feel free to use this post as an open games thread for today's Elite Eight action.
Previews after the jump.
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The Teams
- No. 1 seed Kansas Jayhawks
- No. 2 seed Florida Gators
- No. 2 seed North Carolina Tar Heels
- No. 3 seed Connecticut Huskies
- No. 4 seed Kentucky Wildcats
- No. 5 seed Arizona Wildcats
- No. 8 seed Butler Bulldogs
- No. 11 seed Va. Commonwealth Rams
The Sites
- Anaheim, Calif.
- New Orleans, La.
- Newark, N.J.
- San Antonio, Texas
East Region
No. 2 North Carolina (29-7) vs. No. 4 Kentucky (28-8)
March 27 | 4:05 p.m. CST | Newark | CBS
Jim Nantz | Clark Kellogg
How They Got Here:
No. 2 North Carolina 81, No. 11 Marquette 63
No. 4 Kentucky 62, No. 1 Ohio State 60
The blue-bloods of college basketball meet for a rematch of a December game that UNC won by two points at home. But those were two totally different teams than the ones that will meet today, so that games tells us little.
Both squads are stocked with freshmen and sophomores who have no experience at this level (considering UNC's sophomores missed the tournament last year), but Kentucky actually might have a slight experience advantage thanks to the heady play of veterans Josh Harrellson, DeAndre Liggins and Darius Miller.
Both coaches have multiple Final Fours on their resume (at least theoretically, considering all of John Calipari's have been vacated), so I don't see an edge for either squad there. I suspect the game will come down to the last possession, just like the previous Kentucky-Ohio State game did.
GAMER: Kentucky 74, UNC 73
Pomeroy: Kentucky 73, UNC 71
Sagarin: Kentucky 73, UNC 72
Southeast Region
No. 2 Florida (29-7) vs. No. 8 Butler (26-9)
March 26 | 3:30 p.m. CST | New Orleans | CBS
Gus Johnson | Len Elmore | Reggie Miller
How They Got Here:
No. 2 Florida 83, No. 3 BYU 74 (OT)
No. 8 Butler 61, No. 4 Wisconsin 54
I disagree with the three predictive systems that think Florida will win today. Sure, the Gators never have lost in the Elite Eight, but there's a first time for everything. I wouldn't want to be between Butler and a second straight Final Four.
While UF is very athletic and playing some pretty good basketball right now, I'm on the record as disapproving of the Gators letting the BYU game go to overtime.
I blame an ongoing bugaboo — Kenny Boynton and Erving Walker have a propensity to take a lot of bad shots early in the shot clock, instead of working the ball in to Vernon Macklin, Chandler Parsons and Alex Tyus consistently enough.
The masters of mimicry that are the Butler Bulldogs will expose that flaw, trust me. Brad Stevens probably has spent the last 36 hours doing nothing but drawing up defensive looks that will make the Florida guards salivate to shoot it.
The onus will be on Matt Howard and Andrew Smith to rebound the resulting misses, and I like their chances to do it.
GAMER: Florida 70, Butler 66
Pomeroy: Florida 68, Butler 64
Sagarin: Florida 66, Butler 63
Southwest Region
No. 1 Kansas (35-2) vs. No. 11 Virginia Commonwealth (27-11)
March 27 | 1:20 p.m. CST | San Antonio | CBS
Marv Albert | Steve Kerr
How They Got Here:
No. 1 Kansas 77, No. 12 Richmond 57
No. 11 VCU 72, No. 10 Florida State 71 (OT)
Can VCU continues its improbable Cinderella run and exceed the feat accomplished by its conference mate, George Mason, five years ago?
To do so, the Rams will have to topple their biggest BCS giant yet: Kansas, the only remaining No. 1 seed and overwhelming favorite to cut down the nets in Houston, thanks to having the lowest-seeded road to the national championship game in tournament history.
But if KU already is looking ahead and counting its Jayhawks before they've hatched, VCU has proven four times that it's perfectly capable of springing the upset.
The Rams will need Joey Rodriguez and Brandon Rozzell to play their best games of the season, and they will have to dictate tempo, as well, because I don't see any way they can contend with Thomas Robinson and the "MAARESS twins" (as Marv says it) if they're forced to play a half-court game with Kansas.
Gotta get out in transition...
In the end, I suspect VCU will hang with KU for about 30 minutes, but the Hawks' superior depth and interior size will wear the Rams down in the final minutes and secure about a 10-point win.
GAMER: Kansas 76, VCU 66
Pomeroy: Kansas 81, VCU 68
Sagarin: Kansas 75, VCU 65
West Region
No. 3 Connecticut (29-9) vs. No. 5 Arizona (30-7)
March 26 | 6:05 p.m. CST | Anaheim | CBS
Verne Lundquist | Bill Raftery
How They Got Here:
No. 3 UConn 74, No. 2 SDSU 67
No. 5 Arizona 93, No. 1 Duke 77
It's hard to bet against Jim Calhoun and Kemba Walker when the Final Four is so close they can taste it, but I really like Arizona's chances in front of what will be a home crowd.
Keep in mind, the Wildcats had to beat Duke and Texas to get here. That's no small potatoes. Similar defensive and offensive efforts should be good enough to get the win against a Huskies team that isn't as deep as those two were.
And as good as Walker is, I'm not so sure Derrick Williams isn't better. He shoots a higher percentage from the 3-point line and he's certainly a much better interior player.
Williams' last two games have been off the charts and likely will elevate him to becoming the No. 1 overall NBA draft pick. Another game like that will send him to Houston.
And if that happens, Mike Anderson will be the only coach in the country making $2 million or more without a Final Four appearance on his resume. Absurdity reigns.
GAMER: UConn 69, Arizona 68
Pomeroy: UConn 73, Arizona 70
Sagarin: UConn 71, Arizona 70
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On Butler and rebounding:
watch the game today and see how few “box outs” Butler misses on. After watching Thursday’s game, it hit me that one of the primary reasons Butler is so good is how well they do at defensive rebounding. They just don’t miss their box outs, and that is because their straight up man D allows them always to be in a position to box out the man each one of them is guarding.
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How good is Mack?
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6 min left in the game and Bulldogs coming back
Fla should be up by 18. This Butler team does not panic. So well coached.
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Where is everybody?
no action here – I’m bored!
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Poise
the Butler team has poise. They should not even be in this game with the talent Fla has, and yet ….
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the audio goes out at 2:30 left
and I am not getting the call – anybody else?
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I don't like the t/out with 9 left on the shot clock
Fla defense too tough on an inbound play. We’ll see how good Stevens is
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Butler is about ready to mind trick another...
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
not a good play for FL
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
That last Florida possession was flat terrible.
Florida cannot advance to play KU. Please, God, let Butler win. The Gators have no killer instinct.
20 seconds of dribbling to create a 20' shot
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Brad Stevens just told Donovan that....
these are not the droids you are looking for.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Well there was really no other explanation for that last series...
unless Vegas was involved…seemed like epic FAIL to me.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
With Butler shooting 50% from the stripe
Fla should have won this by at least a dozen. Butler should not even be in this game
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Missing the last free throw actually was a good play.
If Florida is down 1, they would have been more desperate for a good play and might have thrown it in to Macklin. Hard to think they wouldn’t have scored then.
Instead, they were comfortable to play for overtime and take a crap shot.
Mizzou please do not cast your eye towards Stevens.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
don't think it is likely
He seems to be where he wants to be.
Mizzou could throw money at him but not sure that is his motivation.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
then again we thought Kruger was at K-State for good.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, N Carolina, Ky, KU, everybody wishes stevens would give them a look
the guy is money
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He's an Indiana boy.
The only job he’s going to leave the Bulldogs for is maybe the Hoosiers.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
BU has to fould Macklin out soon
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how gutsy is this Butler team; offensive rebound and a foul
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Elmore agrees with YOU
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Ding Dong.
Hi I am Brad Stevens…may I have your wallet?
Umm…sure.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
by Catbacker98 on Mar 26, 2011 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
ticky tack friggin foul!
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MONEY 3 pt play
Gus on the call
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How good as this stuff?
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Like
Players for FL and Butler seem to be playing hard and being respectful to each other.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
all most as good as the Xavier game
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Butler says act like you been there before.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Someone poured GUSOLINE on the fire!!!
by BracketCat on Mar 26, 2011 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
lol
how does Gus get all these great games?
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he has to make up for all of the B1G games....
during the regular season.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
How is that B1G doing by the way?
- RPI conference my arse.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
clever
+1
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
foul macklin as soon as he touches the ball
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players FAIL
no way that was not drawn up to go inside first
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UNBELIEVABLE! arrow favors Butler; that was a bad shot
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not sure what Donavon is thinking
25-30’ shot with that much time left?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
his players failed him there
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You just know Florida's gonna make a 3 here and force double overtime.
Gus wouldn’t have it any other way.
would have loved to see that last heave go in
that would have been the shot of the century.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Butler is my next favorite team now, for all time
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yep
do they have a blog? If not can we adopt them for the rest of the tournament?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I've been rooting for them since they beat Old Dominion.
Where you Johnny-come-latelies been at?
rooting for previous opponents of our arch-rival.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Just SB Nation Indiana and Mid-Major Madness.
I’ll have TB spread the word that we’re this week’s unofficial home blog for Butler fans / KU BB haters.
KU you are officially on alert...
here comes another B team.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Walgreens will sell out of Valium in Lawrence this week
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how old is Stevens? 33-34?
this is ridiculous the poise and steady demeanor the guy has. Butler should have been out of that game with 10 minutes left in the 2nd half.
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And now the Jedi faces his greatest challenge...
…stopping the Evil Empire and its Hawk Star.
by BracketCat on Mar 26, 2011 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Great metaphor! Rec the hell out of this!
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I give Butler a real chance agaisnt KU
1. Stevens has a week to game plan;
2. BU will not be in awe of KU hype;
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And of all the teams remaining, Butler is the one the Hawks are most likely to overlook due to the name on the jersey.
I would normally agree,
but I don’t even think the Jayhawks could be so arrogant now to overlook these guys; an aura is developing around this team; this coach.
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I had no idea Zona was this athletic and flat out good.
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They're stunning. I would love to see them in a rematch with KU because they should have won the first time.
But I’d much rather KU doesn’t even make it that far, of course.
this could be a Zona blow-out; make the Big (sl)East(P) look
silly
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Bracket, do you
have any explanation for how Butler hung in there; they should have been blown out. I mean, really.
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Two things:
They play to their strengths and they know how to win.
I thought Donovan coached terribly down the stretch. He let his team settle for jump shots and they totally forgot about Macklin, who Butler NEVER had an answer for.
It reminds me of how we forgot about Curtis in the second half last year against them. Must be more Stevens Jedi wizardry.
Brad Stevens is a f---ing ninja.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Truly, it is insane the upside for this kid - (calling a 2-time final four
coach a kid)
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Brad Stevens: born October 22, 1976,
or 2 1/2 years after me. That’s nuts.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He was born 5 months after I graduated from KSU!
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I halfway expected that he would have a 1980s birthday.
He looks more like a 20-something than a 30-something.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott
did you get to watch the game? It was nuts from the 6 minute marker to the end. Gus was on fire. Almost as good a call as last year’s Xavier game.
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Yeah, I got to watch it, but was away from the computer.
Gus is completely brilliant. I could listen to him all day.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
UConn's shot selection there was crap
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UConn's shot selection is often pretty sketchy.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we were premature in our glee to bury UConn.
they just went up 19-18.
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Miller should have called a timeout well before the under-8.
No reason to give up a 9-0 run and the lead like that.
how many does he have - I dozed off
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We have to remember,
Butler plays in a gym that seats 5,000. Amazing.
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OT: Could someone please tell me how Jimmer Fredette is projected to be a top-half of the first round draft pick,
and Jake is at best a second-rounder? Fredette has maybe 2 or 3 inches in height on Jake, but doesn’t play good defense. He’s going to be a HUGE bust in the pros.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
perception
You’ll hear a bunch in the media that is not necessarily what the teams are thinking.
Jake is a good role player, so he will get looks from a bunch of teams and if the team has a good development coach then there might be more upside than you expect.
Jimmer and Jake are both in the Steve Henson area of the NBA (which I do not follow). Good/Great college players but just not in the freaks of nature category in athletic ability.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is my theory
1. Jimmer can get his shot off from anywhere. The pick and pop; true 3 point NBA range. I don’t think Jimmer will be a huge bust, like Morrison from Zaga has been.
2. However, I think if Jake gets with the right team, he could be a 6 to 10 minute a game guy for 6 to 9 years in the NBA, based on his reliable offense and his stellar defense. Jake could be the kind of “stopper” you send in to shut down a Nash, or a Kidd. It would actually be to Jake’s advantage to not get drafted; then he could go to a team that really could use his talents.
3. I think it is too bad that our coaching staff did not have Jake work on getting good at the quick “pop” shot mid range jumper. He has the shot; he just needed to refine it. But, I really think Jake has a shot in the NBA>
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Plus, Jake's good character and basketball smarts
will make him useful as a “practice” player. Ed Nealy stuck around in the NBA for like ten years because he was good competition for the starters in practice. That’s the story I heard from good sources on Nealy, anyway.
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Shelvin Mack is a more complete player than Jake and Jimmer
Mack will have a good NBA career
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It might be better
for him to not get drafted but I really hope he does. I want KSU to have another player drafted and I think his name being called would put a cherry on top to just a great 4 years.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Zona was really lucky to get to halftime only down 7, all things considered.
They’re almost too reliant on Williams at this point. But I guess UConn is the same way with Kemba.
That last 3 really hurt. Being down 7 looks a lot worse than being down 3.
Not only is Stevens a genius, but he's humble, too.
He said after the game that Donovan out-coached him, but he was thankful he had great players.
I disagree with the former assessment, FWIW, but certainly not the latter one.
Zona making a run
but this has been an ugly game.
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Terrrible last possession.
Arizona contracted Florida-itis on that one. Why play for the win when you can force overtime, where you would have an advantage in the foul differential?
Maddening. That’s why Calhoun’s a better coach than Miller.
yeah, I was wondering about that also.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 26, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I've always felt like, if I have the shooters, I want to play for the win.
And I like that they actually got a couple of really good looks at it.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 26, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Of Course.....
Brady McCollough — “Kansas now officially has the easiest path to a national championship BY SEED in tournament history.”
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Oh thanks Cpt. Obvious...
Way to step out there McCollough.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
I started laughing
when I read this on twitter. DUH. lol
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP

















