BIG 12 TOURNAMENT OUTLOOK: 03.11.11 (Open Game Thread)
It will be North vs. South in the final Big 12 championship game for the conference in its current two-division incarnation.
Which North team will face which South team still is somewhat up in the air, although there certainly is at least one obvious front-runner for those positions.
We'll get those answers tonight.
Feel free to migrate here as a live discussion thread tonight, if you want, since Ahearn Alley and I sort of pushed the other one down the page.
Discussion and predictions after the jump.
Note: Both of today's games will air on the Big 12 Network.


6 p.m.: No. 1 Kansas vs. No. 5 Colorado
- BracketCat: Kansas 82, Colorado 68
- GAMER: Kansas 78, Colorado 64
- Pomeroy: Kansas 86, Colorado 71
- Sagarin: Kansas 83, Colorado 70
Well, good for you, Buffies. You made it into the NCAA Tournament. Now enjoy your final game as a Big 12 member, because I assure you that KU is going to kick you into next week, literally.
How can I be so sure? Because KU had a horrid shooting effort yesterday against Oklahoma State. Whenever that happens, you almost can bet house money that thee Jayhawks will come out strong the next day.
Add to that a Colorado team that will be playing its third game in three days, both relatively hard-fought, and what will be a chicken-packed Sprint Center, and you have the makings for a potential blowout.


2 p.m.: No. 2 Texas vs. No. 3 Texas A&M
- BracketCat: Texas 71, Texas A&M 64
- GAMER: Texas 70, Texas A&M 63
- Pomeroy: Texas 66, Texas A&M 58
- Sagarin: Texas 78, Texas A&M 71
Texas appeared to rediscover its stingy defense during a laugher against Oklahoma, highlighted by Dogus Balbay's excellent block of a Cade Davis layup.
That's bad news for Texas A&M, which failed even to keep it close in either match-up against Big Brother this year.
But the Aggies played quite possibly their best game of the season last night in demolishing Missouri, so maybe they'll give the Longhorns more of a battle this time. I certainly hope so, or I might be leaving the "ol' glass bowl" early to get some shuteye.
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In the Utopian world...
We win vs. CU.
OSU beats KU.
K-State beats OSU
aTm wins vs. UT
KSU wins the tourney over aTm thereby avenging all earlier losses in the year.
And then of course my alarm clock went off this morning and we had still lost in the opening round.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Is anyone even watching this?
I tell you what, I don’t feel as bad about our loss after seeing this first half. Win or lose, Colorado might be the hottest team in the country right now, and even Bill Self is having some trouble figuring them out so far.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2011 6:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
annnnd then KU wakes up.
seems like the fatigue factor finally kicked in for CU.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't get to watch, but
I’d say that the difference probably had something to do with halftime defensive adjustments, which Self does well, and Frank not as well.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 11, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone going to be around for the TX vs aTm game??
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Cory Higgins...
was 1-11 tonight for 6 points against KU. Where was that last night?? Guess I should expect that considering KSU always gets everyone’s best shot.
/sarcasm
I got money say Mark T gets a T in this game
He whines so freaking much
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Looks like it's chippy out there.
People pushing each other going into that last timeout.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Who presents the most problems in a matchup with KU?
Texas or aTm? Have to remember TX beat KU after most KU players were up all night with T Rob
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I'd say Texas
Although KU would want payback pretty bad.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Texas does for sure
Every time we play A&M under Turgeon the story has been the same: its an ugly game, and we win by ten.
Texas gives us a lot of matchup problems (their strength inside, Brown’s shooting ability, etc). Texas scares me still. Its a perfectly designed team to give us fits
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 11, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
If KU plays like it did in spurts today,
it won’t matter. I’d say KU by 12.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Best prediction ever?
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 13, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Thompson looks very unhappy
and its only 7min in
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
and he just elbowed a guy in the face!!
Saw that one coming
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Harris was in way too close...
i understand the need for the elbow rule, but damn.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
And their not afraid to push you around
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Strong take by Joseph
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
One thing i have a problerm with
is how fast the refs are calling jump ball these days. At least it seems fast to me…
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
i think it's just a bail out call myself..
players know you dive on the pile, they’ll call it.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
They did call one against Mizzou last night when a guy dove into another player going for a loose ball
and one tonight against CU for diving into Reed. But in general, I agree. If a guy’s on the ground with the ball, the other team treats it like a fumble.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
11 min left in BYU game
Jimmer has 37 of their 55 pts
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
of course he has taken 26 of their 51 shots
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
saw he had like 33 at half...
such a ball hog .lol
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
He has shot ZERO free throws to this point
or so the box score says that i am getting all this info from
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
did you see what he did or said?
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
they called an offensive foul
and i think he was just ripping into a ref. Still miss the neckbrace.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Whenever someone says his name thats what I think of
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
How the hell did Mich St
Beat the crap outta Purdue?? The Izzo factor must have been in play
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
i don't know...
Looks like they are wildly inconsistent. Sound familiar?
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
I use to compare KSU and MSU to eachother for a lot of the year
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Because in a tournament setting, Tom Izzo could grab five guys off the street
And still make a deep run. Freaking Spartans in the big dance are like cockaroaches. When the dust settles and the world ends, they will still be there
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Mar 11, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he gets a ton of love on ESPN
but he’s earned it.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
he has 35 of their 65 shots
Any player worth anything could put up the points he does with that many shots. I dont have him as POY do to the fact he gets every shot
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I don't think that's true.
Any player worth anything could put up the points he does with that many shots.
A points/FGA ratio of 1.5 or so is outstanding. It’s like getting 10 points on 7 shots or so, which is very efficient. I’m not a huge Jimmer guy, but getting 52 on 30-something shots is VERY impressive.
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 11, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
I will have to take your word on this
As I really dont know…. It just seems like Pullen could put up those points if he shot 37 times. Although I think Pullen would shoot more then one FT
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
well if pullen played like he did the other day...
it would take him 50 shots to get to 52 points.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
JB
your purple colored glasses are ON with this one. Agree on the f/throws. Jimmer is a once every 12 year kind of guy for a scorer, at his size.
oh hail the Purple and White
True
and for some reason I am anit-Jimmer…. I really dont know why I just am
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
I don't blame ya.
I respect him, but not a fan.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Same reason people hated Psycho T.
The kid plays hard and does some great things but the media goes a little overboard with it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Big Ten = boring and unwatchable
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
Penn St 36 Wis 33 FINAL Jimmer 37 shots
Jimmer shot more then they scored.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
by JB-KState on Mar 11, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
were they bouncing a bowling ball
this is sick.
oh hail the Purple and White
And now, freaking Lunardi has ugly-ass Penn State in over Alabama.
Some of these “bracketologists” need to step away from their computer screens and watch a damn game!
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 11, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
CRAZY ending to the VT vs FSU game
FSU got McGrudered.
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
just saw that..
closest replay ive ever seen.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
EVER
or at least this year. lol. I feel FSU’s pain however VT winning helps our RPI
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
that 45 secs when they were watching the replays...
wow talk about crazy nerve racking.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I was just about to post this same thing.
VT winning helps our RPI
"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp
by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 11, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
should lock them into the tourney,
or so people are saying.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN right now!!!!
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP
yay.
another overtime. Gotta love march madness.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
and if you dont want to be done with bball after this game
it appears FSN has a Pac 10 game on in the 1st half….. I however will be checking out as its Fake Pattys day in the ville tomorrow
"To all the fake fans that just jump on and off the bandwagon who think we suck go cheer for somebody down the road then" -JP















