K-State Slate: 12.5.11
by TB on Dec 5, 2011 7:15 AM CST
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I know last night was frustrating, but did K-State have one helluva a weekend, or what? The volleyball team advanced to the Sweet 16 by beating Nebraska, in Lincoln. As one of Missouri's bloggers put it, that would have been an impressive win even if the game had been played in Kite's and K-State would have had two extra players on the floor. Then the football team beat Iowa State to finish 10-2 and the women's basketball team beat Iowa in overtime. Finally, the men's basketball team got a road win over what looks like a solid Virginia Tech team on Sunday. Not bad.
K-State Football
K-State gutted out a 30-23 win over Iowa State after a 90-minute weather delay in Manhattan. The weather delay, for a December 3rd game, was due to lightning.
Raphael Guidry dedicated his senior day performance to his late father, and then went out on the field and delivered a performance to be proud of. The senior blocked an ISU extra point and intercepted a tipped pass before leaving the game with an injury in the second half.
The Wildcats will travel to Dallas and face Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl on January 6, 2012.
The Cotton Bowl is already sold out, and is one of the most expensive bowl tickets.
Stewart Mandel takes the Sugar Bowl to task for picking Virginia Tech over K-State.
While the BCS snub is a disappointment, the Cotton Bowl rivals the Sugar Bowl for history and tradition. And we have a great opportunity to prove the Big 12 belongs as the top conference in the country with a matchup against a very good Arkansas team.
K-State Volleyball
K-State pulled of one of the biggest upsets in NCAA Tournament history when it knocked off No. 2 Nebraska at the Nebraska Coliseum in Lincoln, Neb. The Wildcats now travel to Honolulu, Hawai'i, to face Pepperdine in the Sweet 16.
K-State Men's Basketball
Jamar Samuels led K-State in points (17) and rebounds (14) and helped propel the Wildcats to a 69-61 win over Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va.
K-State Women's Basketball
The Wildcats needed overtime to notch an 81-78 win over the Iowa Hawkeyes on Saturday evening at Bramlage. Should we start chanting "We own Iowa"? Or maybe make some "Iowa State Champions" t-shirts?
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You guys got hosed. Screw the BCS.
But congrats on a great season and best of luck in the bowl game.
We’ll be sitting at home wishing we had somebody other than political appointees running our school. Sigh.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
thanks...sorry our former player isn't working out well as an AD right now
At least he didn’t bring Shapiro with him, right?
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I'm really disappointed by the bowl snub.
Mandel makes the argument really well of why Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University shouldn’t have received the bid. Yes, the Cotton Bowl is a very good bowl, and it is actually after the Sugar Bowl. And yes, before the season I would have said a Cotton Bowl trip would be a dream compared to expectations. But this isn’t about whether the Cotton Bowl is a good bowl, or whether we expected to be in this position. The fact is, we deserved to go to a BCS bowl game. For that matter, so did Boise State. But Virginia Tech and Michigan got in not because of their accomplishments this year, but because of history.
The bowl system
is not about getting the “best” teams to play each other, it is about selecting teams so that the bowl sells tickets and that the tv is watched.
The BCS system is about matching the “1 and 2 teams” in the country, tying said game to 4 bowls and rotating the actual “1 vs 2” game between the 4 bowls. The other rules for selection are designed for these bowls to get match ups that they think are best for revenue and attention while making sure the conferences “like” this method. The conferences, including the Big XII, generally like this because they can garner more money and focus attention on the traditional “power” conferences rather than having a system similar to the vast majority of sports in the world.
I’m not disappointed in the least about a Cotton Bowl selection rather than the BCS. The Cotton Bowl was left out of the BCS system, so I’m glad we are going to it and I hope everyone from the youngest fan to HCBS shows up ready to win in a convincing manner.
I’m very proud of this team and the others that won this weekend. It is a great time to be a Wildcat.
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I am not disappointed in the Cotton but I am PO'd big time at the snub.
I would much rather watch Boise State/Michigan or Boise State/KSU than watching VaTech stink it up.
The Sugar Bowl is surviving on it’s past glory, because their match-ups in recent years have ranged from not very exciting to downright meh.
Love the Cotton Bowl though and if not for the snub and the money, would rather be there than anywhere else.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
The real problem I have with being passed up is the money difference
The sugar bowl will pay out about 17 million to each team, whereas the Cotton’s total payout is 7.25 million. The big 12 is getting shafted with only one team in. Maybe they looked at the fact that the big 12 had 8 teams in and did an estimate of total conference payout and balanced the crappy ACC with two BCS bids?
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
This is why Chuck Neinas and the Big-12 office
should be raising holy hell about the BCS pairings. Imagine if the Little-10 was in our current situation the $hit-storm that Greasy Jim Delaney would be creating. We need leadership from our Dallas office now more than ever.
I haven't verified this myself
but I saw a comment last night somewhere that mentioned the SEC does not have enough bowl eligible teams to fulfill all of it’s tie-ins (that could be because they get two in the NCG, though).
Furnace mentioned last night something that I had not thought of. SEC, ACC, PAC, and B1G all get 2 teams in the BCS. First time in BCS history that ACC gets 2 spots. Notice the Big East and Big 12 only get the Conference champion in (and if it had not been a rule, I think they would have left out WVU)? What are the two conferences that were on the chopping block in all of the conference realignment nonsense? Big East and Big 12.
Furnace suggested this might be to provide extra monies to the SEC and ACC to help defray the costs of the penalties that will have to be paid because of teams leaving the Big East and Big 12. Could be all bubkus and a coincidence, but seems a bit fishy to me.
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I used to work with a VT grad. I sent him an email this morning to get his thoughts on the bowl situation. Here is his response
Sugar Bowl selection caught us all off guard. The rationalization was the snub we received several years ago when Miami was still hot and played for MNC game. We were # 5 in BCS and were left out completely. So perhaps there is justice in the long term. Counting WVU, the Big 12 got 2 teams in.
The MNC game depends on what the objective is. I have always thought that winning a conference should be a pre-requisite. But if the stated goal is to get the 2 best teams together, then that goal was met this year IMO.
It will all start to become clearer with next BCS conference meeting in January. The one 2 weeks ago was merely a forum to allow all 11 conferences to express themselves. The process toward setting the criteria for the 2013 new BCS agreement will likely start in January.
The real issue is will there be 4, 5, or 6 conferences. I expect there to be a seeded plus 1 BCS with only the winners of 4 conference championship games playing. But if there are 5 (Big 12) or 6 (MWC/Conf USA combo) conferences remaining, it could be a plus 2 seeded arrangement. But I expect that the 4 or 8 teams will have to play in a conference championship game.
Before those chips fall, Notre Dame’s conference alignment needs to be resolved IMO. They are reported to be heavily leaning toward ACC IF (Repeat IF) they are convinced they cannot remain independent in football. It is my understanding that they have now gained that perspective and are actively (behind tightly closed doors) negotiating terms with the ACC.
The "full cost of attendance" issue is also involved. As I understand, the NCAA has approved the concept, and it is now out to all the member conferences at all levels for final national approval. 4, 5, or 6 conferences are likely to approve it. If that is the way it falls out, then I expect those conferences to split from the NCAA and take most or all of the hoops tournament with them.
Keep an eye out on ND, Big 12 teams/conf reaction to ND, and then the Big 10/PAC 12 reactions in sequence. IMO, the Pitt, Cuse, WVU, aTm, Mizz changes announced this fall would not have happened. I think (and hope) that all the Big 12 teams will find a conference home that works for them. But the Big East hoops and remaining "football" teams may find themselves outside the fence.
I am now suspicious that this year’s BCS game selections were influenced by all this. If one considers WVU part of the Big 12, then 5 conferences each got 2 teams in BCS. Just remember where you heard all this first. Jay Bilas comments at a VT kickoff dinner, and later on ESPN solidified the hoops portion of this. He compared the NCAA to the old AAU and the old NIT tourney. Butler, George Mason VCU, etc should have a path to be a Cinderella IMO, but I expect more of the new 64 BCS teams (4×16) to get in with only 12-16 at large teams getting in the hoops tourney.
Is it fair? No.
Will it put more $$$ in the 64 BCS teams wallet? Yes.
I expect the $$$$ to create an even larger divide than there is presently.
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Especially when those comments come from Jay Bilas
who is employed by ESPN.
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
No offense, Jeremy
But how connected is your friend? He seems to be pulling some of this out of his @$$. Notre Shame is actively pursuing membership in the ACC? Including in football? I’ll believe that when I see it. Also, tell him to please stop saying “with West Virginia the Big-12 got two teams in.” NO, absolutely not. WVU got in on the Big Least auto-qualifier, not as a Big-12 member. That would have been akin to saying TCU got into the Rose Bowl last year as a Big Least member. I’m sure this is a smart, good guy, but other than his first sentence where he gives us a take on Tech’s reaction this is a lot of regurgitation of media-driven SuperConference speculation.
I never said he was a friend... :)
He was a former co-worker.
And I have no idea why he thinks he is any more connected on the ND news than anyone else, but I know he travels to a LOT of the VT road games (he went to the VT game in Lincoln, as well as the Orange Bowl). He lives in Atlanta and still goes to all of the VT home games. I’m assuming he donates a good sum to VT.
I also don’t agree with his WVU statement, and when I responded to him I told him as much (I think BCS would have avoided them if they could have found a way, but since Big Least still has auto-bid, they got in).
Mainly I thought it was interesting the Jay Bilas would be saying things at a booster lunch that would hint at the direction things were going.
I was glad to hear him say he was surprised about the Splenda Bowl invite though. At least he wasn’t so full of himself that he expected it.
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Jay Bilas and these ESPN hacks
need to shut the hell up and go the f-ck away. They think if they sell a concept out in the public domain often enough that “poof”, it will happen overnight.
I cannot believe, so shortly after WVU and TCU joined the Big-12, that these a-holes are holding the same realigment/SuperConference discussion.
I am very proud of this team
And I have always loved the Cotton Bowl so I am thrilled KSU is going this year but I can’t get over the snub…am I completely off base for assuming that this is the BCS giving the finger to the the Big XII saying they want it to collapse so that schools like ISU, KSU and Baylor can stay “where they belong” in the background and that KU can become like Georgetown, a large school with great basketball whose football team competes at the FCS level? Cuz I feel like that is the message they are sending…
by Kohawk84 on Dec 5, 2011 9:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions
No, you are 100% completely right
The powers-that-be want the K-States, Baylors and Iowa States off the map so they can pursue their 64-team Super Conference wet dream without any irritants. The only reason they might want us hanging around is so we can serve as a doormat for the same 15-20 “name” schools promoted by the college football mothership. When we don’t act according to script they get pissed and send a message to us like the one they gave last night.
A second half tour de force from Jamar yesterday ...
That was Good Jamar at just about his absolute best. An unbelievable effort.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM CST reply actions
Agreed...
…its was another “here we go” moment when he picked up his first foul 40 feet from the rim and the subsequently picked up #2 not long after. But, he seemed to take it in stride and IIRC, played the rest of the game without picking up a 3rd foul. As aggressive as he was playing, that’s impressive stuff. If we can get him to maintain that energy (or even a portion of it) on a consistent basis this year, he’s going to be fantastic.
We definitely need to get our first half woes figured out, but the way those guys defended and played in the 2nd half give me a good feeling that this team hopefully is starting to get things figured out. Outside of Jamar, the team MVP yesterday was Scott Greenawalt. You could just tell we were wearing them down and that made a big difference in the end.
VTech looked gassed at the half time buzzer.
Just the look on their face was one of fatigue.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Fun stat -
Despite KSU’s miserable football history BS (Before Snyder), KSU actually has a winning record against Arkie. 3 – 1 all time.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
A lot of love from cfn.scout.com
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1135866.html – I’d take 31 – 27 over the Hogs. And we all know the Cats won’t win by more than a TD!
http://cfn.scout.com/2/557921.html – Les Miles and I’mamanGundy are Snyder’s only competition for COTY, and I’m glad to see scout realize how much Snyder deserves it.
And more complaining from media that doesn’t matter – http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/5/2611981/virginia-tech-sugar-bowl-2011-2012-bcs-rankings
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I'd like to be madder than I am.
I can drum up some nasty comments, but we’re going to the freakin Cotton Bowl people. Sucks that the BCS is bringing out my tinfoil hat, but they couldn’t be anymore blatant. ESPN doesn’t want to have to pay through the nose for the B12 rights in a couple of years.
Doing things like admitting top to bottom in the computer and human polls the B12 is the best football conference just adds zeros to the media rights. And God forbid a B12 team beats the mighty SEC for a Championship, they might actually, gulp, admit they were wrong. I find it rediculous that ESPN was so ready for the B12 to collapse but actually promoted the thought that the BEast should survive. I’d like to review ESPNs contracts with each conference, but I don’t need to to know which conference’s demise would hurt ESPN more financially.
Let get down to Dallas and kick some SEC butt…if you can find a ticket. You know, cause KSU doesn’t travel. Should be easy, amirite?
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
A nice preview of the game from our future opponent (who doesn't sneer at Manhattan either!)
http://www.arkansasexpats.com/2011/12/5/2612374/you-take-the-good-you-take-the-bad-the-facts-of-bowl-life – I like these guys already.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
Hey Blackcats
I bet you have the Arkansas fans scratching their heads there.
In other words, I don’t think you meant to say K-State is holding out for the Big Least.
Or did you (strokes beard thoughtfully while looking into space)?
by apewatcher on Dec 5, 2011 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never mind..,
…I think I get it.
by apewatcher on Dec 5, 2011 2:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was going to say...
I didn’t use that many big words. :-)
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I can't even...
…with the BCS at-large selections anymore. I’m too mad to rant effectively at this point. Mostly, I just hate that a conference that already suffers financially from having a few teams with poor demographics (incl. K-State) is about to suffer more because we got shut out of the big $$$ BCS payoff. And somehow the ACC gets it? WTF-ever.
Nothing else to say, except this:
As a Minnesota alum, it behooves me to tell you that the appropriate chant/slogan/t-shirt lettering for Iowa games is this: http://gophergear.spreadshirt.com/who-hates-iowa-A6843060
Props to Ubben today for using the word "screwed"
as to what happened to us. We all know he is right, but I’m impressed he said it just like it is.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
He should tell that to the money men behind the scenes at ESPN,
who pulled the strings to keep KSU out.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Dec 5, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Jesus H. Christ
http://goemaw.com/forum/index.php?topic=17202.0 – yeah, I know every group of fans has their idiots, but these people are an embarrassment!
“I am worried that people will associate them when they think about KSU football and I’d hate to hurt our national brand/image. We have the second most recognizable program behind Notre Dame and I don’t want to tarnish it.” – what planet is that dude from?
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
You did shower after visiting?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
That looks like classic goEMAW trolling.
Probably mocking KU fans from Phog who make similar claims about their sports programs.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
That does make more sense
Admittedly, I don’t know many idiots, but this was beyond any idiot I’ve ever known.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
Umm
I think the OP is just making heavy use of irony / trolling for Razorback posters to have fun with. Don’t take it too seriously.
I've never got the opinion of the folk over there as level headed
that looks about all the stuff I’m used to seeing out of them…sarcastic or not, that’s the reputation they have.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
good grief...
those are actually KSU fans?
Like, SERIOUSLY!?!?
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Holy Crap Farmegeddon has it's own wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmageddon_(football)
This name was coined as a joke, when did people start taking the name seriously.
by margibso on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
When the games were really good
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
Wel, the name wasn't coined as a joke.
It was coined by businesses as a marketing tool.
Us fans at the time (well, myself at least) mocked it and thought it foolish.
But somehow, someway, I have taken an extreme liking to it, and will not surrender it to anyone, least of all the Husker-Hawkeye faux rivalry.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 5, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Corn v Corn has nothing on Corn v Wheat.
Keep your faux rivalry away from our…faux rivalry.
A$$holes.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Plus, it doesn't even make sense
when you apply the name to Nebraska-Iowa. They’re not “farm” schools, or at least Iowa is not.
They need to stay the heck away from our marketing tool nickname.
I think Nebraska is definitely considered a farm school (among other things)
to do have a dam tractor proving grounds for heaven’s sake. I wish we had one of those here.
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Yeah, after I typed half the comment, I realized that Nebraska is both the flagship school and ag school in its state. Still, Iowa is definitely not a “farm” school, so the larger point stands. Farmageddon doesn’t make sense when applied to the Huskers-Hawkeyes context.
excerpt from wiki page
“Currently no trophy has been adopted for the game, but fans have shown interest in the potential of starting a traveling trophy. The trophy would most likely be based on the agriculture roots of the schools, potentially a bronze tractor, ear of corn, plow, etc. "
Who’s writing this?
I really like the idea of the "golden acre"
But, yeah, I don’t remember talking about that.
Wikipedia is edited by people who have the time and interest. This could hav ebeen written by anyone, a random fan who had that discussion with another random Iowa State fan, or even a businessman back when they were trying to generate more interest in the rivalry in an attempt to keep it at Arrowhead.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
You know...I kinda like the idea for the trophy
while not actually correct as far as real life is concerned, it could be something similar to the Cotton Bowl trophy where there are two pieces that intertwine. Except one would be a stalk of corn and the other would be a shaft of wheat. Crystal, or stainless of course, and they would not need to be green and gold like the real life items.
Or in the true spirit of Farmageddon, it could be a plaque with an image of a tractor with a mushroom cloud rising up behind it.
I think I like the first idea better.
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But you have cleverly fallen into their trap...
You are talking about it now, amiright? So sniky Wiki!
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
KU interested in Gus Malzahn
Things may be heating up at that school down by the river.
I don't know why Malzahn would take the job.
He’s a highly regarded assistant that would be a fine candidate for much better jobs.
He turned down Vandy last year...
about the same level job.
USC knockoff uniforms, none of the results (including probation)
Wide Right & Natty Lite | @widertnattylt
Why Virginia Tech should have been banned from BCS bowls forever...
They lost to K frickin’ U in a BCS bowl. That should be all the info you need to never let them go to a BCS bowl game ever again.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Arky's OC McGee just got hired at UAB and won't coach the Cotton Bowl
Not sure it will make any differrence but it is interesting none-the-less
Because I don't really want to join the SBN Arkansas site just to post in one thread
B/C face it after the bowl game, I’ll have likely no reason to do it ever again…
I want to say to any one of them who comes over here:
Swung through Fayetville back in September and loved the campus drive through I took. And also, during conference-realignmentpalooza I was desperately wanting you to Join our Conference.
To Sean T and Black Cats and Arkie Cat who are on there…if it ever comes up in representing our side of the story you can use my sentiments to help your case if need be.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I've taken a "Is he trolling or giving us a hard time" stance over there.
I’d love to have Ark in the B12 and have said as much already…kind of.
Go ahead and join over there, they don’t bite. Yet.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I really have no reason to join an Arkansas site myself.
That said, I did so this morning to try and persuade people on the one site that Go E-MAW was a bunch of losers who really understood little about what they were discussing, but just being typical idiot fans. I invited them over to Bring on the Cats to find out how real KSU fans truly felt about the match-up and the Hogs.
I came to Arkansas to retire somewhere where there wasn’t much snow. There are a lot of good people here and if you listened to the sports talk radio, the same number of idiots that troll the KS City Sports talk stations. They definitely love Arkansas Univ. I have a soft spot for Arkansas State because no matter what they do or how well they do it, they’re relegated to the fourth or fifth page of the paper.
I’m doing and will be doing my best to put the best face I can on the Cats in the Natural State.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
I like to reserve my SBNation comment milestones with something classy
like just saying, “Boobs.” But that’s just me…
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Farmageddon II, Ozarks edition.
Just a little bit of the Ozark Plateau in KS but enough that we can call it this.
Wheat vs Soybeans
Hay vs Lumber
Beef vs Pig, edition II.
We need to arrange a tailgating contest for the game although the Jerry World parking lot doesn’t open soon enough for a good long tailgate event.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 1:15 PM CST reply actions
I am on board with this.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 5, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
More like
Beef vs Chicken…sure their the Hogs but Arkansas in the Ag World is far more known for poultry.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
this is true
lots of egg laying operation as well as fryers. Tyson is based in Arkansas if I’m not mistaken.
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Let's hope their Hogs lay some eggs come January 6th
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BOYCOTT ESPN!
by Sean T on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It might be Wheat vs. Rice.
There really aren’t a lot of hogs grown in Arkansas. The Razorback mascot is really taken from a wild hog of Javelina. Arkansas leads the nation in rice production.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
I quantity.
Bushels per acre? Well in 2010, Kansas.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Who the fuck
Is growing Rice in Kansas?
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
A really awesome bio company.
They grow a protein that stops dehydration from diarrhea, the second leading cause of death in children in the developing world. A byproduct is a rice flour with similar properties that can tackle what leads to many causes of death, malnutrition. Imagine eating a slice of bread with the same amount of protein as a 4oz breast of chicken in a country where an average week’s protein intake is less than two chicken breasts.
It’s genetically modified so they have to grow it x number of miles away from other rice production, so they grow it here. They only have about 350 acres, but it grows really well apparently. I haven’t heard what this years totals looked like.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Well shit
I just walked into that buzzsaw of information and was slaughtered. Because knowledge is power.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
And knowing is half the battle...
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 6, 2011 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
the more you know .jpg
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 6, 2011 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
The humor continues
from a post on EDSBS: Wow Epic sports radio troll:
"I’m not gonna call it the Sugar Bowl. I’m calling it the Splenda Bowl because it’s phony"
still waiting on details about where that originated.
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions
I know this is a really pessamistic post
And for this I apologize but after the clear message the BCS sent the Big XII last night by keeping OSU out of the title game and taking an undeserving B1G and ACC team to the Sugar Bowl over Boise and KSU why wouldn’t Oklahoma try to bolt for the Pac next summer and drag OSU, UT and TTech with them to complete the Pac-16? If 2 teams from that conference get in every year with a guaranteed berth in the Rose Bowl every season. What could possibly be the draw of keeping the league together now?
by Kohawk84 on Dec 5, 2011 1:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well
Texas won’t go unless they can keep their little public access channel and the Pac12 won’t let them and they have no interest in OU or OSU without Texas. So now we need two teams with decent media footprints to join at the same time we renew our first tier rights. That could go one of two ways. First, ESPN buys them and we become the new SEC because they need to protect their investment JUST LIKE THEY DO WITH THE SEC AND BCS; or two, Fox or NBC out bid them and we have so much money we can throw M-80s at the BCS lit with Cleveland’s while having sex with their daughters in our Falcon 7Xs. I’m okay with either outcome, however prefer one.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Arkie -8.5 versus K-State.
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions
I love it.
Couldn’t be sitting any better.
Sweet.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
In other news, over at Arkansas Expats...
Their fans seem to be legitimitely afraid of HBCK. Terrified, actually.
As well they should be, because in all likelihood Collin is somehwere in the Flint Hills, wrecking bee houses and eating cobras, preparing for his eventual domination of the Hogs.
Honey Badger don’t give a shit.
#votewithyourremote
I just sent my method to Martin Manley at UFR
We’ll see if he responds to me.
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ESPN is reporting that
Les Miles is the leading candidate for COTY…
Words fail me.
"Thank you sir, may I another."
oh hail the Purple and White
...may I have another." [edit, FAIL]
oh hail the Purple and White
And how would the WWLIS know this?
do they have sources? Pre-polling?
oh hail the Purple and White
I have come to the conclusion that ESPN is basically La Cosa Nostra of the college sports world.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Dec 5, 2011 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
It definitely seems as if they manufacture the "news" to suit their liking.
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Kind of like manufacturing the BCS at-large bids to their liking
And manufacturing who belongs with the “name” brands of college football – also to their liking.
Lost a ton of respect for Kirk Herbstreit last night. A ton.
and manufacturing the hype for Heisman to their liking
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I had a thought this weekend at the game.
Would anybody else play along with me and start calling Iowa State and Farmageddon our chief rivals? Just to piss off KU now that they don’t get to claim Mizzou as their main rivals anymore? (And just to be clear: If you refuse to play someone, they aren’t your main rivals.) It might be a tough sell to convince Iowa State to play along, when they have a longstanding nonconference rivalry with Iowa.
I think ISU would go along
with being our “conference rival”. Iowa is their “in-state, non-conference rival”
I’m all for your suggestion.
There are actually a lot more similarities between KSU and ISU than KSU and KU. More reasons to want to destroy them in Farmageddon! lol
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Not me.
KU has always been my rival, and I don’t give a rats ass if the Beakers don’t want to acknowlege us as their rival. Screw them. We choose who we want to “hate” till the end of time, and for me, that is the squawks.
oh hail the Purple and White
think of it as another way to get under their skin
which is part of the rival. You an still hate them as much, just let them know that it’s not as big of a deal to beat them than Iowa State. That should piss them off more.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
this "KSU is not our rival" thing didn't exist in the 1960s, 70, and early 80s,
because back then we won about 45% of the basketaball matchups with them. Believe me, in that era, K-State was KU’s main rival in basketball, at least. The two schools’ fan bases hated each other when it came to basketball.
oh hail the Purple and White
see, that's the problem though
the youngsters haven’t experienced that though (not that I experienced it, but I am aware of the history)…anyone in college now has not experienced us being really competitive with KU.
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actually the KSU is not our rival thing doesn't exist outside of KC
well I might say draw a rectangle with the top right corner being Donophin County and the bottom left corner being Topeka…but anything outside of that rectangle it’s all KSU vs KU as the top rival in the state of KS.
and us sucking in basketball for the better part of 1994-2006 didn’t help matters much either.
But I was speaking tongue and cheek anyway just to give KU a dose of their own medicine.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I would agree with this,
except to add the caveat, “or some people who have spent significant amounts of time in that rectangle.” I have a friend who was born and raised in western Kansas, who insists that Mizzou is their “real” rival, a conclusion he apparently came to after attending KU and living/working in the KCMO area for several years. It’s just a meme they use to try to minimize the importance of it when they DO lose to KSU.
by Collin's Bloody Elbow on Dec 6, 2011 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
Ignorance is bliss they say
It also hides up your butthurtedness
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
yea, no one outside of the rectangle learns it until attending KU
And they roll with it. Think about it, I’d say 50-60% of KU’s enrollment is probably KCMetro kids. The other 50-40% is probably everyone else.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Congrats Coach Snyder!
You definitely deserve it!
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he does, but I'm not on Twitter for one
but as I understand it you can tell someone else does it for him, and he probably has less than a dozen tweets.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Congratulations Coach Snyder!
Thanks!
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Ned Seaton in the Mercury really brings it
in a great article. Everything he said is true. Not only was this team and their season remarkable, but they did it as a team with the sum being greater than the parts. My favorite KSU team – and my favorite KSU season since the magical ‘93 season, which I’m biased towards as I was there at the time.
great article from Seaton
expresses my setiments too.
oh hail the Purple and White
A friend on facebook made a sweet status, figured I'd share it with ya'll.
“AT&T Cotton Bowl: Arkansas vs. Kansas State. At the end of three quarters, Arkansas will have 400 yards, 20 first downs. Kansas State will have 140 yards and something like eight first downs. K-State will be ahead by three in a 17-14 game, and even if you watched the whole thing you will have no idea how any of this happened. A connoisseur’s pick if you like watching old chess masters like Bill Snyder fend off attacks with three pawns, one knight, and a king.”
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
thanks - this is a nugget!
oh hail the Purple and White
that's from Spencer Hall on SBNation for his bowl preview guide.
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 5, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
He is one funny man
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
agreed
I lol’d several times.
He’s not a big fan of the rematch either. :)
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I may have a theory of another reason why the Sugar bowl picked Virginia Tech and Michigan over K-State
Since 1972 the Sugar Bowl has always had at least one team south of the Mason-Dixon line, the Sugar Bowl may have had some internal pressure to pick a southern-ish team rather than match up two teams from northern states.
Does anyone know?
I was curious if the Volleyball Sweet 16 would be on ESPN 3? I could bother to look it up but I won’t.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
I was wondering myself if there would be any way to see the match.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 5, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like it WILL be on ESPN3
at 9:00 pm central.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
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