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K-State Slate: 12.30.11

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Not a lot out there today on K-State, so this will be a bit of a grab bag. Happy New Year!

Alamo Bowl

Baylor and Washington put on one of the greatest displays of offense I've ever seen, and the Bears beat the Huskies, 67-56. The teams combined for nearly 1,400 yards, 123 points, and 17 touchdowns. Some people were less impressed.

Pac-12/Big 10 Alliance

Frank the Tank takes a look at the new scheduling alliance between the conferences that traditionally provide the Rose Bowl participants.

Big 12 Basketball

KU rolled over Howard in an 89-34 laugher last night in Lawrence. The Bison travel to Manhattan to face K-State on New Year's Eve.

Oklahoma couldn't hold on and lost to Cincinnati, 56-55.

Texas A&M only beat some team called "Arkansas Tech" by 18. Is that more cause for concern for the Aggies, or am I underestimating Arkansas Tech?

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Baylor

All I can say after watching that game, is that Baylor has got to have the worst defense in the history of college football to win 10 games.

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by mystman995 on Dec 30, 2011 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

Both teams were pretty bad on defense

but yeah, for a team that won 10 games this season, that is an atrocious defense.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

It kind of reminds me, in a way, of the Pirate's Tech Teams.

So much emphasis on offense – and it’s almost apparent that defense is an afterthought. At one point of the game, the announcer acknowledged that the Baylor secondary looked completely lost on their zone defense. He chalked it up to bad coaching – I agree 100%.

But hey, the got a 10-win season and a Heisman trophy winner with that mentality. Baylor needed some sort of identity and they got it.

If you said to mentioned: Baylor, 10 wins, Alamo Bowl victory, AND Heisman winner in the same sentence five years ago, I would have told your mother you need to wear a helmet at all times.

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by mystman995 on Dec 30, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think I ever saw Tech defenses that abysmal

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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by MeatGeek on Dec 30, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

No - but I was refering to the emphasis on offense.

Tech’s defense wasn’t that bad, but their offense was their team. They weren’t going to try and shut you out, just try to score more points than you.

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by mystman995 on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

And Tech's defenses were actually starting to come around in Leach's last few seasons.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Credit his DC who is now the HC at ECU.

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by Catbacker98 on Jan 1, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if Bennett gets a few more years and starts getting his personell in there

that might start to turn around. But like any coaching change there needs to be a purging of sorts. Look how long it’s taken to purge RP people.

Now I’m not saying they’ll have a top25 defense, but this year for him has been so much about working with what he’s got. If Briles won’t let Bennett recruit some better kids on the D, Phil probably starts to go packing.

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by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Howard Game

Here is hoping we can put as large of victory margin on Howard as KU. However, so far this year when playing poorer teams we play down to there level.

by pccat on Dec 30, 2011 8:42 AM CST reply actions  

Frank likes to "Frank" his own teams

I’m not sure entirely that it comes down to “playing down to their level” it’s more Frank making sure we do so he can prove a point. But yeah I’ll be suprised if we don’t win by at least 35.

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by MeatGeek on Dec 30, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

If your guys show up, you will...

Howard is about as bad a team as I’ve seen. I really don’t think they ran an offense.

by hiphopopotamus on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Mark it down ...

This game will, indeed, be Franked. If he has to, he’ll bring the walk-ons in for 10 straight minutes because the scholarship players “are playing like fifth graders”.

KSU will win by less than 25.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Even in Hawaii when we were playing very well

our guys took their foot off the gas. I don’t know if they don’t want to embarrass teams, or if they shift into a highlight mentality when we get up big, or start playing selfish, or what exactly, but I would be very surprised if we beat Howard by 30+ and I don’t think there is any way we beat them by the 55 that KU beat them (when was the last time we had a larger margin of victory than KU over a common opponent?)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Multiple, interlocking factors ...

1) It’s really, really hard to play at a super high intensity for 40 minutes. Especially when you are killing your opponent. It’s not mercy, it’s just human nature to let up a little.

2) KSU doesn’t have offensive firepower. Not the kind that scores baskets easily. So if the super-intensity isn’t there, the offensive swoon follows.

3) Frank purposefully screws around in games with overmatched opponents to teach the team lessons. That wasn’t a factor in Hawaii, but it is in every game against the non-con cupcakes. It’s why KSU ends up in so many early season fights with no-names.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Right

And for all of the above reasons, I agree with you that we will win by less than 25.

If we win by more, hey great, but I’m not counting on it.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe it was 5 days ago against LBSU

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Dec 30, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

You are correct!

Can’t believe I missed that one, because I actually thought at the time "wow, we beat LBSU by a larger margin than KU did (in Allen Fieldhouse).

/Ifeelsillynow

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank God

Baylor pulled out that win. My bowl pick em was doomed if they wouldn’t have scored that 15th touchdown or whatever it was. That was a great game to watch if you like offense.

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by motown wildcat on Dec 30, 2011 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

x2: yea they were my #2 confidence pick

I had 34pts riding on that….

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by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

The Arkansas Tech teams are called The Wonder Boys and the Golden Suns.

After a close win over an in-state rival in 1920, someone in a news story called the Arkansas Tech team the Wonder Boys and the name stuck. Before that, they had been called the Aggies.

Arkansas Tech played in the NAIA until the late 80’s or early 90’s before becoming Div II NCAA. They have had some very good NAIA and Div II teams. In the 60’s they were consistently in the national NAIA tournament in Kansas City. For those of you who are too young to remember, that was an absolutely great tournament to go to. 8 games a day. If you were a basketball junkie, it was heaven and back then, there were still some VERY good teams in the NAIA. When the NCAA started to expand the Div I tournament field, that made some deep in-roads into the NAIA and everyone started to migrate to either the NCAA Div I or to the NCAA Div II.

I’ve heard nothing so far about how good Arkansas Tech (Russelville, AR) is this year. They are likely pretty good at the Div II level, but shouldn’t have given A&M a scare.

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by ArkieCat on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Arkansas Tech is ranked #17 in the D-II poll

Their only other loss this year was on the road at Central Oklahoma, a loss they avenged a few days later at home.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 31, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Texas A&M is so screwed ...

Anyone checked out their RPI profile yet? If you run down their schedule, they’ve played 4 teams that are RPI 300+. That’s almost impossible to do. And it totally crushes your RPI, irrevocably.

Numbers aside, the chemistry of that team is shot to hell with Turgeon gone and they don’t have a great talent base to fall back on.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

how is Maryland doing?

I haven’t even thought to look them up any of the times I have been on ESPN or any of the RPI sites.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Just looked

8-3 with an RPI of 103 (according to realtimeRPI.com).

So, they are having a stellar season so far! :)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks like a shaky start ...

But he doesn’t have his players yet. Still, at Maryland, a good coach will turn that around fast.

They are 8-3 with losses to Alabama (by 20 on neutral court), Iona (by 26!!! on neutral court), and at home to Illinois (by 9).

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't even look to see the opponents

but a 9 point loss to Illinois isn’t horrible.

The loss to Iona is bad, and the way we took care of Bama, I would say a 20 point loss to them is a bad sign.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

They are going to struggle.

Ouside of the three losses they have played absolutely no one (that means you Colorado). Their RPI is 103 and their SOS is 125. The ACC will eat them up this year.

by AmmoCat on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Thier signature win is @ St. John's. Their RPI? 233.

A&M has played three teams with a sub-200 RPI. THREE!!!!

… and they’ve lost every single one of those games.

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by Panjandrum on Dec 30, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

ouch!

And they were picked to contend for the conference title. Brilliant!

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I had lunch with TB yesterday, and we came to a consensus...

There are four teams with a chance to win this conference: Baylor, Kansas, Missouri, and Kansas State.

KU has the best player, but they have the worst top-to-bottom depth.

Baylor has the best top-end talent, but the have the worst coach of the four in Drew.

Missouri has the best shooting team, but they lack size inside, which will hurt them in an 18 game schedule.

K-State has the best depth and is the best rebounding team in the conference. We’re also getting to the line a lot more than any of those other teams, and amazingly, we’re shooting a respectable percentage.

So, when you’re looking at a pretty brutal 18 game conference schedule, what team do you go with? The one with the best player, worst coach, lacks size, or has the best depth?

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by Panjandrum on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I like depth, myself.

Speaking of undersized. Did you see any of the OU/Cincy game last night? Since the brawl, Cincy has been running a 4 guard lineup and has actually been performing better than they were before the brawl (save for last night). Now that they will be facing better competition, I don’t think this will work for them anymore (as OU showed last night). At one point though last night, I’m pretty sure they had 5 guards on the floor at the same time. It was pretty crazy.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

This is also the most "Frank" team that Frank has had thus far.

They’re harrassing on the perimeter, funneling ball handlers into the lane where they’re being handled fairly well by our bevy of strong inside players, and they’re rebounding really, really well. On offense, they’re getting to the line at a significant clip, they’re hitting their free throws (within reason), and players are settling into their roles. Our top four scorers are within two points of each other, and we’ve settled into a pretty nice ten man rotation most games.

This team doesn’t have the ceiling that the Elite Eight team did, but they are much, much more balanced than that team. The trio of Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz has exceeded all expectations and are the reason we’re already back to contending for the conference title in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year.

I’m really excited for the next couple of months. This could be a fun ride.

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by Panjandrum on Dec 30, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess this must be what it is like for KU...

in that a “rebuilding” year is still a pretty doggone good year.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Frank is really evolving as a coach. I'll definitely give him a lot of credit for tossing out what doesn't work and keeping what does.

I really hope he stays here for a long time. I think in a very odd way, KSU and Frank are a really good fit for each other. Odd in the sense that he’s from South Beach and Manhattan is pretty much the polar opposite of that, but if he were to stay here, I think we could do some really nice things together, and we can get his name thrown on a building.

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by Panjandrum on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe K-18 from I-70 into town

could become Frank Martin Highway. :)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

The other option would be Highway 24

but K-18 would be more visible for people coming to town for games from Wichita.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

24 coming in from the east might get under the skin

Of the Krugers coming over from Silver Lake every time Lon’s in town.

"Nor yet in Dell?"

by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Highway 24 it is then

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by MeatGeek on Dec 30, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree. I think he has an appreciation for what he has been given.

If he hasn’t left for Miami by now, I don’t see him leaving for anything else…Maybe Kentucky?

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by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Miami was probably the only job he would have left for

And I have a feeling that he may have caught wind of what was going on before the story really broke. But I don’t see Frank leaving until he retires.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

If one of the major Big East schools comes calling,

say when Calhoun or Boeheim hangs it up, that might be tough to turn down, but otherwise I agree.

He is a very loyal guy and seems to deeply appreciate the opportunity he’s been given.

by yeahboozin on Dec 30, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, that is the type of school I'd be worried about ...

Not quite as much UConn, as the public seems dead-set on Kevin Ollie as a HCIW. But Syracuse … yeah, if Frank continues to have serious, uninterrupted success then that is one of those schools.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Doubtful

If HCFM continues winning at K-State, I doubt he has interest anywhere else.

Outside of 1992-2007 K-State has had excellent basketball and numerous runs in the tournament. So the other ‘blue-blood’ schools you are listing are not that different than K-State.

Other places have good and bad, the same as what you have at K-State. At K-State the expectations are reasonable and the fans like HCFM. Plus the current coaching staff looks like they are getting the recruiting set up to attract the type of player that thrives in the HCFM system.

If HCFM does decide to go elsewhere, I think Brad Underwood can step up and become head coach. But I am doubtful that he goes elsewhere when he (and the family) like the community.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you

and I am perfectly ok with Brad being the next head coach should Frank decide to leave. Brad is a KSU alum, and once things get going, I think he would be able to continue fairly well. I think we have seen that from an X and O standpoint, Brad is capable.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Frank sounded downright giddy talking about this squad as the season approached.

A lot us figured he was maybe trying to motivate a bunch that might struggle this year. But we’re seeing why exactly he was so excited – these guys get after it on defense, on the glass, and seem truly dedicated to playing the right way.

Agreed that this team isn’t perfectly equipped to take down the top top teams like the Elite Eight team was, but this squad can win a whole lot of games.

by yeahboozin on Dec 30, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

When the Elite 8 team was firing on all cylinders, they were unstoppable.

The problem was that Clemente was so up and down that they rarely ever got there.

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by Panjandrum on Dec 30, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup.

As I liked to say, Denis was capable of “one man missioning”. He could single handedly win a game, but he could also have bad stretches that were pretty tough to overcome. I LOVED Denis. One of my favorites. But yeah, occasionally frustrating to watch.

by yeahboozin on Dec 30, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

There's only one thing that makes me nervous about K-State

we have a relatively young team that is playing confident right now and if ku figures out how to get it together and blasts us then our confidence take a big hit.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd like another shot at WVU.

Or rather, I wish we could have prevented that 3 pointer from going in.

Would be rather amusing to hear the talking heads spin that scenario…three of the 5 (if we were undefeated) remaining undefeated teams being from the “down” Big 12.

That will change soon enough though. Mizzou and Baylor tangle with each other on Monday, so one of them is gonna get a mark in the L column.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, imo that's pretty much it ...

I’d only add that Missourah has guards that really defend and like to turn you over for easy transition points, too. Just have no idea whatsoever what they are going to look like going against a team with the ability and will to smash them up inside.

Also, Baylor is just about their usual soft self, in addition to being their usual uncoached self. Though their new PG brings a little bit of moxie that might just push them to a little higher level than they might have been.

I really think I probably favor MU over the long haul of the conference season. I just think there are too many opponents that have no chance of matching up with them. Too many easy wins. I think they can pretty much hold serve with ku, KSU, and Baylor at home and even if they lose each of those road games, they’ll come out on top.

If, with a magic wand, you could make Angel Rodriguez’s good level of play a given over the course of the schedule, I might actually favor KSU. I just think there will be a few too many road game offensive swoons to end up champions.

I think all four teams will be in the race until the last couple of weeks of the season. What a great conference year this is going to be.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Gee, and consider this:

Baylor, K-State, KU and Missouri have all had an Elite Eight appearance in the last three seasons.

Coincidence? I think not.

by BracketCat on Jan 1, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

That 9-6 game of the century was really exciting (massive amounts of sarcasm)

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

lol!

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of scoring,

but I also like to see at least a little defense mixed in.

Really, I don’t think UW should have been able to keep it close last night. As much as we all make fun of the PAC for being pretty unremarkable this year…they were 6-6. I was glad to see Baylor win last night, but really, they probably should have blown UW out of the water. Sure, we held Baylor to 35 points, but were only able to score 36 on their non-existent defense.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I think at some point baylor realized that they didn't have to play defense to win

I think they probably found this out after the OU game. Plus a 35-49 game, now what kind of game would that be.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be one that actually somewhat resembles real football. :)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

that's as bad as the bama fans saying they lost a field goal kicking contest.

Both teams played within the rules resulting in a Baylor win, you might not like their style but they did play real football and they won.

Now if you want football that only involves running, the option and defense I suggest you make your way over to NDnation …

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

are you talking about other than their bowl game?

OU @ Baylor was a ruckus other than the TCU and Alamo Bowl. I would tend to agree.

But yea KSU probably powns the rest of them. Take your pick between @Miami, BU, aTm

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by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Quick question about next year's football schedule

Has anyone heard anything about the home games for next season, I’m assuming we’ll probably get Miami and KU (I can’t see the Big 12 screwing us out of that game 3 years in a row) but past that I really don’t know.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not even sure if Miami was scheduled for the return trip next year.

We’ve already been told that TCU and WVU will not just slip into aTm and Mizzou’s schedules, and that the entire schedule will have to be redone, so it is entirely possible that we could end up playing in Lawrence for a 3rd consecutive year. To be honest, I would much rather play there again than Stillwater, or Lubbock.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I gotta think we'll push for the return game with Miami

They are going to be very depleted next year and I think we could probably win that game

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

from K-State sports and fbschedules.com

K-Statesports.com 2012 and 2013 football schedules.
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9/1/12 ????
9/8/12 Miami
9/15/12 N Texas

Week 1 – at Baylor
Week 2 – at Missouri (this probably will not happen
Week 3 – Texas Tech
Week 4 – Kansas
Week 5 – at Oklahoma
Week 6 – Oklahoma State
Week 7 – at Texas A&M (doubt this one takes place either.)
Week 8 – Texas
Week 9 – at Iowa State

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen both, but I have my doubts about both

The Big 12 said they are going to have to rework all of the schedules so it is possible that some games will be played in the same place 2 or 3 years in a row.

by EMAW 4 Ever on Dec 30, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure we bought out of it

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
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by MeatGeek on Dec 31, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanksgiving Weekend

Would like to see us play our final game of the season on Thanksgiving weekend. I don’ t know if this is possible or not.

by iCatDormRat on Dec 30, 2011 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

It is possible, but not sure how likely

Snyder typically does not like playing a game on Thanksgiving weekend. The reason being (and this is based on the assumption we will be bowling again on a regular basis) that when we go bowling, the kids don’t get a good chance to be with their families for Christmas because of either practice, or being at the bowl game.

Having the week off at Thanksgiving allows the players a chance to go home and be with their family.

Another reason the ISU game was played on 12/3 this years was to keep the Big 12 active during everyone else’s championship game weekend. When your last game is before Thanksgiving, there is a 2 weekend gap between the game and bowl selection Sunday, and that usually leads to the selection committee knocking you down a couple pegs (unless you are undefeated).

If we go back to having a championship game, then we will probably eliminate the bye week in our schedule (this is actually what we did for a good portion of HCBS first tenure) so that Thanksgiving weekend can be used to prepare for the championship game that would be the week following Thanksgiving.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 30, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually like the Dec. 3rd (next year that makes it the 4th?) weekend over t-giving weekend

gives us time to rest up, not be so rusty if we get a late bowl like this year, and lets me focus totally on family during the weekend, b/c I’m that into CFB and my ’Cats.

"Nor yet in Dell?"

by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

There are some rumblings out there that TCU-Texas will be the T-giving night game

or day after T-giving. For now I don’t see that being a problem drawing some nat’l attention.

"Nor yet in Dell?"

by GTcat on Dec 30, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This would be an interesting match up for the conference

It would be fun to have a chance to watch the Cats Thanksgiving weekend.

by iCatDormRat on Dec 30, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Does anyone know if the name for the basketball practice building has been determined?

If not I would suggest naming it after Tex Winter … that would be cool to have an outdoor statue of him with a list of what all he achieved as a coach.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

Mizzou down by 2 at ODU with less than 3 minutes to play.

I hope we scout this game hard to see a good strategy to beat Mizzou.

by AMS on Dec 30, 2011 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

I believe the strategy is ...

beat the shit out of them on the boards.

But seriously … this game is definitely affecting my outlook on MU. The conference road is going to be tougher than this, tiggers.

On a side note … man, Ratliff can finish plays. Just about the best hands you’ll see on a big man.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 30, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Ratliff is a lot better than I realized, but we have a lot better post players than ODU.

Mizzou will be far from easy for anyone to get a win against, but when has anything been easy for Frank’s teams?

by AMS on Dec 30, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

For those of you going to the Cotton Bowl next week

Does anyone know what time the pep rally actually starts?

I know that the gates open at 4 but I haven’t seen an actual start time for all that’s going to take place. If anyone has any info on that that would be much appreciated.

by tonyg8803 on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 PM CST reply actions  

So tempted to watch OU v IA .... so very tempted.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 PM CST reply actions  

WVU losing to Seaton Hall ... not good.

I have no idea how the Architects got good at basketball.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

HAHA

I never really thought of that. Weird.

by GCat on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Different spelling but close enough.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

5:28 left in the game WVU 48 Seton Hall 58

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Seton Hall is a solid team, especially at home.

I actually pretty much expect them to beat UConn at home next.

WV is gonna lose their share of games, but their RPI will be fine. Not good, but no biggie.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 31, 2011 6:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Skycam attacks

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 31, 2011 12:29 AM CST reply actions  

They are not going to end the skycams over this.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 31, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Probably not. Not until a player is actually injured by one of the things.

Imagine if it had crashed down on, say, Landry Jones’ head and concussed him.

by AMS on Dec 31, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone catch one of the bands playing a snippet from the Sportscenter theme?

Must have been the Iowa band, because it sounds nothing like Boomer Sooner.

by AMS on Dec 31, 2011 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

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