RPI WATCH: 12/26/11
by BracketCat on Dec 26, 2011 6:00 PM CST
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PrintThe final order of finish in the 2011 Diamond Head Classic:
- Kansas St. Wildcats
- Long Beach St. 49ers
- UTEP Miners
- Auburn Tigers
- Hawaii Warriors
- Clemson Tigers
- Xavier Musketeers
- Southern Illinois Salukis
Though the field was far from a giant-killer like your typical Maui Invitational, I think we still can take some things away from this rewarding experience. K-State had to beat the second- and third-place teams to win this one.
The Beach's resume is pretty well discussed at this point, but I would like to spare a few words about UTEP. The Miners had pretty bad numbers coming in, but my eyes tell me they are a young team that is improving rapidly.
Apparently, Tim Floyd had several players unavailable earlier in the year when UTEP suffered its most ignominious losses, but once they got back, the Miners looked pretty good. They gave us our closest game in Hawaii, after all.
The win over Auburn (and their former coach) hopefully should springboard the Miners to greater things in Conference USA play. Ideally, they would challenge Memphis for league supremacy. We could use the resume help.
Associated Press Ranking = 26
ESPN/USA Today Ranking = 25
Overall Record = 10-1
Big 12 Record = 0-0
Top 50 Record = 2-1
RPI = 24
SOS = 79
Signature Wins (RPI 1-30) = Alabama, Long Beach State
Quality Wins (RPI 31-100) = Charleston Southern, Virginia Tech
Bad Losses (RPI 101 or greater) = none
- Charleston Southern (7-4, 2-0 Big South) | RPI = 96
- Loyola Chicago (5-7, 0-2 Horizon) | RPI = 194
- UMES (3-9, 0-1 MEAC) | RPI = 300
- George Washington (4-7) | RPI = 158
- Virginia Tech (10-3) | RPI = 56
- West Virginia (9-3) | RPI = 35
- North Florida (6-7, 1-0 A-Sun) | RPI = 137
- Alabama (9-3) | RPI = 19
- Southern Illinois (3-8) | RPI = 319: Loss to No. 14 Xavier (77-87) in the Diamond Head Classic
- Clemson (7-6) | RPI = 226: Loss at Hawaii (68-75) in the Diamond Head Classic
- UTEP (6-6) | RPI = 164: Win over Auburn (83-76) in the Diamond Head Classic
- Auburn (8-3) | RPI = 185: Loss to UTEP (76-83) in the Diamond Head Classic
- Hawaii (7-5) | RPI = 261: Win over Clemson (75-68) in the Diamond Head Classic
- Long Beach State (7-6) | RPI = 12: Loss to Kansas State (60-77) in the Diamond Head Classic
- No. 14 Xavier (9-3) | RPI = 64: Win over Southern Illinois (87-77) in the Diamond Head Classic
- Howard (4-9, 2-0 MEAC) | RPI = 279
- No. 12 Kansas (8-3) | RPI = 30
- No. 9 Missouri (12-0) | RPI = 51
- No. 6 Baylor (12-0) | RPI = 10
- Oklahoma (9-1) | RPI = 36
- Texas (9-3) | RPI = 73
- Oklahoma State (6-5) | RPI = 109
- Texas Tech (5-5) | RPI = 215
- Iowa State (9-3) | RPI = 67
- Texas A&M (8-3) | RPI = 235
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Regardless of what happens, I'm enjoying the way the team is playing right now.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
bringonthecats.com, K-State's SBnation blog where I hang out during games.
by Anon_the_younger on Dec 26, 2011 6:30 PM CST reply actions
agreed
aka - Hell Dancing
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 26, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
I third that
K-S-U ! we'll carry thy banner high
K-S-U ! long long may thy colors fly
by motown wildcat on Dec 26, 2011 9:17 PM CST via Android app reply actions
If we think our RPI is good now
Just wait until we play two of the best schools in the big 12 and that school from down the river
I really hope those are good games.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
bringonthecats.com, K-State's SBnation blog where I hang out during games.
by Anon_the_younger on Dec 26, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
me too
I think Howard is a given (it definitely should be anyway).
Baylor will be a tough game. I think we will be Mizzou’s stiffest challenge to date. And KU has definitely shown to be beatable this season (and LBSU showed us that they can be rattled in the Phog too). OU is a team that is kind of flying under the radar as well, and they won’t be an easy win, by any means (we play in Norman first).
If we can open conference play 3-1, I will be ecstatic. 2-2 would be a pretty good showing as well.
aka - Hell Dancing
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 26, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Unrelated: Sproles just caught the record-breaking pass from Brees.
With 2 minutes, 51 seconds left in the Saints’ game against the Falcons, Darren Sproles caught a 9-yard touchdown pass that gave Drew Brees the single-season passing yardage record.
And it was part of a night with 236 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns for Sproles. Earlier in the broadcast, Jaws called Sproles the biggest free agent acquisition of the season.
Sean Payton deserves mad props
for recognizing the weapon he has in Darren Sproles and not being afraid to use him (like Norv Turner apparently was).
aka - Hell Dancing
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 26, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Because he'll never win a Super Bowl
But Norv Turner won’t either!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
I understood the firing of Marty when it happened.
But the Turner hire was always perplexing. This guy flamed out as a head coach TWICE. Always had horrible teams. Then he has one good year as an O-coordinator and suddenly he is head coach material again?
I thought for sure after Oakland he was done as an NFL head coach.
The only reason he has been winning is from the left-over talent from the Marty era there. As that is slowly lost due to Turner incompetence (and, honestly, this is all mostly GM AJ Smith’s fault, with whom I have disagreed on pretty much every personnel move he has ever made).
My sig needs updated.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 27, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Sproles
Congratulations to Darren on a great season and a great game last night. Last season when he was at San Diego I was afraid his career was over since he was hurt a lot of the time and was struggling along with the team.
I just looked up his stats page on ESPN.
About one-third of his career rushing and receiving yards, as well as rushing and receiving first downs, have come this year. He still isn’t rushing the ball a lot, with 81 carries in 15 games, but he makes things happen when he does carry it. 7 yards per carry, phenomenal. He doesn’t have enough carries to qualify as leading the category, but of the top 40 players in rushing yardage, only Michael Vick has a better YPC average.
As you said, when Sproles gets the ball in his hands, he just knows what to do with it.
Somebody on 810 a couple of weeks ago (national football guy, don’t remember who it was) was talking about Sproles and mentioned how many teams are now starting to use guys like him. The guy then went on to say that the Chiefs have their Darren Sproles in Dexter McCluster.
I’m a huge Chiefs fan. Huge. I have a Dexter McCluster jersey. I go to nearly every home game. I nearly lost my mind Saturday when we lost that game to the Raiders.
I say all this because I want to impress the point that I know the Chiefs and I love the Chiefs, but to compare Darren Sproles to Dexter McCluster is absolutely, positively asinine. Worse than that, it’s lazy. It’s the reason that I tune out the majority of the time when National writers/radio/TV guys start talking about my teams…. I know more about them than the “experts” do.
Darren Sproles is one-of-a-kind. He does things no other player in the NFL can do. We all know how effective his combination of shiftiness, vision, deceptive strength and pure will-power can be.
Sorry for my mini-rant, but I take offense when every small-ish player in the NFL that is shifty is compared to Darren solely based on size.
He deserves more than that.
Kind of excited that big12 play gets here sooner than usual this year
Probably a good time to catch KU…seems like Bill Self, like clock work has them running like a top by late January. Given their recent struggles, I feel like we have a shot at them at their place on Jan 4th…though I know their crowd, and Bill will have their team focussed and ready to go. Not sure our young team will be able to match the focus when they’re ( guys like Angel and Big gip)subjected to the intense atmosphere for the first time.
Oh well, we will see. Just hope that it’s a good close game, and not the usual embarrassment at Allen. Harness the Wooly + Cartier
"Nor yet in Dell?"
^^^^^^^This
Harness the Wooly + Cartier
+ Skyler Thomas. Hit some HUGE threes in that game.
As much as we all bag on Wooly
He did actually do quite a bit to improve the team. I still think he was only a year or two from taking us to the NCAA tourney.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
I love Wolly.
Not upset that we fired him. We needed to take the next step and at that point is seemed pretty obvious he wasn’t going to get us there.
But I don’t view his time at KSU as a failure for either party.
My sig needs updated.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 27, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
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