UTEP v K-State 70-78 (W) post game
by Anon_the_younger on Dec 24, 2011 10:27 AM CST
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Other games in the tournament:
Clemson 83 SIU 75 in OT
Long Beach St. 64 Auburn 43
Xavier 82 Hawai'i 84 OT
K-State had a large lead at half time and UTEP answered with a 27-10 run to take the lead in the 2nd before K-State recovered to win the game by 8 points.
I'm not sure what to take away from this game as Tim Floyd is a good coach and throws things at other teams that are not seen that often. When is the last time you saw a triangle and 2 defense? Even saw a little bit of the triangle offense run by UTEP.
What does K-State need to do differently? I'm not sure at this point, even though I disliked the scoring drought early in the second. Probably the biggest thing to do differently is to recognize when the referees change up what they are calling for fouls. K-State plays aggressive D, as much as the refs allow then the refs call things a little tighter then the adjustment does not happen immediately for K-State and results in some points for the other team. Midway through the second K-State had twice the fouls of UTEP.
Only 3 players in double figures: Will, Jamar and Angel; no surprises in that list. 11 players saw the court for K-State and the only individual in foul trouble was Thomas Gipson, which isn't good but with Jamar, JO and Adrian available not a big concern.
Grades for the game depend on which part of the game you are watching. Everyone played great in the first half and would be a B+ or A, while the first 10 minutes of the second half would see the grades move down to D/C/B- level. At the end of the game it was more in the C+/B/A- area.
Championship Game: 8:30 p.m. CST on ESPN 2 Long Beach State vs K-State. LBS is athletic and this should be an interesting game.
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http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-12-23/angel-shows-time-save-cats – I’m a bit slower than my fellow BOTCers I guess, I didn’t see much from Angel early in the season, but I’m a believer.
http://www.kansas.com/2011/12/23/2151211/k-state-leads-utep-by-13-at-halftime.html – What a game. I’m so glad I didn’t see the first half of the 2nd half. I was finally able to watch when the Cats started their run.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=teamreports-2011-ncaab-kab – I’m not a fan of some of the comments from the writer, but it’s a good write-up about the Cats
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They were whining and complaining about how bias’d the refs were towards them in their open game thread. It was kinda amusing to me.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
They were pretty even in the first. Then K-State did not adjust to the ref's in the first part of the 2nd resulting in 10-5 foul ratio.
When K-State surged ahead UTEP had to force things which typically leads to calls.
I understand their point of view but not sure it is entirely accurate, then again we are used to bad officiating.
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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 24, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
As I mentioned yesterday
I am seeing BAD officiating in all games I am watching this season…not BIASED officiating, but BAD. Things that are fouls on one trip down the court are not being called on the next trip, and so on. I’m getting really tired of it.
aka - Hell Dancing
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 24, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I'm worried about LBSU ...
If we throw anything like the defensive performance we did for a super-long stretch of the second half against UTEP, LBSU will get us good.
And we have got to finish plays around the rim better than we did against UTEP. Again, the second half was absolutely brutal until Angel woke the team back up.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 24, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions
"....super-long stretch..." of crappy defensive play
was exceeded only by the shitty level of coaching during that period by the KSU staff.
If HCFM doesn’t know how to get his team to stop giving up back door cuts, as tough and promising as this team is, it will still be a disapointing year.
I, for one, am tired of seeing the back door cuts. It is a by product of this defensive scheme. It is not a lack of effort by the players. Over guarding the off ball, weak side, passing lane, from the free throw line extended, and on out to 50 feet from the basket, is a defensive scheme that defies the imagination, let alone logic. It is an act of egotisical, look-at-me and how tough I am, lunacy.
oh hail the Purple and White
Defensive Play
KSU needs to improve when the other team is throwing the ball in under there basket. Twice WVU got easy buckets in the paint and in a number of other games we have been beaten badly. In all cases we are playing man to man and they set a block on one or more of our guys to free up one of there “bigs” for an easy basket.
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