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K-State Slate: 12.15.11

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K-State Football

Arthur Brown had a breakthrough season for K-State this year, but he had to do it alone after his brother, Bryce, left the team three games into the season. It's sad to read Arthur's comment where he said he's not really sure what Bryce is doing right now.

With K-State sports on break for finals, the rest of the Slate will be devoted to entertaining happenings from elsewhere in college sports...

College Football

Todd Graham left Pitt for Arizona State after less than one year at Pitt. He told his players he was leaving via a text message sent to the director of football operations, to be forwarded on to his players. One of his players went on an impressive Twitter rant about Graham's departure.

Mike Leach, do you think Craig James can win his campaign for a Senate seat? "Uh, does anybody?" Love you, Mike.

KU Athletes are Kind of Bad at Remembering to Show Up for Court

KU basketball player Ben McLemore was arrested after he failed to show up for a court appearance in his minor in possession case. Seriously, as good as the kids are with the technology these days, you'd think he could set up a calendar reminder or something. At least he didn't take a default judgment like Sherron Collins.

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Graham is going to have a problem with recruits going forward. He looks like a giant tool that is chasing money. Its going to be super hard now to convince a recruit that Graham will be at ASU for the long run.

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

And I feel really bad for Arthur

He’s a really nice kid (I met him once when he was working on a project in the University Archives) and I’m sure he wishes Bryce was there, having a break-out season with him. I think Snyder would take Bryce back, but he would have to come as a walk-on, and will have to prove he is willing to become a part of this team by showing up to EVERYTHING.

And speaking of standout years, while Arthur had a great year for this team, I really don’t feel like he is ready to go to the NFL. Not only does he not seem like that kind of person (to jump at money and fame), there is still a lot to accomplish here.

I am super excited for next year, with all of the returning talent on both sides of the ball, and knowing that there are a bunch of quality guys waiting in the wings ready to get playing. Go Cats!

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope AB gets back to 100% for the Cotton Bowl ...

To me, he was noticeably slowed by that knee for more than half the season. He was still a great player, but he was an animal before that.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Well he looked a lot better with even that one week off

before the ISU game. I imagine given a whole week of rest (after Christmas) but the bowl practices that Snyder has (its mostly just fundamentals and younger players tend to get more reps), I bet he is ready to go at 98-99% come January 6th.

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

*

PLUS the bowl practices, not but…

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

He didn’t do too badly against UT, but he didn’t look right from the end of the TT game until ISU. Against ISU he was back to being the league defensive player of the year he was early in the season.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

A calender reminder TB?

I’ma too gansta to be straight zippin’ like that….

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

just because you can send and receive text messages

and post to twitter (all with TERRIBLE English) does not mean you are “good with technology.” Its just like those kids who own Mac’s and iPod’s and think they are so tech savvy and hip…

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Heeeey

I resemble that remark.

/thehippart

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Lol

crazy old hipsters…
/just teasing :-)

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you suppose Leach's dartboard has a picture of Craig James on it?

Or maybe his toilet does.

Nah, I think Leach is more of a man than that. He’ll just ignore James.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

This is quite literally one of my favorite comments ever.

I feel like it is not getting the attention it deserves.

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 15, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, he's free now

Koening to not return as DC at Illinois.

Please, let there not be any bad blood there so Snyder can #FireChrisCosh and #HireVicKoening

/yeah I went all Twitter there

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

I think if Koening's wife

would just admit she doesn’t care where he coaches because she isn’t moving out of Chicago, there would be a chance. Plus with the new Chicago flights he could go up and back anytime.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Well he could have done that before

its just a sh*t ton cheaper now, and on a regular schedule

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't direct.

I’m just saying it much more convenient to do now. It would be even easier if the Koening would just admit the marriage is over. They haven’t lived in the same place for years.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Scary internet stalking

or a guy who knows a guy?

Although I can’t disagree with any of your points, but it is unlikely that our Christmas wish will be answered.

#Cosh4AnywhereButHere

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 15, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to love Mizzou's Brady Deaton

not that I am without sympathy towards his position following David Boren’s egregiously ridiculous statements on September 2nd, but this constant bypassing of Mizzou’s central role in the Big-12 realignment-palooza of the past two years is just laughable.

by CT-K-Stater on Dec 15, 2011 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed...

I can’t believe I once seriously considered attending that institution

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Poor Turner Gill

He found a new job, but it’s at Liberty, a Christian FCS school in Virginia. I love this quote from president and chancellor Jerry Falwell, Jr. (yep, son of that Jerry Falwell): “I think Liberty University and Turner Gill were made for each other.”

Yeah. Have fun with that.

by Ahearn Alley on Dec 15, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

Well there wont be any agnst

about his preaching in the locker room there…

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we can all agree that the opposite of progess is congress.

/sorryhadtogetthatlamejokein

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 15, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

My God can beat up your God.

Can I get a no religion warning?

Maybe a no Tebow warning?

Hello…McFly….anybody here?

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 15, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I was at trivia last night and my favorite team name was:

Is it wrong to “Tebow” after sex? Only if you did it missionary.

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

damn...

change wrong to acceptable….

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

My Karma can run over your Dogma.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Either way it's funny...

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I know, but it's low hanging fruit, and as you can see, I'm hardly the only one to think so

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The first rule of BOTC is don't make the Manager ANGRY.

The 2nd rule is of course to have indifference towards KU since the opposite of love is indifference.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.

by Anon_the_younger on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

You want to keep TB, happy, sure, but you must take every opportunity to get under the Editors' skin.

Whether it be by suggesting to bring in Air Force to the Big 12 (a brilliant move by the way) or trolling Bracket’s BlogPoll.

I think that is rule #3 or 4, depending on if you agree with mac attack ict below.

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 16, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Just don't mention anyone's addiction to the Twilight series ... I heard that might get you banned.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.

by Anon_the_younger on Dec 16, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...I resemble that remark.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Dec 16, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh

If the B12 wanted to pay the money, we could do it too.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope Hawaii joins the league

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

They'd better hurry

I hear Larry Scott is trying to open up the Asia markets…

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Our sign would say...

“All your members are belong to us”
-Big XII

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Dec 16, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2011/dec/14/lawrence-commissioners-considering-re-naming-stree/?sports

He may have a 4 block long street but our coach has a 20 mile (aproximatley) highway named after him.

by EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) on Dec 15, 2011 1:08 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

how sweet

and agreed, a highway is much cooler though I doubt people around here are done naming things for The Great One: HCBS

by jtarkman on Dec 15, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention the STADIUM.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Dec 16, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget to vote!

www.coachoftheyear.com

Snyder up by about 17,000 but we want to make sure.

Bitchslapping Texas since 1997

by mjk7166 on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Just because he is up by 17,000

doesn’t mean that we won’t observe a miraculous 10,000 vote surge for Brady Hoke. I still want to know how he was nowhere close to Snyder or Gundy in the prelims and now he is in 2nd place. Since Craig James said on the Bowl Selection show that he thinks Hoke deserves Coach of the Year, I am extremely interested to see what the numbers do in the final days of voting.

Crap…Furnace, you’re starting to rub off on me. :)

First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)

by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Because he made a BCS bowl

And UofM has started sending out the remember to vote emails.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Bastards.

Can we hire Mangino for a nominal fee to eat Hoke?

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 16, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Give him a stick of butter and set him loose.

He’s already getting a fine salary from the good folks at KU.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.

by BlackCats on Dec 16, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be the WORST thing to do!

Can you imagine how many sympathy votes Hoke would get if he were eaten by Mangino?!

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 16, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Some Baylor fans poking fun at Weis's hire

http://www.ourdailybears.com/2011/12/15/2638626/lawyers-everywhere-to-build-a-shrine-to-charlie-weis-agent-as-goat – I haven’t paid any attention to Weis’ contract. Oh my. That’s A LOT of money. How is KU managing to pay for all these football related expenses? Scalping bball tickets?

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

they have extra money now that the people in the ticket office aren't skimming tickets and funds from the athletic department.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.

by Anon_the_younger on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

This might of already been said.

I have someone in my family that is a KU student athlete (sorry, could not convince her to go to K-State like me), and she told me that Jordan Webb has been cut from the team. I don’t know if this is 100% accurate, but thought it was interesting (and funny) if true.

by Disco Time on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I've heard those mumblings as well.

That will get them a QB for a year…

Does he have to sit out this season for transfer rules, or has he already graduated?

First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)

by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Here was something I found from ESPN.

“Crist is scheduled to graduate later this month and will have one year of eligibility remaining since he did not play his first year at Notre Dame. He can transfer to another school and play immediately so long as he enrolls in a graduate program that Notre Dame does not offer, per NCAA rules.”

by Disco Time on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

So, I wonder what KU offers that ND doesn't.

I’m too lazy/uninterested to look for myself.

And are people assuming that because Weis was at ND and Crist was at ND that this is a done deal? Was Crist originally recruited by Weis? I haven’t paid attention to ND football closely enough (read “at all”) to know dates and whatnot.

First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)

by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

The question that Jeremy is asking...

Is not: “Why would Crist chose KU over Notre Dame?”

But rather: “What graduate program does KU offer that Notre Dame does not, thus allowing Crist to transfer and play immediately?”

To answer that question, upon a preliminary scan, I noticed that Notre Dame only offers post-graduate programs in Spanish, French and Italian, while KU does have an offering in German.

So he could study German!

If you want to look it up yourself:
Notre Dame Graduate Programs

KU Graduate Programs

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, Chris. Thanks for clarifying my question. :)

First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)

by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

the same could be said about every other school in the big 12

Except k-state, baylor and OU (if jones/RG3 return), and maybe iowa state

by EMAW 4 Ever (iphone) on Dec 15, 2011 6:36 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

KU offers a starting job for him.

He was most likely not going to play at ND, so I guess this would give him a shot. He is also visiting Wisconsin, Delaware, and maybe Pitt. Weis did recruit him back in 2008, so I think that is where the pull is coming from. It really looks like Crist just wants to go somewhere to start immediately.

by Disco Time on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, Snyder didn't win the Eddie Robinson COTY award.

Gundy did.

Story here.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

I'm a man! I lost to Iowa State, hurting what would have been the best season of Cowboy football ever!

Booo. At least Miles or Hoke didn’t win it.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see the logic being something like this:

Bill Snyder is by far better than every other non-Big 12 candidate (Miles, Hoke, Sweeney).

Bill Snyder had two losses, to OU and OSU.

Mike Gundy had one loss, and beat Snyder head-to-head.

Not saying I buy that argument, because of the discrepancies in talent, but I can see some semblance of logic behind it.

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Dec 15, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Not meaning to disrespect anyone on our team, because I wouldn't trade any of them for anyone...

but I think if we had Weeden and Blackmon this year, we very likely could have finished undefeated and would be playing LSU in the title game, so yeah, I think talent has a lot to do with Gundy’s success.

I guess Snyder doesn’t get down and boogie in the locker room after big wins though, so maybe that was the reasoning behind giving him the award.

First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)

by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Auto Ban for Honey Badger defamation.

Having a logical statement offers no defense.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 15, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Really isn't a defamation if you think about it

I’m assuming we definitely would have won the OSU game just by the fact that Weeden and Blackmon would have been on our team instead of the opposing team, thereby all of the yards and points they gained would automatically swing over to us.

I don’t have the same kind of justification for the OU second half beatdown though.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The point is...

I would not trade HBCK for any quarterback, not even for Weeden or RGIII

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 15, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd trade him for a Heisman winner.

The fact is, Klein excels in our system. He’s tough as nails, but he’s not the most talented QB out there. With our O-Line, he needs to be mobile and be able to take hits. He’s excellent with the talent we have.

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think we'd be any better

Until we get a good pass defense offensive line, it doesn’t matter who is throwing to who.

Oh, and I’m pretty sure Synder would break a hip…

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 15, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Gundy winning it doesn’t bother me nearly as much as Hoke winning it, or even Miles.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That gets an auto rec'd

Help Meet out here, everybody. This needs to go green.

by CT-K-Stater on Dec 15, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

True story...

…my uncle is from Dallas, and he used to sell programs at the Cotton Bowl. He may very well have been a kid selling that program.

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Dec 15, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Bear Bryant seriously a ffing bird?

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Because that is Glorious...truly Glorious.

No wait, he’s a wave crest…and whoever that Texas ass is plugging up a wall to keep the Tide out? Very crafty Cotton Bowl, very crafty.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 15, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

They aren't a biased group at all are they? lol

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by Jeremy Sharp on Dec 15, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The guy plugging the wall

is Darrel Royal, longtime coach of Longhorn.

oh hail the Purple and White

by Furnace76 on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I give...

Not one single fuck.

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 16, 2011 2:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Some love for Malone and Coach Snyder

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/15/2638538/college-football-all-america-team-2011 – very good to see!

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

BOYCOTT ESPN!

by Sean T on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

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