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K-State v. North Florida - 79-68, OT (W) - Post-Game

I'll put marginally more effort into this post-game than K-State did into their OT win against the North Florida Ospreys.

North Florida came into this game at 5-4, with no one on their team larger than 6-7, 235 (Adrian Diaz's older brother, Andy), a couple of decent shooters, and a hope and a prayer. We spend the first 40 minutes giving them hope, and making sure their prayers were answered.

Star-divide

This could be characterized as our worst 40 minute performance of the year, especially on defense. If North Florida had been able to actually put the ball in the basket in the first half, we coulda been run out of our own gym.

Of note, Shane Southwell sat out with the flu. It appeared everyone on the team was affected by this flu bug as well; the team had zero energy the entire game. HCFM went way deep into the bench in the first half, with everyone but the walk-ons getting minutes. North Florida kept the game close, started the second half on a 15-6 run, and eventually took the lead by 9 with about 8:30 to play. K-State made some gutsy plays - including a three by Will Spradling to take the lead by 2 with less than 30 seconds to go - to ensure we had a chance to still pull it out. During the OT session, the Wildcats finally decided to play basketball on both ends of the floor, as well as go 8-8 from FT to finish with the 11 point victory.

Good things to take away:

  • A win is a win. This is the second time I've said these words this season. Not a good trend.
  • Thomas Gipson's effort. Kid had a man-sized game today, and honestly, was the reason we won.
  • Rebounding. Finished with a 41-29 advantage on the boards, and no one on the North Florida squad had more than 5. A little mixed bag, though, as the Ospreys did pull down 12 offensive rebounds.
  • 70% FT shooting. I know it's almost blasphemous to have four things to take away from a game that we were so bad in, but had to be mentioned. To be very honest, FT shooting during OT (8-8) is why we won.

Things to improve on:

  • Everything else. Our defense was mediocre at best at times, our shooting was poor (<40% FG, <15% 3PFG), and our effort was just lackluster the entire game. HCFM said it best: "We had no business winning that game today." Couldn't agree more. Our heads weren't in it, our legs weren't in it. I made the comment that "It looked like we just don't care."
  • Attendance. The team has no control over this aspect, but damn it, the OOD was less than half full. That's an embarrassment, and SOMEONE needs to call out the community on it. Pathetic showing by the Purple Nation.

Player Analysis: Starters:

  • Rodney McGruder: C+. Rod finished with 10 PTS, 5 REB, 1 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 1 TO, which seems OK. Until you realize he went 4-17 from the floor, and two of his REB and four points were on his own misses. Played decent D, but just had such an underwhelming shooting performance, I can't give him more credit. Did play 41 of 45 minutes, so HCFM had faith in him, at least from a stability standpoint.
  • Will Spradling: B+. Played his usual good D, taking at least one charge. Finished with 12 PTS, 5 REB, 9 AST, 2 STL, 3 BLK (!), and only 1 TO in 41 minutes. Honestly, he was a scoring non-factor until about 4:30 left in the game, hit the big 3 to take the lead with under a minute, and made FTs in the OT session. Some complaints about his offensive aggression (or lack thereof), but he did put up 12 FGA. He made only 3. If he had played more consistently throughout the game, probably would have received an A, but just did not shoot the ball well enough to deserve an exemplary grade.
  • Martavious Irving: D. Hand-check happy Tay was back, committing 4 fouls in 22 minutes. Looked a step slow on D, constantly getting blown by. 0-3 from 3PFG, and a 1:2 AST/TO ratio. Not Tay's best effort.
  • Jamar Samuels: C-. Stuffed statsheet (12 PTS, 5 REB, 2 AST, 3 STL, 3 BLK, 4 TO) in 27 minutes. Complete no-show at times. Jamar's 5 REB effort is pretty freakin' pathetic, given he was bigger and more athletic than anyone the Ospreys could suit up. Did shoot FTs relatively well, 6-8 from the line. No excuse for JamSam to only have 5 FGA.
  • Thomas Gipson: A-. Made some defensive mistakes, and incorrect (note: not BAD) offensive reads, but he allowed us to win this game. Finished with a career high 23 PTS, 12 REB in 37 minutes. Only 3-9 from FT. Honestly, the only guy with a good effort today. Kid's gonna be a monster with more experience.

Bench:

  • Jordan Henriquez: INC. Well, we thought he stayed in Manhattan when the team went to Wichita on Thursday. We found out today that he's not in Manhattan either. Played 3 minutes, managed to register 2 BLK, 1 TO, 2 fouls. Maybe if he was wearing a red-and-white striped sweater and beanie, we could find him easier.
  • Angel Rodriguez: B-. Typical performance from Angel. Out of control at times (3 TO), but came up with 4 REB and 2 AST, and made a good play late in OT following his own miss for a putback layup. Made 4 FTs down the stretch to put the game away. Kid got called for several fouls on drives by the NF guards - he needs to keep his hands up. He got caught reaching as the player went up for the shot, instead of forcing the player to come up through his body.
  • Adrian Diaz: A-. Playing in front of his family, Diaz got 16 minutes, and made the most of it. 4-5 FG for 8 points, and added 4 REB. Gets the 'A' because of his performance compared to expectations. He looked much more comfortable and effective than JO on the floor. He also exhibited some prowess in cutting down the lane, and making good moves once he has the ball. Also showed he can step out and hit a 16-foot jumper, which is crucial when you're not built like a mack truck (see: Thomas Gipson). Honestly outplayed his older brother Andy, who is the Ospreys' leading scorer.
  • Victor Ojeleye: C+. A defensive liability at times, came up with 2 REB in 5 minutes while HCFM was trying to find someone - anyone - that would put forth an effort. He put forth the effort - he's just not that talented.
  • Jeremy Jones: C. Ojeleye, Jones and Lawrence all played for the same reason - no one else was playing worth a damn outside of The Big Gip. Jones has great speed and I see a lot of talent in him, and he has probably the best looking jumpshot on the team (he connected with a 18-footer). He has a hard time taking care of the ball, and has a lot of the same hand-check tendencies Tay does. 2 TOs and 3 fouls in 7 minutes? Need more positive production than that.
  • Omari Lawrence: INC. Came in for one minute, grabbed a board, scored a putback, went back to the bench. Wake-up call substitution by HCFM. Didn't work.
  • Nino Williams: C. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, as he took several concussions last year, forcing the medical redshirt last season. That said, I am entirely unimpressed by the four-star recruit. He's not great on D, he's more or less a non-factor on offense. Played for four minutes, missed both shots he took, grabbed a board, made an assist. He honestly looks lost out there in game situations. Didn't do anything overly negative during his PT, but didn't do anything particularly positive, either.

No one else saw the floor in game situation.

We have a little less than a week off before taking on nationally-ranked Alabama (that beat this same NF team by 20) at the Sprint Center in Kansas City. I wish all of our players the best during Finals Week this week.

Go study, pass your tests, and for Pete's sake (who is Pete, anyway?), GET READY TO PLAY BASKETBALL NEXT WEEKEND.

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Awesome work again.

This writeup was executed way better than the Cats played today.

Agree with everything. Only thing I’ll add is a question: just how important is Shane Southwell to this team’s success? I don’t have an answer in mind, but this was really the first game all year where effort was an issue. Feels like with Shane there’s a lot of head scratching moments, but he does a whole lot of good. His absence was felt today.

by yeahboozin on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

And thus is the Southwell Paradox.

Just something that can’t be explained.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty passes, solid D, sometimes ugly shooting, and some derps.

Yup, sounds right.

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by Sean T on Dec 11, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out Will this game.

He had decent stats but during the game he seemed to disappear at times.

I’m still wondering if the team wasn’t feeling the best.

Glad for the win.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 11, 2011 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

and nice write up.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 11, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

The reason I plussed him compared to Jamar...

Well, that should be obvious. Will did constantly have the ball going through his hands, and ended up with only 1 TO. He had a very confusing game, but he did absolutely nothing to jeopardize it, IMO.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 11, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but if he could show the aggressiveness he did at the end of the 2nd from the get-go this team is never in this position.

I want Will taking a lot more shots. Yes, that seems silly when he’s taken 12, but in the first half he was far too passive.

We don’t have very many good outside threats, especially with Rod and Angel struggling to shoot. So we really need Will to be willing to be selfish.

His 9 assists are nice, but he has Big Gip to thank for many of those.

by yeahboozin on Dec 11, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Will plays smart, I agree.

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by Anon_the_younger on Dec 11, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

it shows with all of those charges he takes

you can’t just “luck” into that, you have to know where people are and be able to get rapidly into position. Though his ball-handling vision is sometimes not so good, he makes up for it with effort

by jtarkman on Dec 12, 2011 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I am very happy with Diaz' performance. I was expecting nothing from him this year.

I am hoping for a 5 pt/ 4 reb average during conference play from him. I think that would be pretty good for the 4th big!

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by Sean T on Dec 11, 2011 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

Agree 100%

Very impressed with Diaz today. He’s going to be a player.

by yeahboozin on Dec 11, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, it could be worse

We could be Chiefs fans

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by Sean T on Dec 11, 2011 5:51 PM CST reply actions  

How much do you get paid to do that?

Because really… I could get that at least 3 yards further down the field.

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by Catbacker98 on Dec 11, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of us are Chiefs fan...

Wait nevermind, I’m on hold with that fandom till Stanzi playes damn’t!

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Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Dec 12, 2011 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It's very sad when 70% FT shooting is a good thing

But you’re right, it is. I’m going to go cry now.

by Ahearn Alley on Dec 11, 2011 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

What the FUCK?

I try to spend a relaxing day at the ranch and I come home to this shit?

I’m so glad I missed this one. I would have stroked out. Anyone hear from TB? He was there and may have.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
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by BlackCats on Dec 11, 2011 9:06 PM CST reply actions  

I was there. I survived.

It was as ugly in person as it was on TV. No energy from the very beginning.

I will also note that Shane Southwell was not the only K-Stater suffering from the flu today. Our own BracketCat, who was supposed to join me at the game, woke up with the bug and couldn’t make the trip.

All things considered, I think I would’ve rather been on the ranch.

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by TB on Dec 11, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Had it on the DVR and had to watch in FF - no person should be subjected to that level of pain for that long.

Gitmo would be a vacation compared to watching that in real time.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mac attack ict on Dec 12, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It was painful.

The best part is my ESPN3 feed crapped out when we went behind in the second half, and I got it back up and running when we got back to tie-game. So i was thankfully spared the moments of being down 9. To NORTH FLORIDA.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 12, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I know student attendance was poor for several reasons

1. No-name opponent always breeds nonchalance attitude towards showing up
2. Its the weekend before finals and a lot of the kids are “studying”

I saw several students come in, get their ticket scanned, then turn around and leave (so they can get points for the KU line-up). I even heard some ticket-takers discussing the matter.
A lot of students left at halftime for the above reasons, especially since we had the lead (sorta) at that point.
Im not trying to make excuses, because I was very upset with poor turn-out and attitude. A few minutes into the second half, Rodney looked at us and raised his hand because we were so quiet and non-committal. I know at least those around me started yelling/cheering a lot more after that…shouldnt need prodding though

by jtarkman on Dec 11, 2011 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

^This is the point.

Want to be taken seriously as a basketball school? Then the first step is to show up to the home games. How many empty seats are they leaving at the Phog even when playing East Montana Tech?

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Dec 11, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

None.

Non-students buy up all the tix that end up not getting used. Phog’s always full.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 11, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

And thats actually part of the reason I enjoy going

I like seeing a coach that actually cares enough to try to teach his kids. Its not pretty, either on the court or what comes out of his mouth, but its good to see the passion for educating these guys never goes away.
I guess I’m just a sports/education nerd that way, and it probably comes from my dad doing some of the same stuff to me and his band (without most of the language) when I was in high school.

by jtarkman on Dec 12, 2011 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

+1,000,000 and rec'd.

It is what it is. We should be used to it by now.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 12, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I do too.

I use “frank” as an adjective and “frankly” as an adverb quite often. It would make a lot of sense to expand it to use as a verb as well.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 13, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

They also have nothing else to do with their free time

except smoke weed and jerk-off…

/onlyteasing
/sorta
/notreally

by jtarkman on Dec 12, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Great write up, E. Awesome job.

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by Panjandrum on Dec 12, 2011 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

Other than echoing Pan's thoughts above ...

We need more from McGruder. I’m not saying we need to lean on him to be a star player. Far from it, I’ve always known he doesn’t have that talent in him. But we need him to NOT SUCK in terms of FG%. Spradling, too, though he had the balls to knock down the big 3.

Another thing on Rod … finished with zero fouls. That means he wasn’t aggressive enough. There is a happy medium to personal foul totals. I’m not saying you go out there and commit fouls, but when you finish with no fouls, it’s almost always a telltale indicator that you weren’t aggressive enough. Will finished with 0, too, but he really did fill the stat sheet … especially from his spot on the floor, so it’s just about impossible to get on him about it in this case.

Now … I criticize those guys because I know they have more in them. We could obviously use more from Jamar, too, but that is a neverending story. When McGruder and Spradling don’t knock down their open jumpers, this KSU team is going to hurt. A lot.

That said, I still like the overall toughness and makeup of the team. It’s too bad we don’t have a go-to player to lean on, but that’s not changing.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 12, 2011 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

NOT SUCK. Eloquent, and right on target.

1) agreed – but this was Sprads’ first really horrific shooting game. Not ready to say he needs to NOT SUCK yet.
2) agreed entirely. I am disappointed if I finish with under 2 fouls, or more than 4 (obviously). I’m not protecting the rim enough if I don’t have at least 2 fouls in a game.
3) agreed, agreed, agreed.
4) The Big Gip is a MAN – let’s lean on him!

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 12, 2011 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Gipson is a candidate for go-to guy ...

after this year. This year, it’s obvious he can eat up the small conference types already. Will be interesting to see how fast he adjusts his game to the major conference level. If he can do that within this year, I’ll be amazed and very happy.

Jamar could be a go-to guy if he had half a clue how to play the game. For some guys, the game just doesn’t sink in.

I don’t see anyone else as even a candidate. Short or long term. Lots of good players, but no go-to guys. That needs to be remedied.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 12, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Jamar knows how to play the game.

I just think the doesn’t have the focus or drive to do it to the best of his abilities for 10 minutes at a time, let alone 40 minutes. Which is why he’s always excelled at coming off the bench. Even as a starter, I think his minutes need to be polled as a bench player – 3, 4, 5 minutes at a time, then get pulled for 5 minutes, then go back in for 3, 4, 5 more minutes. Force him to play in spurts, since that’s what he’s good at, and don’t let him soak up a spot for someone else when he’s completely ineffective. Unfortunately, until JO snaps out of his funk he’s in, we just don’t have a better option than JamSam without going stupid small. The way JO has played in the last two games, I’d rather have Jamar in there camping than JO fumbling balls out of bounds or trying to take the ball coast-to-coast. Just my two cents.

I agree with the lack of candidates for go-to guys. We don’t have a single person we can put the ball in their hands and say “go win the game”. That’s OK – lots of teams don’t have that. But it makes execution that much more imperative. I could see this team never getting run out of the gym by anyone we play. However, I do see us potentially losing a decent number of games that are winnable – 5 or 6 – because we don’t execute defensive stops or offensive plays like we need to – that is, perfect – in the last couple minutes of ballgames.

I’d love to be wrong.

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 13, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably one reason Diaz was getting a long look against North Florida.

And not just because his parents were in the house.

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by Catbacker98 on Dec 14, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I've said before that teams with athleticism and effort ...

That are committed to defense and rebounding can win a lot of games. No doubt. This team has more than enough on that front. This is, at the very least, a bubble team.

The go-to guy thing, to me, goes further than not having a guy that takes over games and puts the team on his back. Most teams don’t have a guy like that (as you say). This KSU team doesn’t even have a guy you can set up in an isolation situation for a key late possession with a good expectation of success. Gipson may get there (he’s probably already there against small conference types). I think he probably will. We could throw it down to Jamar … that’s a really fun rollercoaster. And currently, no guards are capable of reliably creating their own shots (or shots for anyone else) in the crunch. As you say … the entire team’s execution level has to be high in the big possessions. That’s not usually a good recipe for big success for anyone. We’re in total agreement there.

We’ll probably have to disagree somewhat on Jamar. I think his basketball IQ is about 2.5 out of 10. The reigning king of the dumb foul. Prone to terrible turnovers. A black hole when the ball is thrown to him in the post … which is fine if he’s singled, but you can tell the thought never occurs to him where everyone else is on the court while he’s backing down. Jamar either plays hard or he doesn’t. When he does, his tools alone can dominate a game.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

The way Rodney played Sunday, if his FG percentage does NOT SUCK ...

it’s a good game from him. He didn’t foul because he wasn’t getting beaten on D. He played with what I though was an appropriate amount of aggression on offense most of the game, until he started passing up open jumpers. I hate to make this comparison, but Jake would have continued to try to shoot out of the slump. But Rodney did a good job on the things he could control: defense and effort. You have limited ability to control whether the ball goes through the hoop. His FG% is bound to improve.

Will struggling at the same time as Rodney really hurt. For a big stretch, Gipson was the only guy we could trust to put the round thing through the metal thing. But Spradling had a great game otherwise. 9 assists (probably on some generosity from the home scorer) to only 1 turnover, 5 rebounds, a charge taken, 2 steals, and 3 blocks! For his entire career to this point, he had 1 block.

Jamar is basketball bi-polar. I’ve come to accept this. I will say, his stat line from Sunday defies the game I was watching: 12/5/2/3/3. But if he had been Good Jamar, he could have taken this game over the way Gipson nearly did. Speaking of, our scoring and rebounding leader is a slightly under-tall freshman power forward. Great hands, great body control and coordination, strength, effort. If Gipson can get his FT% to 65, he will be absolutely my favorite post player since the White Tiger, for much more legitimate reasons.

But I still can’t help but smile thinking of Kent successfully forcing a miss by Brackins while holding a hand up to his face to catch the blood pouring out his busted nose.

by AMS on Dec 12, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never heard it put that way before.

“Put the round thing through the metal thing”

Totally stealing that. I’ll give you credit until I forget to. :)

Oh, come on now. That's just stupid.
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by TheBigE on Dec 12, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I just thought it was appropriate.

Most of our players were struggling so bad shooting, they may as well have been at that stage in learning basketball. Fortunately, all other phases were played much better.

by AMS on Dec 12, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Rod is always going to give us the glue guy stats ...

Just like he did as a freshman and a sophomore. I really like the guy, but now that he’s a junior we need a little more from him. We’re getting too many poor shooting nights. He gets plenty of wide open looks. He’s got the tools, he’s got the skills, now we need him to cowboy-up and knock down a decent % of open shots when it matters. As of now, he’s 40% from the field (not great … plenty of putbacks in there), he’s 21% from 3 (pathetic), and he’s 57% from the line (that is an abomination from him). Maybe it’s not fair, but for Rod’s position on this team this year, we need more or this is trouble.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Dec 12, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

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