Postgame Thread: K-State Loses to Oklahoma State, 52-45
by TB on Nov 5, 2011 10:57 PM CDT
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We shouldn't even be upset.
All of us, in our heart of hearts, knew the odds on K-State winning this game were long. A lot of us were just hoping the Wildcats didn't get blown out. Then Oklahoma State jumped ahead 14-0, and it looked like the rout could be on. And in the second half, the Cowboys took a 10-point lead and it started to look like last week again. Except on the road.
Only it wasn't. In the first half, K-State forced Oklahoma State turnovers and jumped ahead. In the second half, the Cats ground things out on the ground, trading blows with OSU despite the K-State defense's obvious deficiencies. K-State took the lead, gave it up, tied it up again, then lost it again, and then had a chance to tie it up on the last play of the game.
I hate that the last play had to be a poor decision and throw by Collin Klein. Even though he made a bad play on the most crucial play of the game, he doesn't deserve even the slightest bit of blame for this loss. He was bruised, bloodied, absorbed cheap shots, and kept bouncing up and making big plays.
Although the defense periodically slowed down one of the best offenses in the country, the players are constantly out of position and gave up some crucial big plays. Despite all the good feelings I have for Bill Snyder and the job he's done this year, he will never achieve what he could if the doesn't replace Chris Cosh.
Take heart, K-State fans. I'm going to paraphrase Snyder here. Does this loss hurt? Yes? Good, that means you cared.
It's good to care again.
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I won't lie, that was a heartbreaker.
Love this team though.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
by Lynx rufus on Nov 5, 2011 11:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I am heartbroken and want retribution.
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Like I posted on the 2nd Half thread ...
I really feel worse than I thought I would.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Nov 5, 2011 11:06 PM CDT reply actions
Klein
Has to learn how to throw the ball. Still, I hope the team doctors have some miracle mending solution for the kid. He is getting pounded.
glad I saw the replay on that final play
It did look like the receivers were unsure of where to go. TT sorta let up. I’m not entirely sure that was all Klein making a bad throw.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Two WRs should never end up standing next to each other.
CK through the post pass, but someone ran the wrong route.
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22 for 39, for 232 yards and a TD, plus 29 carries for 145 yards, with 3 rushing TDs.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Earthquake in Wichita...
Bill must’ve let Cosh have it!
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My first thought was a plane or something exploded..
News says earthquake.
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5 point something.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
About 20 miles south of Stillwater.
Sparks, OK was the center.
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When did it hit
I heard talk of one earlier today
oh hail the Purple and White
This is a second, much larger tremblor.
Hit right around when the game ended. Felt from KC to DFW.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Welcome.
It was like 5.2 or something like that.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Upgraded to 5.6
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
I'm pretty sure he put his arm around him and blamed himself that we just didn't hold the ball long enough.
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Awww
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
no but if Jim L picks up the phone and says I'd like to become your D-coordinator
Bill would have no trouble naming Cosh a “Co” defensive coordinator once again. Esp if Co meant 35/65 Cosh/Leavitt….
Pipe dream of course.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I like the angle.
Does it cheer anyone up knowing lowly Baylor beat an SEC team tonight? I knew it wouldn’t work.
Also have to keep in mind that, who we all blame for not giving us a chance to win/stop the other team…6 of those 45pts came from an INT returned for a TD as well.
It is good to care again.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
And a derp of a fumble to start the game gave OSU another freebie
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SEC in name only
that don’t do something about that defense they’ll be fighting Vanderbilt for the conference cellar
We also have to remind ourselves that if KSU scored
unless they went for 2, would have only tied the game. Heartbreak could have been coming up in the next half hour if we were into OTs. Time to take out pseudo-Military school now. And to do it like we did in 2009.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I don't think there's any way we don't try to end it right there.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I would think Bill would have. But just no way of knowing.
Could of had a similar play as that final one to fail a 2pt conversion…and we would be in the same moods or worse.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I'll take a 50/50 play to win it every time.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
If you would have told me before the game
That Klein was unstoppable running in the second half, and that a KSU 2-point conversion attempt would be the difference between winning and losing, I’d take it. Alas, we didn’t get it in the end zone to set up the try.
by AMS on Nov 6, 2011 8:01 AM CST up reply actions
I was wondering that as well
If Snyder would have gone for 2 and the win.
5.2 magnitude earthquake by Sparks, OK
if you care.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:11 PM CDT reply actions
Felt all the way down here in DFW.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
here's the map
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US10/32.42.-100.-90.php
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
residence damaged by (or in) Rose Hill, KS
according to KAKE
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
texted my mom, she lives near Goddard
Said she was sitting in (a formal cushion upright) living room chair, and it moved her in the chair, shook the whole house
"Nor yet in Dell?"
updated to 5.6 magnitude.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
not around the KCK area, nothing felt here
hmm, my parents, I’ll have to see if they felt anything back in the ’ta
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Someone in that last game thread did.
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ground floor would be most likely to feel it.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
my house is a slab on grade, that's all I have is a ground floor
didn’t feel it. Live in Tonganoxie. Must have been way into the game.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I live in Shawnee ... I definitely knew it was happening.
So did my wife at North Kansas City Hospital
by Itchy n Scratchy on Nov 6, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I live in Perry. Didn't feel a thing.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe a fault line snakes its way up KS over towards that side of KC
I remember years ago, there was a small quake in Andover KS. That would be coincide a little bit with the house near Rose Hill that got some damage.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Has more to do with soil content then floor or what your sitting on.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Nov 6, 2011 2:01 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
nope.
Just actually liked science. How vibrations move, how fast, how far, how strong depend on the medium (in this case soil).
Think of croquet. When you hit someone else’s ball, if you put their ball against jello and hit the jello how far does it go? Sure some energy will be transferred but not much energy. But when you place a solid object (like your ball) against theirs and give it a good wack the thing takes off like a shot.
So a place like North Kansas City that practically sits on bedrock and caves is going to feel vibrations of a small quake more than say a farmer in south central Kansas with 20ft of topsoil under him.
Conversely though, a structure built on bedrock, or extremely close to it, will suffer less risk of damage as it will move as the earth moved. Typically, a few inches but big quakes can move several feet. Where as, think of soft topsoil as jello again, while it “softens” the vibration it can amplify the movement. Or God forbid liquefy. You feel little to no vibration, hear a roar like a train or tornado, then sink.
This is why I refuse to live in California or anywhere in Manhattan, Kansas unless it’s on the westside. Preferably northwest.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Nov 7, 2011 12:35 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not much chance of an earthquake in Manhattan, KS, so you shouldn't be that worried
And California has so many faults that they actually block each other, so earthquakes wouldn’t travel as far as this one did.
The rock under Kansas and Oklahoma is pretty solid so a vibration at one end ill transfer pretty well to the other end.
The rock under California has so many breaks in it, that the vibrations don’t actually travel that far.
Of course, those faults make earthquakes MORE likely, so I could understand the reluctance to live there.
Still, it takes a BIG earthquake to cause the ground to liquefy. That usually doesn’t happen.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 7, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
You know of the fault line directly under Tuttle Creek Dam, yes?
In my life, if there is a chance and I ignore it, it will happen.
Other than that, you’re spot on.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
if I recall correctly
anything west of Manhattan Ave and North of Poyntz will stay dry if the dam breaks. But that might be for lesser values of dry.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 7, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
Well, yeah, but there is a clearly defined flood path for that, which Anon delineates above.
So just be picky about what part of the city you live in.
As for your life, could you buy a lottery ticket and give it to me?
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 7, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
That's why I said:
unless it’s on the westside. Preferably northwest.
I would also spring for the extra $12.73 a year for the earthquake rider on my homeowners policy. Yes, I priced it out on a few houses that have struck my fancy. Seems like it only changes a few cents as the replacement value changes.
I will amend my previous statement. If there is a chance of something BAD happening and I ignore it, it will happen. Plus, I just can’t bring myself to buy a lotto ticket.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Er....
/runsquicklyoutofroom
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 7, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
But see, that would be bad, for you.
Because you actually bought a winning lottery ticket, but you gave it away.
I think that would fit the bill. Come on, I could use a few extra million…
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 7, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, great. We lose a heartbreaker, and now Maroon 5 is on SNL and my wife is panting at Adam Levine.
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And you're complaining?
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Maroon 5 sucks donkey balls.
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I'm more talking about his possibilities after Adam Levine is done on TV
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Ah, okay...
I’m a bit of a Maroon myself, tonight.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
that doesn't seem like the correct action.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking along the same lines.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
And that's enough about PJ's sex life
Thanks
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Thank you. I wasn't going down this road.
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"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
that line has been approached around here before....
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Raises hand.
I’ve helped in this regard. Though I’ve never referred to “laying pipe”, so there’s THAT in my favor.
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I'm glad TB put up this post-game thread.
The names I was coming up with weren’t printable.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Fire Chris Cosh Thread
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by BlackCats on Nov 5, 2011 11:28 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
there is a post about Cosh over the years,
he is not going to call a super defense but he can call a decent defense.
Giving up school record yardage is not a decent defense. Nor is calling a soft zone that allows team back into games and also to score quickly.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My ideas had issues with threats of emasculation added, though.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
that's what got me to join about a year ago...I believe that was my first ever FanPost
"Nor yet in Dell?"
The one where I was taking nominations for his replacement?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
yea, it was right around that time...I guess that was right
It was yours. I’m not wanting to go to bed, I just might go hunt down my first post…
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Go for it!
That would make for an interesting fanpost: “What was your first post on BOTC?”
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Found it, first FanShot/FanPost that is
Appears that was October 25, 2010
But i think you’re right, your nomination thread was the first place I posted a comment in. Let me see if I can track that down now
It was a poll on where everyone takes in the games at BSFS. Though my second one was tracking the candidates for D-coordinator that came out of our nomination thread as the continuing weeks went on in last year’s football season.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Oh, that's right!
I forgot about your tracking post. Ah, the halycon days when we thought Dave Doeren might come be our DC and HC in waiting…
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
those WERE the days
I will say, I guess I’m at least a little bit happy that Cosh was able to con about 5 games out of us before we remembered exactly what he was. I think Texas Tech was about the game where it was obvious again. I didn’t say much, because well we were still winning.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
After last week I was really un-motivated to look at the K-State defense
This week I might be more motivated but it isn’t complex … soft zone allows quick scores.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:16 PM CDT reply actions
I don't know about quick
They don’t seem to get baked on long plays all that often (the two last TDs notwithstanding), but they’re certainly easy scores. KSU gets no pressure, and has effectively 11 tackling dummies on the field until the pass is complete. What a joke.
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Volleyball team beat the Dog Lovers!
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Recap
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/110511aaa.html
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I thought only their men "loved" the dogs?
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...True
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cause it's your dog
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Nov 5, 2011 11:30 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
On a serious note -
How exactly can we pressure Snyder (because we know the Currie can’t do it) to get rid of Cosh? As near as I can tell, Snyder gives exactly not-one-fuck what anyone thinks about his program. And it is his program.
Any ideas?
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#occupyVanier
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
1% of the coaches give up 99% of the points
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by Sean T on Nov 5, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Clever, Lad!
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burmahunkalove.livejournal.com (occasional signs of life)
by MrHappyMushroom on Nov 5, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
get his email account, and then setup a Dummy USER ID for him on BOTC....when
he gets the confirmation link, he will be brought to see the light on all our knowledge.
How about #FakeChrisCosh twatter account?
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This needs to happen. Now. Like this very second.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I'm not funny enough
Pan! You’re up!
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it will be a bunch of twewwts about how to call a soft zone.....
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I also like the "twatter" typo.
Very freudian.
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A little love from Ubben (like I'd expect anything else)
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Kim Kardashian is a wh0re.
In other news, water is wet.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
And Chris Cosh can't coach his way out of a wet paper sack
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On another note (since there is no way I'm going to Sunday school tomorrow)
How about those special teams? They were rough early in the season, but DAMNED have they turned it on. I’m not a huge Cantele fan but I think he’s perfectly serviceable, Lockett is a stud, and I think Doerr and Ressel spent too much time together over the summer forgetting how to be awesome.
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Speaking of special teams...
while our returns were good, the kick offs and punting was really bad. Was there something wrong with our kickers leg?
I think those popup kickoffs might actually be called plays.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I agree
They happen too often to be mistakes at this point. I don’t like it. The BEST kickoff is a touch back.
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If that's the case I don't like it either
they kept starting with the ball on the 35 or 40. That’s a very good return. I don’t see the benefit unless you are terrified of a touchdown run.
if they started at the 20,
another play, another 10 seconds of clock time?
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
can't kick it out of the end zone in a 25mph wind.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Nov 5, 2011 11:36 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
True, but they did it WITH the wind too!
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yeah we kicked it deep
And they ran it to the 37. Their two deep can both return it. Keep it away and just go tackle an up man.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Nov 5, 2011 11:34 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Tonight's game was apparently the highest attendance ever in Stillwater.
GD it.
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I want to sports cry.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
When I was writing the initial game thread earlier...
…I looked up the capacity for Boone Pickens Stadium, and it’s 60,000-something. It said their largest crowd ever was 58,000-something.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was officially just a flat 60,000
but yea, I think that says a lot about the respect factor for KSU that they set an attendance record. Sure it also signified the first time in their history they had a chance to go to #2 in the country and start an easy street on the way to a nat’l title game. I’m guessing Bedlam hits the 60,000 mark though.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Yeah, it's 60,218 or something like that.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 6, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
Without looking at the box score
Guess the longest time for an OSU scoring drive?
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:33 PM CDT reply actions
I'll post the answer tomorrow by noon.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
2 minutes.
That’s what she said.
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I felt that way last week
I expecting the Cats to get killed, so I’m frankly rather pleased (except for Cosh). They just gave up in the 2nd half. There was none of the crap this week.
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Think of it this way:
We could be Missouri—or worse, Texas A&M!
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Or worse yet
KU!
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Some things are just beyond imagining.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Or Nubbie or Colorado.
They’re really faring well in their new homes. SECeders would be wise to take note.
I love Mexican soap operas.
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Time outs
How nice would they have been in this situation? We’ve got to get the play calls in. This is an example of where it cost us dearly.
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Very proud of the team
one of the more exciting games I’ve witnessed in some 45 years of watching KSU. Very proud of the effort, particularly Klein and the offensive line. Proud of the defensive effort, despite the breakdowns. Don’t know what we are going to do about Cosh, but I’m not in the mood to dwell on it now. (JMO).
Here’s to hoping for 10-2 and a win over an SEC team in the Cotton Bowl.
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I say they do if they're being let in.
I mean, that proves that the rest of the SEC thinks they belong and who are we to dispute the opinion of the greatest football conference ever.
The good news is that we are upset about a loss to the #2 team in the country at their home field
and we could have won it.
Considering how I felt after the 1st game … I’m proud of the team and the coaches for the most part.
I still do not like the soft zone defense.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
I agree, but I'm way past moral victories
by IndianaCatFan on Nov 5, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I did not claim moral victory
a loss is a loss.
better D and I think we win the game.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 5, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Any kind of D and the Cats win
With that said, Cosh is supposedly the run game coordinator, and Burns is the passing game coordinator (God only knows how that works). So Burns gets credit for the TOs the Cats keep acquiring, and Cosh gets the blame for the awful play calling? What do you think?
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no worries
I think this loss was avoidable.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 6, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
yea but everyone who says this doesn't think we could have been where we are now
at the beginning of the season. Unless you predicted being 8-1 at this point, I don’t know how you can say you’re above moral victories. I understand this is the role of a fan, to always want more. But damn. I can rewind back to as little as 3 years ago and there was some ugly shit on the KSU sidelines.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I'm on record as saying after the 1st game
I’d be happy w/ 3 wins. Fortunately K-State is way beyond that at this point.
Instead we are seeing games against ‘good’ teams where we coulda/shoulda won.
I finally looked at the box score this morning, 2 punts, 2 interceptions and 2 fumbles by OSU = 6 stops versus 9 scores. I do not think this is a sign of a good defensive scheme, regardless of who the other team is. I’ll bet money that OU stops OSU more than 6 times.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 6, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
OU is also very talented (if hurting) and better coached
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yea I'm in no way sticking up for "a sign of a good defensive scheme"
I’d be an idiot for doing so
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Just watched it again,
and Brodrick Brown’s “hit” on CK was maybe as bad as what Alexander did. Collin was clearly on the ground, and Brown ducked his helmet, and hit Collin in the back. How the hell isn’t that called?!? CK is such a tough sumbitch, though. Unlike RG3, he didn’t get up crying for a flag.
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Klein is setting up for a nice year next year. I'm proud of him and can't wait to see his Senior campaign.
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If he survives this season.
He’s just getting hammered.
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by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We have to get another running back for next year
and that is not a knock on Hulbert. Klein just can’t keep taking these hits. It is brutal to watch. More sick than watching nascar for the wrecks.
oh hail the Purple and White
There is a dynamite kid at Blinn, but he's going to A&M. Pbbbt.
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well put Furnace
Agree completely. Just need a meatier body. Can someone please tell me Joe Hall has offspring available? Rock Cartwright?
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I hear ya
It just seems like this year there have been opportunites, and we haven’t been able to take advantage of them
by IndianaCatFan on Nov 5, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And how did they overrule the Lockett catch on the sideline
college says there must be “irrefuatble evidence” to overrule the on field call, but they don’t come close to following it, like they do in the NFL. Even though we got a first down after that, it probably cost us 10 to fifteen seconds that we could have used at the end of the game.
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by Furnace76 on Nov 5, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When it comes to overturning a call in one of our games,
I think the standard is, “Kinda sorta looks like it might have been that other way, if you squint your eyes just right and stick your tongue out of the corner of your mouth.”
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by K.S.B. on Nov 5, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That call was absolutely horrible.
No different than the Missouri game, though.
At least Big 12 refs are consistent(ly bad)!
To illustrate how bad all-around they were, they robbed OSU of a first down with one of the most ridiculous spots I’ve ever seen, a full 3 yards short of where the guy actually went down.
Didn’t matter, though. I think OSU scored on the next play.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Washington's hanging around with Oregon.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Well, at least the Nubs got undressed in Lincoln. Gotta love that.
oh hail the Purple and White
Lyle Lovett was once married to Julia Roberts. How does this happen?
Also, why am I watching Entertainment Tonight?
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I'm not going to speculate on that one.
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by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Grow a set
And turn on ESPN
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
I'm kinda comatose after the stress of that game.
Also, I threw the remote across the room after that last play, and am too lazy to go get it.
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Entertainment Tonight?
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I'm Rick James, bitch
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by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
On the bright side, I did get to watch sexy clips from Mexican soap operas...
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
The Generalissimo likes...
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OK, reprieve granted.
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by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My mancard was in jeopardy?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Reprieve revoked
I think you know what you need to get your reprieve back.
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
More Mexican Soap Opera stars?
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YOUR INPUT IS NOT WELCOME HERE
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
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well...
i know it’s ridiculous she married him (15 years ago) but let’s be honest and admit that she isn’t hot AT ALL
She was once upon a time
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And welcome
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I just can't believe next year we're looking at replacing A&M and Mizzou with TCU and WVU.
God, it’s going to be a gauntlet.
I’d rather have Mizzou and A&M.
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by Panjandrum on Nov 5, 2011 11:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't even realize Baylor beat Missouri until I watched the news after our game.
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by TB on Nov 5, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still not convienced
TCU and WVU will be barnstormers in the B12.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
They're solid,
but TCU is in a bit of a downturn, as is WVU.
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I think the difference between Utah and TCU is
Gary Patterson. Though I would expect for year one, the ceiling to be about 6-3 for the Horned Frogs
"Nor yet in Dell?"
David Garrett just apologized on Twitter for the loss.
Not your fault, bro.
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Love DG. This makes me hate Cosh so much more. So. Much. More.
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by Panjandrum on Nov 5, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Breathing makes you hate him more.
Wish Rat was a JR.
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Truth.
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How great a game did Malone have?
I was impressed! Even though Blackmon broke away at the end, that was because Okie made adjustments to our base defense.
oh hail the Purple and White
And the only thing Cosh "adjusted"
was his junk while standing on the sideline.
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by K.S.B. on Nov 6, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't understand
how a Bill Snyder coached team can’t make defensive adjustments at half?
It's all on the coordinator.
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I got nothing but love for every player on that defense.
Even Hartman. They’re all fighting an uphill battle just to be decent.
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can an all-timer like Snyder,
not see incompetence right under his nose?
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Man, isn't there a mid-major somewhere we can Pawn Cosh to?
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately his loalty
is a major flaw in this case.
This is the great mystery.
oh hail the Purple and White
We would have the worst D in the country
if we didn’t have so much talent to offset the major coaching flaws!
We already had that scenario, and we actually had like the worst defense in the country.
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Yeah, I like to call that...
…“2010.”
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
This gives me a sportslump in my throat.
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Geez, I can't turn ET off.
They keep flashing sexy Mexican soap scenes!
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I have to say...
…I loved what Mike Gundy said after the game when they asked him about the Alabama/LSU game.
“Maybe they should’ve been watching our game.”
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by TB on Nov 6, 2011 12:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha
Good for him. Gundy’s a bit of a dork, but he’s personable and he’s not Bob Stoops. What’s not to like?
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by Sean T on Nov 6, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The second part. not being a Bobby.
He gave us a heartfelt “credit to Kstate”…sounded more genuine than typical coach-speak
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I love that the SEC's "Game of the Century"
turned into a boring $h!tfest of a game, decided by 4 missed Alabama FGs.
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by K.S.B. on Nov 6, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Also, I'm not convinced CK made a bad play there at the end.
He threw the ball where a post route should have taken one of the two WRs who ended up standing in the exact same spot. One of those two guys ran the wrong route, I’d guess.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Yes, one of them was clearly supposed to be in the back of the endzone
2 receivers next to each other like that just lets a single defender cover both.
Still, in a perfect world Klein would have seen that and adjusted. I think he still had a second or two before the pressure got to him to find another target.
With all of those big bodies in front of him,
CK was (it looked like) throwing to a spot where he thought his WR would be.
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It was a timing play and one of the wideouts ran the wrong route.
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Most likely the case, yes. That's what I meant by "throwing to a spot."
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I'm incredibly proud of our boys.
I also don’t think Cosh is as fault as many would like to suggest. We actually did blitz a couple times tonight that I can remember and one of them ended up with a Hartman pick. I loved the different play calling on offense this game. When you look at it from a defensive standpoint, most teams will have this kind of trouble against OSU… If you blitz them, the majority of the time their receivers will burn you in 1 on 1 coverage. You sit in a zone, Weeden has time to sit back and pick apart that defense. It’s a catch 22 and I’m actually proud all around with how they played.
I would not have minded seeing a Klein run with 12 seconds when we still had that time out left compared to him having to throw it into double coverage, but overall I don’t really have any complaints with this game other than we lost it in a close one.
I'll say this - I think OSU scores 52 against a lot of teams when they are pushed like that
Still, it was obvious the defense had 0 chance of stopping them there at the end, which was disappointing.
I was also expecting at least 1 klein run there, then call the timeout. But that probably would have limited us to 2 plays instead of 3, so i can’t complain too much about that call.
We were lucky to get that third play
I think the clock operator started the clock a little late and stopped it a little early.
I also think we should have ran it first and then used the TO.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the same on the first play
with the timeout. Run CK (who was on a roll at that point) out of shot gun with Braden to his Right and Hubbert behind
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I'm assuming this was a record passing performance for Klein?
He impressed greatly with many of his throws. Still made some questionable decisions, but you really can’t fault this guy for anything. He played with heart and put this team in a position to win at the end of the game.
I still think we should have tried to run it in on 1st and goal from the shotgun when we still had our last time out. Then we could have used it to actually stop the clock instead of trying to get them to jump off-sides.
Also, there is a good chance Klein would have scored.
Would you like some Freys with that?
Cosh please get rid of the sorry excuse for a pass defense.
I counted a total of 3 blitzes…only one of which cost us. Otherwise we let another QB and WR tandem set record numbers against us. The run defense has improved but unless Nigel Malone undercuts a receiver we are just getting shredded. I really hope Snyder has seen enough.
Guttiest performance by the offense and special teams all year. But the Cosh prevent is just rubbish.
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Maybe Cosh should get rid of himself
by SCKSChief on Nov 6, 2011 8:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You Wanna Trade?
Just came by to congratulate you guys. Your team played one helluva game. I know, moral victories suck, but they beat the bejesus out of peeing down your leg on a regular basis.
You wouldn’t want to trade coaches, would you? Ours is a really big deal. Just ask him. He’ll tell you all about it.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 6, 2011 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
I'll trade. He was a TCU descendant of the almighty 4-2-5
We were running 2 LB most of the night, and all through last year Cosh proved he sucks when only 2 LB are on the field. So yes. Couldn’t be any worse. Your problem is, up until McNeil’s last few years, there was no emphasis on defense. You haven’t had many athletes come to your school to be on defense in a long time. I’d wait out your guy until year 2. Year 2 you should be able to tell how bad/good he is.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I wouldn't trade him for Snyder
But I would definitely in a heartbeat trade him for Cosh.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't trade him fir Snyder either
I thought the guy was talking about their first year DC at TT….that’s who I was talking about, trading D-coordinators straight up. I must have misunderstood
"Nor yet in Dell?"
OH, well, if that is the case, then I support your trade agreement.
When can we make this happen?
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking more like fantasy football
Only with coaches instead of players.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 7, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Could we have called running play with 1 sec left
I mean isn’t the game over only when the play is whistled dead? Even the throw took more than 1 sec. Why not go for a running play with a Clein keeper? That’s what gave us critical yards whole night long. Or we could have faked run and slipped a TE in the backfield and tried a high lob pass, kinda like Miami. Anyway hind-sight is 20-20.
Man!wish Malone picked up that interception. That could have gone for another 6.
It honestly looked to me...
…on replay and very slow motion, that HBCK had a lane to run to his left into the endzone.
But that wasn’t the play, and CK played one of the guttiest performances I’ve seen.
by apewatcher on Nov 6, 2011 8:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agree with this
actually, he had that lane to his left on both of the last two pass plays. A designed fake pass to the right, and Klein quick reverse field around left tackle / end probably scores.
But how sweet was that play call and catch by Harper that got us to the 5 yd line? I knew that throw back pass was coming on THAT play. If it could only have gone for the TD!
oh hail the Purple and White
I think the guy, as humble as he is
Sorta didn’t want the end of the game heroics and decided to ride out the play as called. I think you could see in the close up shots of his face, his sense of urgency was a little heightened (I wouldn’t say he looked nervous, no). So I think his line of thought was a little more closer to just sticking with the play instead of improvising. I saw the lane as well, and thought if this was in the 2nd qtr, and the score was tied he definitely would have gone for it.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Might have already been said
But how, with 12 seconds on the clock AND a timeout in your pocket, do you NOT let Klein run the ball even once? That was an abject coaching failure. Coordinators freaked under pressure. Still MUCH closer than anticipated.
by SCKSChief on Nov 6, 2011 8:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
HBCK records and personal bests watch:
Last night, Klein set personal bests for rushing yards and passing yards with 144 and 231, respectively. His previous bests were 141 last year against Missouri and 195 earlier this year against Kansas.
He is on pace to pass Ell Roberson for 100 yard rushing games by a QB for a season (4), rushing attempts by a QB in a season (227), and rushing yards by a QB in a season (1,032). He is tied with Daniel Thomas for most rushing touchdowns in a season, just one behind the school record of 20 set by Mack Herron in 1969.
Damn...
…hope they take their disappointment to make Beergut and the yell leaders cry.
by apewatcher on Nov 6, 2011 8:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I think Okie Lite scores at least 31 against Bama or LSU
Look, Cowboy is that good on offense. I thought our defensive schemes were much more varied than agaisnt Sooner. Cosh sucks, but last night’s defense was much better than the one that showed up agaisnt Sooner, and the effort and attitude from the players was there to the last snap.
oh hail the Purple and White
I disagree
Offenses always get rusty in December. LSU is talented enough, particularly on pass rush, to keep OSU off balance and vulnerable. I think LSU would spank OSU in a title game. And that makes me really sad.
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I guess I could see that
Is their defense good enough to stop LSU from scoring 30 though? That’s a tough question.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
OSU defense would not hold LSU to under 30
I’m just saying that the Cowboy offense would put up some real points on those great SEC defenses.
oh hail the Purple and White
I don't think so.
Not a popular opinion, probably, but the LSU D will handle OSU, OU, or any other offense. They are monsters. The LSU D could blind-squirrel their way to 24 points on the OSU D and it would be over. jmo.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Nov 6, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
CFN analysis of the game
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1125159.html – very nice press from a group who doesn’t usually like the Cats too much.
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Lots of good points in there, sadly they don't change the result
Did not realize their K was also their P, no missed kicks and he pins us at the 1, unsung performance there.
HBCK for 2013 QB in the NFL draft, whoah.
No mention of Kevin Lockett by any of the writers saddens me. 300+ yfs and 1 TD deserves a shout out.
if HBCK makes it to the NFL it would be ala Eric Crouch
A position change would have to be part of that endeavor. There’s no way HBCK plays QB in NFL
"Nor yet in Dell?"
HBCK doesn't have enough quick-twitch muscle to play anything in the NFL other than QB ...
And we know he’s not doing that.
Unless he gains 40 pounds and plays TE. And that’s probably barely within the realm of what’s possible.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Nov 6, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I was always figuring
I think he’s be a badass at TE, but he would take a few years to get there.
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Well it is official...Mizzery is gone.
Don’t let the dooor smack you on trhe way out….on second thought I hope it gives you a concussion!!!
by AmmoCat on Nov 6, 2011 10:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
which is bull shit.
I’d put our resume against any two loss team out there. How do you drop when you do better than expected against #3? Well I know how, but I’m still pissed.
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by BlackCats on Nov 6, 2011 12:19 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
The Coaches are morons, and that poll needs to be shut down.
That is all.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
What sucks is...
The AP poll doesn’t count in the BCS rankings, but the Coaches poll does…no love! I hope we rip A&M’s heads off.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
If we do, the Coaches will drop us to 24, because Tamu was overrated.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
On the top 10
I was thinking a “what if”…What if Oregon whips Stanford. I want to see this happen so Andrew Luck ends up getting less bj’s from ESPN….wait I mean.
I think if you have a 1 loss Oregon vs a 1 loss ‘Bama team, then all of the sudden you can’t say that there should be a rematch of ‘bama-LSU (assuming LSU doesn’t choke against Arkansas), because Oregon would have a case to make as to why don’t we get a shot at a rematch? And it would force human polls to consider that, to help prevent that.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
never under estimate the absurdity of the BCS matchups.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 6, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
The coaches will vote down any rematch
Just like they did with Ohio State-Michigan that one year.
They will not let Alabama/Oregon into the title game vs LSU. I guess they MIGHT let in Oregon, since they are in a different conference, so that throws out the “they didn’t win their own conference” argument. But they still don’t like to see rematches.
Any other one-loss team would get in over ’bama, and probably over Oregon as well. Unless LSU loses a game.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 6, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
If OU wins out and Stanford loses a game, i think they have a good shot
Their SOS will beat out an undefeated Boise St., they’re already ahead of Oregon and every other 1 loss team, with the only possible exception being Alabama. And I agree, I think the human polls might decide to stick OU in the game over bama to avoid the rematch.
The thing that will come into play there
will be the loss that each OU and Oregon have. You watch, the pollsters will jump Oregon ahead of Oklahoma on the merits of that one loss; assuming both win out and LSU stays undefeated.
I'm sorry but their #3 ranking is BS
I don’t care how “good” the “game of the century” was or not. A nat’l title contender is good in all facets of the game. A nat’l title contender never missing 4 FGs in one game, no matter how good they are. You can’t discount the third unit when making a case. They should be #4 and have to work their way back.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I'm calling it, here and now:
if the BCS doesn’t do an idiotic rematch, whoever the SEC champ is will lose by 2 TDs to whoever they play.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
They ARE pretty stout.
But they’re made to look even MORE stout by the fact that they were playing each other’s offenses.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I can see that side
I just don’t know if the run games in the B12 are consistent enough to work some advantages.
If you beat those two, it won't be running, in my opinion.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
With LSU
I think it has to be…the DBs are just so fast. Look how Florida really clamped down on OU in the ’08 game. Nowhere for the OU receivers to run. I think there has to be a serious run presence and take advantage of play-action.
I’m not trying to discount what you’re saying, just showing my position a little clearer.
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