K-State Slate: 11.22.11
by TB on Nov 22, 2011 7:09 AM CST
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Collin Klein has been limited to "mental reps" in practice, which may partially explain his ineffectiveness against Texas.
Along with Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, K-State can still claim a share of the Big 12 title with a win over Iowa State and an OU win over OSU.
Bill still has K-State in the Cotton Bowl. If you want a BCS bowl game, it would be wise to pull for Ohio State to beat Michigan, unlikely though it may be.
K-State Basketball
Frank Martin announced the signings of Robert Upshaw and Laimonas Chatkevicius yesterday.
College Football
Rich Rodriguez will replace Mike Stoops at Arizona.
Big 12 Basketball
Two Big 12 teams got big wins yesterday. KU beat vaunted Georgetown, the school that couldn't possibly lose a recruit to K-State unless K-State cheated, 67-63. In Kansas City, Missouri destroyed Notre Dame, 87-58.
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Largest crowd ever to see us play?
Well, alright then. I’ll take a win in those conditions.
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Haskin slipped up a little...
The first time we didn’t win the time of possession battle was against OU, not Texas. This is the second time this season we lost that particular battle.
Would you like some Freys with that?
Wait, wait, wait.
How did I not know Jonathan Beasley is a GA? This explains a lot.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
I think this is even his second season
Former DE Blake Seiler another GA on staff, for defense of course.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Speaking of former Wildcats...
Brandon Clark (former KSU WR) is the coach where I went to high school (Derby, KS), and Shelby Wehrman (former KSU LB) is the assistant coach.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Beasley's 3rd season as GA
Many people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so.-Bertrand Russell
by Dr. van Strijcker on Nov 22, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. We hired him away from there when Snyder returned.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Looking ahead, assuming WVU and TCU simply replace A&M and MU on the schedule in some order
Will it be possible for the Cats to have bye weeks that aren’t the 2nd and 13th weeks of the season?! Yeah, the 2nd week was nice after that opening game near-disaster against EKU, but the 13th week is almost ridiculously late. How about week 10 instead?
Anyway, I’m excited to see the two signees, but I have no expectations they’ll be good for much going into next year. JO should be a stud by then, and Gip is going to be hard to remove (we hope!) from the starting lineup.
I think the chance of a BCS bowl is fairly remote, but possible. I’m MUCH more excited about the Big 12 championship possibility. I feel so dirty, but Go Boomer Land-Thieves!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I don't think our BCS chances are as remote as some think
Granted some things might have to play out like Houston or Michigan losing, but there are some publications including some tv analysts projecting us in if OSU beats OU and we win Dec 3. I tend to agree. While I know this argument is moot to selection committees, the big 12 is number one in the computers and could possibly have 9 bowl eligible teams, so to not have 2 teams in seems pretty ludicrous.
I’m happy with whatever happens as long as we beat Iowa State. Let the chaos begin this week!
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
We have a 13th week bye because KSU and ISU agreed to change the game date.
That put the game on a weekend when there were fewer teams playing (due to it being playoff week) and the opportunity for it being televised nationally was better. Snyder also referenced getting it off of the holiday weekend so coaches, etc., could have time with families.
Made sense then and makes more sense now with the turn of events. Snyder is definitely showing he’s thinking more about things like his Asst Coaches and their families this time around.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
yea I like the fact that we had two bye weeks
esp this late with Klein having to take off the last 2 weeks anyway. Gets us healthy and also makes the time frame between the bowl and last regular season game less dramatic = shouldn’t be as rusty.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Last year
We played on Thanksgiving weekend, and really only had one bye week (because of the two Thursday games).
In 2009 we did not have a bye week at all, our last game was 11/21.
In 2008 we ended on 11/22, and had another screwy bye week situation with the Wednesday night Louisville game.
In 2007 we played Fresno State on 11/24 (saturday after Thanksgiving), and had a bye week on week 4.
In 2006 we played our last game on 11/18 and had no bye weeks.
In 2005 we played our last game on 11/19 and had a bye week on week 3.
KSU doesn’t have the schedule for 2004 on the official website, and I’m getting tired of looking these up anyway, but you see a trend (or should).
Point being, from what I remember, last year and the Fresno State game are the only seasons I can remember where we actually played a game on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Also, with the exception of the seasons when we had a weekday game, we have had either one (or zero) bye weeks.
As long as we don’t have a conference championship game, I would expect the scheduling to continue this way (last game during “championship week” and 2 bye weeks). If we go back to 12 teams and a championship game, I would expect us to finish the season prior to Thanksgiving, and return to one (possibly zero) bye week.
Snyder has explained his reasoning for not playing on Thanksgiving weekend in the past because THAT is the time for the players to spend with their families since they were not getting to spend time at Christmas because we were bowling (at least for 11 straight years). And that makes perfect sense to me. And if I was a player, I think I would rather do it that way, than have a game on Thanksgiving weekend AND go bowling, and not be able to spend time with family for either one (however, I know a lot of the player’s families would travel to the bowl location and have their family Christmas there instead of at home.)
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
only other season where we played the Sat after T-giving was 2001
That unfortunately was due to 9/11 that year. To be clear, obviously I’m stating it was unfortunate for 9/11 to occur at all, not the fact that a piddly football game had to get moved. Anyway I think we played Iowa State that Saturday because La Tech took their spot in the schedule who we were supposed to play the weekend following the tragedy.
I can’t echo your sentiments enough Jeremy, in complete agreement.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I forgot about 2001. You are right.
I had to look up the schedule after you mentioned it.
We played LA Tech on 11/17 and Mizzou on 11/24.
And then followed it up with the dreadful Insight Bowl against Syracuse on 12/29.
Looking back on it, I’m not sure how the schedule was rearranged. It almost seems that maybe LA Tech fit into a bye week? But that would mean that we had originally scheduled to play Mizzou the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and Snyder was already in his “we want to give the kids Thanksgiving to spend with their families because we will be bowling at Christmas” philosophy. Hmmm. Interesting.
At first I thought maybe everyone in the country just slid all their games back a week, but that’s obviously not the case here, because we would have played them earlier in the season. Very curious as to how this was actually manipulated.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
it was as I described...
La Tech had an open spot later in the season (11/17), so Missouri agreed to move their game to the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Worked out too that KSU was not the host site for a state football championship game that weekend as that’s usually when they play them, and they were previously a site for that.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Good point
So maybe move the first bye week back to the week just before conference then? Anyway, I hadn’t even thought about how nice it will be for Honey Badger and his team to be with their families this week.
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Snyder has said a bye week before conference starts is his preference
I bet he wouldn’t mind even going a week or 2 into conference first.
Agreed.
I believe this year was jenky because of going from 8 conference games to 9 and having to drop one of the already scheduled non-conference games.
Ideally, the bye would come in week 5 (4 games, bye week, then 8 games), but that would put it into the conference schedule. And that might not be a bad thing if we are going to continue opening against Baylor (I’m assuming they will not get another RGIII and won’t always be this challenging for us).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
and by the sounds of it, it's likely Briles gets job offers left and right as well
Some speculate he’s holding out for the UT opening.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
If Baylor beats Longhorn this year
Briles might get his shot at that job pretty darn quick. Although I can’t see the big shots in Austin “stooping” to pick a former Houston and Baylor coach.
oh hail the Purple and White
all they care about is winning, and the guy can develop qbs
which is currently a deficiency for both
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Regarding the scheduling
I believe I have read in multiple places that TCU and WVU will not simply take over aTm and Mizzou schedule spots. The entire conference schedule is going to get overhauled again. So I guess that means it is possible, when they do this, there could be another situation where teams have to make a repeat visit to a team again next year (I sure hope we don’t have to play in Memorial Stadium or Lubbock for a 3rd consecutive game). I’m not exactly sure WHY TCU can’t just “replace” aTm in the conference schedule and WVU “replace” Mizzou, but that’s what I’ve read. And then, if we pick up two more teams in a year or two, we will have to play conference schedule upset all over again.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Texas wants to play TCU on Thanksgiving, and there's probably some other games people would rather move around
It might make sense to have KU/KSU at the end of the year instead of the KU/MU game, for example, rather than just replacing it with a KU/WVU game.
I agree
now that Mizzou is gone, I think KSU/KU game should move to “rivalry week”. We have actually ended our season with Mizzou quite a few times, and played ISU at the front of the season.
I’m not opposed to monkeying with the schedules again, I just would hope that it can be done without any more repeat visits.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Boooo
I guess simply having TCU play UT, and WVU play KU that weekend would have been too easy.
Anyway, moving the Sunflower beatdown to the end of the season would be fine with me.
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Alright I see it already.
We have to play UT at Darryl K again next year.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
This is an excellent prediction - I'll bet they make that happen.
oh hail the Purple and White
Hadn't even thought about that.
And you’re right, if the rescheduling is going to cause duplicates again, then I bet certain people might try to make this happen. Although, wouldn’t they rather at least get beat on the road? Then they sort of have an excuse.
lol
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Now available at the K-State Store:
MWAHAHAHAHA
They’re only available until Nov 30, apparently. Linky
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by jonfmorse on Nov 22, 2011 10:41 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Doesn't KSB live in Texas?
Who else lives in Texas, and we need to be sure they all get one!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
And a little snark about the teams the Cats beat
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/22/2580517/kansas-state-shirt-texas-state-champs
Here’s hoping the Cats don’t wind up facing Keenum in the BCS to put this theory to the test (I’m assuming that since KSU beat Baylor, and Baylor beat TCU, KSU would beat TCU).
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
wow
We beat the whole (D1) state of texas by 15 total points. Not sure how I feel about that.
K-S-U ! will carry the banner high
K-S-U ! long long may the colors fly
by motown wildcat on Nov 22, 2011 12:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
+1
It’s better than going 3-1 with an average score of +40……
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UTEP, NT, TCU, Houston, Rice would all like to have a word with you
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Don't forget the SMU.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
the SMU that beat Baylor!
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
SMU didn't beat Baylor
They beat TCU.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
D'oh! That's what I meant.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
D'oh! I forgot the Mustangs!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
and you're all leaving out tTSTC
roll tire.
I hear they just hired Kenny Powers as their MFChancellor
As you can imagine, he’s already working on a Athletic shoe/uniform contract with KSwiss
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Hey TB...
… when does your Spencer Hall-esque trip diary of Austin come out?
/peer pressure
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Yeah!
I’d like to hear about the trip that left you so traumatized you needed a day+ to recover.
Do you remember any of it?
/occupationalhazard
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
It's 2/3s written...
…but it won’t be very Spencer Hall-esque.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 22, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Remember that dissapointment is the gap between reality and expectation.
And our expectations are high…
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Nov 22, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
as long as there are pictures to color, some of us will be happy.
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by Anon_the_younger on Nov 22, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Is there a llama involved?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
lama?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Nov 22, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Andy Staples has his power rankings up.
He was giving us tons of love (if I remember correctly) at the beginning of the season, but it’s starting to disappear. Has us at #19 this week, up from #20 last week… oddly, after our A&M win we dropped from #19 to #20, and apparently beating Texas was worth a whole spot to him since he raised us back to where we were 3 games ago.
I just don’t see his logic in how he’s been dealing with the Cats the last few weeks, and I really can’t see how he has some of the teams ahead of us that he does (Clemson, South Carolina, TCU).
I’m firmly convinced the national media does not take SOS into account nearly as often as they should when looking at the big picture, and the BIGXII continues to be underrated by nearly every journalist covering college football.
Either way, beat ISU and good things will happen!
maybe this legitimizes what that's worth, maybe it doesn't but...
who in the hell is Andy Staples?
"Nor yet in Dell?"
For the general consensus around here
All credit given to the folks over at WRNL, but they hit the nail on the head:
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Nov 22, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Those guys at Wide Right Natty Lite are frickin good
and, oh by the way, “Boomer Sooner” sucks!
oh hail the Purple and White
I'm going to make millions on my Boomer Sooner Audio Filter.
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BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Nov 22, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'll buy 3!
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I love that site! They're as funny as BOTC used to be
Before BC disappeared and Pan died. At least I think that’s what happened.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Didn't they both die?
I’m pretty sure I wrote a check to their memorial fund…here it is: The Death of Free Time Memeorial Fund.
/musthavehadkids
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Yet another reason to fill the Bill one last time for the Seniors
Fan Appreciation Day with $4 combo of 32oz drink and hotdog…What?!?!?! Actually I have no idea if that’s a good deal or not, since I never buy concessions food.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Um... yeah, that is a GREAT deal.
They usually charge $5 for a normal sized bottled WATER!
Or I’m mis-remembering. Still, that is a good deal.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 22, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
I think water just went up to $3 or $3.50
it was $2 for the longest time…obviously pop wasn’t, but still I could justify buying a bottle of water if I forgot to bring one in, not anymore. I just come prepared.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Does anyone know what the Pac 12's second
tie in bowl is, after their auto bid to the Rose?
Is it the Alomo?
Because I want no part of Oregon, should it lose in the Pac championship game, if Oregon is in the frickin Alamo Bowl.
Gaaaawd, I wish I hadn’t thought of this scenario, I may not get to sleep for days, the thought is such a nightmare!
oh hail the Purple and White
Well, you may not be getting much sleep
according to wiki, Alamo IS the PAC #2 vs Big 12 #3.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 22, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
There is a lot to play out before worrying
South Carolina could lose to Clemson, Georgia could lose at GT, Houston could lose at Tulsa, Michigan could lose to Ohio State, OU could….nevermind, Wisconsin could lose to Penn State. Any of these should move us up in the coaches and thus the BCS. The computers should be set at long as we don’t lose to Iowa State. I know most are guessing we are Cotton bound, but until after this weekend of hopeful chaos we can’t be sure of anything.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
It is, but I think Oregon or Stanford have a great shot at getting into the Fiesta bowl
If Oregon loses the PAC championship game, they’d probably fall all the way down to the Alamo, though.
I really doubt that will happen. USC is the only decent team in the south division, and they aren’t playing.
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