Kicking the Tires: Texas Longhorns
by TB on Nov 18, 2011 6:50 PM CST
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PrintIt's that time of year again. No, it's not quite time to break out the turkey yet, although we're getting close. And no, it's still way too early for Christmas carols. So what is it time for?
The Chisholm Trail Rivalry, that's what.
K-State travels to Austin this weekend to face the team that has been its unlikeliest whipping boy over the history of the Big 12. Bill Snyder's powerhouse teams of the late 1990s got things rolling with big wins over Mack Brown's first two teams. After a brief hiatus at the beginning of the Vince Young era, Ron Prince (of all people) reasserted the Wildcats' upper hand with two consecutive victories. Snyder embarrassed the Longhorns in Manhattan last year to run K-State's Big 12 record against UT to 5-2.
This year's Texas team enters the game 6-3 after an ugly road loss to Missouri. Texas is much improved over last year, when it went 5-7 and missed a bowl game, and will undoubtedly put up a much tougher fight against K-State than we saw in Manhattan. Yet despite the decided talent advantage UT holds in this game, the Longhorns still haven't figured out how to put everything together. I take that back. They've put it together pretty well on defense. But that offense remains, at best, a work in progress.
Players to Watch
K-State
Rushing: John Hubert, 161 carries, 781 yards, 4.9 yards/carry, 2 TD, 78.1 yards/game
Passing: Collin Klein, 129-219-5, 1,504 yards, 6.9 yards/attempt, 10 TDs, 150.4 yards
Receiving: Chris Harper, 37 receptions, 509 yards, 4 TD, 50.9 yards/game
Defensive Line: Ray Kibble, 29 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 1.0 sacks
Linebackers: Arthur Brown, 78 tackles, 5.5 TFL, 2.0 sacks, 1 INT
Secondary: David Garrett, 65 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 0.5 sacks, 2 INT
Texas
Rushing: Malcolm Brown, 131 carries, 635 yards, 4.8 yards/carry, 5 TD, 90.7 yards/game
Passing: David Ash, 77-133-6, 887 yards, 6.7 yards/attempt, 3 TD, 98.6 yards/game
Receiving: Mike Davis, 33 receptions, 521 yards, 15.8 yards/reception, 1 TD, 57.9 yards/game
Defensive Line: Jackson Jeffcoat, 49 tackles, 12 TFL, 4.0 sacks
Linebackers: Emmanuel Acho, 87 tackles, 15 TFL, 2.0 sacks
Secondary: Kenny Vaccaro, 63 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 INT
At last! A team with offensive numbers as pedestrian as K-State's! Actually, in some ways much more pedestrian. David Ash actually has a worse yards-per-attempt average than does Collin Klein. And he throws twice as many interceptions as he does touchdowns, although he doesn't throw a whole lot of either. Still, given Nigel Malone's play on defense this year, and the fact that David Garrett will be covering the other half of the field, I like our chances to pick off a couple passes.
Defensive, as you'll see even more soon, Texas is building a monster, if it isn't one already. Acho is a beast who, unlike Frank Alexander, isn't prone to kicking puppies (and still not being flagged). With athletes like Acho and Jeffcoat, among others in the front seven, K-State is going to have a hard time finding running lanes and time for Klein to throw.
Team Statistics (from CFBStats.com)
Rushing Offense
K-State: 208.5 yards/game, 22nd nationally
Texas: 227.4 yards/game, 15th
Passing Offense
K-State: 155.6 yards/game, 109th
Texas: 188.6 yards/game, 93rd
Total Offense
K-State: 364.1 yards/game, 86th
Texas: 416 yards/game, 44th
Rushing Defense
K-State: 117.2 yards/game, 26th
Texas: 101.2 yards/game, 10th
Pass Efficiency Defense
K-State: 88th
Texas: 11th
Total Defense
K-State: 410.7 yards/game, 81st
Texas: 313.8 yards/game, 14th
Fortunately, Texas isn't built to take advantage of K-State's defensive weakness. The Longhorns are miserable throwing the ball on the season. It's possible that this game will be a lot like the regulation portion of last week's game against Texas A&M, only with a lot of running from UT rather than that newfangled passing the Aggies were doing.
Overall, these teams figure to be a very close match. A game like this will very likely come down to either a scheme advantage or the hidden-yards stats. Let's take a look at that matchup.
Turnover Margin
K-State: +9, 10th nationally
Texas: +/- 0, 62nd
Penalties
K-State: 39.7 yards/game, 19th
Texas: 51.3 yards/game, 64th
Third-Down Conversions
K-State: 49.05 percent, 29th
Texas: 45.52 percent, 33rd
Red-Zone Conversions
K-State: 86.5 percent, 33rd
Texas: 75.6 percent, 99th
Time of Possession
K-State: 35.01, 1st
Texas: 34:08, 5th
Turnover margin and red-zone conversions tell the tale here. Texas is treading water on the season despite its defense forcing almost two turnovers per game, while K-State forced a turnover more than twice as often as it commits one. If K-State can force a couple turnovers in this one, I feel pretty good about our chances.
Texas also is not the most efficient team in the red zone, and if K-State does anything consistently well on defense, it's stop teams in the red zone. An unexplosive offense, against a K-State defense that is solid against the run, and that isn't particularly good even when it does get to the end zone gives K-State a decent chance even if it can't force turnovers.
This is the game K-State needs if it wants to clinch a Cotton Bowl appearance. It would give K-State head-to-head wins over its primary competition for the game and at least a nine-win season. But winning in Austin won't be a slam dunk, even if Texas isn't exactly what it was five years ago. Still, I think K-State has enough to get this done. The Wildcats get out of Austin with a 22-17 win.
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Today one of my friends told me that his dad saw something that said both Klein and Brown would be out
needless to say I promptly went into the feedle
I think it's a scam...see wabash station threadlines
One said he heard on Snyder’s radio show that it was the case…I listened to the radio show and there was no mention about it. Also I figure there would have been more legit news about it by now, and there’s not. I asked myself if I was forced to bet on it, I’d bet they both play.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
wabash station is GPC.com's forum
Obviously I can’t read the inside of the topics, since I’m not a subscriber.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
I would almost bet that both play plenty in Austin.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
On the likelihood of playing in the Cotton Bowl
It’s Texas’ bid to lose: further reported
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Hey! OSU/ISU may be competitive,
for now…
but at this point I concede it is best for OSU to win out.
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Yes, and the upset this weekend that would be good for us
would be for Baylor to beat Sooner. Then we might have a shot at the Fiesta. But I only want the Fiesta if we could play the Nubs. If not, I’d rather get Cotton and play an SEC team (and beat them). It’s complicated.
Just beat Texas!
GO CATS!
oh hail the Purple and White
Let's beat Texas first before getting ahead of ourselves
But otherwise I feel you here, Furnace
yea I'm just looking at 9-2 right now.
That exceeds my 8-4 expectations, that’s what I want. exceeded expectations
"Nor yet in Dell?"
And ISU is playing real, real tough
Weeden with a huge pick at the Iowa State 40. Around 13 minutes left. OSU better wake up ’cause this is for real.
I am TIRED of hearing the difference between stands and confirmed
blah
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
That is funny that they constantly harp on it all of a sudden this season
Instant replay isn’t that new.
There is a Des Moines station that streams their games for free I believe.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I thought
Though it was very, very hard to root against Oklahoma State after today’s events. But you can’t say enough about how Iowa State played in that 2nd half. Especially on defense.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
This^
ISU played with tons and tons of heart. Their crowd was fantastic. Okie State, on the other hand, showed all the composure of a 4 year-old whose lollipop was taken from them. Weeden was awful in the 4th quarter, the defense non-existent, the penalties they accrued insane, and the way they took cheap shots all over the place deserving of an Epic Loss.
well, they couldn't really extend the drive for another 4 1/2 minutes
and they only tied the game.
oh hail the Purple and White
This just got very interesting
I like upsets, but wan to OSU over Bama in the championship
Well, the IaState game on Dec. 3rd scares me
Okie State has a flat tire all night. IaState should actually be ahead.
oh hail the Purple and White
Not so much to me
Iowa St is an average team that somehow has magic in Ames. We will beat them. OSU is laying an egg on offense.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
ISU does not do well in follow up games to big wins.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
And they needed just one more for bowl eligibility
and got it on Friday night.
Wow ISU game looks a little tougher than expected
granted, this is like ISU’s “superbowl” so they are pretty jacked up
WTH...
Is going on here? Just turned on the game.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
Rhodes teams play on such jacked up emotion
that when they get another team on a flat night, like Okie is tonight, they look pretty good.
oh hail the Purple and White
yea don't be that concerned
Our power run game is a different animal than this offense
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
I thought it was good
but who knows?
oh hail the Purple and White
Well, crap - you'd think b/12 refs would do
what they need to get a b/12 game into the nat title game.
oh hail the Purple and White
Does ISU not have an SB Nation page anymore?
Thought they did
They do...
http://www.widerightnattylite.com/
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
btw, is there a better overtime format than college football??
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
No - I like it
oh hail the Purple and White
NFL OT sucks.
The coin toss almost determines the winner.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
I am not saying that NFL rules rock.
I think they are dumb and college is much better. My only point is that the argument that college is good because it comes down to the last play makes no sense.
College is good because it guarantees both teams a possession
but at least the NFL version allows for all aspects of the kicking game to be included and that the team getting the kickoff has to drive the length of the field. The college version leans towards teams with great red-zone offenses. Both versions have strengths and weaknesses. I guess I’d go with college if I had a choice.
Cowboy is crappin his pants
damn!
oh hail the Purple and White
nuts!
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
And the field gets rushed in...
3, 2…
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
first win over a #2 ranked team
did I see 1-18 all-time?
http://igotitgames.com
Okie State completes the derp!
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
I feel real bad for the folks in Stillwater
I don’t think Cowboy loses but for the terrible tradgedy today. sucks. and I don’t mean to take anything away from Cyclone.
oh hail the Purple and White
This sucks for KSU
unless Cowboy loses out and we win out.
oh hail the Purple and White
Our only concern is to keep winning.
We have no control over the rest.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
I never had a problem with Iowa State
except, naturally, when they play K-State. But last night I had to go against my own nature and root for Okie State. I was happy for ISU and their fans, but still think that was the worst outcome possible for KSU’s bowl dreams – barring the Cats losing one or both of their final two games, of course.
My thinking was that if ISU could beat OU next week,
then things should pretty much come out as a wash for KSU’s bowl aspirations.
Why did they not review OSU's FG?
That was very, very, close.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
I'm not sure that any camera angle could properly overturn an over the pylon call.
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
Wonder if Big 12 says oops first part of next week.
Looked just good to me.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
well, that was not a BCS call
because it was close enough that if it was called good, no one could howl too much.
oh hail the Purple and White
I agree no good camera angle
The angle on TV was a few feet behind the pylon, and not lined up with the kick. It looked like it went over the pylon on TV but the ref was directly underneath.
The refs blew the one in Syracuse earlier this year and that was not even this close.
It happens.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
only if OU makes the championship game
but this could screw us out of the Cotton, too.
oh hail the Purple and White
If we win out and OSU loses to OU...
our BCS ranking should be higher than theirs.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
But would head-to-head enter into that?
For the Cotton Bowl, I mean.
Just goes to show how difficult it is to go undefeated.
And also, not to play on Friday nights.
To be fair...they came out flat.
And after the tragedy, who can blame them?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats ISU ... great game.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 PM CST reply actions
yes, Cyclone played inspired
oh hail the Purple and White
So 9 of the 10 BIG XII teams can become bowl eligible?
that’s pretty amazing
by powercat12 on Nov 18, 2011 11:02 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Okie State's inability to run the ball effectively comes back to bite them.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
So Houston goes to the MNC.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
It would be great if SMU wins tommarrow
by EMAW 4 Ever on Nov 18, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to hear a happy Craig James.
And the follow up discussion of why SMU should be in the Big 12…(vomit).
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Stop running the scenarios...
we just need to win out and sort it from there.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
and really
winning out will put us at 10-2…frankly, I will be happy with anywhere we go at that point. Will I play the “what if” game should we go somewhere we think is beneath our body of work? Probably. But, the 10-2 regular season is pretty freaking sweet by itself.
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 18, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer tables and plates but go ahead.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Nov 18, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't been to either
Jerry World, or the AlamoDome. I would be happy experiencing either for the first time.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 18, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Well,
we are experiencing what the Pac 10 did for years: round robin where teams beat each other up. 9 conference games (as opposed to 8 with divisions) makes it harder to have two really stand out teams.
oh hail the Purple and White
I would prefer a conference championship
but it’s proven that the conferences that didn’t have one went to more BCS type bowl games because they didn’t beat up on each other in the championship game (i.e. KSU A&M conference champ. game).
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
2003 - OU loses and makes the chapionship game
and NU made it to the Nat Title game without even making it to the conference championship game. Point is, with 9 conference games, there are a guaranteed 9 more losses to be distributed among the conference teams.
oh hail the Purple and White
Time to get back to 12 and a championship game.
This might be the game that puts everyone’s mind back on the right track.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking that also
Kinda solved some problems…and the more games the better in my opinion no matter what the implications toward championships are.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Do you think T Boone will demand his money back?
What? too soon?
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
On the brightside this pretty much locks snyder in as coach of the year
by EMAW 4 Ever on Nov 18, 2011 11:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Great point!
and I don’t know why people are pissed about this…if we take care of our business, we are probably still good for at least the Cotton Bowl, and the Alamo would be above what most of us expected anyway. I’m happy for Paul Rhodes
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Agree
ISU would have been trying to become bowl eligible against us next week. I would have seen something like the OSU game happening to us next week when we are playing for a good bowl bid. I was rooting ISU all the way. haha My wife called the missed field goal.
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
I was laughing at Weeden's 50 year old face when they missed it
seriously he is WAY to old to be in college
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
I was thinking about going out next year
I just turned 30 and didn’t go to college. Took the military route instead.
’WHO’S WITH ME?’
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
There is a limit to your eligibility age wise.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm 32 but no one in their right mind would think I was as old as Weeden
He should’ve played baseball. I hate that the rules allow him to come back.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
The OSU plane that went down was made in 1964
Why the heck were they flying in that hunk a junk with Pickens money lying around?
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
Yeah colleges need to start getting serious about these flights.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Especially teams like OSU and Marshall.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They are for team flights
But they allow Coaches discretion in flights on their own for recruiting purposes. Still that will definitely change.
Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!
WTF? seriously that is crap
They can spend millions on facilities but not a couple hundred thousand on a plane to save lives?
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
Planes aren't cars.
Every 12000 hours the plane has to undergo a complete overhaul and are maintained all the fricking time.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
Even worse, the pilot was 82 yrs old.
Sorry – that is too old. He was volunteering his service and the plane to the school.
oh hail the Purple and White
Think this has anything to do
with the rule that a charter jet can’t be used?
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
or
is that just for recruiting trips.
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
Just recruiting trips that a recruit is on
Its not a safety issue, its a fair play issue. The Texases of the world could roll out a G6 while while the ISUs are lucky to have a Piper.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
It hurt K-State though
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Nov 19, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
most definitely.
With our aviation school we have some kick ass jets. We never used any of the single engine planes.
It hurt when we had to bring kids into KC. Now, you really can’t complain.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Fight till Hell freezes over and then fight them on the ice.
by BlackCats on Nov 19, 2011 12:21 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Gary Pinkel:
Discuss.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Hilarious
but you are in the comfort of your home. Just dumb for anyone to have too many and get behind the wheel. It’s not like someone wouldn’t have driven him home. Probably would have gotten a taxi for free! I do that every New Year’s Eve. My town has a free Taxi service on NYE but you have to wait a while…who cares though… more drinks!
If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always gotten.
OSU just did to OU what OU did to us
Huge game coming up and took all the hype out of it by losing to a 4 TD underdog.
so
does that mean we can expect OSU to rout OU?
First to identify a TEWWT (so what if it was unintentional)
by Jeremy Sharp on Nov 19, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
BCS madness
Things are lining up poorly for the B12 now. The 3 main candidates to take on LSU are OU, Alabama, and Oregon. I’m thinking Oregon is the most likely, and if that happens I don’t see any way we get more than 1 BCS team in. That would drop us down to the Alamo. If OU or Alabama somehow gets into the title game, it’d be different, and we’d still be on track for the Cotton.
Not only is the Alamo Bowl a good bowl, it's in a good destination.
Not that I’ll be able to go, but a visit to the metroplex does not appeal to me.
2002 Holiday Bowl = Best Bowltrip Ever
(from my limited experiences)
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 19, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
My wife has friends about 1 hour from San Antonio (in Shiner!) so we already have our tickets reserved to that game
My preferred destination is San Antonio, which I’ve never been to, and this would be a perfect trip.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
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