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"That's what's left."

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fanshot blocking super8 ...

/could not resist
//could not care less about MU leaving at this point …. either stay or stay not already.
///didIdothatrightguys?

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Just noticed that.

Super8 kinda buried the lead, though, at least in my opinion.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

you forgot to exclude spaces on your first two

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll always be a rebel

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

/noobdoesn'tknowanybetter

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"That's what's left"

is only a true statment if your intention has always been to join a different conference.

As it applies to the future of Mizzou, this is a blatant lie.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

But they HAVE been trying to leave for like the last 20 years...

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mizzou, lusting after the Big10 since 1993.

/settlingForTheSECsince2011

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

New t-shirt design!

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its the sheer arrogance of that statement that is astounding

That’s what’s left”? The SEC, easily the best football conference (and a very, very good baseball conference to boot), offers you an invite and the response is “That’s what’s left”? Someone at Mizzou needs to put a clamp down on these boosters, officials, curators and that idiot governor.

No wonder Mizzou despises Texas – they have so much in common.

But this kind of self-inflated ego is nothing new. For those of us who were around in 1993-94 when the Big-12 was being formed, we are well-versed. I was a student at K-State at the time and remember the comments by Mizzou’s leadership about how the Big-10 was this quasi-celestial conference (think Ivy League – but much, much more prestigious!!!) and that they, Mizzou, would be a natural fit because of the sheer power of their own academics. Then flash forward to last year when Jay Nixon made his asinine comments, insulting the scholastic capabilities of Big-12 schools – as if it was at that font of higher learning in Columbia where the scientific method was developed.

Note to Mizzou: You are a fine school, with good athletics and much to be proud of; you should feel inferior to no one, much like you should not feel superior to everyone. But despite your good qualities you were lucky to have been given a lifeline to the nation’s premier football conference. Be grateful for your blessings, exit quietly and with class.

in other words: don’t be Nebraska.

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's really funny is,

they don’t HAVE an invite from the SEC at present.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

Which is also why thier claims of “loyalty” and “trust” are also wearing very thin with me.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the stuff that irks me
The agreement is subject to approval by university governing boards — a step Missouri curators don’t want to take until the school is able to “fully explore options for conference affiliation … which best serve the interests of the University of Missouri,” board chairman Warren Erdman told The Associated Press.

So, If they ask SEC and SEC says no, then Mizzou will agree to grant rights to the conference. But granting rights to conference gives them a good reason not to leave.

This in my mind is just as bad as OU complaining about needing stability when them making the statement about looking to the PAC is what caused a large part of the instability they are looking to get away from.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't mention that to a Mizzou fan.

It will get ugly.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

or ask a un-l fan why the Big12 is unstable....

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because they couldn't beat Texas

That’s an easy one Anon. ;)

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I know

very similar to how Nub fans got offended when you mentioned something to them about…well, just about anything realting to them that doesn’t agree with their view.

Or aTm fans

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously,

this is one of the best times of the year for college athletics.

Thanks to aTm, OU and MU for providing reason(s) to not talk about awesome plays, which team is better and the players that are demonstrating greatness on the field (or on the volleyball court).

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Or the woman's soccer pitch I guess

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Oct 5, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing on my mind

How long will reporters be including the “after losing Colorado (PAC12) and Nebraska (B1G) last season” bit in these articles. So I guess next year, it will be “after losing CU (PAC12) and UNL (B1G) 2 years ago, and aTm (SEC) last year”.

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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 5, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

More worrisome for me is this little snippet
The source said that Tulane would become a viable option for the Big 12 if it were to grab four schools to beef up the membership to 12, in a situation where BYU decides it doesn’t want to leave its football independence or its new tie to the WCC in all other sports.

Tulane?

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 5, 2011 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

The day Tulane joins the Big 12

Is the day I say fuck it and chug a liter of Everclear

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Oct 5, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seems Tulane is one of a number of schools that have contacted the Big 12.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Tulane leave the SEC

Because they didn’t really believe in putting sports over academics? Now they want back in to big time college sports?

Bobby Hill: What's a meat examination team?
Hank Hill: It's like a debate team, only instead of doing something useless you get to grade the cut and quality of meat!

by MeatGeek on Oct 5, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was partially the reason

but another part was that they didn’t feel they could keep up with the Alabama’s and LSU’s which were stocking players (back when there were no scholarship limits) and for whom finances were less a problem than a small private school. This was largely the same reason Georgia Tech exited the SEC as well in the 1960s.
I actually have no problem with an invite to Tulane – so long as they have made a firm pledge to upgrade their sports and have concrete plans for doing so. They expand our footprint, get us into New Orleans, and open up new recruiting territory. On the other hand, I completely understand others qualms about bringing them in.

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tulane

could be a good addition. it is a new market for the big 12 with an AAU school, a national name, and a long presence in a large metropolitan area.

the team suck yes but weak teams get stronger by playing good teams (which the big 12 has plenty of) and by investing more money in athletic (which being a part of an AQ conference will provide, and since Tulane is already strong in academic, it can afford to invest more in athletics)

i think we should give Tulane serious consideration.

by fracas on Oct 5, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Furnace says Louisville is a better party town than New Orleans!

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

haven't partied in Louisville

but the good times do roll in the Big Easy

by fracas on Oct 5, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm too old for New Orleans

and it has a dark underbelly that, well, scares even a veteran of decadence like me. Probably the voodoo influence.
Does the old Sugar Bowl still stand. Is that where the tulips would play their games?
Louisville is a better cultural fit for the mid-west. But hell, bring em both on, and if we really want a party town, bring in the U. And UNLV.
I might as well go down swingin’ !

oh hail the Purple and White

by Furnace76 on Oct 5, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tulane plays at

the LouisianaMercedes-Benz Superdome.

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a place where high-end car auctions would take place.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mecum Auction at Mercedes-Benz Superdome

Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

New Orleans is a most excellent town

If they are brought into the Big-12 I will definitely be going to every K-State road football game to the Big Easy. Now all we need to do is add Memphis and UNLV…

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOT MEMPHIS

Memphis is a shithole. There is literally nothing worth doing there, not even going to Graceland (which is just a money-grubbing tourist pit now).

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Mississippi River is big.

So there’s that.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, Beale Street is a blast

Memphis is rough, no doubt, but a fun town.

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

My only experience of Memphis,

is driving through there during rush hour a few times. In other words, I hate the damn place!

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not me.

I’d go to the basketball game though. Closer to Fat Tuesday.

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.

by BlackCats on Oct 6, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

THIS JUST IN

although it is from Chip Brown, and I don’t have a link because I’m getting it from an unlinked C&P:

Texas has agreed, after talking with ESPN, to kill all high school-related content on the LHN.

If Mizzou leaves now, they have nothing to point at.

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

This better be true.

And Mizzou better stay, those bastards.

Would you like some Freys with that?

by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 5, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's entirely possible

that what we’re going to see as a result of this is a lot of Southland Conference and Lone Star Conference and American Southwest Conference content making its way onto the network.

At which point Texas can turn around and say “Hey, we’re helping out the LITTLE GUYS here, and y’all are upset over that?”

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

FCS, etc.,... games for TLN

that would help build a national following ….

especially if they showed the entire battle of the bands for the schools that have those.

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

They'll make something up.

They’re basically all-in on this now.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just read that

from my understanding the agreement to kill all high school-related content was a quid pro quo for the 6-year granting of rights rather than 13 years. Personally, I’d rather get the 13-year granting of rights from Texas – which pretty much ensures the long-term viability of the Big-12 even in the face of “super-conference-palooza” – and let UT struggle with dealing with the NCAA on the high school stuff. Texas can only sign so many recruits and those they do they were likely to get with or without high school highlights being shown on TLN.

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no struggle with the NCAA on the high school stuff

because the NCAA already approved the highlight package thing. Just no actual games.

The six-year thing is a red herring. They’re only doing that as an out in the event the conference gets lowballed on the Tier 1 rights in five years; the flip side of that is that any first-tier offer for big bucks is going to require an extension of the rights grant as a pre-condition, to prevent this very mess from happening again.

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by jonfmorse on Oct 5, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, thanks for pointing that out

Somehow though, saying 13 years rather than 6 makes me feel all warm and secure inside…:)

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 5, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be

the “security gland” doing its thing.

(* Credit to Dave Ramsey for ‘security gland’ et al.)

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by VegasCat07 on Oct 6, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's too late now, even if Texas caves on everything

But hey, I’ve been wrong before about all this expansion stuff.

by smitty3268 on Oct 5, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tu-frackin-lane?

New Orleans is awesome but please put this Genie back in the bottle and never speak of it again.

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by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I never thought waking up today that...

Steve Jobs would be gone and Tulane would have an outside shot at an AQ conference and a seat in the Big XII. These truly are strange times.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

May you live in interesting times.

Bwahaha

When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.

by BlackCats on Oct 6, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

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