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Postgame Reaction: Baylor

K-State's defense held Baylor scoreless in the fourth quarter while scoring 10 points of its own to earn a thrilling victory over the Bears.

If I were going to assign grades to the offense, the defense, the special teams, or specific units like the defensive and offensive lines and such, I don't know that anybody would rate much higher than a B. Overall, it was not an especially pretty performance from K-State. But the Wildcats didn't make any spectacular mistakes, executed their game plan and didn't lose confidence when Baylor took a nine-point lead into the fourth quarter.

Hit the jump for some specific items in the game I enjoyed, some I didn't enjoy, what it all means and where we're going.

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What I liked...

...dominating the time of possession. K-State controlled the ball for more than 12 minutes in the first quarter, and there wasn't a single quarter in the game in which Baylor won the battle. K-State ran 17 more plays than did Baylor. In other words, K-State kept the ball away from Robert Griffin III and wore down the Baylor defense. It paid off as K-State scored 10 points in the final quarter on a backbreaking, five-minute 22-second touchdown drive in the fourth quarter to pull within two.

...winning the turnover battle. Baylor lost two fumbles, and of course we all know about Griffin's first interception of the season. Collin Klein tossed one horrible interception, but K-State protected the ball with its methodical game plan. Of course, if Klein keeps throwing flutterballs off his back foot, that could change, and he's lucky he didn't throw another interception or two in this game. But the reality is that he didn't, and that's what matters for this game.

...getting pressure on Griffin. K-State had five sacks on the day, with Arthur Brown and Meshak Williams leading the way. With a quarterback as fast as Griffin, that's a huge feather in the defense's cap. Speaking of feathers in the defense's cap...

...another stand by the defense late in the game. After giving up 421 yards to Baylor in the first 56:50 of the game, K-State's defense rose to the occasion and held Baylor without a first down on its final drive of the game.

...Pease in the Wildcat. More please. K-State ran four plays out of the Wildcat with Angelo Pease. Two of those were successful on Bill's scale of what counts as a successful play, and one went for a touchdown.

...stopping the Baylor rushing game. Even after subtracting out sack yardage, Baylor only rushed for 109 yards on 25 carries, or 4.4 yards per carry. The Bears had been averaging 241 yards per game before Saturday.

What I didn't like...

...a subpar passing game from Klein. Again, he doesn't have to be RGIII throwing the ball. But less than 50 percent and only 5.2 yards per attempt just isn't going to cut it. And Baylor was only 72nd in the country in pass efficiency defense coming into this game, so it's not like the Bears' secondary was an impenetrable blanket. Klein is continuing the concerning habit of staring down his primary receiver and not going through his progression when the primary option is covered. Of course, I don't think the game plan really helped Klein out with that, which is my next point.

...too much passing on first down, especially the first play of a possession. By my count from looking at my game notes, K-State called seven passing plays on the first play of a drive versus five rushing calls (I'm not counting the last drive where we killed the clock). Of course, some of those designed pass plays turned into rushing plays, but they did not work very well for whatever reason. Especially with this team, I think it's important to stay ahead of the sticks as much as possible, and against a poor rushing defense such as Baylor's, I think running the ball on first down, especially when it's the first play of a drive, is a much safer option.

According to the stats on the K-State site, K-State ran 21 times on first down, and passed only 10. However, by my count K-State called 15 passing plays on first downs. That makes it almost even between running and passing on first down. I guess they're going for balance, but my preference would be to run more, especially against Baylor.

...another game where Klein gets hit 20+ times. On Saturday, it was 25 rushing attempts, including sacks. Granted, he ran out of bounds on at least a couple of those rushing attempts, but he's still getting hit an awful lot. John Hubert is making some important plays, but in an ideal world he just isn't an every-down back.

...the call on that lateral play. Holy Lord that was just terrible. And for Griffin's occasional complaints about getting hit by K-State, Klein absorbed the dirtiest hit on the day when Baylor's Ahmad Dixon hit him square in the facemask with the crown of his helmet when Hubert whiffed on the blitz pickup. I'm amazed Klein got up, because that had to hurt like hell.

What it means and where we're going...

Beating Baylor puts K-State ahead of where most non-K-State fans predicted the Cats would be at this point in the season. The performance also validated K-State's defense as a solid, competent unit that can hold its own against elite offenses, at least. It makes bowl eligibility more likely, too.

Next week brings a visit from the Missouri Tigers. Mizzou will be coming off a bye week, which always concerns me. I know we have the Scheme Doctor in Manhattan, but give any decent coach two weeks to prepare and most will come up with a solid game plan. I'll have more in Kicking the Tires later this week, but suffice to say that beating Missouri will be at least as big of a test as beating Baylor.

Previous Opponent Roundup

Eastern Kentucky: The Colonels had a bye week and are still 1-3.

Kent State: The Golden Flashes traveled to Athens, Ohio, and returned with a 17-10 loss to the Bobcats. That offense is going to challenge records for least points scored in a season at this rate.

Miami: The Hurricanes fell behind early, but handled Bethune-Cookman relatively easily, 45-14. It should be noted, however, that 21 of those points were scored in the fourth quarter.

Big 12 Roundup

Arkansas 42, Texas A&M 38

HAHA

Texas Tech 45, KU 34

Despite a 20-0 first-quarter lead, KU's players suddenly remembered that they were KU and not the Houston Oilers, despite the love-ya blue uniforms they were wearing. The Jayhawks put together a relatively competent game against a suspect Tech defense, including 239 rushing yards. But Jordan Webb threw three interceptions and KU's defense gave up more than 500 yards on the day. Next week, KU will find out what it would be like to be in the path of a Category 4 hurricane when it travels to Stillwater to play Oklahoma State, while Texas Tech will welcome Texas A&M -- rudely, no doubt -- to Lubbock for the two schools' final showdown as conference mates.

Texas 37, Iowa State 14

I realize I've already said this, but this game wasn't nearly as close as the score may indicate. Texas led 34-0 at halftime and merely cruised through the second half, happy to get out of Ames as healthy as possible before next week's big game. Both Case McCoy and David Ash posted identical passing numbers (7-12-0), and Texas put up 400 total yards in about two quarters of actually giving a damn. Texas allowed 26 first downs and 380 yards to the Cyclones, but again, they really called things off after halftime and were happy to just make sure ISU didn't break any big plays. Next weekend, the Longhorns will meet Oklahoma in Dallas for the Red River Shootout, while Iowa State will travel to Waco to face Baylor.

Oklahoma 62, Ball State 6

The Sooners got one final tuneup before the matchup of undefeateds at the Texas State Fair.

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Nice post

I couldn’t believe that hit didn’t draw a foul.

by jboot1 on Oct 4, 2011 11:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I was stunned when I saw it

It was so blatant, I couldn’t believe the referee missed it. But then again, he didn’t realize that Wright’s “pass” went five yards backward, so maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised.

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by TB on Oct 4, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worst. Refs. Ever.

Seriously. And it wasn’t even just those plays. I can’t count the number of spots that were just blatantly wrong. I wish I could phone it in as much as those guys at my job and still get paid.

by BracketCat on Oct 5, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

what is funny

un-l says the refs were biased against them last year, it could have been this crew at all of their games. Never say conspiracy when incompetence explains it.

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is no way he should have missed it.

You could hear the “pop” of the contact (from where I was standing in the student section). I, and everyone knowledgeable around me, was wondering why the flag didnt come in, and bitched about it as loud as I could for a solid 30 seconds

by jtarkman on Oct 5, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I somehow found myself in a garage on Jarvis watching the end of the game and eating s'mores with strangers.

Magnificent.

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by U-God on Oct 5, 2011 12:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Methzoo is definitely going to be a test

I’m hoping HCBS does an extra special game plan for this game …

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 6:59 AM CDT reply actions  

How about all the no-holds called?

And how dirty was Baylor? 8 penalties for 103 yards (!!!), that’s insane. Art Briles is a whiny bitch.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Oct 5, 2011 7:24 AM CDT reply actions  

More Pease Please
…Pease in the Wildcat. More please. K-State ran four plays out of the Wildcat with Angelo Pease. Two of those were successful on Bill’s scale of what counts as a successful play, and one went for a touchdown.

He looked good. I want to see him with more touches.

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by mystman995 on Oct 5, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I would like to see that split with Pease as the 60.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you are going for split Pease, please?

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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 5, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on KSB...really?

Don’t say you are “warming up to the guy” one day and then call for him to sit more than play.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

I can be both “warming up” to him, and also think Pease is a better option than he is. There’s nothing incongruous about that at all.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Hubert is better than we thought after the EKU game (that can be said about the whole O of course), but I think Pease is more appealing as the 20 carry a game guy than Hubert.

"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain

by Sean T on Oct 5, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's put it another way...

hey kid I think you are doing pretty well, giving it all, gaining over 6 yds a run on average and now that I think I might have been wrong about you and have belief…go sit on the bench. Seems hypocritical to me. And what evidence suggests Pease is more appealing as a go to back? 4 snaps from the Wildcat? He did play in earlier games and I think Hubert was proven a bit more effective. Why you want to rain on this kids parade all day long and twice on Saturday is just bizarre. Even when he runs for 160+ we still want him to go sit the bench. Baffling really.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pease was hurt one game, and not used much in the other two.

And can you really not see that it’s possible to be both warming up to Hubert, and also believe that Pease is a better option, because of some raw skills he seems to have that Hubert doesn’t possess? I like Hubert, but I just think that Pease is a more explosive option, which is important to have as a balance to CK.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

So was Brown but you rode that horse for weeks too.

Why can’t you just be happy with the kid? It seems you find more ways to piss in his Hubert’s Cheerios than to say wow this kid is turning out to be a gem in the rough.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's turning out to be a serviceable back.

And Bryce Brown’s situation is being discussed elsewhere. This is about Pease and Hubert, and nothing else. And it’s not about pissing in “Hubert’s Cheerios”, it’s about discussing which back should probably get 6 of 10 carries by RBs each game. I think that Pease should get a few more carries per game than Hubert, and you clearly disagree. Let’s keep it about that discussion, and not those other things.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

No we have a pattern developing.

I tried to give up but the young lad deserves someone to champion his cause lest he read BOTC and think no one cares for his hard work. Especially if that work should equate to a 6 yd average and a 160+ yard game because he just doesn’t run fast enough.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even know what this means.

You’re really concerned that a college athlete is going to read an internet post from some guy who thinks his teammate should get approximately 4-5 more carries a game, and suddenly get discouraged?

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And how is preferring Pease as the "60" in a 60/40 split, "bizarre" in any way?

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he has proven himself. Why do you keep reaching for the RB de jour?

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

One game is not proof positive.

And Pease is not the RB du jour, he’s a member of our team, who I happen to believe offers a bit more than Hubert does.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will we ask for Rose next?

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you doing this?

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

et tu KSB.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you even talking about?

I made a simple football point about my preference for Pease getting a few more carries per game than Hubert, and you turned it into a thing.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is not a simple point...it is a pattern.

First it was we need BB…go sit down Hubert. Now its Pease is better…go sit down Hubert. In another post you said you were warming up to him. Yet your continuing mantra is to have the kid spend more time on the sidelines. Even when statistics prove otherwise. Even when the kid has proven himself to the coaching staff. Pease out of the Wildcat is a great wrinkle but one 15 yd TD is not enough evidence that kid’s hard work should land him on the sidelines.

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 5, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give up.

This isn’t some personal vendetta against Hubert on my part. But you are, of course, free to believe that if you want. I’m not calling for Hubert to be benched, but you’re free to believe that I am if you want. You prefer Hubert get more carries than Pease. I see it differently. I’m not accusing you of having some vendetta against Pease, and I’d like it if you’d do me the same courtesy with regards to Hubert.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 5, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too and fair enough.

But could you throw the kid an accolade or two?

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi

by Catbacker98 on Oct 6, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I already have.

I like him, and think he does good work with the skill set he’s been given. I’ve stated that over and over in the last week or so.

"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*

by K.S.B. on Oct 6, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

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