BLOGPOLL TOP 25: RussellMania and Furk Clemson
Other than our own "upset" of Baylor, the two most earth-shaking things to happen in the college football universe this week were Wisconsin's demolition of Nebraska and Clemson's stunning victory in the land of Beamerball.
As you'll see after the jump, not only did those events add fuel to an ascendant Heisman campaign and a beloved EDSBS meme, but they also set off a chain reaction that left my SB Nation BlogPoll ballot nearly unrecognizable.
With the beginning of conference play finally giving us some concrete evidence as to where teams stand vis a vis each other, I was wholly unafraid to shake things up dramatically. Brace yourself for some fairly radical changes.
Ballot - Week 6
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 2 | Alabama Crimson Tide | 1 |
| 3 | Oklahoma Sooners | -1 |
| 4 | Wisconsin Badgers | 1 |
| 5 | Clemson Tigers | 10 |
| 6 | Oklahoma St. Cowboys | -- |
| 7 | Boise St. Broncos | -3 |
| 8 | Oregon Ducks | -- |
| 9 | Stanford Cardinal | -2 |
| 10 | Arkansas Razorbacks | 9 |
| 11 | Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets | 6 |
| 12 | West Virginia Mountaineers | 8 |
| 13 | Illinois Fighting Illini | 11 |
| 14 | Florida Gators | -2 |
| 15 | Kansas St. Wildcats | 7 |
| 16 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | -3 |
| 17 | Texas Longhorns | 1 |
| 18 | Auburn Tigers | -- |
| 19 | Michigan Wolverines | -- |
| 20 | Virginia Tech Hokies | -9 |
| 21 | Baylor Bears | -7 |
| 22 | South Carolina Gamecocks | -13 |
| 23 | Arizona St. Sun Devils | 2 |
| 24 | Houston Cougars | -- |
| 25 | Texas Tech Red Raiders | -- |
| Dropouts: Texas A&M Aggies, South Florida Bulls, TCU Horned Frogs, Florida St. Seminoles | ||
SB Nation BlogPoll College Football Top 25 Rankings "
Odds are something in the above list made you shake your head, but bear with me. There is method to my madness.
The Alabama-Oklahoma swap should come as a surprise to no one. I almost moved Wisconsin over Oklahoma, too, but that seemed premature. Let's see how the Sooners fare in the Red River Shootout Rivalry first.
OK, Clemson. I know what you're thinking. But did you know Clemson is one of only three teams with wins over three teams that were ranked at the time they played? (The other two are LSU and Alabama. Pretty good company.)
Furthermore, unlike the Tigers and Tide, Clemson's opponents are all still ranked (although Florida State is hanging on by a thread). Surely that's worth not holding their lack of preseason expectations against them, right?
Boise State suffers from lackluster performance by its quarterback against a mediocre team, while Stanford slips because the Cardinal just ain't beating anybody of substance while other top-10 teams are collecting highborn scalps.
Then it gets crazy. And not just regular crazy, but the Charlie Sheen meltdown variety.
Clearly, I had Baylor, South Carolina and Virginia Tech all overrated last week, although I don't think the Bears are as bad as "mainstream" voters seem now to do.
Nebraska didn't slip as far in my ballot as they did in the "real" polls because I was ahead of the curve in realizing how overrated the Huskers were. I already had them down in the teens two weeks ago.
Those declines opened a gaping void just outside the top 10, so someone has to be No. 11 — but who? As you can see, I elevated four teams who posted victories Saturday, but I'm not particularly sold on any of them to stay there.
The mainstream pollsters preferred to choose Georgia Tech, Michigan and Texas for those spots, but none of those three have beat anything close to a ranked team yet.
I buy Georgia Tech because they pass the eye test and my eyes don't lie, but the other two still have some things to prove before they approach the top 10.
In that context, and given their statistical standing and the caliber of wins they have logged, why shouldn't our Cats round out the top 15? The only reason they're lower in the polls is because they started the season outside them.
Florida State and Texas A&M dropped out because there are just too many good zero- and one-loss teams right now for me to include two-loss teams. I almost dropped FSU out last week for that reason, and I now wish that I had.
I don't care that all the losses were to top-10 teams. You have to do more than beat Charleston Southern, Idaho and SMU to deserve inclusion among the 25 best teams in America. Go beat a BCS team and then get back with me.
In their place, I decided Week 6 was an decent time to throw a bone to the last two unranked and undefeated teams, Houston and Texas Tech, even though both have defenses that would make Ron Prince blush.
Given how shaky Texas Tech has looked in victory against a very weak schedule, one reasonably could expect them to fall out shortly, but I wouldn't have included them if I didn't think they were going to beat Texas A&M on Saturday.
For the first time all season, I was able to somewhat rank the one-loss teams in terms of who the loss was to, while also taking into account quality wins.
That ranking took preeminence over the sort of politics that drive conventional polling, so if something seems screwy to you, compare the resumes and you will begin to see the method to my madness.
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KSU #17? HOMER!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
that was my thought on that as well.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 4, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait--what?
The ACTUAL polls have KSU at 20/21, so 17 doesn’t seem too homerish to me.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
victory guilt
Ecokat, it's what's for dinner 10/8/11. Roll Tiger!
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 4, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just giving BC a hard time
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I'd prefer us unrated this week 8-)
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 4, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it
Though I wouldnt have dropped Baylor as far as you (or the “mainstream” guys) did. They lost by 1 on the road in conference against a rising team. They still look pretty good to me, and had Briles not decided to back off in the fourth to protect his lead, they probably would have won that game.
And I would have probably dropped Nub into the 20’s after the pasting they received…but maybe I’m just jaded :-)
nubs behind us
Is what’s important
by The Kauf on Oct 4, 2011 2:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't Texas also be ahead of NU?
Based on presumptive on field performance, of course.
Baylor also lost steam because of TCU.
As of right now, they have no quality wins. That hurts a bit.
Illinois?
I disagree with a lot of the movement this week, but for the most part I’m willing to give you a pass because you’ve undoubtedly watched more of most of these teams than I have and were at least able to provide cogent explanations for most of your choices.
That’s why I’m a little bit stunned that you moved Illinois up more than anyone else without any explanation. As far as I can tell, this is a mediocre team that happened to catch Arizona St. on a bad day, and has since just barely survived against Western Michigan and Northwestern. There’s no way they’re better than fellow undefeateds like KSU and Texas.
it’s just a shame they may not be exposed for a while, since their next 3 games are @Indiana, vs. Ohio St. and @Purdue. Ugh. I hate the B1G.
Illinois does seem grossly overrated.
I wouldn’t have a problem with a poll that entirely excluded them.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
by K.S.B. on Oct 4, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that might be the slotting I had the most concerns about.
But I’m not buying into Texas or Michigan yet, I can’t justifiably rank us that high, and I really wanted to punish Nebraska and Texas A&M. Who else was I going to put there?
I guess I could have swapped them with Florida…
Also, Vic Koenning power, baby! And I’m a huge Scheelhasse fan. He’s Griffin Lite. I guess I had a hard time getting their pasting of Baylor in the Texas Bowl out of my mind, and I absolutely believe they have a better defense than Michigan does.
Persa got hurt again...only way Illini came back.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Kstate above Nebraska.....beautiful!!!
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
by mjk7166 on Oct 4, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I personally think that Arkansas is overrated, both here and in the weekend polls.
Yes, they had a good break against A&M. Their offense, when it clicks, can put points on the board. We saw against Alabama that they have significant weaknesses on defense (hell, A&M plastered them to the wall the first half) and need to outscore teams to win. Although they will win 8 or 9 games, they will do that against a fairly weak schedule here on out. The way Auburn played this week, they and the Hogs should split 18/19.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
The next best thing to being undefeated is having only a road loss to LSU or Alabama.
Arkansas and Oregon are clearly, by resume at least, the two best one-loss teams right now.
No loss Stanford behind one loss Oregon?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Perception is not reality...are you an AP voter as well?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
You guys think I'm crazy? Check out what some of the other voters did.
K-State topped the standard deviation charts this week. College football doesn’t know what to make of us. I’m sure multiple ballots don’t even include us, but my old chum Allen Kenney at Blatant Homerism and our Cowboys friends at CRFF had us at NUMBER EIGHT. Wow.
CRFF, BTW, has four Big 12 teams in the top 10, Texas Tech at No. 14 and Iowa State at No. 25 despite the drubbing it just took. Among their most recent dropouts? Nubbie and Chocopockets. You gotta love the conference solidarity in that bad boy, even if it does make me cringe as a voter.
I now forgive CRFF for the abomination that was the "Conference Redraft" debacle.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*



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