K-State win over Oklahoma could propel Wildcats to BCS run
by TB on Oct 26, 2011 10:01 AM CDT
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PrintBefore the season, back when I thought it would take K-State the entire season to amass six wins, I postulated that K-State's best chance at an upset would be Oklahoma. Little did I know that K-State would actually be ranked higher than Oklahoma in BlogPoll, the BCS and the AP, and would be the one undefeated team in the game. Of course, that hasn't stopped Vegas from installing K-State as a two-touchdown underdog against the visiting Sooners, so a win in this game would still fulfill my prediction that this was K-State's best opportunity at an upset this season.
But what would it take for K-State to pull off the upset and move to 8-0 on the season? We all know K-State's formula for winning games. The Wildcats want to run the ball, win the time of possession battle, avoid turning the ball over while forcing a turnover or two by the opponent, and get a couple big plays on special teams. It also wouldn't hurt to jump out to an early lead, because Landry Jones doesn't seem to play so well from behind.
Does that mean K-State will be able to pull the upset over Oklahoma? The Sooners are good against the run and the pass, but are not an elite defense. If K-State can stay balanced, keep Oklahoma guessing and take advantage of the inevitable onslaught of blitzes it will see from a Brent Venables-coached team, then the Wildcats will be able to move the ball and score some points. Couple that with the angriest fans in America who always reserve a special anger for a group of coaches they still consider traitors, and Bill Snyder Family Stadium should be a madhouse by 2:30 p.m. on Saturday.
Perhaps the greatest advantage K-State has is not just the fact that Bill Snyder is its head coach, but that Bill Snyder knows the opposing coaching staff so well. Both Bob Stoops and Venables coached under Snyder at K-State, and Snyder is as familiar with them as he is any coach. Of course, that's a two-way street, as both of the aforementioned OU coaches are as familiar with Snyder as anyone, but I'm confident that Snyder will be ready for what OU tries to do.
As impressive as K-State's wins over Miami, Baylor, Missouri and Texas Tech have been this season, the Wildcats have yet to play a top-10 team like Oklahoma. Although last week's home loss to Texas Tech knocked the Sooners from their perch in the top three of everyone's rankings, this is still the best team K-State will have faced to date. A win validates all of K-State's work thus far, cementing the Wildcats as a legitimate BCS contender. Of course, it's only the first step in a late-season gauntlet that features road trips to Stillwater and Austin in the next month, as well as a visit to Manhattan from Texas A&M.
A win over the Sooners would be a big start, but as Snyder would be quick to remind you, it would only be the first step.
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Wild card is Mike Stoops
I have a feeling Mike is on the practice field trying to pound some toughness into that OU defense. He was always the firebrand of the Stoops, Stoop, Venables set.
oh hail the Purple and White
Wonder if he'll be at the game too.
Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!
Is that allowed by the NCAA?
Can a fired head coach become an assistant to another school mid-season? Seems there should be some sort of rule against such a thing.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
It isn't allowed.
And, apparently, Stoops, the younger was visiting his brother for some family time last week, before the Tech game. But no, he’s not allowed to provide any football instruction for OU’s team.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Are you sure?
I KNOW there are rules about how many “paid” assistants, and “paid” graduate assistants a program can have. I didn’t know there was a rule saying a fired coach who happens to be Bob Stoops little brother can’t show up and help a family member. But I could be wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. :) I’ll bet Mike is doing some film work, at least, rules be damned.
oh hail the Purple and White
Hey, it's Furnace!
People were wondering where you have been the past couple of days.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Drinking heavily!
oh hail the Purple and White
That had been suggested actually. lol
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
From that article I linked, it seems to be a pretty bright line rule.
I don’t know how they’d be able to keep him from doing film work, though, if B. Stoops wanted him to do it.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
common opponents stats
lack of formatting will make this ugly and the stats are from cfbstats.com
K-State Defense
rush pass plays total yds/pl
MU 112 214 66 326 4.9
@TXT 119 461 96 580 6.0
@KU 76 210 73 286 3.9
OU Defense
rush pass plays total yds/pl
MU 241 291 75 532 7.1
@KU 144 108 63 252 4.0
TXT 120 452 96 572 6.0
K-State Offense
rush pass plays total yds/pl
MU 174 112 70 286 4.1
@TXT 193 146 65 339 5.2
@KU 261 205 63 466 7.4
OU Offense
rush pass plays total yds/pl
MU 144 448 87 592 6.8
@KU 247 363 88 610 6.9
TXT 124 412 80 536 6.7
And all the numbers probably tell us nothing.
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
"And all the numbers probably tell us nothing."
Hilarious, and I would think absolutely true.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting how eerily similar our TT defensive stats are.
Rush Pass Plays Total yds/pl
OU 120 452 96 572 6.0
KSU 119 461 96 580 6.0
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The difference on offense is the key.
We were able to just flat run over TTU in that game, and rolled up over twice as many rushing yards as OU did against them.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
You sure about that?
K-State Offense
rush pass play total yds/pl
@TXT 193 146 65 339 5.2
OU Offense
rush pass plays total yds/pl
TXT 124 412 80 536 6.7
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Not twice as many, you're right.
I was looking at our KU stats. But we had about 60% more yards rushing than they did, and most of those came in the second half, when we seized control of the game and didn’t let it go.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I was getting the lines mixed up as well
when I looked at them first. Then I realized they were shown chronologically, instead of an “easy to compare” format.
The Tech game was reasonably close on both sides of the ball (according to these stats). OU passed more against Tech than we did, but that doesn’t surprise me in the least.
The difference in these two games is the hidden yardage and turnovers. (It HAS to be, right?)
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
what?
Then I realized they were shown chronologically, instead of an "easy to compare" format.
I’m testing reading comprehension.
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You heard him.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
I knew exactly what I meant. :)
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I left out a word.
Should have said "instead of being shown in an “easy to compare” format.
What I meant was that you showed the opponents in the order in which we (or OU) played them. It just so happened that MU was the first of the common opponents for each of us, so they were listed in row 1 for both teams. When doing a quick comparison, however, like KSB (and I) did, it was more natural for us to look at row 2 under KSU and then compare that to row 2 under OU (but these aren’t the same opponent).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Anon got it.
His defense was that he was testing our reading comprehension.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
oh. derp.
And actually, it totally makes sense how he listed them. I was just making the mistake in my brain when I was looking at the two charts.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
My advice to you
is start drinking, heavily.
I won’t mention that you need to pay attention to the questions on Friday 8-) .. even if they say they are not trying to trick you.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I know.
They stress that a lot. “These questions are not intended to trick you in any way” (except for the way we word them, they might trick you into thinking we are asking for something we are not asking for).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
my test strategy
answer the ones I know, then go back and answer the other questions.
I probably could have left at 3 hours morning and afternoon, but I was having fun going through my books looking for formulas on a couple of questions.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how I do it too
Read the question, if I don’t immediately know how to attack it I move on to the next one. I may come across something while working on another one that clues me in on how to answer the first one.
Just keep repeating this process.
I took it back in 2008 but didn’t prepare at all. I ended up leaving about 45 minutes early in each session. I’m probably going to use more of the alotted time this go’round because I do NOT want to have to take it again.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the main difference was
that we were able to control our deficit in the first half, through a big defensive play and a long return, and then utterly dominated them in the second half with the ground game. The turnovers played a huge role, but I think our ability to run it down their throats in the second half was the biggest key.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
True.
Tech started out at OU much the way they started out against us, but we were able to get “hidden touchdowns” to keep the game within 1 score at half-time.
OU, on the other hand, went into half-time with a 17 point deficit. A little bit harder to overcome.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Tech dominated us in the first half, but we kept it close with a pick 6 and special teams going into halftime.
OU went into a 31-7 hole they couldn’t quite come back from.
Both teams won the 2nd half against tech.
I noticed the same thing about the TTU defensive numbers
But we didn’t turn the ball over to the Red Raiders 3 times.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
AND
Doege didn’t throw three interceptions to OU at the end of the game either.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
right.
Thats a turnover swing of 6…hard to argue the importance of that.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Did Doege throw 3 interceptions?
Or was OU not able to intercept 3 passes?
There is a difference that I think has been vital to KSU’s success.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Damn reply fail
To you ChrisP
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Good point.
Two of the three interceptions we got were because our defender (Malone and Hartman) jumped the route. Rat’s pick was on a thrown away ball.
And that seems to be the difference with the picks that HBCK has thrown. They haven’t come because of great defensive play as much as poor throws (am I remembering correctly?).
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd say the pick against Mizzou was an iffy decision ...
And a good play by the Mizzou defender.
The pick HCBK threw against Baylor (right?) was a bad throw 100% on him. A gift.
To me, it looks that KSU has an ability to anticipate in certain situations (based on film study, I’m sure) and take advantage. I don’t think there have been many gimmes as far as the INTs KSU has gotten are concerned. Rat’s pick on the throwaway attempt was one of them, and yet he still had to make a great catch to get it. Most of the rest, our guys have jumped the route and made good plays.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Oct 26, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I don't know if you noticed this
but OU almost got a pick 6 against Tech off the same exact play that Malone did.
And that’s pretty much what Malone was talking about in his interview on the Bill Snyder TV show this week. He was saying that the coaches are doing a really good job of giving them things to look for that tip off certain plays.
I would think we should be able to find those same kind of indicators in OU’s game.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I think it goes beyond that. If my memory is working today (I’m not going to look it up) we’ve held everyone under their averages. Which is part of the reason everyone feels like they lost, not we won. At some point, and remember saying this about the basketball team too, if no one can play the way they normally do against KSU people will realize it’s because KSU isn’t letting them do what they normally do. Not because they just had a off game. We are not luck enough to get everyone’s “off” game.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
This point can't be made enough, it seems.
Because we go through this every basketball season, and again during football.
I don’t know why this is hard for people to understand.
I would say “losing” a game would be something like being down by three and in field goal range and trying the fake FG and not converting than going for the tie.
I said this one other time…but If these teams had lined up and played against Kent State instead of Kansas State, I do not believe Kent State would be 7-0. If all these teams just had an off day when they played us, and it had nothing to do with how we actually played, then you would be able to substitute any team in our place and they should also expect to be 7-0. And I don’t think there is anyone from any of these teams we have beaten who would agree that Kent State would have also beat them.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
you can reference the table in this week's poll
it shows the defense numbers.
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Point being
Our defense did better than OU’s defense.
Suck it Sooners.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm quite certain that's a sign of the apocalypse.
Cosh + Burns > Stoops + Venereal
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Malone said as much after the TT game.
He said that HCBS drew it up in practice and told them the keys to look for and exactly where the ball would go on that play. Malone said he just about failed to see the key but then realized what the play was and instinct took over from there.
There is, indeed, a difference between someone throwing an interception and the other team making an interception.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.
When you look back at Snyder's games against Stoops
He is the victor in preparation every time. I say that because Stoops always has more talent but the scores (with the obvious 2003 exception) were quite close. I believe it was 2000 when we fumbled on their 3 yd line at the end of the game and lost by 3, then went on to lose in the big 12 championship by 3 again. Stoops, in my opinion, is a good,but not great coach.
Venebles is blitz happy as usual and Snyder will throw a screen or two to burn them. I just see this being one of the great games of this season. I have to believe being at home with Snyder, we will win. I just feel it is going to happen.
Bitchslapping Texas since 1997
I am actually less worried or nervous about this game
than I was for the Tech game. This was before OU lost to Tech on Saturday.
But after watching that game, and comparing our performance against Tech (on the road) to OU’s performance to Tech (at home), I really got even less worried about this game. And with the Tech games coming one week apart, it is a much fairer comparison, IMO, than it would be if Tech opened the season with us, and played OU in the next to last game of the season.
It has been mentioned on here several times, but to me, Landry only looks like a Heisman contender when things are going well. When he isn’t pressured, he makes nice decisions and throws. When he is under the slightest bit of duress, it seems as if he totally panics. RGIII (and Franklin) still appeared to be very calm and collected even when things were falling apart around them. I did not see the same thing from Landry on Saturday.
We need to knock him down a couple times early and keep him rattled all day.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
All I ask is that we never, ever, repeat the embarrassment of hiking the ball...
out of the endzone with no punter on the field. That alone will be a big “win” for us.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Strategery?
I’ve never heard of what you speak. Is that some kind of strategic manipulation of statistics or something? lol
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 26, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear God, I was hoping no one would bring that up
It was that play that made me realize Snyder had lost his mojo.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Wow thanks for reminding me
That was not a fun game.
by 2.1 seconds left on Oct 26, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think KSU's ability to slow OU's run game without needing to over-commit to that purpose is the key ...
If KSU can, the game should be well within control. If not, it’s going to be tough to stop them from scoring a lot of points.
Obviously, the turnover battle is #1 as always. Though being able to handle OU’s run game effectively would definitely help to create turnover opportunities.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Oct 26, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Broyles v. Hartmann one on one...
should be right out.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
by Catbacker98 on Oct 26, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Frankly, Hartman vs Broyles/Stills/Jazz or anyone on OU's roster should be right out.
by Itchy n Scratchy on Oct 26, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, put him on Stills.
If Hartman’s within five yards of him and the ball doesn’t hit Stills in the numbers, he won’t catch it anyway.
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my two cents
K State has a real chance of winning. The OU Offense is stronger than their defense and suffers from the “we can make up the difference” playing. The defense, while stronger than past years, still lacks in corner coverage. Establish run/option with Klein, attempt a couple of deep passes (notice I said attempt) then throw little 3-5 yard passes and you’re probably set to be up enough to pull what TXT did.
Additionally, y’all keep this up and Snyder should be a top contender for coach of the year.
Oh and Baby Brother Stoops just can’t “instruct student athletes.” Says nothing about “volunteering time with family to review tape, game plans, offer sage advice” (who am I kidding here?).
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
we would love to have little brother Stoops provide the advice from AZ game plans.
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it worked against Mizzou!
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Oct 26, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
MU played AZ-State not AZ
but if you want to use MU game plans, not a problem.
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
my brain cells died...it happens.
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Oct 26, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That means the booze is working.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
if only there was booze!
5 hour meeting of death…only 1.5 hours in.
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Oct 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I will continue to harp on
There’s only been 1 Snyder vs Stoops loss worse than 10 pts. I don’t know exactly how many games have been played between the two, but he’s 1-6 maybe? So at the very least expect a 10pt loss as the worst case scenario. We have a serious shot at the win for sure.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Good point
I thought Snyder always played Stoops close. Not enough wins there for my taste, but the Cats always fight hard.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Helps when he taught Stoops at least 75% of what he knows.
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Oct 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It's on josh heupel
To call the right plays at the right times, particularly in the red zone. Red zone inefficiencies and shitty kickers could do us in if it’s a close game. 5 kickers, four on scholarship. All suck. Well Stevens is ok
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by AllenOU on Oct 26, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good grief, really? Why so many?
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I wish I knew
the one that is injured, stevens, is good from 35 yds and in. the rest are not very good
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Yep...5 of em
It’s beyond ridiculous really.
And Allen is right. None have proven they can beat out the guy in front of them. Only reason Hunnicut is in is because Stevens is “hurt”.
I don’t know why Stoops does it, but the team is now limited with actual skill guys’ scholarships because of the five bumps on a log that have a nifty little “K” next to their name.
Wow
You probably know KSU was short something like 12 scholarship players in the offseason. I’m sure some of those spots (like Finney, the center, and Voelker, the strong DE) are filled, but I’d never accuse Snyder of being silly with scholarships. I think Stoops is being silly.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Silly
isn’t even the word. I can think of LOADS of other words for this decision…none are very nice! LOL
Im really baffled.
I mean find a freaking kicker!! jeez!
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ha ha ha
I’ve been angry most of this week, so I’m trying to behave myself now.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I was thinking about this last night
So OSU is going to be a nightmare game. Weeden and Blackmon are really good, and OSU actually seems to have a D this year. Yikes.
However, Mike Sherman can’t coach his way out of a wet paper sack, and I don’t think Brown can either. I think the Cats will beat the Dog Lovers, and I’m feeling good about UT as well.
If the Cats lose to OSU but go 11-1, I think a BCS bowl bid is a real shot. 10-2, probably not, because of how many really good records are out there.
Anyway, here’s hoping I finally see some beautiful inside screens that KSU used to be so good at (hey Bob, do you remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTCR6E8Al5M). No, Hubert isn’t Sproles, but I think Hubert (and all the WRs) could do really good things in the face of blitzes.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
by Sean T on Oct 26, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
wait wait wait
You think Okie Light has a DEFENSE?!
/never stops laughing
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Oct 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well in comparison to KU's defense
They are great! :)
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
Greatest. Post. Ever.
Thanks for that little trip down memory lane.
I'm just glad we don't have to be subjected to ridiculous graphics like that Sproles breakdown at 6:12.
Seriously? They thought that was cool? I’m pretty sure those were outdated graphics even in 2003.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
coming from the preseason 5-7 prediction guy? Why is that...
…a 20oz bottle of optimism you’re drinking? Welcome!
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Kiss my butt GT!
A man can be happy to be wrong!
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Fleming, good, and habern won't play
Whaley and Tom wort should play
So still some key guys out.
99 was the last time stoops lost two in a row in the reg season. UT and ND
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by AllenOU on Oct 26, 2011 4:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So your point is that he's due to lose 2 in a row?
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by Anon_the_younger on Oct 26, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think there was one other time that he lost two games in a row, though.
I’m racking my brain to remember, but I believe there was a bit of hardware on the line, and that Coach Snyder was involved in some way…
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Do bowl games count?
As in last game of the regular season and then BCS bowl games.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Yeah.
I was being a bit facetious, because AllenOU was just going with only regular season since the last time it happened was actually 2003, when KSU churched them in the CCG, and then they got destroyed in the NCG.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
You keep bringing up old stats like they matter mate
All that really matters is what’s going on this year. Tell me you’re feeling better now that the team had a players only meeting.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
actually YOU ALL were the ones bringing up old stats
like 2003 big 12 championship etc. i was just playing along
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One thing that worries me is Arthur seemingly still gimped up.
OU likes to use their TEs in the passing game. We’re going to need all of our LBs to play some good coverage. With AB not 100% I worry how that’s going to turn out.
But as many have said, Snyder always seems to game plan well for OU. I won’t say I’m confident the Cats will win this one, but I am confident it will at worst be a single digit loss.
He didn't seemed gimped up vs. KU.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
*seem
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Looked to me like he was limping around a bit.
Maybe I was imagining things.
And I like the Cats in a single digit game this year
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Screw single digits
we put up 59 on KU two years in a row.
I want 35-7, KSU! On national tv.
oh hail the Purple and White
This feels more to me like the 1998 Nebraska game, with less of the baggage and no Gameday.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody see this Trevohnn Wranch from Gardner Edgerton last week
Kid’s a sophomore and looks fast as nails. I want to think he’s going to be something special when it comes to be a rb prospect as a Sr.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Nope, and I live in Edgerton and went to HS there
I’ll have to ask about him.
The Cat's.
OU will need to be on top of their game at Kansas State. These guys will beat you with their coaching. This team likes to run the ball but know the OU record on how they lose games. OU has big troubles with anyone that can pass the ball. Don’t take my word for this, Just look at past videos. If they start rushing Landry Jones the Sooners are in for a bad day.
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