Sunflower Showdown Q&A with Rock Chalk Talk
K-State travels to Lawrence this weekend to meet KU in the 109th Sunflower Showdown. Thanks to Owen of Rock Chalk Talk for taking the time to answer a few questions for us. You can check out my answers to his questions at RCT.
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BOTC: I have a friend who believes that Turner Gill isn't qualified to be a Big 12 coach, and doesn't care if KU keeps losing if it means they get rid of him earlier. Is that a common sentiment, or is there still a belief that KU can turn it around under Gill?
RCT: Right now there is HOPE that Turner Gill can turn it around but I would say belief is hanging on by a thread. I do think that many Kansas fans do believe that some level of continuity is pretty key in building a program in Lawrence so from that standpoint I think there are plenty that are willing to give him some time to see what really takes shape. Yes there are those that want him fired asap and then there are those that are blind supporters, but I would say most of us are not satisfied with what is happening on the field, but we have seen some positive things in terms of recruiting and we're ready to see it through another year at the very least. Now if he's fielding the worst defense in the country next year and allowing 66 and 70 points to be put on us, then we might have a different conversation. |
Defensively I'd have to point to Steven Johnson. He's a walk on that is now a scholarship player and he has a GREAT story to tell. He's overcome a lot and worked his ass off to be where he is today. I don't know if concerned is the right word, but he's the one guy that Kansas can count on to show up ready to fight every week. Some of that personality seems to be rubbing off but it's a bit of a shame that he's on the worst defense in the country because he obviously isn't going to get the exposure that I think he deserves.
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Why are the question bubbles all getting cut off at the right hand side?
You exceed the post width?
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
So, it isn't just me.
good to know.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Is the format messed up for anyone else?
The sidebar on the right is covering up some of the text. I normally view the page in the wide format, and switching to narrow actually makes it even worse.
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Pinch Poke owe me a Coke.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
or a nice hand-crafted beer.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
speaking of that
You ever had anything from Tallgrass Brewery?
I didn’t even know it existed until a friend of mine asked me about it earlier this week.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
In case you knew nothing about them either
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
you need to get out more.
it is on tap at the Hut and probably other places.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
As in Pizza Hut?
Well, even if I DID get out more, I would not be getting it there. I affectionately refer to that place as Pizza Butt.
I remember Pizza Hut from before the days of being taken over by Pepsico (now Yum foods).
But you are right, I probably do need to get out more.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hibachi hut buddy
I think Anon and I are going to have to make you move to Lowrents if you can’t get your Manhattan-isms right!
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
I haven't lived in Manhattan for 10 years
and I find that really funny. Come on Man, Pizza Hut?
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
To be honest,
I went to Texas Star Cafe once when I was going to school here and was NOT impressed in the least bit. That pretty much ruined my chances for giving Hibachi Hut a try.
Hence why I didn’t even think of that when Anon said the Hut. Out of sight, out of mind I guess.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Go to the Hut, sit at the bar, order a Tallgrass Ale off the tap,
followed by ordering either the jambalaya or a gaucho. There is other stuff on the menu that is also very tasty but I have not been in since they changed the menu around.
20 years ago the Texas Star menu was fairly unique in MHK, but over time the addition of Chillis and he other chains took away the uniqueness. So I believe they recently redid the menu.
The chicken fried steak is still a good nap inducing meal.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Interestingly enough, the chicken fried steak is what I had.
I love me a good chicken fried steak, and that, IMO, was not a good one.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
where do you get a good chicken fry then?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't say that I've had one in Manhattan
Best one I ever had was at the Wheatland Cafe in Hudson, KS.
Again, I went one time, and was not impressed. It is possible I went on an off day.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly Little Apple Brewery?
Can’t remember if I ever had one there.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
like I said go back order the beer on tap and order the jambalaya or gaucho
I’ve never been to Hudson, KS …. although I’ve seen it from the hwy.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If you didn't know about the Cafe
you would have absolutely no reason to stop there.
My grandparents live on the Barton/Stafford county line, and I learned about it when I was younger and would stay with them over the summer.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
there are lots of little small place like that in KS
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks you just made my mouth water...Hibachi Hut.
Nom Nom Nom.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
Here let me help you out from under that rock.
How does it take that long to find out about Tallgrass?!?
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
Love the Hut...
but not a fan of the Tallgrass brew….blasphemy I know, but it just isn’t any good – and I drink a TON of micro / import brews with an affinity for most of them. Heck, my neighbor brews his own brew, has an English style pub in his basement and has guest brewed for local Wichita brewers, but I can’t come to like the Tallgrass stuff.
What is wrong with me?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mac attack ict on Oct 21, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
You must have hit your head or something.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 21, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the ale and the buffalo sweat, but I don't like the rest
I’m not a fan of hops.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
At least it isn't "Buffalo Honey"...
Buffalo Honey = Duck Butter (to me they are one in the same). If you still don’t know what I’m referring to, I will spare you the pleasure. I don’t want to gross you out. And this is a family blog.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you on this
ale and stouts are tasty. Anything with lots of hops is not that good.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
almost picked up some Buffalo Sweat tonight
never really liked the Wheat
Hate all IPAs
Kold wasn’t that great either
But I love Buffalo Sweat. Probably my top favorite stouts.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
Well, for one.
Tallgrass was founded in 2007. Or 4 years after I left.
And two, I’m not a big beer drinker (or drinker of any kind). Yes, I was drinking the Berry Weiss last week during the game, but really I don’t HAVE to have any at all.
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
are you sure you graduated from K-State?
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because Pan chose to depict KSU as the alcoholic
doesn’t mean we are all alcoholics. :)
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by Jeremy Sharp on Oct 21, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh
I know, I drink when I want but do not have to drink.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We aren't? Must just me and all my friends then.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. - Vince Lombardi
I wasn't around during the Prince years, so I don't know if TB had the same resignation Owen does, but its rather sad
Yeah, KU isn’t big into football, and I can’t blame them. But when one of your two flagship teams (there’s football, mens bball, and everything else) is a clusterfuck, well, it isn’t fun talking about them. Remember the bad old days of KSU basketball? Yuck.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Its sad just due to the intense apathy
The years I was in school (2004 – 2008) the football team was, at the very worst, damn competitive. Everyone always points to ’08, my senior year, where we won a BCS game and the hoops title… but shit, thats rare and is never happening again. What happened to 2006 when football went 6-6 and everyone was mad because we blew close games and missed a bowl. I would kill to get back to that.
The losing has cranked up the apathy level, and casual KU football fans have sprinted away in droves. A lot felt like they bought in in 2008-2009 (season ticket sales went up quickly, place was sold out, etc) only to get burned scorched by what followed (the 7 straight loses, Mangino scandal, the Gill reign of horror).
But hey, if there is a silver lining in all this, its that I can go to pretty much any game now for like ten bucks… ::douses himself in gasoline::
good luck saturday
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Oct 21, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
I went to mens bball games at KSU in 2001 and 2002, but they were awful. The team was medicore at best, and getting hammered by the big dogs wasn’t any fun. I don’t remember a single player from my entire undergrad experience.
What a difference a single hire can make. Hugs made the Cats a story and respectable, and then he left Beasley and Walker (and Pullen!), and Martin didn’t totally screw it up. Now Martin is a fantastic second ambassador for the school, and the best PR man KSU has.
Unfortunately what my Mom said about Mangino, after seeing him really early on killed his career at KU, was right on. He was a very angry man, and she knew that immediately. Self is fantastic, and a brilliant ambassador, but men’s bball just doesn’t make waves like football.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
You don't remember Jeremiah Massey!?
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 21, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't read the interview very well,
with the bubbles cut off on the right side.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I think you're the only having this problem.
/snark
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 21, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I noticed those.
I was just adding my voice to the chorus.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
TB is punishing us for hijacking his post earlier this week.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
BOTC - Read the Adventures of the BigXII if you doubt our serious attitude towards sports.
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 21, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see what happens if I try this:
BOTC: I have a friend who believes that Turner Gill isn’t qualified to be a Big 12 coach, and doesn’t care if KU keeps losing if it means they get rid of him earlier. Is that a common sentiment, or is there still a belief that KU can turn it around under Gill?
RCT: Right now there is HOPE that Turner Gill can turn it around but I would say belief is hanging on by a thread. I do think that many Kansas fans do believe that some level of continuity is pretty key in building a program in Lawrence so from that standpoint I think there are plenty that are willing to give him some time to see what really takes shape. Yes there are those that want him fired asap and then there are those that are blind supporters, but I would say most of us are not satisfied with what is happening on the field, but we have seen some positive things in terms of recruiting and we’re ready to see it through another year at the very least. Now if he’s fielding the worst defense in the country next year and allowing 66 and 70 points to be put on us, then we might have a different conversation.
BOTC: What’s the biggest cause of the defense’s struggles? I felt like the move to a 3-4 was a mistake, but is it the scheme, the personnel, injuries, poor coaching, a combination thereof, or something else?
RCT: I wish I knew. Up until last week it seemed so horrendous that I don’t think anyone had an answer. Vic Shealy put together a somewhat aggressive scheme last week against OU and that seemed to help a bit which was nice to see but overall it’s been fairly vanilla. Injuries haven’t been a huge issue, but I do think from a personnel standpoint we’re really hurting on the defensive line in terms of depth and that has been a back breaker in making the move to the 3-4. All in all I’d say it’s a huge combination of factors, but I say that because it’s been pretty much impossible to pinpoint one thing that could fix it. I will say that they at least played with some fire and passion last week and as I mentioned that was a HUGE relief because this team felt like it was on the verge of rolling over to die.
BOTC: Which players should K-State be concerned about on offense and defense?
RCT: Offensively Kansas will need to run the ball to have a chance. I think James Sims and Darrian Miller are the one two combo in the backfield and Darrian Miller might have worked his way into the top running back spot over Sims at this point. But if I really had to pick one player on offense that is pretty key it’s Jeremiah Hatch at center. You won’t here his name and obviously he doesn’t get any of the glory, but when he went out last week the Kansas offense stalled and the running game took a bit of a dip.
Defensively I’d have to point to Steven Johnson. He’s a walk on that is now a scholarship player and he has a GREAT story to tell. He’s overcome a lot and worked his ass off to be where he is today. I don’t know if concerned is the right word, but he’s the one guy that Kansas can count on to show up ready to fight every week. Some of that personality seems to be rubbing off but it’s a bit of a shame that he’s on the worst defense in the country because he obviously isn’t going to get the exposure that I think he deserves.
BOTC: Does KU keep this one close and have a shot to win at the end?
RCT: Well I think those are two questions and I think they are also a matter of perspective. I do think that Kansas State’s style this year leads to the type of game that Kansas could keep close. How long it stays close, I don’t know. Shot to win at the end? One second I think yes, the next I think no. I guess when I look at this game and realize that a year ago it was a 52 point difference I have a hard time getting too excited especially since one team has improved and the other really hasn’t. I’ll be watching, rooting and I wake up Saturday morning with hope, but the six days of the week leading up to Saturday I try to be “constructively critical” and that part of me is less confident. Did I answer the question or does this come off as a Dan Hawkinsesque excuse?
by grmann on Oct 21, 2011 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Good work
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
Sorry about the formatting issues
I put the post together yesterday morning and scheduled it to post during the afternoon. The formatting issues weren’t apparent when I put the post together, and when it posted and I noticed them, I was at work and couldn’t fix it.
My bad, Owen. Thanks for giving us answers to questions, of which we could read about 90 percent of what you said.
We'll carry the banner high!
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