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BIG 12 OUTLOOK: 01.24.11


Big 12 Conference Standings

(updated 1.23.2011)


 

What a wacky weekend. The only home team that didn't win was Kansas, snapping a 69-game home win streak.

It's still early, but the Big 12 appears to be segregating itself into four tiers.

There's the Contenders (Kansas, Texas, Texas A&M), the Dark Horses (Baylor, Colorado, Missouri), the Punching Bags (Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State) and the Cannon Fodder (Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech).

Saturday's topsy-turvy chaos sets up at least one compelling midweek match-up: Kansas at Colorado.

With a win, the Buffaloes actually would be a half-game ahead of the Jayhawks in the conference standings, despite an embarrassing loss in Norman on Saturday.

Star-divide

Seed* Record* Tourney* RPI Pomeroy Sagarin Streak Best Win** Worst Loss** Coach
Texas 1 16-0 NCAA 15 5 7 W-4 Kansas USC Rick Barnes
Kansas 2 15-1 NCAA 1 3 3 L-1 Arizona Texas Bill Self
Texas A&M 3 11-5 NCAA 16 30 32 W-1 Washington Boston College Mark Turgeon
Missouri 4 8-8 NCAA 29 18 22 W-2 Vanderbilt Colorado Mike Anderson
Baylor 5 8-8 NIT 87 44 43 W-1 Oklahoma State Iowa State Scott Drew
Colorado 6 7-9 NIT 84 65 61 L-2 Missouri Oklahoma Tad Boyle
Nebraska 7 7-9 NIT 108 40 46 L-1 Colorado Davidson Doc Sadler
Oklahoma State 8 7-9 Bubble 40 72 74 L-1 Missouri State Baylor Travis Ford
Iowa State 9 7-9 NIT 90 45 44 L-2 Baylor Nebraska Fred Hoiberg
Kansas State 10 6-10 Bubble 50 49 41 L-2 Virginia Tech Colorado Frank Martin
Texas Tech 11 2-14 None 188 157 166 W-1 Nebraska Oklahoma Pat Knight
Oklahoma 12 2-14 None 158 137 146 W-2 Colorado Chaminade Jeff Capel

Note: As any of these numbers change, I will bold and color-code them to indicate direction of change.
Team names that are colored indicate a change in seed.
(green = upward, red = downward)

*Predicted
**According to RealTimeRPI

 

Discussion

There's the shakeup I've been waiting for! This feature has been way too static this year. I like a little turmoil, and we certainly have it after Saturday's games.

The big winners were Texas and Missouri. As I explained in the comments below, Texas is in an extremely favorable position now, as long as the Longhorns don't stub their toe more than once or twice. They also hold the most important tiebreaker in the league. The road to the Big 12 championship now goes through Austin.

Missouri shot upward from the No. 7 seed to the No. 4, not so much because of anything it did, but because Colorado's unexpected loss dropped the Buffaloes out of a projected tie in which they had the upper hand. That moves accords with reality. I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Mizzou is at least the fourth-best Big 12 team.

Computer numbers largely followed results, except in the cases of Texas Tech, which inexplicably saw its Sagarin ranking drop despite its best win of the season, and Kansas State, which received a numbers boost due to the strong resume of its most recent opponent. That, at least, was a quality loss, unlike some others we've had.

I'm downgrading Colorado and Iowa State back to NIT status. Colorado simply has too many ugly losses to overcome, while Iowa State simply has too many losses, period. On the plus side for the Cyclones, they get OU and Tech at home this week, so it's a chance to get some confidence back after a tough road stretch.

K-State and Oklahoma State both stay on the bubble for now, but they're both falling toward the wrong side quickly.

OSU desperately needs a quality win of some kind, preferably one on the road, and also needs to stop losing games by double-digit margins. K-State just needs any kind of win to stop the bleeding.

And now for a few housekeeping items. First, please note that the writeup is complete for the prior installment of BIG 12 OUTLOOK, if you haven't had a chance to read it yet. I apologize for the incomplete upload the other day.

Also, a slight aesthetic adjustment is that unless a team's "best win" in the chart above was added in the most recent round of games, it will be color-coded red instead of green.

My reasoning is that a new team, such as Virginia Tech, only moves into that spot because the previous occupant (in this case, Gonzaga) fell on its face and saw its RPI drop as a result. Clearly, that's not a positive thing, so green seems an inappropriate color. I should have started doing that two years ago, really.

GAMER: Now has Baylor losing at Oklahoma, Kansas losing at Missouri, and Texas winning at Nebraska and Oklahoma State.

Pomeroy: Now has Missouri winning at Iowa State and Nebraska losing at Colorado.

Sagarin: Now has Missouri winning at Nebraska.

 

Self-Evaluation

My first really bad pick day of the season came as a result of three somewhat surprising upsets. I joked earlier in the year that BIG 12 OUTLOOK's strategy was to pick the home team, unless it was Oklahoma or Texas Tech, or unless the road team was Kansas. That strategy backfired every which way Saturday.

Colorado and Nebraska both proved not to be ready for prime time by losing in Norman and Lubbock, respectively.

Colorado hasn't won in Norman since 1980, but if not now, when?

And Nebraska was lucky to be in a position to win after being fouled on a 3-pointer with 11 seconds left, converting all three free throws to take a one-point lead. But the Huskers allowed D'walyn Roberts to tip in a missed shot with just three seconds left in the game for the win.

In hindsight, both outcomes were a bit predictable. But KU's loss at home was nothing short of shocking.

Yes, Texas is a very good team, but the Longhorns never had won in Lawrence before. And KU always wins these kinds of games, right? Well, not on Saturday. Rick Barnes netted the signature win of his career, snapped a historic streak and seized control of the Big 12 race with a result that sent shock waves through the BIG 12 OUTLOOK.

Cumulative pick record: 23-6 (.793)

 

Key

Results are plugged into this wonderful tool to generate the predicted records and seed order. Winners are predicted by a best-of-three system comprising three statistical prediction models:

Predicted Outcomes

01.08
4-1 (.800)
76 Missouri
89 Colorado
62 K-State
76 O-State
62 I-State
63 Nebraska
69 A&M
51 Oklahoma
71 Baylor
59 Tech
01.11-01.12
5-1 (.833)
83 Texas
52 Tech
61 Oklahoma
74 Baylor
84 Kansas
79 I-State
74 Colorado
66 K-State
69 Nebraska
77 Missouri
48 O-State
71 A&M
01.15
6-0 (1.000)
71 O-State
75 Colorado
57 Baylor
72 I-State
60 Tech
94 K-State
60 Nebraska
63 Kansas
89 Missouri
91 A&M (OT)
46 Oklahoma
66 Texas
01.17-01.19
5-1 (.833)
85 Kansas
65 Baylor
59 K-State
75 Missouri
67 Colorado
79 Nebraska
74 Tech
83 Oklahoma
87 I-State
96 O-State (OT)
60 A&M
81 Texas
01.22
3-3 (.500)
57 O-State
76 Baylor
60 Colorado
67 Oklahoma
56 K-State
64 A&M
74 Texas
63 Kansas
54 I-State
87 Missouri
71 Nebraska
72 Tech
01.24-01.26
Baylor
@ K-State (GPS)
Kansas (GPS)
@ Colorado
Tech
@ I-State (GPS)
Texas (GPS)
@ O-State
01.29
Colorado
@ Baylor (GPS)
Oklahoma
@ I-State (GPS)
K-State
@ Kansas (GPS)
Missouri
@ Texas (GPS)
A&M
@ Nebraska (GPS)
O-State (PS)
@ Tech (G)
01.31-02.02
Texas (PS)
@ A&M (G)
Kansas (GPS)
@ Tech
Baylor (PS)
@ Oklahoma (G)
I-State
@ Colorado (GPS)
Nebraska
@ K-State (GPS)
Missouri (PS)
@ O-State (G)
02.05
K-State
@ I-State (GPS)
Colorado
@ Missouri (GPS)
Kansas (GPS)
@ Nebraska
Oklahoma
@ O-State (GPS)
Baylor
@ A&M (GPS)
Tech
@ Texas (GPS)
02.07-02.09
Missouri
@ Kansas (GPS)
A&M (PS)
@ Colorado (G)
Nebraska
@ Baylor (GPS)
Texas (GPS)
@ Oklahoma
02.12
K-State
@ Colorado (GPS)
I-State
@ Kansas (GPS)
Oklahoma
@ Missouri (GPS)
O-State
@ Nebraska (GPS)
A&M (GPS)
@ Tech
Baylor
@ Texas (GPS)
02.14-02.16
Kansas (GPS)
@ K-State
Tech
@ Missouri (GPS)
I-State
@ A&M (GPS)
Nebraska (PS)
@ Oklahoma (G)
O-State
@ Texas (GPS)
02.19
Tech
@ Baylor (GPS)
Missouri (P)
@ I-State (GS)
Oklahoma
@ K-State (GPS)
Colorado
@ Kansas (GPS)
Texas (GPS)
@ Nebraska
A&M (PS)
@ O-State (G)
02.21-02.23
O-State
@ Kansas (GPS)
I-State
@ Texas (GPS)
Colorado (GPS)
@ Tech
Baylor
@ Missouri (GPS)
K-State
@ Nebraska (GPS)
Oklahoma
@ A&M (GPS)
02.26
A&M
@ Baylor (GPS)
Texas (GPS)
@ Colorado
Nebraska
@ I-State (GPS)
Missouri (P)
@ K-State (GS)
Kansas (GPS)
@ Oklahoma
Tech
@ O-State (GPS)
02.28-03.02
K-State
@ Texas (GPS)
Missouri (S)
@ Nebraska (GP)
Baylor
@ O-State (GPS)
Colorado
@ I-State (GPS)
A&M
@ Kansas (GPS)
Oklahoma
@ Tech (GPS)
03.05
Texas (GPS)
@ Baylor
Nebraska
@ Colorado (GPS)
I-State
@ K-State (GPS)
Kansas (PS)
@ Missouri (G)
O-State (PS)
@ Oklahoma (G)
Tech
@ A&M (GPS)

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Giving it some thought

1. I sure would love to see A&M take the conference title now that we’re out of the mix, but where do they draw the ‘Hawks at? If it’s in College Station then it’s a possibility, otherwise not.

2. The only thing we have going for us for a NCAA berth by finishing 8-8 or 9-7 in conference play, is that to do so we have to finish the year 7-4 or 8-3. Why is that an advantage you ask? Because of how much talk you hear about around tourney time for bubble teams of who’s playing hot right now? So as long as we don’t lose say 2 in a row in the last 4 games somewhere, and then exit the conference tourney in the first game, we probably have a good enough resume to get in, as long as 1 of those wins is from Mizzu, Texas or KU.

by GTcat on Jan 24, 2011 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

That game is in Lawrence.

This league is now Texas’ to lose. Even if they drop the game in College Station, the Longhorns have to be considered the favorite because they only play Missouri once and they play in the much weaker division (i.e., two games each against OU and Tech).

by BracketCat on Jan 24, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Our non-con also will be a help.

It’s about 15 times better than it was in 2008-09, when 9-7 wasn’t quite enough to get us in.

Also, there are four more spots in the Big Dance this year. If we get to .500, we have a chance. If we get to 9-7, I pretty much think we’re in. And if we beat a decent opponent for a so-called “signature” win and/or win at least one game in the Big 12 Tournament, we’re a lock.

by BracketCat on Jan 24, 2011 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I think our tourney path is pretty clear now ...

I think the likeliest path to the dance for KSU is:

6-2 home record: Already a loss to CU, probable loss to ku (just saying that win would be a bonus). Baylor is soft … if we can’t get that one tonight, then fuck us. Mizzou is the tricky one here)

3-5 road record: IMO, we have to sweep @CU, @NU, @ISU to get this done. I know we own Texas, but … I mean, come on.

9-7 conference record and KSU is a lock, given what the rpi and non-con schedule strength will be.

Side note: I think CU’s season is about to crash to a 6-10 record. They are a big-time pretender. Guess they are even 7-9 in the predicted finish above, so I suppose I’m not going out on much of a limb there.

by Itchy n Scratchy on Jan 24, 2011 6:26 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with all your thoughts

I realize winning in Aimes, Lincoln and Boulder is tough, but we are still the better team, and there’s still the chance we upset KU or Texas on the road. I mean we really probably should have beat A&M is the stripes could have let them play at the end rather than calling every touch foul on us. WHEN we beat Baylor tonight, we will be one step closer.

I’m having a difficult time believing we finish in the bottom half of the big 12. 8-8 Looks likely to get in with a few decent wins. If we lose tonight all my hope is lost.

Bitchslapping Texas since 1997

by mjk7166 on Jan 24, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I still think we might be one of the first teams

To take advantage of that new 5-11 play in game.

by GTcat on Jan 24, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

We will have to get to 8-8 to make that happen, though.

I would take that in a heartbeat, if someone offered it right now.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Jan 24, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

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