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DEPTH CHART ANALYSIS: Week 4

Things are starting to settle down in the depth chart world.

Despite some surprise starters Saturday, rotations are becoming pretty set. If there isn't a sudden change at quarterback like there was last year around this time, I might discontinue this feature in a week or two.

Nevertheless, hit the jump for my analysis of the players we saw in Farmageddon II.

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Quarterbacks

Even a mildly devastating interception return for a touchdown thrown by Carson Coffman on one of the worst passes/coverage reads I've ever seen didn't tempt Bill Snyder to pull the plug on his starting quarterback.

But the word on the street is that Sammuel Lamur continues to push Coffman strongly in practice, even though he's not getting his number called in games that are tending to be closer than anyone wants to see.

It's not just an issue of knowing the plays — Snyder's staff signaled those in to Grant Gregory last season. Lamur apparently is too turnover-prone for Snyder to feel as though he can trust the redshirt junior.

If Slingin' Sammy doesn't see any action Saturday, I think we're sticking with Coffman for the long haul, barring injury.

 

Running Backs

Congratulations to William Powell on being named Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Week. He's been a shoelace tackle away from breaking several kickoff returns and it's a well-deserved honor.

Powell continues to spell Daniel Thomas effectively and I agree with Panjandrum that it would be nice to get the walk-on senior more carries. Thomas is a workhorse, but 34 carries is pushing it. Don't expect many changes in the rotation plan, though.

 

Fullbacks and Tight Ends

Andre McDonald continued to be the world's biggest TD tease, although it mostly was Coffman's fault that an easy TD pass wasn't completed. Travis Tannahill and Braden Wilson were not utilized as offensive weapons, but kudos to Wilson for a much improved blocking game and avoiding the penalties that plagued him a week ago.

 

Wide Receivers

Roles are beginning to be defined in the wide receiver corps. Brodrick Smith is the deep-threat badass who keeps bailing Coffman out on underthrows, Tramaine Thompson is the speedy little kid who's oh-so-close to breaking a big play, Aubrey Quarles is the steady and reliable possession receiver.

And Chris Harper is nowhere to be found. I think Coffman was trying to find him when he instead lobbed it to A.J. Klein for an easy six the other way, but it's hard to be sure because I was rendered temporarily blind while venting a torrent of angry invective at the time.

One really hopes that there are Harper plays and packages that have yet to be revealed, because a quick review of his highlight tapes at YouTube clearly show he can be a threat in our offense. But one does begin to wonder if he's not just another in the long line of 4- and 5-star busts that haven't panned out at K-State...

 

Offensive Line

The line is really starting to come together, and I don't think Snyder and Charlie Dickey plan to rock the boat too much here.

But Clyde Aufner quietly saw his first action of the season against Iowa State, so if the unit does not continue to improve in pass protection to complement its already formidable run blocking, he could slip back into his starting role within a few weeks.

 

Defensive Line

From what I saw Saturday, we're going with a rotation of Brandon Harold and Payton Kirk at one end position, and Antonio Felder and Kadero Terrell at the other spot. Meanwhile, Prizell Brown and Raphael Guidry are holding down the starting roles at defensive tackle, with Ray Kibble falling into "OR" status and providing depth.

But a three-man rotation at DT won't cut it against most Big 12 offensive lines, in my opinion. Yet I've just about given up hope of seeing Javonta Boyd at any point this season. It's a conundrum, but as long as we insist on soft pass defense and sometimes rushing only three, I guess we don't need that much depth anyway. Until someone gets hurt.

 

Linebackers

No sign of Arthur Brown, so I guess we can put that one to rest. Too bad — we sure could use the help.

Blake Slaughter made a surprise start in place of Jarell Childs, but the latter saw most of the snaps opposite Alex Hrebec late in the game when the outcome was in doubt, so even though the depth chart for this week lists Childs OR Slaughter, I think the converted running back likely will regain his spot.

Speaking of Hrebec, this week's "ohshithe'soslow" highlight had to be getting torched by Alexander Robinson down the middle for what should have been a tying touchdown late. Luckily, Austen Arnaud sucks at passing, but such instances continue to drive home Hrebec's deficiencies.

And yet, he's our leading tackler and one of the leading tacklers in the Big 12. For this year, at least, he appears to be the best we've got.

 

Defensive Backs

On said Hrebec play, Tysyn Hartman was busy adding triple coverage to an already double-covered wide receiver.

This is starting to become an extremely concerning pattern. Adding injury to insult, Emmanuel Lamur received no snaps this week and was dressed in street clothes with a rumored concussion. Ty Zimmerman is solid but not outstanding, and we're really missing Lamur's play-making ability back there.

The banged-up secondary appears to extend to the cornerbacks, with Troy Butler only playing a handful of snaps against the Cyclones and Stephen Harrison filling in with his first extended action of the season. Terrance Sweeney was slightly shaken up late in the game, but walked off under his own power and should be fine.

David Garrett continued to play admirably as a nickel defensive back, disrupting multiple passes. I paid close attention to the schemes Saturday (and had a good aerial view from the third level of Arrowhead Stadium) and I don't think we're running the 4-2-5 defense anymore.

It's more of a standard nickel (and sometimes a dime) and it perfectly fits Chris Cosh's motto of "Don't blitz, don't rush four, keep it all in front of you and hope they eventually screw up." Meanwhile, the depth chart for this position group continues to bear no resemblance to what's actually happening on the field. Ignore it.

 

Special Teams

Josh Cherry must have stepped up his game in practice, because I find it hard to believe Anthony Cantele lost his place-kicking job just for the one missed extra point. Either way, the competition is good for us because Cherry came through on two huge kicks.

Cantele's still handling kickoff duties, though, which allows Cherry to continue running down the field and clobbering people. Weird.

Lost in the shuffle is Ryan Doerr, who hit some absolutely booming punts and is starting to become a real weapon at that position. That should come in handy, considering our coverage still is suspect and our offense will stall a lot against the better defenses in the Big 12.

 

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Unless he has a meltdown

Or Lamur comes out and hangs 40 points in the 4th quarter, Carson is our QB.

by BlackCats on Sep 21, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

He meaning

Snyder or Coffman? I presume Coffman, but either might be applicable depending on your view of the KSU QB situation, Lamur, and Coffman…

'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert

by VegasCat07 on Sep 21, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He meaning

Coffman.

On a Harper note. One side of my brain tells me we’ve seen the offense for the year and Harper will be used as he has. The other side of my brain is telling me we haven’t seen anything yet, and won’t until the Nebraska game. I don’t know why, just a weird gut feeling.

by BlackCats on Sep 21, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with the latter...

I can’t see how one of the better athletes on our team won’t be used more eventually. Unless Thomas runs for 200 a game and we roll everyone, we need Harper to make more plays. Our D will not stop Nebraska so we have to pull out more than just “run the ball I think.”

Get ready to roll...Go Cats!

by mjk7166 on Sep 21, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been thinking about this as well

And I have a hard time believing that we have seen all the possible ways to utilize Harper’s abilities.

It IS possible that Snyder is trying to keep SOMETHING in his hip pocket for when we face the tougher competition. Yes, it would be nice to see Harper more involved up to this point, but I will gladly trade a lack of play right now for some unexpected (scoring) plays against Nebraska and Texas.

Just like in poker, you don’t show your entire hand until you absolutely have to, and in my opinion, we haven’t HAD to just yet.

by Jeremy Sharp on Sep 21, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harper

Haven’t seen him in person…but if Harper is a legit 6’1", 230…kind of wondering why he’s not playing running back. That size just seems rather large for a WR, and it might be a good switch up to Thomas.

by The Gentleman Masher on Sep 21, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Large for a WR?

I think you’re just used to the sizes of Brandon Banks and Tramaine Thompson. As long as you are fast and have great hands – the TALLER the better.

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by mystman995 on Sep 21, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's meaning the weight part...

And he does look like a big bruiser.

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by MeatGeek on Sep 21, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harper is only a sophomore.

This doesn’t preclude playing time, by any means. But we forget that it’s not uncommon for very good players to see limited action for a year or two before starting to get a chance. It would seem that Brod Smith has a leg up on Chris and they would likely play the same role. Thompson is a different type of weapon. Quarles has, perhaps, a senior’s know-how. Even if Harper finishes the year with a dozen catches, that doesn’t make him a bust. He’s not a bust until he’s doing that senior year.

Also, we all have the tendency to look at our through purple colored shades. Brod Smith, for example, was Phil Steele’s #202 WR coming out of high school. And going to Minnesota is no ringing endorsement of his “can’tmissabillity”, as the Gophers are traditionally somewhere between marginal and awful. Harper was higher ranked as a QB, but wasn’t a receiver. Smith has been great and Harper could be. But rest assured that Florida has six or seven guys on the roster who are considered much better prospects.

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by MrHappyMushroom on Sep 23, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

RB

We are pretty loaded at RB – I think you may have heard of our bunch this year and next. Putting Harper there would if anything place him in an even greater logjam.

Put me in the camp of blind faith that Harper is going to be a future great and just doesn’t have a defined role on the team yet. I think we’re all real happy with the play of Brod, Tramaine, and Quarles so far. Despite my desire to see what CH can really do out there, I’m okay being a little patient as long as our current WRs are playing this well.

by yeahboozin on Sep 21, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

The motto?

It’s sexist. But maybe it is just a bball thing.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Sep 21, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha ha

No, but both my fiancee and my Mom said that when I explained what EMAW meant. Neither are feminazis, so I’ll take their word for it.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Sep 21, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Around the BOTC world

it seems to just be omnipresent – as in if each poster EMAW’d each time they desired or meant it the board would just be full of EMAW posts??

Just a guess – I know I don’t use it much (never really did in “print”) because it seems almost over-used, to me.

'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert

by VegasCat07 on Sep 21, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it a little weird - I don't use it at all.

I’d rather say things like, “Fear the Beard!”

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by mystman995 on Sep 21, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

EMAW is still listed at the bottom

of the BOTC page under “EDITORS”… but I myself have not seen an EMAW post in a while.

'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert

by VegasCat07 on Sep 21, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He ascended into Heaven

Or not. You’ll have to ask TB on that one, ‘cause I don’t know.

by BracketCat on Sep 22, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't talked to him in a while...

…but he had some family issues about a year and a half ago and now he’s got work/family/etc. obligations. He’s still around, but doesn’t have time to post or comment.

We'll carry the banner high!
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by TB on Sep 22, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

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