Guide to Nebraska for Big 10 Fans
by TB on Jul 13, 2010 1:00 PM CDT
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After Nebraska announced it would join the Big 10 following the 2010-11 school year, an Internet love-fest ensued between the Cornhuskers and partisans of almost every Big 10 program (see generally, here). It was the kind of spectacle that, were it to occur in public, would have caused those standing around, forced by proximity to observe, to yell "get a room!" at the participants.
That this would occur is not particularly surprising, because Nebraskans are, by and large, some of the nicer people you will run across. They will welcome you in, especially because you are a foreigner (i.e., non-Nebraskan), and, well, they just don't see a lot of non-Nebraskans around these parts. You're new. You're different. You're interesting. They want to talk to you and know your life story.
However, as a college football fan, the initial fascination will not last. You will soon learn certain things about them, so I have decided to issue the following PSA to all fans of Big 10 schools, in order that they have a full year to prepare for the onslaught that awaits them. Without further ado, here's a taste of what you can expect from the Big Red, Big 10ers.
They will travel well, and therefore they are better fans than you. I grew up in Nebraska, and like a lot of people from my generation, I left (.pdf). It's not that I'm not proud of my home state, but the flat-out fact of the matter is that there aren't a whole lot of jobs there and there isn't a whole lot to do there.
So, when you're from Nebraska, a weekend trip to somewhere like Columbia, Mo., or Austin, Texas, sounds like a pretty sweet gig. Columbia is larger than all but two towns in Nebraska, and it's warm in Austin when Nebraska has long since frozen over. There won't be a lot of warm-weather stops in the Big 10, but every town in the Big 12 qualifies as "not Nebraska," and is therefore an attractive trip destination for people from North Platte and Crawford. As such, especially in the first few years, Big 10 fans can expect an invasion of Husker fans wearing foam corn cobs on their heads and, quite possibly, oversized overalls.
A simple Google-image search for "Nebraska Notre Dame" pulls up the infamous red invasion of South Bend back in the early 2000s. Take a look at that image, Big 10 fans. You will see some version of it in your stadiums. Afterwards, you will be reminded that Nebraska fans travel better than your fans, and are therefore better fans.
They have won some national championships, and are therefore better fans than you. If you are a fan of Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, and probably Illinois (pre-Depression national titles probably don't count to Nebraska fans), don't bother starting an argument with your average Nebraska fan. It doesn't matter how badly your team just beat the Huskers, or how many years in a row they've beat them. Nebraska has won five national championships. Your argument is therefore invalid.
They sell a lot of tickets to their spring game, and are therefore better fans than you. Never mind the entirely valid argument that 80,000 people in that state don't have anything better to do on a fine spring Saturday than watch a glorified scrimmage wherein the number-one offense gouges the number-two defense. The fact that they show up shows that they care, not that they're bored.
They are incapable of keeping their expectations in check, even the rational and intelligent ones, and even when they try to do so. For evidence, see here.
Assumptions are perfectly valid on their part, but are hopeless aspirations on your part. Nebraska went 10-4 last year, with losses to Virginia Tech, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Texas. They lost the conference's best player in DL Ndamukong Suh, who was only picked second in the NFL Draft. Their quarterback was terrible last year and had shoulder surgery in the offseason. They didn't have any playmakers on offense last year and were, at best, stagnant. They lose their top three tacklers from last season in Suh, LB Phillip Dillard, and S Larry Asante. Yet, it is perfectly acceptable for them to assume they will fill those holes, no problem, and not only be as good as last year, but a national-title contender.
However, if your team faces such similar personnel losses, the only valid assumption on your part is that you are headed for the tank. Ask Missouri fans.
They are the greatest fans in college football. Just ask them. It's also engraved on their stadium. At every entrance. You know, just so they can be reminded of it a lot. And, so long as their boys (from California and Florida and Texas) beat your boys, they'll give your boys a round of applause as they leave hallowed Memorial Stadium. However, get a little uppity and beat them once or twice, and suddenly they won't like you and won't applaud your team for a game well played and will consider your fans the scum of the earth.
In other words, they're like every other fanbase. Only they think they're different. Have fun!
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I'm not gonig to pretend to speak for all Missouri fans...but...
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Gonig!
Awesome. Awesome. Stupid fingers.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Correct me if I'm wrong...
but wasn’t Gonig (!) the slayer of the terrible big red in that old children’s tale from the sea?
by williewildcrack on Jul 13, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you have to pretend
I think that DOES speak for all Missouri fans.
Someone tell me what’s so unholy about this alliance?
They're in a state that worships Sunflowers
not to be trusted, those Sunflower worshipers.
Formerly known as Mizzou Grad
http://twitter.com/Ausgiano
Ain't that the freaking truth
It’s easy to be classy when you spend decades stomping all over your conference mates. It’s a lot tougher when you discover that your team is actually mortal. See also, “We don’t have any rivals SHUT UP MISSOURI”
Wow it's bitter in here.
1. NU does travel well. EVEN when we “sucked” (definition varies, NU sucking may not be the same as your team sucking" Does that make them great fans? (KSU should thank NU for it’s every-other-year sell out BTW).
2. Rich tradition is why NU was attractive to the B10. Also a program for Nebraska, which has won multiple national titles, generally will not stay down for long (see USC, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas). Our fans recognize this and celebrate out rich history.
3. Fans go to the spring game. Kinda makes them “better” fans.
4. High expectations are shared with… David Ubben, Phil Steele (Has NU at #5 pre-season) and other national pundits, more than just the fans. But yeah NU fan generally has high expectations. Guilty as charged I guess.
Now you may not think we’re special, but some people do. And so does the B10 which is why they invited Nebraska, not Texas, not Missouri, not K-State, Nebraska.
Enjoy your Orange Overlords.
You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool.
~Wanko the Sane
Big Red Kool-aid Drinker @ Corn Nation
you know there is more to a school than just football successful football team
thank goodness MU, KSU and a good majority of other Big XII schools have other successful sports teams. We dont live for football year round. We are successful in more than that.
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
Follow me on Twitter @muwxman
Other than mens basketball; What are you referring to?
And you’d give your left nut to have a team you could be proud of year round.
I am proud of my team year round
They are the Missouri Tigers.
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
Follow me on Twitter @muwxman
Women's bball, baseball recently, volleyball
No one ever gives a crap about track or soccer or softball.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
I am proud of my team year round...
That was a pretty strange comment.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Yeah, what does he think we are, KU fans?
by BracketCat on Jul 14, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And this is a fairly strange comment.
?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Gotcha.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Well let's look at the true success of MU and KSU compared to the Huskers in all sports
Missouri National Championships
Baseball (Men) – 1954
Indoor Track and Field (Men) – 1965
Kansas State National Championships
NONE
Nebraska National Championships
Football
1970 (11-0-1, No. 1 AP)
1971 (13-0 No. 1 AP/UPI )
1994 (13-0 No. 1 AP/Coaches (CNN/USA Today)
1995 (12-0 No. 1 AP/Coaches (CNN/USA Today)
1997 (13-0 No. 1 Coaches (ESPN/USA Today)
Volleyball
1995 (32-1)
2000 (34-0)
2006 (33-1)
Men’s gymnastics
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1988
1990
1994
Bowling
1991 (IBC)
1995 (IBC)
1997 (IBC)
1999 (IBC)
2001 (IBC)
2004 (NCAA)
2005 (NCAA)
2009 (NCAA)
Women’s track and field
1982 (AIAW)
1983 (NCAA)
1984 (NCAA)
So by my count, NU = 16, MU = 2, KSU = 0. All of Nebraska’s titles have come since 1970 where Mizzou’s were 1954 & 1965 the only thing left to say is SCOREBOARD!
by UpNorthHusker on Jul 14, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Sigh, let's put this in perspective
Iowa National Championships (wrestling only): 23
NU+MU+KSU (all sports combined)= 18
This isn’t to pump up Iowa either, wrestling continues to get less and less competitive at the NCAA level and while Dan Gable (who won 20 of those) did a lot of great things, there are a lot fewer guys to go through in wrestling than say, basketball.
Bottom line, it is really stupid to judge the worth of an athletic department by how many National Titles they have.
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
by KC_HAWKEYE on Jul 14, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe my favorite phrase of...
…this entire thread is “fucking homophones.”
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
Well Stated
This is not about all sports it is about Football….and who cares about bowling and gymnastics?
"You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to, uh, somebody, :You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us.: You understand? We were good fellas. Wiseguys."
by HawkCub on Jul 16, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at all those championships!
You’re obviously a better fan than us! It’s so clear to me now!
by BracketCat on Jul 15, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good to know that Mizzou
has ignorant fans like you. Not sure if you have noticed, but we also have a VERY successful volleyball program, womens basketball program, wrestling program, and a baseball team with sparks of life (made the CWS a few years ago).
Before you go attacking another school or fans for being passionate about a sport, make sure you actually no WTF you are talking about. It does not reflect well on the informed, educated alumni and current attendees of the University of Missouri when they have idiots spouting off about crap they know very little to nothing about.
But thanks for your opinions anyways.
GO BIG RED!
Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory
Well your baseball team had sparks of life...
Back when Alex Gordon played there, but alas your baseball fortunes have turned along with Alex’s. Did Nebraska make the big 12 tourney this year, because I can’t recall that they did.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
How great is it that a Nebraska fan gets on this post and gives evidence of all that is said!
I went to last years KState @ NU game and had a blast. The fans were great but no better than in Manhattan or anywhere else. The difference is that there were 80000 of the corn loving freaks! I admit its a crapload of red and the atmosphere is electric but its the same atmosphere you find in any stadium on a Saturday. The difference again is that there were 80000 of the corn loving freaks. I know they believe they are the best fans and are even narcissistic bold enough to put it on their stadium but doesn’t everyone believe that about themselves? Nebraska just mistakes the ability to have a Guiness world record night for most overalls in one place as a measurement of fan base. As for their inability to give rational expectations, right on. If my team had lost to the other half of Farmageddon last year in a game where neither team saw double digits, I pray that I wouldn’t be so insane optimistic as to publicly be predicting a possible shot at the National title. That’s not to say I wouldn’t ever be thinking it but dear Lord don’t put it in a place where actual humans with reason could see it. That’s the sort of thing you secretly write down and hide under your bed praying that no one ever finds. Then when your team goes 9-0 you pull it out and flaunt it like wild. I just think Nebraski fans have a hard time admitting that they might ever lose to anyone at anytime. It pains them to think those thoughts which is just like everyone else except there are 80000 of the corn loving freaks!
If I'm not mistaken..
You were a dominant football force in a Big 8 noted for being better overall in basketball(besides OU and Colorado), congratulations on that. You should’ve stayed loyal to the schools that let you kick them around year after year in the Big 8. O wait because Texas was evil, we started beating you more often. damn them orange overlords.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Aside form the
fairly obvious pomposity, and overblown sense of entitlement, a few points:
1. Nebraska does travel well…no one is refuting that, but you completely missed the point the author was making. It’s easy for Nebraska to travel well because, well…what else are you going to do on your weekends aside from re-watching the 1997 National Title game on VHS?
2. Nebraska does have a rich tradition, however, claiming that schools with rich tradition “never stay down for long” is fairly ludicrous…when was the last time you saw Miami or Notre Dame in a BCS game? Heck, for that matter, when was the last time Nebraska even won a conference championship? 1999…If that isn’t a drought, I don’t what is. There’s also a difference between celebrating tradition and rubbing everyone else’s face in it…
3. This point is just simply ridiculous…
4. Well, if DAVID UBBEN said you’d be amazing, I guess I don’t really have a response. Because if there is one thing we can all agree about, it’s that sports columnists/bloggers/writers are 100% accurate in the pre-season. Now, there’s nothing wrong with having high expectations, but again, nobody likes the guy who says how awesome he is…
Oh, also…Family Guy, were you proud of your team when they were putting up 7-5, 5-7, and 6-6 numbers? Did you brag about the Huskers then?
Ubben is a Mizzou grad
and he seemed real nice when he was in the newsroom, and he’s got a pretty cool job. But he’s 23, and a blogger (no offense to BOTC). And he’s Nebraska fans’ touchstone for success?
uh
by jschooltiger on Jul 13, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We supported the team when down, yes.
And the fan base never lost hope, never jumped ship. Always looked to tomorrow, with an eye on the past to keep us going. Says something about the fans.
Did you all miss the Steele part, you know #5 pre-season? Heck yeah I’m excited about that.
You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool.
~Wanko the Sane
Big Red Kool-aid Drinker @ Corn Nation
There is a difference between
the terms “proud” and “supported.” I supported the basketball team when it was run by Woolridge…and I supported the football team when it was run by Prince. But to say I was proud of final product would be saying too much.
Hence, I’m pretty sure you and your fans were never “proud,” which was the point I made…
Also, maybe I should have rephrased: “Gasp! Phil Steele said it?! Well golly shucks, it must be true. No team who’s ever been ranked in the top five pre-season by PHIL STEELE has ever had a bad outcome.”
Phil Steele continuously picks Colorado to finish in the top 3 in the North, yet, they haven't done that in a while.
It kind of kills his credibility for me.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Agreed
Phil picked MU 5th in the North last year, and has made similarly bizarre picks recently. He picked Andrew Jones, our TE (admittedly, highly regarded out of HS) as preseason all B12, when I’m not sure he even hit double digit receptions last year. Doubt he suddenly becomes Chase Coffman 2.0 this year.
Heritage doesn't go away
Scotland hasn’t been important for close to a thousand years. I’m still proud to be Scotish. But what do I know… I’m drunk:)
I'm not sure if that has anything to do with anything...
But I like the drunk part.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
How often is Nebraska going to be listened to once OSU, Michigan, PSU decide something?
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
Sean T makes an excellent point...
As was mentioned in some other message on here from awhile back, your the interns.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
I enjoy being in a conference with Texas...
They give us money, and unlike Nebraska, we tend to beat them in everything.
It’s a good deal for us.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
ENVY
Your ENVY of us is frightening, reminds me of a Steven King novel, MISERY…
by the red horde on Jul 15, 2010 5:08 AM CDT up reply actions
As a basketball fan, primarily, I can assure that I am not envious of you at all.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I'm the one who's bitter?
Or is it the guy who comes over here and says “enjoy your Orange Overlords?”
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 13, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
The sign of a good fan base
is how they support their team during the bad times not the good times. Here are some attendance numbers, records and years associated with them at KSU home games.
2003 47109 11-4
2004 48204 4-7
2005 45961 5-6
2006 46693 7-6
2007 47382 5-7
2008 45189 5-7
2009 45918 6-6
There’s a little bit of variance, but for the most part, Snyder Family Stadium is consistently almost sold out (90%+ capacity) through the good times and bad times (capacity is listed at 50,000).
Therefore, KSU fans should be proud of themselves for supporting their team through good times and bad times.
True...
And any refrences to attendance pre-Bill Snyder era really shouldn’t count b/c 15-20,000 really was quite possibly too high for the teams predating that. Hell 25,000 could be considered a sellout for those years I’d think.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
The numbers are average per game.
The numbers are average per game.
by Aaron Musfeldt on Jul 13, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The sign of a great fan base
03 77754 10-3
04 77692 5-6
05 77485 8-4
06 85044 9-5
07 84501 5-7
08 85070 9-4
09 85888 10-4
KSU math majors
And by this simple math, numbers show that even at the height of these years listed, ksu STILL is unable to sell out every game. Thank God the Huskers would travel to that craphole manhattan (I was in Ft Riley for 2 years) so every other year the stadium CAN have a sell out.
GO BIG RED!
Amen from a Buckeye living in Nebraska
TB’s blog post is right on! Nebraska fans will have some adjusting to do when they find out that their “traveling well” won’t mean squat in Big Ten stadiums. NU will get 7-10,000 tickets, and if they don’t use them all, there will be plenty of home team fans who normally can’t get into a game that will fill those seats. I can’t wait for NU to face a “white out” in Beaver Stadium, to play the Big House and the Shoe. They’d better find an offense before they start Big Ten play, because the stout defenses will have them for lunch.
That being said. Nebraska will be a good addition to the Big Ten. Their women’s sports and football teams will be competitive right away. The Big Ten will also be good for Nebraska where the academic standards of their peers and Research 1 status will motivate Nebraska to reach higher.
Nebraska will use every last one of those tickets.
And their fans will buy any tickets they can get from your fans. Seriously. If the tickets are available, they’ll “Red Out” Happy Valley. Every time K-State hosts NU in anything, there is a campaign to “Keep the Red Out” and it never is as successful as hoped.
Please Nebraska fans... keep commenting!
Your blurbs only help the cause. I don’t remember any campaign on “keeping the red out” ever. However, let’s say hypothetically there was… would it be because Nebraska fans are so amazingly awesome and super incredible that we fear the sight of overalls, cornheads, and that gay looking lil’ Herbie (http://bigrednetwork.com/archives/2008/10/battle_of_the_idiotic_mascots.html) or just because no one ever wants the other team to have any of their opposing fans present.
I'm not a Nebraska fan.
I’m just a K-State fan who has seen how they operate. They DO travel remarkably well. They will bring a big crowd to Ahearn for volleyball. Not that there’s anything wrong with volleyball; I love watching college volleyball, but that’s a whole different subject.
Yeah AMS is a K-Stater
and “keep the red out” is a real thing. I think I have two shirts (one volleyball and one football) that have that slogan on them.
I certainly don’t have any that have anything to do with the basketball team…
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Nothing Gay about KSU
Power Towels anyone?
1985
Huskers at k state. 40,000 seat stadium……39,000 in red (I was one).
Where was all that ksu support when the team sucked more than it does presently? It wasn’t there and once the program goes back down the toilet, it will wane again.
So wait let me get this straight...
The prevailing theme I’ve noticed is because Nebraska had success in the past they will always be loyal, but since K-State recently found some success on the field we won’t stay true. Makes a lot of sense.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
his point is that the fans weren’t there when you guys sucked is all, I don’t know if the point is relevant though. Nebraska hasn’t ever sucked hard enough to really really truly test our fans loyalty. All but two years of our “downturn” we’ve gone to a bowl game and we’ve actually won most of them, additionally during our “downturn” we’ve been to the Big XII championship game twice. I wonder if Nebraska had an Iowa State like record for around ten years if we’d still sell out our stadium or if some other team could invade us like we make a habit of doing. Chances are though that the school and the fans just wouldn’t tolerate those kind of records long enough to allow that sort of experiment to go forward. There is to much money to be made by a winning Nebraska team.
Yeah but couldn't you say that...
about Notre Dame back in the day? How long have they sucked now?
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
They’ve had a rough run of it lately certainly, but they haven’t been completely irrelevant since the won their last national title. They have had a persistent hard time, but you’ll notice that they are still firing coaches and they are still trying to get better. Even if Nebraska’s downturn persisted through 2020, you can bet that they wouldn’t be as consistently bad as programs such as Vanderbilt, Iowa State, Baylor or say Minnesota, you certainly can’t say that Notre Dame has been as bad as those programs and I doubt that the fans or the insistence on excellence would go any where either. After all, Nebraska is a good ol’ midwestern teams, the fans tuck tale and run like USC fans.
Survey Says...........
All time head to head football record
Nebraska 76
KSU 15
2 ties. Yeah, we’re pretty proud of our football team and I’m sure you guys like yours too. Whatever, let’s just settle it on the field. See you in October! Go Big Red!
For some reason...
I think that it will be slightly more successful this season, just for obvious reasons. Unless some traitor realizes how much money it will be worth.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Don't see that happening in the horseshoe or bighouse
There are lines of fans just waiting for a chance to get football tickets even to the pre-conference games. If Nebraska fans are going to be getting tickets to games against OSU and Michigan they better have deep pockets because they will be paying $200+ for tickets. Highest priced regular season tickets in Texas was when Ohio State came to town. Some Ohio State/Michigan tickets scalp for over $500 each. In Columbus, Ohio the Buckeyes are their pro team just like Cornhuskers in Nebraska. I do not doubt their fans will take their alotment of tickets at these games but these Big Ten school have fan bases larger than Nebraska and they only had a couple teams in the big-12 like that. How many Nebraska fans got tickets when they played Texas (I honestly don’t know) but I’ve been to big-12 games at Colorado and they don’t even compare to Big-10 games at Ohio State, granted Nebraska may be different.
As a Northwestern Fan I welcome Big Red to Evanston
We can’t fill our own stadium (we’re small school with a spread out alumni base) and for most conference games we have Ryan Field filled more than half with the visiting team’s fans. I think that UN fans would enjoy a weekend trip to Chicago (Evanston is a quick CTA ride north).
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jul 14, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
What’s UN? ;) We call ourselves NU as well there guy. Not that I think many people would care if we switched it. I think it would be brilliant if we could get an trophy game going between our schools. Call it the acronym trophy and whoever wins it gets to refer to their school as NU until the next meeting. For us we’d have to refer to ourselves as UNL if we lost and you guys could be NWU or something. No one would actually pay attention to the rule, but it would be fun anyway.
Go have sex with Big Ten fans on another blog, dude.
Nobody here cares.
by BracketCat on Jul 15, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A correction on the story by the writer…The injury to NU QB Zac Lee was not post season, he had that injury all season, he just didn’t mention it to the public until the season was over because he was the only experienced QB, hence our lack of offense and therefore conservative offensive play. He just let it out on the AZ game because it was the last of the season, and there was nothing to lose. Do just a little more research when you bash an entire program, its state, and people. That’s all i ask, thanks.
I didn't say he got hurt...
…in the postseason. I said he had surgery in the offseason. The point still stands even though he was hurt all year. You’re expecting a guy to just snap back from shoulder surgery and be fine. I can think of two recent Big 12 QBs who had shoulder surgery and never really recovered: Stephen McGee and Dylan Meier (God rest his soul).
I’ll ask that you read a little more closely before making a snotty remark next time, thanks.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 13, 2010 9:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Except it wasn't his shoulder...
…it was his flexor tendon in the lower arm…
by Husker Mike on Jul 13, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the info...
…does that change the prognosis? Is that easier to recover from? Is it something he’s likely to reinjure? Is Zac Lee that great of a quarterback when he’s not hurt?
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
I guess
we’re going to find that out this season.
He did continually under throw long balls to Niles Paul, though, and you had to wonder if that was because of the injury.
I think just about everybody knows (well, everybody who’s following Nebraska) that Zac Lee’s play will be a major factor in how we do this season.
It’s july. Everyone is a national title contender. yay!
Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by Jon Johnston on Jul 14, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
writer of snotty column doesn't like snotty remark
classic!
by victorErojo on Jul 14, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I won't pretend to know everything,
but I feel confident that “Humor” (as this article is classified and has been since posting) is a super-majority ‘snotty’ on the whole.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Stop using logic. That detracts from the humor of people getting their britches in a wad.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
*zzzzzzzzzzip* (lips no sealed)
I will admit that the comments have me laughing at least as much (no offense to the OP) as TB’s writing!
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
McGee did okay
was healthy enough to get drafted
as far as ‘recovery’ goes, I don’t know, Fran was afraid to let him throw the ball around too much, looks like an aerial circus and stuff, ya know
Cliff Notes Version: Nebraska fans are dicks. But they clap at you in a condescending fashion, therefore, they don't think they're dicks. But they are.
Good post. Rec’d.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 13, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Yea and by you calling us dicks that would make you aaaaa……….
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys are right
Things have changed. Cornhusker fans are just like everyone else. But they’ve been told that they are better. That used to mean showing good sportsmanship and all of that. Now, for some reason, its something they hold over others. I don’t understand it and it embarrasses me every time a Cornhusker fan boasts about being “the greatest fans.” Why not just act in a manner that proves it instead of opening your mouth and proving that sentiment wrong.
I love the Nebraska Cornhuskers and i hope they win every game. A conference foe is always a worthy opponent. They have a chance to win any game, no matter what the overall record is. Why not treat that team (and their fans) as worthy opponents?
The final statement in this article hits the nail right on the head and as a Cornhusker fan, I’m not afraid to admit that. Nebraska fans should take a look in the mirror and realize that they are just like every other fan of every other school and get over themselves.
by mannpt on Jul 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
i still
hate the “Greatest Fans” signs on the stadium. Steve Pederson put them up, but he was all about arrogance. I would have thought that Osborne would take them down.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
Twitter!
cornnation@gmail.com
by Jon Johnston on Jul 14, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, hold on a sec
Yeah, Nebraska fans can be pompous and tend to have a holier-than-thou attitudes. But lets compare that to the alternative. Would you rather we threw cups of urine at opposing fans (Colorado), or perhaps spit on opposing fans (Mizzou)?
And I’m sorry, I just cannot get over the fact that a K-State blogger is ridiculing Nebraska for being a boring place to live. Have any of you been to Manhattan? The “Little Apple” wouldn’t exist without K-State. Half of its population (50,000) is K-State students. And let’s see, what can you do in Manhattan? Well, you can go to Aggieville and drink. And you can, uh, um, well, you can go down to Aggieville and get drunk. And touting Columbia as an exciting place? Really?
Oh and here’s a link to an aggregate poll of five major pre-season magazines:
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/23059380?tag=coverlist;coverlist_footer
Seems it’s not just the Husker fans that are high on Nebraska this upcoming season.
Hey! There's lots of other places to get drunk in Manhattan besides Aggieville.
Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!
See that's interesting
At Columbia this last season, I was handing out beers to Husker fans and inviting them under my tent, because it was a monsoon. Only to have one of a group, scream insults at my wife, dump the beer on the ground, push me….and storm off. Yelling GO BIG RED the entire time.
Lincoln is just like any other college town, big or small.
No fans are better than any other, and no fans are worse than any other.
No fans should ever have a title; Best Fans of ___________! That is a perpetual lie that the national media loves to point out, which only undermines the possibility of opposing fans to actually get along. It sets up a cast system, and is complete crap.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 14, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
so
had my tires slashed at a KU game, got surrounded by a bunch of MU fans in columbia WITH my daughter holding my hand after that huge loss…..have fun getting the shaft from UT for five more years when they dump your arse for a better league. A story is a story and your gonna believe mine or you won’t…..How many Husker bloggers post this kind of crap about your school, not many.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
pump the breaks there turbo
Sure we all have stories. That wasn’t my point.
No fans are better than any other, no fans are worse than any other. No fans should ever have a title; Best Fans of _______________.
How many Husker bloggers post this kind of crap about your school, not many.
So wait? What? Even Husker bloggers are better than ______________ (fill in blank)
Wow
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 14, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My first grade teachers...
Had beerbottles thrown at her car the night of the 1998 game while in Lincoln(Maybe just random but seems not, she did afterall have a Kansas license plate) and the 2nd part fairly proves that it probably wasn’t just some hooligan since it happened again when KU beat nebraska for the first time in whenever a few years ago(again Kansas license plate-thou this time with her KU sticker up) so don’t pretend that it happens just from other schools to Nebraska.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
I try
To make it to one away game a year. I’ve been to Colorado, Manhattan, Lawrence, and Columbia and I was at the Big 12 game last year. Other than Colorado the bad experiences that I’ve had at each place was an isolated incident walking back to our car in Columbia. Beyond that we had a great experience at the game and during our stay. In Manhattan I made a casual comment to my buddy while we were standing in line for the pisser about not having a beer in my hand and a KSU fan gets out of line, goes to his tailgate location and gets me a beer and brings it to me. I can’t say anything like that happened in Lawrence, but I would go again if we were to play there ever again. We all need to face the facts that while Nebraska fans come across as arrogant (which we are to an extent) success breeds that. I wouldn’t ever go toe to toe with a KU fan to defend our basketball team…we stink. I would hope to see improvement because when you’re bad its always about next year, but if we don’t improve…then there’s always next year. My point is Bad, Good, or Great fans are always going to have the rotten eggs. I attended a CU / NU game at memorial stadium four or five years ago and there was a couple there that had a son playing for NU and a son playing for CU so one parent had NU garb on and the other had CU garb on…the student section was right next to our section and the verbal abuse that this guy was putting up with was embarrassing. The greatest fans in college football wouldn’t say things like that. We’re great fans most of the time, good fans some of the time, and bad fans once in awhile, we’re passionate, we travel, we’re fairly well educated on the game, we keep track of what other teams are doing and I would hope that most teams leave Lincoln with a decent experience. I don’t necessarily enjoy the tone of the article, but let them talk. If they don’t think we’re the greatest fans in college football its probably because they had a run in with the jackass that was yelling at the CU fan. I still have high hopes…that’s what college football is about. Yeah we’ve got a dinged up starting quarterback, but we’ve got a healthy, deep offensive line. We have some inexperienced safeties, but we’ve dynamite corners, and yes we’ve got a coach that tends to put on a show on the sidelines but the kids eat it up and they play ball for that guy. I excited for the upcoming season, win, lose or draw…I’m headed to College Station and heard its absolutely nuts down there and I’m jacked. Can’t wait…and since it’ll basically be like the arctic tundra up here (like one poster pointed out previously) being that close to the gulf will be a welcome change. GBR!
by MikesHuskers on Jul 14, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank You
Well put, well said, couldn’t agree more.
This article and comments here just demonstrates that folks will see what they want to see.
1) We applaud the other team, win or lose, and Husker Haters can only interpret that as an insincere ploy to pat ourselves on the back
2) We are proud of our team, and support them in huge numbers through thick and thin, and Husker Haters can only understand that by claiming we must have nothing better to do.
3) We travel all over in large numbers to watch our team play and the haters only interpretation is that we are so bored that we can’t wait to get out of Nebraska.
4) Haters equate Huskers’ high expectations with irrationality. High expectations are what drive high achievement. What if the Marines had a slogan that was “Whoever, whatever” instead of “The few, the proud”? What if “In Search of Excellence” was “In Search of OK?” Yeah, we have high expectations every year, even when we understand they are unrealistic. We do expect to win every game. We do expect to win the conference title every year. And we do expect to win a national championship every year. Whats wrong with not settling for mediocrity?
I thought the Widlcats color was purple, not bright green. Reading these comments I would have to say this vilification of a nationally bestowed (not self bestowed) honor is nothing more than bitter envy.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sorry to hear that someone representing NU acted in that manner. Being 26, this fall will be my 21st consecutive season to be at least one home game at Memorial Stadium. I always felt blessed as my grandparents tickets were close to the visitor’s section. I was told by Virginia Tech, Central Florida, Oklahoma, Texas,Southern Miss. etc. fans that they appreciated our hospitality and warm invitations extended throughout their visit to Nebraska. Unfortunately, some of those were losses. Va Tech, Southern Miss, and Texas when I was there. I’m truly sorry for your experience, but as a whole Nebraska is a good fan base. Every university has their screwballs and for ours, I apologize. I love my Huskers, but I also love college football. From a youngster being able to talk football with the visitors, to growing up and being able to do the same over a beer. College football and the camaraderie developed among the fellow team, let alone the opponent is what makes it so special. I hope your next interaction with Huskers, regardless of your fandom is a better experience. On behalf of the majority of the cordial Cornhusker faithful……good luck to your team and I hope we can drink some beer this fall.
ah, the apocryphal 'MU fans are scum of the earth' argument
Knew we would get there eventually. Nothing classier than trashing the crap out of another fanbase. Hey, Dr. Tom can blame MU, CU and UT for breaking up the B12 with Jim Delany standing behind him, it must be classy!
Interesting how we hear this from only NU fans. Funny how we suddenly were the lowest of the low after we beat the snot out of NU a few times.
Question- were the classiest fans in college football doing the golf clap after the ISU game last year? How about after the 52-17 beatdown two seasons back? How about the B12 championship?
Some images of NU fans at the end of those games didn’t exactly scream ‘class’. There was screaming, certainly, just not of that sort.
And don’t discount that many writers probably don’t want endless hate mail by ‘insulting’ your easily bothered fanbase.
I believe it was you
Who is hurling insults???….if I punch your girlfriend and call her a bitch are you just gonna stand there and go “well ya, you were being kind of a bitch.”
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't wait to see the Husker nation meet the Buckeyes.
Should make this whole blow up seem like child’s play. Wait until these two fanatical fanbases go tit for tat. Should make for great theater.
And great post, btw
Very, very true. And we will see it proved out through what expects to be a very ugly (and bet much of the ugliness comes from the GBR direction) farewell tour.
Too many idiots on this site
I know what you’re think, “one more” but after reading some of the crap people posted, I couldn’t help but waste my time creating a profile.
First of all, I love that KSU and MU have nothing better to write/blog about in the off season than the behavior of Nebraska fans. And yes, of course you’re going to get a response from us after reading such dribble so don’t act surprised that we’re on here.
There are no 2 fan bases in the Big XII that are more pathetic, bitter or narrow-minded. I understand being Nebraska’s doormat for all these years has left a bad taste in your mouths. The difference is, it was never rubbed in your face as your “fans” like to do after they finally won a few against Nebraska in our down years.
Your schools will never match the tradition, passion and excellence that Nebraska has. Case in point, the invitation to the Big X. MU or KSU wouldn’t think twice about accepting the invitation if it were extended to them (sorry MU that you never got one even though you thought it was in the bag but live with it). Nebraska received one because we ARE a big time program, with tradition, and championships, AND a great fan base.
Anyone wonder why Mizzou gets snubbed during bowl selection and Nebraska usually gets looked at first? I’ll spell it out for you ECONOMICS. We support our team, travel well, and generally are well behaved (I am the lone exception).
And to the MORON that posted Nebraska has nothing but football (muwxman), maybe you should check the results of last year’s Directors Cup. Here’s the link to the Big XII results in case you’re too stupid to know how to run a search on Google: http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=204965475
Nebraska #17. Mizzou # 49, KSU #123.
We’re proud of our athletics, our state, and anyone that has been to Lincoln will vouch for our hospitality. Since neither school/team knows what it’s like to be champion, you don’t know how to behave like one when you win (or lose). Pay attention and take some notes, because the lesson ends after this year.
Nobody blames you for liking Nebraska....
but we do blame you for being a dick.
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh God Yes
that was funny
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
I know what you're think too!
We is soul mates?
by Texas Wahoo on Jul 14, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read that...
and almost peed my pants.
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Just to be clear, is the lesson ending this year because you won't be winning any more championships? It seems to me that the lesson ended in 2000.
“We’re proud of our athletics, our state, and anyone that has been to Lincoln will vouch for our hospitality. Since neither school/team knows what it’s like to be champion, you don’t know how to behave like one when you win (or lose). Pay attention and take some notes, because the lesson ends after this year.”
by Texas Wahoo on Jul 14, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Make sure you all attend the "Arrogance" seminar
Texas fans calling out….well….anyone really about winning and losing with class, interesting
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What? I didn't call anyone out for their "class." I think arguing about who has more "class" is completely useless.
I just noted that Nebraska has not won anything at all in about a decade. Thus, I find your argument that other fanbases need to learn how to win with class from Nebraska fans a little odd.
by Texas Wahoo on Jul 14, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We don't do well in the Director's Cup because we lose points for not having a ping-pong team
We don’t carry the full gamut of sports because it’s stupid to do so. It’s a waste of money to have swimming teams, wrestling teams, gymnastics teams, etc.
The Director’s Cup is the only reason why people field a bunch of teams no one gives a crap about.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously?
Or is the Holden Caulfield defense?
Competitive swimming and modern gymnastics have existed since the beginning of the 19th century. Wrestling was mentioned in the Iliad. These sports have existed long before creation of the current revenue producers of football and basketball. Not everybody can or wants to play football and basketball, and it is useful, valuable and important to carry non-revenue sports to meet the needs of a diverse student body.
I am sorry that KSU’s athletic department can only afford to support 14 varsity teams (one of the smallest slate of teams of any BCS University). Maybe when KSU can consistently sell out that 52,200 seat football stadium, you can bring a few more money “wasting” programs on board.
As for now with your tiny endowment and tiny athletic department your statement just sounds provincial and especially small minded.
Try being...
…a BCS university in a small-population state where the largest in-state city is Wichita and there are two BCS-level universities, and then come tell us how many sports your athletic department can support. We don’t give a damn how many sports schools with 40,000 or 50,000 students in states with 5-10 million residents can support. We’re a 23,000 student university in a state with less than three million people, so sorry if we’re not going to throw money at gymnastics and bowling teams when we could invest it in the sports that actually make us money. If you can’t understand the economics of that, then I’m not sure I can do anything to cure your ignorance.
You clearly aren’t thinking like an athletic director here. I don’t care how old the sport is or whether it was mentioned in the Iliad. I care how much it’s going to cost us to build facilities, pay for scholarships, pay for coaches, pay for travel, and pay for any other associated expenses. Having some non-revenue sports is obviously essential, because you have to have a certain number of athletic teams to meet Title IX requirements and maintain Division I status. That said, the number of teams you field is directly tied to your AD’s revenue-generating potential, and at K-State we don’t have the resources for those other sports. Hell, I’m just happy that we’ve held on to baseball when conference schools like ISU and CU have dropped it.
In short, if fans of big schools want to brag to us about their Director’s Cup standing, then so be it. But pardon us if we’re a little nonplussed.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 16, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And as an addition...
…I realize that Nebraska is a relatively small-population school in a very small population state, so I think that, relative to other schools (like your beloved Spartans), their success in the Director’s Cup is pretty impressive. It helps that they are the only school in a state where everyone is indoctrinated from an early age to be a Husker devotee, and being able to sell out an 80,000 seat stadium for football obviously helps. But the point remains the same. It doesn’t make any financial sense for K-State to spend money on all those sports, and given the reality that teams who can’t field a ton of revenue sports can’t compete in the Director’s Cup, it’s not something that’s high on my radar.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 16, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
As an addition to your addition...
This is why there is a healthy club sport culture at Kansas State where students can compete in sports like Men’s Soccer, Lacrosse, Men’s Tennis, Women’s Soccer, etc. against other regional universities…and it doesn’t cost the AD a dime.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The lesson ends this year because
In case you were living under a rock, Nebraska is leaving the “not so Big” and “not really” XII conference. You won’t have to worry about the 1dissenting vote (the other 9 teams will continue to kiss Texas’ ass) and you won’t have to worry about politics determining the addition of an extra second on the clock of a championship game because you don’t have enough teams to have one now.
In case you're too stupid to figure out how to reply to a comment
there is a bolded purple word called “reply” underneath every comment. Use it.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Does it matter?
Got the point across either way. It’s still posted.
and still does a great job of proving their initial point
which clearly went way over your head. Or was convienently ignored, which is classic ‘GBR… GBR, dammit! shut up, GBR!!!’
you sound like your in highschool
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
You write like you're in elementary school
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait didn't you vote with them on unequal revenue sharing...
When we voted against that….when you were good at football you know.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
This is funny:
you won’t have to worry about politics determining the addition of an extra second on the clock of a championship game
Bitter much? And wouldn’t it have been preferable—politically, that is—for the Big XII to have had TWO teams in the BCS? I mean, considering BCS money is distributed evenly among the schools, and all.
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast!
I think tigertiger killed a Nebraska guy!
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by mystman995 on Jul 14, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
And one more Anchorman reference...
I’m pretty sure you could substitute Nebraska for Ron Burgundy and the rest of us for Veronica Corningstone…
Ron Burgundy: I don’t know how to put this but I’m kind of a big deal.
Veronica Corningstone: Really.
Ron Burgundy: People know me.
Veronica Corningstone: Well, I’m very happy for you.
Ron Burgundy: I’m very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
You've got it all wrong
When Ron leaves the whole place falls apart and the bitch (Texas) starts running the show. This leaves Champ(ISU) Brian Fontana(MU) and Brick(KSU) in quite a pickle
Can ISU be Brick?
I’d sleep better that way..
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
What?
I thought they continued their ratings dominance, it didn’t fall apart until a certain dick of a Public News anchor(also Nebraska) pushed Veronica Corningstone(the rest of the big 5 you’ve been with for over a hundred years) into the bear cage.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
sorry
I generally try to only wound….
Suppose I didn’t exactly calm the fair fanbase down. Damn Irish ancestry.
More than anything I feel sorry for Nebraska...
90% of their fans wear rose colored glasses and have little or no ability to listen to logic. At least if you ask a Kstate fan “Was your basketball team good before Huggins?” they will respond accurately that we sucked for a while before that. Listen to Huskertalk radio and they are expecting a national championship in football and “success” in basketball. Seriously? They also would hardly mention Kstate’s basketball games last year on the scoreboard report. No bitterness there. And I can’t believe no one mentioned the fact that the football coach for the team with the best fans called our coach an a**hole….now that’s CLASSY! They are too stupid and/or blind to see that their constant arrogance proves the exact points TB makes.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
That's because...
Your coach IS an asshole. We’re not arrogant, we just know we’re better than you. W 77, L 15, T 2
Points for: 2,587, Points against: 986. Maybe you can join the MAC or MWC after the Big 12(minus 2) goes belly up. Pile up a few conference titles in both basketball and football, then have something to brag about. Til then get in the backseat where you belong.
Snyder is an asshole for beating you fare and square??
Guess there’s no logic with imbeciles
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
I know....
I’ve tried posting logic on here, raw data, irrefutable numbers, and it doesn’t get through the thick purple skulls, imbeciles, as it were. He was an asshole because with what, 1 minute left in the game he still had starters in, in a game well decided, trampling our 3rd and 4th stringers, senior walk-ons and such. Just to punch a few more points up onto the board. When we hung 50, 60, 70 on you ladies, we were well at the end of the bench getting playing time for our guys. Unwritten rules, codes of honor, etc, foreign things to a program not familiar with winning a whole lot, let alone winning big.
"Lawrence needs football in his life."
I love the fact that Phillips got to play in Osborne’s NC game after he drug a girl (from my hometown no less) down a flight of stairs…by her hair.
So, you know, Tom Osborne is an asshole in my eyes.
Also, he hates porn, and I don’t trust a man that hates porn.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
halfway…. It’s troubling the man doesn’t like porn, but what are ya gonna do.
LP, yeah he turned out to be the second coming of the devil. Osborne tried to help the idiot, sent him to anger management, did all sorts of shit, above and beyond. He kept screwing up afterwards in the NFL. Suppose that’s Osborne’s fault too. We (sorry, NEBRASKA) could’ve brought LP back sooner, for say, the supposed big game vs. CU, but we (doh, THEY) didn’t. He played vs. ISU and then yeah he was in the NC game. He had a good game, but anyone thinking that WE needed him to beat Florida is delusional. Score may have been what, 48-26 without him, at worst?
Ahman Green was the back up to LP
Nebraska didn’t need LP to win the national championship. Dr Tom was trying to do the whole Father Flanagan thing by reforming the wayward lad. You can criticize the decision, but the claim that Osborne sold out his principles to win is just ludicrous on the face of it. By the way, LP skipped his senior year in part because he probably would have sat behind Green the following year.
A researcher's quandary
I would write something snotty about K-State fans, but there’s not a big enough sample from which to draw conclusions.
It's quandry...
The misspelling of which leads me to conclude you wouldn’t know a proper sample size from a shoe size.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
I stand corrected.
I’ll get back with you all once I get this size 18 foot out of my mouth…
>.<
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Pompous A-hole
definition…..you
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure that pompous A-hole
encompasses a person that admitted to their mistake and tossed in a follow-up jestful-jab at themselves. I’ll leave it at “to each their own” then.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
way to take the high road.... after tossing a bunch of insults
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
The high road is a great way to go… I plan on giving it a try more often in the future.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
I wouldn't worry too much about dilldo...
He seems to be in a roid rage right now. I feel sorry for his keyboard.
Okay
This blog started with negative comments and was then followed by a bunch of people who agreed….all ten of you I think. NU fans think they are….(insert anything negative here)__________. Next, toss in some humor that was in “jest” and last throw in a bunch of you can’t spell/grammar comments to prove you’re better than everyone else or to prove someone is somehow worse than you.
Have a great afternoon everyone….what a colossal waste of time
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow someone...
is really seeing red…he did make a good natured jest at himself. In case you were wondering what a jest at yourself means.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Wow
And to think some of the vitriol by folks would have been tempered by the obvious “Humor” tag on the post at the top.
Jeez, people.
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by D-Sing on Jul 14, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
As a Nebraska fan now living in Minneapolis I thought the post was actually pretty funny and, for the most part, pretty accurate.
Hopefully there’s enough room for another “team with fans who better than you” in a conference that is already full of them.
by GBR918 on Jul 14, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ding ding ding!!!
I kinda laughed reading the whole post.
And I agree with Jon Johnston above… The “Greatest Fans” signs need to go. It’d be one thing if K-State or Missouri or Texas gave them to us and said “Put this in front of your stadium,” but that’s not the case.
by Husker_in_KC on Jul 14, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed. Lighten up, Husker fans. Don't you realize you're proving their point?
Rule of thumb: If they just signed up for SB Nation to comment on this article, they’re probably more in the ‘moronic, defensive troll’ category than anything else. Every fan base has got ’em.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 14, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think people didn't notice that this was filed under 'Humor'
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
farewell tour
I already have 4 tix to the game in Manhattan! It will be fun to see all that red in Manhattan one last time
For the most part, I think this post is pretty spot-on.
As a transplanted Husker fan, I’ve always viewed Husker fans as being a lot like St. Louis Cardinal fans: Somewhere along the line, they got tagged with the “Best Fans in the Sport” label, and they’re going to hold that reputation over your head at every single opportunity. Cardinals fans drive me insane for that reason, and I can totally understand why Huskers would drive others crazy, too.
That being said, the idea that Husker fans are no different than anyone else is patently false. The same goes for the idea that no fanbase is any better or worse than any other. The gameday atmosphere in, say, Baton Rouge is inarguably better than that of Northwestern, and to say that is not to insult Northwestern fans; it’s just a fact.
I’ve lived a bunch of different places, and I can honestly tell you that Nebraska fans are truly different. They’re more devoted (or obsessive), more proud of their team (or arrogant), more emotionally attached to their team (or unstable) than any other fanbase I’ve seen in any sport. So does that make them better than other teams’ fans? Hell no (though a lot of them might think so). But it does make them unique, which, love ‘em or hate ’em, is something that shouldn’t just be ignored.
Okay, I'll do my best to keep my feet on the ground
and mouth nowhere close to them…
Speaking for myself (and thinking it might be representative of many who follow BOTC), I agree with you and would add that “different” and “better” are not interchangeable terms. All fanbases are different – has to be that way in the same manner that any two people are different (in some way) and fanbases are just groups of people. Better or worse is really up to the person forming an opinion. Therefore, I say let any fanbase choosing to proclaim themselves better do so, at the risk/cost of dealing a great blow the the claim itself. How many products/consumables/etc in the world are considered awesome by a person/people based on the word/opinion of someone else and not trying the product/item (given that the trying it may be in response to the opinions being thrown down)?
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Agreed.
In the end, we’re talking about something that’s totally subjective – who gets to decide what makes a fanbase better than another? Is it about size? Knowledge? Civility? It’s all in the eye of the beholder. You could hammer out some fairly agreeable criteria and make some judgments from there, but that would kind of be ridiculous, since it’s so self-evident that the entire nature of fandom is subjective.
Given that, then, it’s kind of interesting that we constantly hear people talking about how their fans are “the best in the world.” Seems we as fans love being told we’re the best and proclaiming ourselves the best, when it’s one of the things in life that least lends itself to objective determination of who’s best.
In the end, I think proclaiming yourself “The Best Fans in College Football” is like buying yourself a mug that says “World’s Best Boss.”
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 14, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
*trashes favorite mug on desk at the office*
I have a solution…
“World’s Worst Fans!” T-shirts for all members of any fanbase! :-D
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
Well "Worst Fans" can be objective
by the number of times your student section gets kicked out of the stadium, throws batteries, using laser pointers to distract opposing QB’s, etc.
That shirt clearly is already on the backs of a certain school…
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
good one
Before If this is what KSU and MU fans have, degrading the NU fan base. I take it as a compliment, see you on the football field for the NU goodbye tour, don’t let the door hit you on our way out. But I’m curious wildcat and tiger fans, how does it feel to know that the word CHAMPION will NEVER be next to your football teams name EVER again because the north is no longer? KSU and MU forever #’s 3 thru 10. Man that has to suck really bad. Enjoy your mediocre existence. And MU, hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Dumped by the Big10 before you even got to the alter. Tehehehehe!
I'm sorry gbr, but commas and periods are not interchangable.
I know this is just a blog comment, but that is barely legible.
you schmuck
My mistake, was typing on my phone, n.ow th,at I a.m able. to us,e my la.ptop, why don’t you comme,nt on .the sub,stance! If I h.ad not,hing to say .then I wo,uld ha.ve said th,e sam.e thin,g you. did also.
don’t let the door hit you on our way out
Why would any other school be standing next to the swinging door?
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
"Champion" will never be associated with K-State?
Last I checked, we’ve won a conference championship more recently than has Nebraska.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Congrats, I bet in 50 years when you are still shining that 1 conference championship you will still be as proud of it. Fact is with no conference championship, no north division champion, you have lived your glory, hope it was good.
Sooooo
If NU fans are moronic for coming on here and defending themselves, then what does that make UT, MU, and any fan other than a KSU fan that is on here?
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions
I come here quite often because I enjoy reading the article this blog puts out.
They are often either thought provoking or humorous. This article was humorous. It was only luck that a couple of Nebraska fans decided to humor me further.
Dude....
take some aspirin before you give yourself a heart attach.
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
attack...not attach...although
that sounds pretty rad
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Nebraska fans are not acquitting themselves well in this commenting thread. The guys at Corn Nation are smarter than these folks, honest!
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 14, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
winning?
Is that what you call this? You are getting more points than the Husker fans? That is HILARIOUS! You gotta win somewhere because this year it isn’t happening on the field.
I was talking the battle of wits...
gbr1? cmon now be more creative than that with the name. I can’t seriously argue with a name like that, it’s below me. I mean mine’s not good at all, but at least it doesn’t feature a number and lowercased abbreviations.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
The loser's last domain....
…ridiculing one’s internet moniker. What’s next, correcting spelling errors?
So you’re winning what? An internet post flame war. Hooray K-State! Maybe they’ll give you kids a nice crystal trophy for it….
No, we're winning because you're making total asses out of yourselves
and proving that the author’s humorous and non-serious point might actually have been correct.
The Unholy Alliance
Makes it so.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
This article is lame. Funny but lame.
As a college football fan, I could give to shakes about who are the “BEST” fans in the nation. Nebraska fans always walk away from MU, CU or KSU wishing that our fan base could be as loud as MU, CU, and KSU. I have had lit charcoal briquets thrown at me in Columbia, piss in beer cups poured on me at Colorado and an ignorant KSU fan yell at me, “Hey Nebraska fan, where’d you park your tractor?” I yelled back, “Next to yours jackhole.” I find it fun. That is why I bought a ticket to KSU for the Thursday night throwdown. College football is great because of fan arguments. Mizzou, you got us the last couple of years, I don’t deny that. I will miss it all, but fans calling out other fans is dumb because we all do stupid things. Case in point, “K-Stater fans, don’t forget your POWER TOWEL!”
After all , it's K-State !
I don’t know why all the ‘Husker fans get so excited about an article or a comment made about them. After all it’s only K-State. WTH have they ever done but wish to be as relevant.
by Better read than dead on Jul 14, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
Pretending that the past makes the future relevant is clearly a two-way street....
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Still it’s something to us. Please regale us with all the legendary K-State sports moments. I don’t think it should take too long….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iFmYxXfIiU&feature=related
here’s one you will like
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Let me guess
I bet it’s Crouch getting his head ripped off in ’98…..
Oh wait, 38-9. Yep, I was there. Shitty game. Was fighting a hangover and the flu and going on 2 hours’ sleep that day, but we stayed til the end. So that’s it? That, plus 40-30, and upsetting the supposed “Greatest Team Ever” in OU for a Big 12 title (which I loved by the way, was rooting for the Wildcats all night for that one so well done). What other gems do the ’Cats have?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS645aQt_6Y&feature=related
for your enjoyment. You asked
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Ok couldn't help it
You guys are amusing because of the fact that I’m not allowed to make fun of you back. I don’t care if I am flinging an insult or giving you a hard time for something you posted yesterday. My point is you have fans making fun of another fanbase for something that should mean nothing to you if you don’t agree with it. However, every year here you are poking fun about our so called “Greatest fans of all” crap that I for one did not bestow upon myself. I’m just like everyone else in that I support a team that I like and will shoot you crap back. We are in a conference that was held together by duct tape and bubble gum…..its always funny when your the one giving s***.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions
Come on now, I'm sure sour grapes aren't the only thing thats been in your mouth today
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
oh oh thats right
I forgot my smiley face to prove that this is all a bunch of fun
:)…there, no hard feelings right
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 14, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Normally, I would consider that a borderline comment...
…but considering that you unwittingly made fun of one of your own because you didn’t understand what he was saying, I’ll let it stand.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
At last
Been a die hard husker fan my whole life. Honestly I couldnt agree more. Just not used to hearing a wildcat actually have some sense and make some valid points. Well Done!!!
by Tye Hallowell on Jul 14, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Every school
Every school has it’s share of disrespectful, douche-bag, redneck, dumbass, and/or druken frat boy “fans”. Nebraska is no exception.
Memorial Stadium Sellouts
The thing that no one has brought up yet is that, even when Nebraska was putting up horrible records, they still sold out every single home game.
That in itself should, at the very least, signify that they have a good fanbase and aren’t just a bunch of fair weather fans.
I’m not saying that it excuses any of the CRAP that other Husker fans have posted here…there are idiots everywhere…I’m just saying that at the very least, Nebraska is proud of its tradition, proud of its heritage, and proud of its Husker football team…even when they lose.
Yeah, but apparently it is "arrogant" and "irrational" to be proud
Of a winning tradition
Of high expectations and a desire to be the best
Of achieving so much with so little
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
with so little?
Isn’t that what Snyder did when he undertook the greatest college football turnaround of all time?
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Yes, that is exactly what he did
And it was awesome to behold, but off point.
The point is Nebraska has the smallest state population of any consistently competitive big football program; even Kansas has (approximately) 1 million more residents than Nebraska. Only W Virginia comes close and they are surrounded by major population centers. We don’t have climate as TB so elegantly pointed out. And so many of you have gleefully suggested we apparently don’t have all the cultural pull a global player like Kansas or Missouri boasts. So, with comparatively so little, 5 national titles.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Kansas also has 1 more Division 1 school.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
Well, two more
but since we’re really talking football here I guess that’s a quibble.
I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.
KSUck and Misery wannabees
KSUck and Misery fans I mean c’mon. You’d be looked down upon in the B10 just as you are by Nebraska. Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Iowa, Wisconsin all would have blown your doors off in the same way Nebraska has for decades. Not only that but you are now affectionately known as part of the “Forgotten 5” from the B12 that were nearly left to be hung out to dry. The B12 South teams think of you in the same way. Wannabees is what we always call you. That’s why this huge article comes from a KSU supporter. You can’t rave about good things about your own schools so slam the ones that are successful. The B10 schools would laugh at you the same way NU fans do.
Which hurts worse?
Not getting invited at all or getting invited to the Mountain West:)
As one of those did not happen
I’ll go with the one that did happen. But only by the slimmest margin above zero-hurt.
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
If you're not even a member of your own teams SB Nation site.......
then you’re a terrorist.
by rydonmf on Jul 14, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I have to say,
I am a huge Nebraska fan but that did make me laugh. It is a little out of hand, I think a lot of us Nebraska loyalists could admit, with the engravings on the stadium and all. (That is still not nearly as detestable as the “Tebow Credo” in Florida or whatever they call it.)
Then again, I guess its easy to laugh when life is good, you know? It really makes me smile, thinking about your future position. It’s just great!
You really are bitter
I would hope that you could write a better article. As I began to read the article, I knew instantly that you are bitter towards your homestate. Sorry that Nebraska is too low-scale for you. I had that attitude when I was in my 20’s, but in a few years you will grow up. You obviously have some hate in your heart. You are also jealous too. By the way, where did you grow up in Nebraska? To everybody in the nation, K-state and all the other schools in the big 12 now look like the piglets that are suckling up the big sow named Texas. Texas manipulated all of you and tried to do it to Nebraska in order to get them more money and a better TV deal. All the Big 12 commisioner looks like now is Texas’ boy. The Big 12 will dissolve in4-5 years. Texas will become an independent. And where will K-state be then.
It’s really too bad that a blogger is given any type of credibility when he has no class. When we are bitter, we will be able to find anybody that will agree with us. This site is an example.
Sorry I had to leave such a short and to the point message, but I call them as I see them as most Nebraskan’s will do. Go Big Red!!!
It was filed under "Humor" people. Humor.
I guess some things just get lost in the wash….
by WillieWannabe on Jul 14, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Call 'em like you seen 'em?
You are pitiful. You will be making less money next year after your buyouts than any of us. Even your athletic director has voiced regret in the decision to backstab all of us and you can sit there and say we are bitter. Even many of your own fans AGREE with the article and you still make sneers about sucking Texas teat. Enjoy mediocrity and knowing you jumped ship just a little too soon….must feel really bad.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Well, you have a lot of assumptions there...
1) That NE will have to pay a buyout, or if they do, that it will be more than a token
2) That the remainders in the Texas Mess conference will actually have a better deal. No contract, no $ yet, only unproven promises from a guy who somehow was miraculously able to swing an unprecedented deal in the 11th hour with a reduced product, when he wasn’t able to manage anything near that previously.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, exactly how do I know it?
You got a photocopy of the miracle contract so that we all will know it?
Got proof that for their comparatively measly cut Texas will allow disclosure of their preemptive wheeling and dealing that would destroy their latest reincarnation as Big 12 savior?
I’m sorry, but you got nothing and everyone knows it.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Clearly, I call them as I see them, too...
…as you saw in the post.
I’m from Aurora, if that matters. It’s one of the best small towns in the country, in my opinion. Instead of rolling over and dying like a lot of little towns are, it’s progressive and looks to grow stronger through smart growth. It’s a great place to grow up. So no, I don’t hate my state, or my hometown, and for some people, it’s a perfectly fine place to be. I’m not that way. Sorry if I want to live somewhere where I don’t have to drive for hours to get to the nearest professional sporting event, or major concert, or that I want to have a wide variety of options available nearby for whatever shopping need I may have, or don’t want to eat at the same three restaurants all the time. I guess I’m funny that way. And again, I’m not saying that Nebraska is worse for all of that, but you’re deluding yourself if you really think there’s much for you to do there.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You're from Aurora?
I love that town. Great people, great attitude – a town that refuses to become irrelevant, but still maintains that small-town feel. The courthouse square and historic homes are gorgeous.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 14, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Yeah there’s a lot more to do in Manhattan, KS than there is to do in the state of Nebraska.
Record for bib overalls as some other fan spouted off above? Again, Manhattan, KS is not Manhattan, NY.
Glad KSU and MU have other sports teams? The ironic part is that Nebraska is 4th in the Big 12, 17th in the Nation for the Learfield Sports Directors’ Cup – the epitome of how good your total sports department is. Missouri is ranked 49th, below New Mexico, Iowa State, and Louisville. K-State is not in the top 50.
KSU fans are like Colorado and Mizzou fans; same as a kid who’s had his first beer. Momentarily entertaining but after a short while just an annoying moron who equates being louder with being right. Enjoy the Titanic 10 sinking ship conference jackasses. We’ll beat you like hooker who’s late with the rent money on our way out the door to bigger and better things. Hope Conference USA picks you kids up in a couple years.
the cup gives the same credit for underwater-basketweaving and marbles...
as it does football or basketball. Wake up…only football and men’s basketball matter. You are good at one and suck at the other.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Sure thing
Yeah it sure does. But our blogger here wants to rip Nebraska for having nothing besides football. Just providing a couple facts for you ladies. We’re good at one and suck at the other……. Which one is K-State good at? This year’s KSU hiccup of an NCAA bid notwithstanding, which one are they better at?
If you're really that ignorant about college basketball history...
…which, as an aside, isn’t really surprising, given that you’re a Husker fan, I won’t bother to educate you. But let’s just say that we have won three more games just last year than Nebraska has in its entire history, and that was not even close to the best team in our history.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Some
A lotta Husker fans follow our basketball team. I don’t care for B-ball so I don’t. Not ignorance, I just don’t care. You won three more games just last year than Nebraska has in its entire history? NCAA Tourney I imagine? Yay. Good for you. Gosh, I bet if your AD put that argument up, KSU would’ve landed in the Big 10 and we’d be stuck on your current ship of fools conference. KU found out the hard way how much weight greatness in college basketball carries. I feel bad for them. I don’t feel bad for you.
Again...
The intelligent NU fans (including your AD) admit is was a bad choice to go now and all you can talk about is getting in the Big 10. For a conference that thinks it’s shit don’t stink, they don’t know what they are in for when all of you show up with shit on your boots and overalls.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Must've Missed That
When Osborne admitted that it was a bad choice for us to go to the Big 10 now. Seems to me at the press conference, he said this was a decision you would want to “happen fairly quickly.” Haha, that shit on our boots and overalls will be what’s left of KSU after we stomp a mudhole in the Kitties and walk it dry. See ya on 10/7.
Yes, three more NCAA Tournament games...
…last year than NU has won in its history. Thanks for pointing out the mistake, and for highlighting the historical futility that is Nebrasketball.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
A hearty shrug...
…Nebraska basketball has sucked, forever, so what? It probably won’t get any better. Some people here care, some do not. Luckily the Big 10 saw past that, and looked at the big picture. Nebraska’s got a lot to offer, and is definitely moving up. KSU? Ah, not so much.
When did you graduate from UNL? Serious question. The calendar year would be sufficient.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Not sure why that matters
But 1999. So now what? Does that invalidate any of the information I’ve posted on this board? Curious how you try to spin this, so by all means, please continue.
I'm just saying. You say "we" own Kansas State. I assume you played?
For what it’s worth, Nebraska recruited me as an Honors student back in 1999. They even put me on a bus and sent me to Arrowhead to watch that OSU game you almost lost for free.
It was very telling that the entire recruiting video, for academics, consisted of nothing but highlights from the 94-95 National Championship football games.
It was at that point I decided I better take my academic pursuits elsewhere.
So, at least you didn’t go to Kearney or something like that. You at least attended the university, which is something most Nebraska fans didn’t do.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Why thank you
That means a great deal to me. Made my day actually. Thank you so very much.
Nice
This is the exact humor I needed to get me to the fall. Lets see if K state or Mizzou can back it up on the field. I doubt it, and we will be back here in 7 months reading about how better off the basketball in the Big XII is because Nebraska and Colorado are gone, thats right you guys, hang that hat on basketball, good luck with that!
I get that K-State is a rivalry of the Cornhuskers, and obviously when the series goes one way or another that fans tend to get upset, and I suppose that the enthusiasm and obsession with football goes further in Nebraska then it does in most places in the country. But how are you guys hurt by it really? Is there a greater commitment in Nebraska to the program by both the fans and the university? The answer has to be unqualified and in the affirmative, Nebraskans care more about the football program and invest much more in the program then Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas State, Kansas, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Baylor. Texas, Oklahoma and perhaps A&M are on equal footing in those terms. And if you don’t believe me look at the numbers! Have a look at the size of our stadium in relationship to state population compared to you guys, look at our TV ratings and PPV purchases, check back with our population and look at what you guys have going. There is just no comparison. Look at the big stadium along with the longest sell out streak in NCAA history. None of this makes your programs bad, none of this makes your programs instantly inferior, but the fact of the matter is that in Nebraska football is very important and it seems that you all are forgetting that just because we have been down for a few years, as if we should somehow lose the pride that we have in our program. Not only that since the days of the Big Six all of these other programs have judged themselves against the standards of those conferences many years of the Big Six it was Nebraska. In the Big Eight it was Nebraska and Oklahoma, Oklahoma has been restored to that position in the Big XII while Nebraska has taken something of a downturn over the last few years. Additionally, shame on you for making it sound like Nebraska doesn’t welcome the improvement of your programs, we certainly do! In the 70s and 80s the rivalry with Oklahoma is what honed the Cornhuskers skill, in the 90s the powerful programs at Colorado and Kansas State were programs that Nebraskans were proud to watch us compete against, I suppose except when your players try to rip our quarterbacks head off and then the leader of the officiating crew conveniently misses the call while looking right at the event. In recent years Texas has been a frustrating opponent who we’ve come within seconds of beating at almost every meeting, Missouri has become a team that we love to hate.
As to the point about being rude when losses occur, obviously we can’t account for everything that’s going to happen on a football weekend. There will always be drunk college students and they will most of the time behave like drunk college students, that’s great. But for the most part, Memorial stadium has remained friendly to even victorious teams and fans all through our down turn. In the 90s Ricky Williams came into Lincoln and ended a very long running home win streak in Lincoln. He received applause as he walked off the field, this has been my experience at ever Husker home loss I have had to endure, and I normally sit in the more aggressive student section. I would also like to retort that you claim that it’s easy for us to be classy when we win but it’s harder when things get competitive, that’s absolute BS. The victor sets the tone of such encounters, Nebraska has always been a classy winner, the team, the band the cheerleaders and the fans don’t taunt the representatives of the opposing team. But can you say the same thing? Bo Pelini told Bill Snyder what he thought when you guys proceeded to run up the score on us, unfortunately Bill Callahan returned the favor a few years later. But my point is that has never been a habit of Nebraska teams.
As for the backstabbing comments, Mr. Perlman and Dr. Osborne explained Nebraska’s reason for leaving in the press conference that day. Texas and Oklahoma, the other anchors of the conference in terms of revenue, would not commit their media rights to the conference. Nebraska determined that the Universities future was not secure in the conference. It’s regrettable that our traditions are ending, but in the 14 year history of the Big XII the rest of the conference has acquiesced to the every whim of the Big XII south, you have all been Texas sycophants on every issue and that is the reason that they have been able to treat the conference the way that they have. Despite all of this, Nebraska would’ve liked to stay, Nebraska fans regret that the long running game with the Jayhawks will come to an end, we’ll miss Oklahoma games DEARLY, we’ll miss the exchange of the Nebraska-Missouri Bell and we’ll miss those exciting post-thanksgiving day games against CU, I’ll even miss playing Texas and miss the opportunity turn that record around a little bit.
On Husker optimism, you have stated that the love-fest between the Big Ten and Nebraska is annoying, and it’s annoying that we have great expectations for our team. Maybe you guys should follow suit! Nebraska expects the team’s ultimate goal to be to win the National Championship EVER YEAR! Lesser goals are good to, but if we’re not working towards restoring our dynasty we are not shooting high enough. So should the fans just adopt a defeatist attitude instead? Should we wallow and complain about oh how much we’re going to suck? Maybe some other programs should do the same as us, and expect good things. As for the Big Ten, how else would you expect us to behave, we are joining a conference full of storied programs, why should we not be enthusiastic and enjoy our new conference partners, especially when there are so many obvious strong points to the move for the entire institution (remember there are colleges attached to these teams too!!)
Basically, for the preceding reasons I think that you are being silly, every team has its douchebag fans but that said I don’t think what you describe is truly representative and therefore your article comes off as ridiculous posturing.
See you guys on the football field, one last time.
If you can’t read 5 short paragraphs that is not my problem, additionally the paragraphs are well formed enough that you can get the idea of where I am coming from the first sentence of each paragraph.
Well formed?
Your first paragraph has like 57 lines in it.
I don’t know — I stopped counting somewhere in the 20s. Got better things to do with my time. Sorry you wasted all that effort.
So you have the attention span of a gnat?
If it had been a less factual, well thought out defense against the sniping here, perhaps you could have managed to spend 20 whole seconds reading it? If it had just been more snide remarks against Nebraska, perhaps you could have managed it?
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Hi, welcome to SB Nation
These collection of sites are a little different than the pay-sites you’re probably used to. These sites are run and moderated by fans for the fans. It’s a great way to express your opinions and interact with others who share your passion for whichever school or team you are a fan of. I recommend you heading over to Corn Nation and establishing yourself there before we at BOTC can really take you seriously. There are good people over there. Once you earn their trust and respect, then feel free to come back over here.
If you have a thought or an opinion that you wish to share and it is considered too long to be just a single comment, I recommend you create a fanpost so that your 300 word dissertation can be viewed as it’s own post. Comments that go on and on and on and on are considered poor blog practice. It makes you appear to be rambling, regardless of the points you are trying to make. Nobody likes a rambler.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
by mystman995 on Jul 15, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps I could have split the first paragraph and posted more economically, sorry but since this is an open site I don’t feel the need to respect anyones little “pecking order.” I have opinion, I am happy to state it and I’m not being rude.
All of that said, my points were all generally well formed and they were factually supported and cogent. I don’t think I really need to justify myself anymore then that.
Whenever you say...
“I don’t feel the need to respect anyone’s little “pecking order” or “I’m not being rude” it generally means your being rude, I’m sure you could use the Geneva Convention to defend yourself that as Ricky Bobby once did.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
By “I’m not being rude” I mean that I’m not being derogatory to your team, I’m not mocking anyone, and just because you don’t want to read anything longer then 3 sentences doesn’t mean that I can’t post it if I want. So as long as I am respectful I don’t see any reason for you guys to be pedantic about the way that I posted, and I’ll happily take as many sentences or paragraphs as is necessary to make my point. That said I have noted what you guys have to say.
That's the trouble
Even if you have a well supported, well thought out post, they’ll pick ya apart for some other b.s. reason to try and feel superior. Basically no matter how Much ya put it to ‘em, they’ll still cry foul and claim they’re better. Kinda a microcosm of their whole football program….
Uh, mystman995, your post ran kinda long
So I stopped reading after the third sentence. It was ’way to long.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic!
That is all.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
From my email...
…I received this from a Husker fan. He suggested an additional section for my post:
“We are more knowledgeable about our football team so that makes us better fans than you” They claim to know the 3rd string walk on kicker, which apparently makes them the most knowledgeable fans in all of college football. “Have you seen our preferred walk on list this year?!?!? It is STACKED!”
This guy got it. So did Jon Johnston, and Cheeseandcorn, and Husker_in_KC, and a few others (sorry if I left you out). If some of you want to deny that every word of what I wrote describes a large and very annoying part of the Husker fan base, go ahead, but be advised that you’re among those who the posters mentioned above are looking at and rolling their eyes.
To address a few of the things that have been brought up repeatedly, I’ll say this. My claim was not that Manhattan or Kansas in general has a lot to do. It has always been my position that I love K-State, and I love Manhattan, and frankly I don’t care what others think. I’ll criticized their opinion if I think they have something factually wrong, but to be perfectly honest, if you don’t like Manhattan I’d rather you just stay away rather than bitch about it. It’s you Husker fans who try to tell everyone that “There is No Place Like Nebraska” that bring the criticism upon yourselves.
The point is this: of course there is no place like Nebraska. There’s also no place like Manhattan. Or Ames. Or Columbia, Boulder, Stillwater, Norman, Lubbock, Waco, College Station or Austin. Fans are fans and there are things about every program that its partisans love. But when you cross the line into claiming “we are the greatest fans in the country” and feeling like there’s something about your program that sets it apart from — and above — others, you’re doing nothing but opening yourself up for the fall when you can’t meet that expectation.
My post was leveled at nobody in particular. Obviously, from the way some of you reacted, it’s clear that it was aimed at people like you in general. But let me say this. My dad is a Husker fan. So is my mom. So is almost my entire family. Most of them are just fans, who love their team and follow the games passionately. They don’t care about who has a “better” fanbase or whether there’s something mystical about Nebraska football that doesn’t exist elsewhere. If you ever meet them, you could really take a cue from the way they follow Nebraska.
In closing, if you really want an illustration of my point, scroll to the bottom of the page and click the Sitemeter icon. We’ve received almost 9,000 hits today, and almost all of them are from one of two Husker sites. The article got picked up, your fans saw it and said to themselves, “What’s this? Someone dares question that Nebraska is not more special than everywhere else?! The nerve!” I wish I had kept track of how many of you signed up today, just to comment on this post, and will never bother to check out an excellent Husker site like Corn Nation or will (thankfully) never come back to this site when I inevitably write something that bashes Texas or Texas A&M in the next week or month. But I should know better than to expect that, because it’s safer for so many of you to remain in the safety net of your Husker sites, where the only mention of dissent is the occasional posting like this one that is immediately and uncritically ridiculed.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
huh?
What? You STUPID Wildcat fans, know nothing about college football, so you had a coach that got lucky, it tends to happen when you spend 60 years at one place, now the old man has returned and the lackluster fan base (you) feels like you can bump your chest at the big dog of the conference because we are gladly heading to greener pastures. YOU ARE A NEVER WAS, YOUR 45 THOUSAND PERSON STADIUM IS A JOKE, go ahead and fill it minus 2 thousand when your record is 5 and 7, humor me! Only thing it says to me is you got the tickets cheap and didnt have anything else to do that day. Nebraska football and Nebraska fans are better than all of you North Schools. There I said it, commit to football, attend a few lousy bowls, and win something besides less than a handful of times against your big brother Nebraska. What does KU, KSU, MU, CU, or ISU have that Nebraska wants? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, We have a better football team, a bigger stadium, less empty seats, and we like traveling to your bodunk town outside Lincoln to watch the Red humble you, we dont even want your Basketball, we want NOTHING of yours, its you who wants what Nebraska has, if you didnt want what Nebraska has then you wouldnt be on here bashing a fan base. Really? That is what the rest of the North schools have is bashing NU fans. HAHAHAHAHA, inferiority complex at its best. Sucks to be you all!!!! See you on the field, or in your stadiums seats as you pathetic 5 try one last time to knock the big dog off the porch, it wont happen and remember 1 thing, WE OWNED ALL OF YOU!!!!
So you forget the 40-30, 38-9 and 49-10 years...damn that's owning us...moron
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
77-15-2...
2587 points for, 986 against, but hey let’s not let that get in the way of us not owning you, moron. Are you kidding me? Beating K-State and ridiculing their uneducated fans is like punching a retarded midget. Sure it’s satisfying, but at the end of the day, you’re still just punching a retarded midget. Ya take what ya can get. Throughout history KSU’s been a speedbump to us at best. Insults aside, I have no problem with your program, but when you spout off and crow like you’ve actually done something (when it’s clear you have not) then I gotta say b.s. to that. Maybe now that we’re gone you can win the North again someday.
And bashing Snyder tells everyone that you are NOT one of the intelligent NU fans
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Why not?
He built your program outta Jucos and scheduling teams that even our dearly departed Steve Pederson wouldn’t have scheduled. Don’t come after me that our non-conference was/is weak either, KSU is perenially no better in that department. Yeah you were crap. He built you into less than crap. Hooray.
HILARIOUS
I didnt read back, is the KSU fan bashing a schedule now? That is HILARIOUS because hey KSU fan, last year, when you lost to NU, was it not a make or break game for you, you had 6 wins already but were not bowl eligible because the first win was against a non division 1 opponent? So win and thats 6 wins and North Champions, lose and go home for the year with 6 wins.
You sill wildcat you, trying to pull the wool.
try again.
Nah,
I was just putting that out as a preemptive strike. You know they will, or would attack scheduling, because logic has no place here in Willy Wonka Land.
I'm really enjoying watching two Nebraska fans jerk each other off on a KSU message board. This is very typical of you.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
No more so than
The circle jerks we see outta KSU fans. Overall history, we own the MildCats. KSU fans “We beat you, 40-30, 40-30!” At least you ’cats got power towels to wipe each other off afterwards…..
Please, keep using the term "we" like you actually had a hand in this.
Out of curiosity, when did you graduate from UNL?
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Man, if I had written it myself...
…I couldn’t have better illustrated the point I was trying to make. You are worth your weight in gold, gbr1.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
Wait, gbr1 has to be a sock.
No way that is an actual NU fan. It’s like he is reading TB’s description, and following it perfectly. Amazing!
by WillieWannabe on Jul 14, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
But we have something you want very dearly
Validation
Try some logic next time
“My post was leveled at nobody in particular.” except Nebraska fans
“If you ever meet them (your family), you could really take a cue from the way they follow Nebraska” Well, please, post the rule book since your family (including you ) seems to have fan perfection all sewed up. The rest of us poor fools would really like to be the best fans in the country.
“We’ve received almost 9,000 hits today, and almost all of them are from one of two Husker sites” meaning, oh, I don’t know, that Husker fans are passionate? Doh! Big scoop! I may be just a stupid Nebraska fan, but I kinda thought you would appreciate that; isn’t the deal to get as many hits as possible? You mean you aren’t going to shill your stuff by saying “Hey, I wrote a column that got 9000 hits in one day!”
“But I should know better than to expect that, because it’s safer for so many of you to remain in the safety net of your Husker sites…” Uh, didn’t we leave the ‘safety net’ to come here and defend ourselves (and your mom, dad, and the rest of your family) against your snide slurs about NU fan character?
“…Husker sites, where the only mention of dissent is the occasional posting like this one that is immediately and uncritically ridiculed” kind of like any pro-Husker comment here is treated, starting with you?
Every blog has its trolls, every fan base has its idiots. But friend, you started this poop ball rolling downhill, so save us the spectacle of your sanctimony.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amen, and thank you.
Problem is, no one responded, and no one will, because ouch, the truth hurts. They’ll be spouting the same bile at Navy fans when they get them in the Texas Bowl at season’s end.
ya
Snyder had what record against NU? you named 3 wins KSU had, now name 75 NU had, yes children of the class today, that is OWNING!!!!
TEHEHEHEHE
NU is 77-15-2 vs KSU since 1910.
Son if that is not owning KSU then we have different definitions of owning. for every 40-30 score you put up here I can show you a 70-14 so humor me again.
OWNED!!!!!!!
ENJOY
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Series totals
W 77, L 15, T 2
Points for: 2,587
Points against: 986
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HC = NU homecoming
OT = Overtime
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yr m d - NU - OP Margin - Location - - - - AP R
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OP Att.
2009 -11- 21 W 17 - 3 14 # Lincoln | 85,998
2008 -11- 15 W 56 - 28 28 # Manhattan | 48,444
2007 -11- 10 W 73 - 31 42 # Lincoln | 84,665
2006 -10- 14 W 21 - 3 18 # Manhattan + 21 | 50,723
2005 -11- 12 W 27 - 25 02 # Lincoln | 77,761
2004 -10- 23 L 21 - 45 -24 # Manhattan | 52,234
2003 -11- 15 L 9 - 38 -29 # Lincoln 18 | 78,014
2002 -11- 16 L 13 - 49 -36 # Manhattan | 11 52,221
2001 -11- 10 W 31 - 21 10 # Lincoln 02 | 77,818
2000 -11- 11 L 28 - 29 -01 # Manhattan + 04 | 16 53,811
1999 -11- 13 W 41 - 15 26 # Lincoln 07 | 05 77,744
1998 -11- 14 L 30 - 40 -10 # Manhattan 11 | 02 44,298
1997 -10- 04 W 56 - 26 30 # Lincoln + 03 | 17 75,856
1996 -10- 05 W 39 - 3 36 # Manhattan 07 | 16 43,916
1995 -10- 21 W 49 - 25 24 # Lincoln HC 02 | 08 76,072
1994 -10- 15 W 17 - 6 11 # Manhattan 02 | 16 42,817
1993 -10- 16 W 45 - 28 17 # Lincoln HC 06 | 75,721
1992 -12- 05 W 38 - 24 14 # Tokyo ^ 11 | 50,000
1991 -10- 19 W 38 - 31 07 # Lincoln HC 09 | 76,209
1990 -10- 06 W 45 - 8 37 # Manhattan 08 | 35,757
1989 -10- 07 W 58 - 7 51 # Lincoln 04 | 76,265
1988 -10- 22 W 48 - 3 45 # Manhattan 05 | 35,000
1987 -10- 24 W 56 - 3 53 # Lincoln HC 02 | 76,106
1986 -11- 01 W 38 - 0 38 # Lincoln 09 | 75,893
1985 -11- 02 W 41 - 3 38 # Manhattan 05 | 41,200
1984 -10- 27 W 62 - 14 48 # Lincoln 04 | 76,068
1983 -10- 29 W 51 - 25 26 # Manhattan 01 | 44,150
1982 -10- 16 W 42 - 13 29 # Lincoln HC 06 | 76,268
1981 -10- 17 W 49 - 3 46 # Manhattan 19 | 45,915
1980 -11- 08 W 55 - 8 47 # Lincoln 05 | 76,121
1979 -11- 10 W 21 - 12 09 # Manhattan 02 | 43,210
1978 -10- 14 W 48 - 14 34 # Lincoln HC 08 | 75,818
1977 -10- 08 W 26 - 9 17 # Manhattan 09 | 41,100
1976 -10- 16 W 51 - 0 51 # Lincoln HC 03 | 76,150
1975 -11- 08 W 12 - 0 12 # Manhattan 03 | 41,300
1974 -11- 16 W 35 - 7 28 # Lincoln 06 | 76,188
1973 -11- 17 W 50 - 21 29 # Manhattan 10 | 42,000
1972 -11- 18 W 59 - 7 52 # Lincoln 05 | 75,079
1971 -11- 13 W 44 - 17 27 # Manhattan 01 | 42,300
1970 -11- 14 W 51 - 13 38 # Lincoln HC 04 | 20 67,894
1969 -11- 15 W 10 - 7 03 # Manhattan 17 | 40,000
1968 -11- 09 L 0 - 12 -12 # Lincoln HC | 67,466
1967 -10- 07 W 16 - 14 02 # Manhattan 07 | 20,180
1966 -10- 15 W 21 - 10 11 # Lincoln HC 06 | 64,108
1965 -10- 16 W 41 - 0 41 # Manhattan 02 | 19,660
1964 -10- 17 W 47 - 0 47 # Lincoln HC 06 | 46,056
1963 -10- 19 W 28 - 6 22 # Manhattan | 14,920
1962 -10- 20 W 26 - 6 20 # Lincoln | 30,701
1961 -10- 07 W 24 - 0 24 # Manhattan | 17,515
1960 -10- 08 W 17 - 7 10 # Lincoln | 35,102
1959 -11- 21 L 14 - 29 -15 # Manhattan | 8,318
1958 -10- 11 L 6 - 23 -17 # Lincoln | 37,596
1957 -10- 05 W 14 - 7 07 # Manhattan | 15,033
1956 -10- 13 L 7 - 10 -03 # Lincoln | 30,469
1955 -10- 01 W 16 - 0 16 # Manhattan | 12,500
1954 -10- 09 L 3 - 7 -04 # Lincoln | 34,000
1953 -10- 03 L 0 - 27 -27 # Manhattan | NA
1952 -10- 11 W 27 - 14 13 # Lincoln | 40,000
1951 -10- 06 W 1 - 0 01 # Manhattan * | 12,000
1950 -11- 11 W 49 - 21 28 # Lincoln 16 | 29,000
1949 -10- 08 W 13 - 6 07 # Manhattan | 17,000
1948 -11- 06 W 32 - 0 32 # Lincoln | 36,000
1947 -10- 25 W 14 - 7 07 # Manhattan | 17,000
1946 -10- 05 W 31 - 0 31 # Lincoln | 35,553
1945 -11- 10 W 24 - 0 24 # Manhattan | NA
1944 -11- 25 W 35 - 0 35 # Lincoln | NA
1943 -11- 06 W 13 - 7 06 # Manhattan | NA
1942 -11- 28 L 0 - 19 -19 # Lincoln | NA
1941 -11- 01 L 6 - 12 -06 # Manhattan | NA
1940 -11- 30 W 20 - 0 20 # Lincoln 08 | NA
1939 -10- 28 W 25 - 9 16 # Manhattan 10 | NA
1938 -11- 24 W 14 - 7 07 # Lincoln | NA
1937 -11- 27 W 3 - 0 03 # Manhattan 11 | NA
1936 -11- 21 W 40 - 0 40 # Lincoln 13 | NA
1935 -10- 19 T 0 - 0 00 # Manhattan | NA
1934 -11- 29 L 7 - 19 -12 # Lincoln | NA
1933 -10- 21 W 9 - 0 09 # Manhattan | NA
1932 -10- 29 W 6 - 0 06 # Lincoln HC | NA
1931 -11- 14 W 6 - 3 03 # Manhattan | NA
1930 -11- 27 L 9 - 10 -01 # Lincoln | NA
1929 -11- 23 W 10 - 6 04 # Manhattan | NA
1928 -11- 29 W 8 - 0 08 # Lincoln | NA
1927 -11- 19 W 33 - 0 33 # Manhattan | NA
1926 -11- 13 W 3 - 0 03 # Lincoln | NA
1925 -11- 14 T 0 - 0 00 # Manhattan | NA
1924 -11- 22 W 24 - 0 24 # Manhattan | NA
1923 -11- 29 W 34 - 12 22 # Lincoln | NA
1922 -11- 18 W 21 - 0 21 # Lincoln | NA
1916 -10- 14 W 14 - 0 14 # Lincoln | NA
1915 -10- 09 W 31 - 0 31 # Lincoln | NA
1914 -10- 17 W 31 - 0 31 Manhattan | NA
1913 -10- 11 W 24 - 6 18 # Lincoln | NA
1912 -10- 12 W 30 - 6 24 Lincoln | NA
1911 -10- 14 W 59 - 0 59 Lincoln | NA
hey
Look at the 68 to 97 win streak. LOL
OWNED!!!!!!
No, no NO!!
Aren’t you paying attention? They beat us near the end of the 90’s and got us a couple other times under Billy C! We don’t own anything, even though we beat ‘em 77 times to the 15 they got us. They say we’re pathetic for coming on here and defending our program? Hah, nope, pathetic is trying to prop up their half assed 2nd rate excuse of a football program against real teams like Nebraska. Ridiculous.
In all honesty
KSU is about as dangerous as a sedated Morky, and KSU fans you know it, there is nothing you can hang over the NU head except you have won a conference championship more recently then we have, records are lopsided, championships are lopsided, seated stadiums are lopsided, this blog was written so the KSU fan base can get one last jab in before the sun sets, good for you KSU fan, you have woken the masses, I for one am glad, it has been a cold winter, and LONG off season, I needed a shot of college football, not to mention some verbal beatdown, thanks….
Seriously, you guys should get your own show...
…on Comeday Central. You’re absolutely slaying me right now.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
TB you've struck a gold mine oppourtunity there...
We could call it the Cornhusker Circle Jerk and you could be the producer for making these 2 finds of fine comedic talent.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Just keep congratulating yourselves
That would be the definition of a circle jerk. Jeez, never have I witnessed a more self congratulatory bunch of fan porn promoters.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Bill Snyder
5 and 13 against Nebraska. I will give credit where credit is due, that is a somewhat respectable record against Nebraska, 5 wins, not bad, but he still had 13 losses.
considering he started with the worst team in NCAA, several of those shouldn't even count
from ‘98-’04 he was 5-2. Any stretch like that shows he has a considerable impact on your program too. I think that’s why you hate him so much.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
I would like to say one thing...
In my two years at BOTC, I’ve written satirical pieces that have portrayed Texas A&M as a functional retard that screws household appliances, Kansas as a gay criminal, Oklahoma as a stereotypical white trash superstar, and Iowa State as a forever cursed loser who masturbates to 70’s variety shows…
Yet…none of it has spawned nearly as much anger as a mildly insulting piece of satire that simply poked fun at the most asinine assertion that Nebraska fans are better than everyone else.
I’d like to thank the many Nebraska fans that have commented in this thread (excluding some very level-headed ones) for proving the overall point: you need to stop basing your self worth on a football team and get a life. Maybe a girlfriend. Possibly both.
I will also say that after October 7, 2010, I may be one of the few people (or many…who knows) that looks forward to seeing Nebraska leave our conference. I don’t say this because I have something against the university or it’s teams. I say it because I really, really get annoyed by Nebraska fans. In person, in print, on the Internet, etc. There are some (Joe being a great example) that I find to be delightful. However, the majority of you are fucking insane.
So, with that, I will not be banning any of you. I’ll let TB ban if he wants. I find the comments to be an extremely telling example of how wonderful all of you are, and what a great joy you’ll be to the Big Ten.
Happy trails.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also, thank you for the 10,000 hits today. It helps with the ad revenue.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
So very much for not banning any of us, our great and generous benefactor. Get a life, girlfriend, or both…… Didn’t feel the need to delve into personal attacks, but this is coming from a K-State blogger….. Not exactly writing for the New York Times and fighting off super models are ya? For the record I do have a girlfriend AND a life, who’d a thunk it, and I juggle them with buying new overalls, painting myself red, and watching The Game Of The Century twice a day. How many “Game Of The Century” type games does KSU have under their belt by the way?
It’s not merely the assertion about fan status and who thinks they’re the greatest fans or whatever….. I’m a Husker fan, personal experience, I don’t know a lotta other fans who run around shouting how great a fan they are, and how they’re better fans than other teams’ fans. I don’t see a lot of it. But I do see snail fart, last shot out of the roman candle blogs like this, by groups who are clearly “less than” who feel the need to bash our fanbase for their fervor, and our success. The media, check ESPN, check any broadcast, lotta announcers prop us up too. Yeah some people will get on message boards and brag about how great our fans are, good for them, it’s their prerogative. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is.
I just get annoyed with half-assed trash jobs like this, under the guise of “humor” that spout off without any serious merit, it’s a joke. Like a team that’s won 15 games vs. a program that’s beat ‘em 77 times crowing about how great they are, how they have lives outside of this (yet they’re still on a message board trying to make their case sound relevant), how overall their school has better teams (yet does not, and when this information is provided it’s dismissed that “underwater basket weaving” and such count towards Director’s Cup Awards). K-State, the mustard burp of athletic programs; momentarily interesting, yet ultimately unsatisfying.
God, this needs to get bronzed like the Tebow quote and put on the wall of "Why No One Can Stand Nebraska Fans"
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go back and read the post very, very carefully
I’ll wait. Done yet?
See if you can find in there anywhere where I said that K-State has a better record overall than Nebraska, or has had more success over the years than Nebraska, or anything even remotely similar to that.
I’m waiting. You find it yet?
No?
Well, I’m shocked. Could that possibly be because the point wasn’t that “K-State is historically a better football team than Nebraska,” but rather “Nebraska fans are, by and large, really annoying?”
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're building the typical argument of, "We're annoying, but we have a right to be!"
It’s so predictable that it’s like an episode of “Everybody Loves Raymond.”
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
No
We’re just better, and we have a right to defend our position. While you never claimed scoreboard over us, I did see a lot of how KSU somehow “owned” us for their handful of wins this last decade plus. So a few of us felt the “need to educate” a few of you by posting overall records, scores, and the like.
We’re really annoying. I’m fine with that. I don’t recall posting anything about our fans being any better than any other team’s fans either. If you paid enough attention you’d see my main point was how silly KSU fans can be. Trying to further their position by bashing our loyalty, ridiculing how we have nothing to do in this state, ripping us for having nothing but football at NU (yet bashing the facts that our overall sports program scores are miles ahead of KSU’s), etc etc. It’s preposterous really.
So yes, to your point, we may be annoying, but we have a right to be. Win something of consequence, then you can earn the right to be annoying too.
BUT YOU NEVER DID ANY OF IT. YOU. PERSONALLY.
That’s what you don’t get. YOU didn’t do any of it, so YOU are being annoying.
If Tommy Frazier walked up to me tomorrow, I’d say, “Damn, you were good. I enjoyed watching you play.” If he said, “Yeah, WE had a lot of success,” I’d congratulate him.
When you say, WE have a right to be after winning something of consequence, you sound like an idiot because YOU didn’t have a damn hand in any of it.
That’s it. It’s like you provided the closing argument of my thesis. Thank you.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hah, really
You may want to rewrite your thesis, or just choose a new topic.
Curious, when you kids accidentally broke through in 1998 and beat Nebraska, or when you beat OU for a Big 12 title, did you say “Yeah, YEAH, THEY DID IT, THEY WON! THOSE KSU WILDCATS, THEY RULE!” Well, maybe you did I guess.
I don’t know how you do it down there, but WE identify with OUR team here in Nebraska. WE won. WE lost, that’s how it works for us. Yeah, I didn’t suit up with Frazier or Ahman Green or Aaron Graham or Terrell Farley, sue me. I was (still am!) a fan. In Nebraska, the FANS are part of the PROGRAM. Hence the WE. I didn’t “have a damn hand in any of it.” Yeah, neither did the 78,000+ filling the stadium back then. Or the thousands who traveled to away games. The Husker football team played alone, for itself, not for a state, a fan base, yep, existed in a vacuum. If YOU don’t care as much, a’ salute, good for you. But WE care about what OUR team does. Put that in your thesis.
and smoke it.
Sorry, it just seemed like that was missing from the end of your….well…whatever.
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
and CAPITALS
SHOW that YOU are REALLY a GREAT fan.
I wish I COULD be AS good.
by tigertiger on Jul 15, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like a Yankee fan...
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
No....
the CAPS were used to help emphasize a point. You can WISH you could be as GOOD, but I don’t see it happening. Tell ya what though, in all honesty, I can’t wait to rekindle the NU/Mizzou rivalry in the Big 10, that will be something, the Tigers bringing their 7 million TV sets and rabid fanbase and all, lookout Big 10…….oh wait a second….they didn’t get the invite? But they were too good for the Big 12! Oops, my bad.
This is pure gold. It's so syrupy that you could put it on pancakes.
I’m just going to let you end with this.
“WE identify with OUR team here in Nebraska. WE won. WE lost, that’s how it works for us.”
And it’s exactly what the initial post was about. You guys take this stuff way too seriously.
God, it’s like we can’t hand you the rope fast enough.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 14, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh,
exactly. We take it seriously. I’m not going to beat my girlfriend, get into a fight, drink myself into a stupor or not show up to work over the Huskers, but if it takes a few minutes of my spare time to fire off some internet posts to counter a typical wandering, one trick pony of a blog taking potshots at the fans of my team then yeah, I’ll do it.
But YOU identify with YOUR team
So when Lawrence Phillips drags his girlfriend down a flight of stairs YOU did it with him.
by Eschim on Jul 15, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hah, of course...
A very myopic all or nothing take on the situation. How old are you, 15? I identify with my team, most certainly. I do not however, condone what LP did. There is a separation, we’re not all in lockstep over here. I wanted him off the team. A lot of us did. Tom Osborne kept him on. Did I hammer Osborne for his decision? No. It was a shitty situation. Osborne thought he was doing the right thing at the time, trying to straighten that idiot out, whaddya gonna do?
Guy
did you read the article? You have the right to be annoying because of Nebraska’s history? Holy shit! I think you’re on to something. Let me get this straight….if I agree to be a Nebraska fan…I can be a condescending piece of shit….sign me up for two!
by williewildcrack on Jul 14, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but you have to paint yourself red and put a corn cob on your head.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Yeah
Purple body paint with a stuffed cartoon cat head is much more sensible. And no you couldn’t be a Husker fan, because in another year or two when your team is even less relevant than it is now, you’ll be pursuing other interests, “oh well, they suck, whatever….”
Condescending piece of shit, I take that as a compliment, because again, at least I have a position to be condescending from. And again, win something of relevance (and continue to build on that for decades), then maybe you can be condescending to pieces of shit who mistake a handful of wins as great success, and spout off about how other teams and their fans suck.
But wait.......
there’s less! Quick one liner, nothing else, for a response. Don’t bother reading the response of course, just note that there is a response and automatically blast it. It’s your only defense. Yeah I get the whole point here was to take a weak potshot at Husker fans, get them riled, and sit back and watch the carnage. Fine, whatever gets hits, good for this site.
But when the Husker fans heard about it, and responded, most with logical arguments, facts, figures, whatever…….. The responses were still buried as “get a life” and “take it too seriously.” By this same rationale, wouldn’t the great majority of posters who continued to fire shots at “NU loser fans” have been better served to just leave it alone? After all, you “don’t care as much as Husker fans do.” You also “have lives,” that sort of thing. From such an enlightened position, surely you could just scoff as those of us who have a passion for the team we follow, and let us go on about our tattered little lives, correct?
again it was under HUMOR
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone who has to brag about having a girlfriend is so pathetic..thx for the laugh!
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Who
is bragging about having a girlfriend? Simply noting things in my life that are more important to me than Husker football, and things that do not suffer at the expense of it. You had proven yourself almost formidable with many of your comments regarding this blog, but a weak shot like that, good gravy, you’re reaching my friend. May want to sit the next few plays out there champ.
You're welcome
It may be the last time we are able to once again rescue KSU from obscurity.
Funny how we managed to leave the “safety net” of our Husker sites to make it here
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Hold me
UltimaRatioRegum……I’m scared! I watched the ‘96 Fiesta Bowl twice before logging on, it helped me get the courage up to continue to post. How are you coping? Hah, it is funny isn’t it?
Good Lord, I have been called out
By the self appointed keeper of all that is right an holy. Help me Lord, for his words are mighty.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
This is Saccman and UltimateRatioRegum right here I suppose they could throw gbr1 into it...
to make it a 3 way battle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad6eZTDikA
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
by EMAWrising on Jul 15, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank You!
We are all now officially immortalized by your plagiarized wit.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
It would have helped us a lot if it were actually funny, but maybe it’s the translation of internet speak, maybe I just don’t see us the way you seem to (it’s hard to see your own flaws.) But I just didn’t think there was anything amusing about the article and frankly it came off as sort of nasty, lastly in my experience all of my friends who are KState fans have enjoyed the rivalry as I have and enjoy the companionship of other college football fans. All the best guys, I hope you have success in the coming years in the Big XII-2
It was funny.
I guess my experience in having football discussions with Nebraska fans I know (and liked) went something like this:
Me: So, how do you think the North will go this year.
Them: Nebraska will win.
Me: What about Missouri/Kansas State/Colorado?
Them: We’re Nebraska
Me: Your coach is Bill Callahan
Them: Doesn’t matter. We’re Nebraska.
Obviously, I’m paraphrasing, but most discussions with a Nebraska fan are about as productive as me talking to my dog about the weather.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I find that odd, because during the Callahan days, (with the exception of the Sam Keller years) I was extremely skeptical of the team and everyone I knew was as well. I think most of us do recognize our limitations and hope for the best. I’m not trying to be offensive in saying that I genuinely didn’t realize that you were trying to be funny, I didn’t even chuckle. Maybe my family and friends are different, or perhaps I don’t see them when the interact with fans of other teams. It’s a bummer if your post is a fair caricature.
Life
I have a beautiful wife, wonderful son, beautiful big house in Millard Nebraska, former Marine, great paying career. Pretty sure that sums me up as “having a life”. You see what had happened was, you stirred up something that you KNOW for a fact a certain northern group takes very serious, now we respond and we are “fucking insane”. This I find hilarious, all of my posts on here have been derogatory toward your fan base and you “bring on the cats” have responded to just about every one of them, why have you responded to my posts degrading KSU fans, because you are a fan just like I am and take football serious. I dont begrudge you for defending your school, I find your original post and your responses to my begrading of KSU athletics and the KSU fan base extremely telling of how EXTREMELY jealous you are, and you must be a liberal, you feel you can have an opinion but nobody else can. WRONG
No politics here.
None. You won’t be warned again.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 15, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was classy
the “f****ing insane” remark, that was a true measure of communicative prowess
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I used it for dramatic effect because I had to communicate the level of insanity that most of you show on the Internet.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but seriously
I’m sorry, but isn’t it a tad sanctimonious to thinly veil your vilification of Husker fans in the original post and then more overtly in subsequent comments, then take refuge in that piece of “drama”?.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
'you need to stop basing your self worth on a football team'
ding! ding! ding! ding!
Change ‘football’ to ‘basketball’ and you describe the nastiest (and densest, if that is a word) portion of the KU fanbase, too.
Humor?
Seems more like bitterness to me. I don’t blame him though; KSU is probably headed for an obscure second-tier conference once Texas finds a better deal. It’s going to be very tough to sell recruits on such a dim future. And Bill Snyder ain’t getting any younger. Upside: I see a FCS national championship in KSU’s future!
The author used his initials; pretty brave. I’ve never been to Manhatten, but I’ve been to enough towns in Kansas to know that no one there can really look down their nose at the culture in Nebraska. Apart from being a little warmer and having a little more twang, there isn’t much difference. Oh wait a minute, there is one difference: Nebraska belongs to a conference that is going to survive and prosper!
by Husker Skeptic on Jul 14, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
As a resident of Kansas City, I look down on Omaha.
Down. On Omaha.
Good day, sir.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
First off...
…where is Texas going to get a better deal? They had every opportunity in the world available to them this time around, and they stayed right where they are.
Second, you’re chastising me for using my initials? At least those are my real initials. I’ve posted on this site for almost three years. My email is at the bottom of the page. You used the name “Husker Skeptic.” You definitely win the medal of honor.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 14, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The SEC, if they take Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Texas A&M with them they will have more opportunities for ratings on their new network. The argument from academics could become transient as they have been willing to be in the same conference as Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and they seemed ok with the SWC in the past. I see no reason that Texas might not eventually bolt, for the sake of all of you guys, I sure hope they don’t.
mmmmmm not really
the Pac-10 would not have let them run things the way they do in the Big 12/10, however they may have ended up splitting the conference in a way that benefited them. The argument was that the athletes would have gotten home too late from away games…..rrrright. Why would they leave when they can convince any one of the schools to comply or risk losing the rest of the Big 12/10
And that was the point, you guys are the puppets and Texas is the puppeteer.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m a husker fan bro, I have followed them since I was a small child, but that said there is no reason to be condescending or wish ill for our old friends at KSU. They are old Big Eight brethren and Nebraska fans used to be pro-conference, I will be rooting for the Big XII (OBVIOUSLY, the old Big Eight teams and even the Texas teams) all the way until Nebraska becomes a Big Ten team. And when we leave I will still not harbor any enmity towards the old Big Eight teams, in-fact I really really hope that the balance of power sings back North and Nebraska gets to see some of our old partners in BCS bowl games and perhaps the National Title.
Is there bitterness? I really hope not. That’s the main reason that I’ve posted here, I’m genuinely confused by the posting and I feel kind of sad that these folks feel so put out.
This has been, without a doubt, the most brilliant day in BOTC history.
I feel like part of an anthropological experiment. Well done, gents.
Dear Lord, I just want to say thank you for all you have done
At the first read of this post I prayed that we would get a bunch of husker fans in here doing exactly what they have done to prove exactly what they have. The greatest thing about this post is the whole point was to examine whether or not husker fans felt they were the greatest through their smug little “best fans” crap and to warn Big10 teams. What may have been seen as only an opinion has been turned into by none other than the people being warned about. Thank you baby Jesus and thank you Husker nation. Please never ever ever ever ever change. Please…. I mean it.
by Clubbzilla on Jul 15, 2010 2:10 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
it's sort of like
you put a pointy stick in the ground, and all these gracious folks are impaling themselves on it to ‘beat’ the stick. ’I’ll show you, damn stick! Let’s see how you like my left lung!!!’
OK, back to third period study hall….
it's sort of like
trying to reason with a bunch of purple Chatty Kathy dolls.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The old canard
If you are passionate about sports, you must live somewhere where there’s nothing better to do. You often hear this canard from SoCal d-bags with soul patches, so the author and many commenters are in some good company. I don’t buy it. There’s an awful lot of passion for New York sports teams—I’d like to see you make the argument there’s nothing else to do there. Anyway, just wanted to drop a line to tell you how terribly impressed I am by your clever, snarky little blog (sarcasm).
Buckeyefan in NEBRASKA
As for the buckeyefan in Huskerland, What tickets we don’t use? Are you even aware of the traveling we do? We will use all those tickets and buy the tickets your students will sell us for the" Meth" addiction and buy the tickets your folks have, to keep the payment up on your theropy. Really son get real.
Haters gonna hate.
They see us rollin…..they be hatin’. Dude….seriously. Maybe you should call your therapist…. That kind of hatred doesn’t hurt any Husker fans. I’d say we’re better fans than you (and I mean you in particular) because we don’t dedicate entire columns trying to sabotage somebody’s new relationships. I have some good friends who are K-State fans. They wouldn’t dream of this kind of attack. Dude….get some help.
My God!
Is their any fanbase that lives as vicariously through their football program as loser NU fans do? Seriously, get some accomlishments of your own!
by classlesscat on Jul 18, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be....
“Is THERE any fanbase…” Not to quibble, but we’ve seen verbal jousts on paragraph length and the like already. If you cannot differentiate between “their” and “there” then you may truly be a classlesscat. I can’t speak for the other Husker fans on board here, but I have plenty of accomplishments of my own. If I were to mention them, of course I would be called out for bragging and/or any other reason the purple people could find. So I don’t trumpet them. I have no problem defending my team however. Do you, classlesscat, defend your team? Speak out in their favor? Or do you just sit back and wait for your brethren to take potshots at others, then fire off snide one liners to try and feel good about yourself? When K-State wins, do you celebrate it? Or do you just say ho-hum, we beat a team whose fans think they’re so great, whatever…..
P.S, I’m sorry, this post was over 10 lines long, mea culpa……
I told myself I wouldn't check on this thread today, but I couldn't help myself.
It’s like a car crash, I just can’t look away.
I'm treating it as a social experiement at this point.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
After seeing this I have come to a conclusion
All Nebraska fans are linked to the interwebs by some sort of wireless connection. Perhaps this is akin to the Avatar hair neuronal cells.
I am forced to think these are in most NU fans, possibly in the form of a mullet, or late 1993 rat tail. Either way they all must know when something on the internet is written, and then get a signal from their web-quaff to go and search it out.
Also this type of cellular structure must completely negate the areas of humor, and satire. Perhaps the wireless neuronal connections synapse on these areas and drain them of any neurotrophic factors that would allow these “funny” cells to stay alive.
I for one am impressed with the speed of their response, these axonal processes could be up to 5 inches long (longer in a rat tail) which will explain my shock. A) That length doesn’t lend itself to great signal reception so there must be some kind of booster to get a better connection B) That is a fairly long process for signals to travel down, I am wondering if there is some new form of myelin that is covering these wireless neurons.
……and this is why one never, NEVER, writes anything bad about Nebraska. They’ll know, inherently they will all know. They will descend upon you like a biblical wrath, and unknowingly prove the exact point (though started in jest) that they are arguing against.
I guess I wish I could be like them. Instant downloads from the web to my brain would be pretty cool.
But then I’d have to have a mullet and loose my humor….so…..
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
An evolved myelin sheath?
But wouldn’t severe fetal alcohol syndrome or a lack of prenatal care in general inhibit the formation of such a thing? There’s got to be an explanation…damn…there must be!
by williewildcrack on Jul 15, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh noes!!!
You are right! Oh wait, perhaps fetal alcohol syndrome selected for a mutated form of myelin.
A positive selection from a negative factor.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Proof that the posters on our site are smarter than everyone else's. Boom.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
PJ's comment
made sense to me. :-P
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
hahahhahhahhah
nice
I just got science roasted
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I include anyone from RMN as a poster on this site. You are all BOTC poster by proxy of the Unholy Alliance.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
YES!
BOTC by proxy!
I need to e-mail Bill about this being a potential RMN T-shirt. Or the reverse could be a potential BOTC T-shirt.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
turns out we have the internet too….and it was posted on Huskermax and Huskerpedia, which are the collective aorta of NU athletic info.
after all that drivel i don’t think any of you should be giving anyone crap about not having a girlfriend.
maybe you could do an indepth study on why all of sudden k-state fans came out of the woodwork after 1997 and why they are all under the age of 35
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Missed that point again fine sir
I was not gleaning from this page that NU fans did or did not have internet.
Rather, that SOME had internet directly piped into their brains with which to assimilate all who do not agree with their views.
drivel? Sure, throwing in scientific phrases, and cell types to enrich a humorous view can be construed as drivel.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
meh
It doesn’t matter at this point. This has been interesting to read.
Especially all the comments from NU fans that joined SBN just to make a comment here.
You guys are gone to the Big 10, wish it could have been Mizzou.
…but anyways, good luck. It’s going to be different.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 15, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
good job, getting some attention on an dead site -
calling out Nebraska fans seems to have brought some attention to your site – bringonthecats hasn’t seen this amount of attention since… well – has it ever?
also any news on … your last- ditch efforts to nullify your 3+M$ buyout agreement with f Prince. … ?
Will your coach Mr. Burns erra Snyder continue to go to his knee’s for Bevo?
Does Freeman’s dad still work for KSt?
Actually, we had over 100,000 hits last month, but thank you for proving the point that you think the world revolves around you.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow! So you got 1/10th the hits in one day slurring Nebraska that you got in total all last month?
You should rename this site “Bash Huskers” and send all revenue checks to Nebraskans, who as you gleefully (and disingenuously) like to point out are doing your work for you.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 15, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, we've had 25,000 hits in a day on multiple occasions for our "Adventures of the Big 12" posts, but whatever. It's all about you.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and they continue to prove the point lol....how dumb can you be after this long?
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Well, then, why all the snide glee in a little 10,000 hit day at the expense of Nebraska
if you are so big time?
Congratulations on your 25K days – sorry I wasn’t privy to your web analytics and only had the data you chose to post.
And my friend, you made it all about Nebraska.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it October yet?
Man, just trying to read some of this made me tired! Some of this is funny, but seriously – people need to stop taking their bitter pills. We love our team, you love yours. Believe me, Nebraska fans understand this and respect this for every rival program. So, bash away wildcat fans. None of this talk will matter come October.
See ya in the fall! Go Big Red!
Guide for Kst fans in the new B12
Guide for Kst fans in the new B12
Be sure to thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out -
Put stadium expantion on hold – and thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out
Stall the payment promised to Prince – then thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out
Stop with purple pants and purple jerseys – then thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out
Keep Willie the Wildcat away from young fans.. then thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out
Stay away from calling out Nebraska, why would you want to be reminded of 29 consecutive losses, then thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out-
Suck up to the Sun Belt conference [ its the only conf you have a winning record against ] then thank the B12 for less than equal TV revenue pay out.
Even with the same revenue sharing model, by losing NU and CU, we'll see a large net gain.
Basic division.
Number/10 > Number/12
Also, revenue sharing is the ultimate red herring that idiot Husker fans cling to as to why you left. Even the most inequitable TV revenue sharing in the Big 12’s history, from top to bottom, amounted to about 2 million per year between the upper (Texas) and lower (KSU/ISU/Kansas/Baylor/etc.). That amount of money, 2 million, would represent an increase of roughly 4%.
I would also like to point out that Nebraska was always a member of the four university voting block of Texas/Texas A&M/OU/NU that BLOCKED revenue sharing for our conference. The reason NU is leaving, pure and simple, is the inclusion into the CIC on the academic side and the fact that Tom Osborne and Harvey don’t like Dodds and Powers. Everything else you hear is just spin and propaganda to get the casual Husker fan to vilify Texas and justify breaking nearly 100 years of tradition.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I’ve not heard any Husker fans claim it was revenue sharing, it all had to do with level of commitment between the Big Ten and the Big XII. It’s got to be scary for you guys to think about the fact that Texas has no major reason to stay other then the sense of loyalty that it has to you guys. Who knows how strong that sense is, and who knows if it will be present in the next Longhorn policy makers, the fact of the matter is, that the SEC could become a very attractive place for Texas indeed.
As to Osborne and Perlman not liking Dodds and Powers, this is based on what? I mean seriously drop the fanboy, anti NU partisanship here for a moment and re-listen to what Perlman and Osborne said in the press conference (if it weren’t true there would be 10 ADs and 10 University chancellors who would be writing press releases to let us know about it.) Texas had just leaked that it had been in serious talks with the PAC10 for several months, this was a causal contributor to the events that unfolded. The block of 6 that were to go to the PAC10 created the moment of crisis in the Big XII meetings, in effect they forced Perlman and Osbornes hand by letting them know that if CU and Mizzou jumped ship that Nebraska’s future would not be secure. And frankly by comparison, in this situation OU and Texas were holding all of the cards. They had the larger block of schools willing to follow them and OU had two conference options and Texas most likely had 3!
My point is that there was nothing petty about what Tom and Harvey did, they had to do it. In the situation the Big Ten became the safe bet, and while the CIC and the BTN might have lured us away anyway, it would be a mischaracterization to say that Nebraska went looking for all of this, especially when the PAC10 confirmed that the block of 6 were in negotiations for months with the conference and the Osborne and Perlman essentially called Delany looking for a lifeline.
Panjandrum
Texas’ State Government has more of a say in what their schools do…..you seriously think they saved the Big 12 because they were worried about you.
Your AD department is blindly following a group of universities that don’t care about you, seems like you guys are unwillingly able to admit that your gonna miss Nebraska and the fans…..God knows we aren’t all a-holes, even though I puffed up a bit earlier…..now I see how stupid I looked earlier even if I was trying to poke fun back.
Some of the people on here are being jerks for no reason other than because you can be, I guess thats good for your ego though and makes you better because you point out faults that everyone already knows about. I for one won’t miss a lot of this crap. TB good article bud, you got what you aimed for and then some….I will say this though, I really do hope to meet you as a beer and braut are in order sir.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
TB it won't be tough
as you said earlier Nebraska is small and I know someone who graduated a year ahead of you.
I will frequent this site more often and would appreciate not being banned but please no more discussions of sheathes or synapses….I don’t have to read about it, therefore I do not want to on a sports site.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I won't miss Nebraska or your fans, and I mean that.
There is one group of fans that I couldn’t stand being parted with, and that’s KU. That’s the one rivalry I need to maintain in my universe to keep me sane. This isn’t a particular slight to NU fans. I wouldn’t miss Iowa State, I won’t miss Colorado, and even Missouri, who I do root for when they don’t play Kansas State, would not cause me to lose sleep at night because every institution must do what’s right by them.
Our university is following the best course of action for us, and that’s to stay in what remains of the Big 12. Would I have liked to go to the Big East? Yeah. The basketball alone would have made it worth it for me. However, the money would have been worse. It’s a trade-off. Besides, the basketball in the new Big 12-2 just got a whole lot better, so I’m satisfied.
I never said, once, that I believe Texas did this for us. I firmly believe Texas is where they are because no conference can take the entourage that is going to be forced upon them by the Texas state legislature. This is why I have no concerns about our long term prospects in a BCS conference. As long as we stay with the Texas block, we’re fine. Those schools are about as likely to unpair at this point as the Earth from the Moon.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Texas will stay because their legislature won't let them bust up A&M, UT, and Tech...
And there isn’t any combination of conferences or teams that will fit them. They’re stuck because the state government makes it so.
I don’t blame NU for leaving. I never said that I did. I feel comfortable with our future position as you do yours.
And I have heard several Husker fans claim that revenue sharing was some sort of lightning rod issue. You seem like a level headed person who consorts with level headed people. Maybe here, in Kansas City, I get some sort of fringe group of Husker fan that is too far detached from the mothership to get the true memos of why you left, but yes, I have heard this.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
hey
I’m not lying anyone here would be welcome at my tailgate. I just feel like when everyone needed to stand up and say don’t leave lets keep this thing together, when what everyone did was go to their collective corner and started pointing fingers.
I gotta little outta hand yesterday…..sorry about that
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
OSU, PSU, MU, WU
The Big 10 isn’t gonna be easier by any means……throw Iowa in there too
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That had nothing to do with it.
Texas tried to pull the same thing that they did when they entered the Big XII. Everything was supposed to be Big Eight rules all up until the end when Texas started getting pissy about conference partial qualifier rules. Texas did the same thing to the PAC10, throughout the negotiations the PAC10 said that they would split up money equally and create a network that the teams would share. Then in the eleventh hour of negotiations, just before things were going to be signed Texas said they wanted to maintain their media rights in order to create their own network. This was unacceptable to the PAC10 therefore the deal didn’t go through. Supposedly the academics are unsat in the SEC (ie, the longhorns lose some of their recruiting advantage, they don’t need partial qualifiers because they are in Texas and they can have as many players in as many positions as they need without having to compromise anything, other schools are so blessed in geography), but the SEC would be OK with Texas having their own network, and you can bet that that network would be more profitable with an SEC schedule that included A&M, Tech and Oklahoma.
I don’t think the Big XII-2 will last fellas.
4% is a ''large net gain"
KState getting the smallest payout and Oklahoma the biggest. Sounds fair to you? its a 6M swing $9M to Kst and $15+M to OK.
Plus you will miss the gate on a sold out home game every other year-
I think if Kst was offered a seat with the B10 they would have taken it… I agree the CIC is a great deal for Nebraska…
NU made the right decision
to go to the B10. Academic advantages alone make it nearly impossible to pass up.
However, I would suggest that you imagine that press conference/curators-regents meeting happened in Columbia instead of Lincoln, and the same things were said by Alden and Deaton about NU that were said about MU (and also CU and UT).
I think you would have a different opinion on the ‘classy justification’ vs. ‘whiny/petty potshot fest’ argument. And the screaming (largely justified) from the NU fanbase would be intense, ugly and prolonged.
If it is part of a legal strategy to avoid paying penalties, I suppose it is a bit more justified, but that is also quite weasel-like in a different way.
And the revenue sharing is a complete red herring, NU changed their tune as it was basically a B10 requirement (‘people that match our values’).
Listen
If you think Texas wasn’t shopping around that skirted a** then your crazy…..missou threw our name into the mix and all of sudden some of the media and MOSTLY Texas spins it around to make it look like NU ripped apart the big 12. There were all sorts of under the table deals going on and for some reason NU got invited and that was it. Seriously though, buh bye Misouri
or KU or KSU if you would have left for the Big 10, that doesn’t hurt the BIG 12 the way NU leaving does. Like or not we brought a lot of revenue to the conference also.
The SWC fell in a very similar pattern/manner, I was raised on Big 8/12 football and my first game was a Missouri game, not Purdue, Minnesota, or Iowa sooooo don’t think that we are all happy about this move.
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing they said wasn’t true though, it was all true. Your fucking governor was raving about it before anything happened. Mizzou made it very clear that they wanted out when there was silence from the Nebraska administration. There were to pot shots, and the parts about Mizzou and Texas were central to the reasons for leaving, if the positions were reversed I would expect those things to be said.
The only real trash talk from anyone important has come from the Big XII-2, including a big Okie Lite booster and the president of Texas Tech. Then we see what happens when Tubberville tells the truth.
This thread has become somewhat of a huge pissing match
where the more rational (mostly K-Staters, but not all) haven’t felt the need to pee…
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the first stream
of piss was shot across the NU bow, whether your goading or stating fact you commenting makes you part of the collective idiocy
by dilligaf(does it look like I give) on Jul 15, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Here ya go K-state fans!
Since your the best here is a little gift from all of us at kansas state! A dvd of your 1989 win over North Texas! Sweet isnt it? That is exactly what I would give my fans! Tools!
Oh snap!
What a zinger that was…in our faces…sweet!
by williewildcrack on Jul 15, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
PS
Tools (!) ? Is that the handy manny call to arms? My two year old would be very proud, he loves that shit too.
by williewildcrack on Jul 15, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebraska "there isn't a whole lot to do there."
Yeah, because there is so much more to do in Kansas. LOL Thanks for the laugh. Seriously, if this is the reason for fan travel, shouldn’t ISU, KSU, TTU, travel as well as Nebraska?
Seriously I will miss playing K-State in particular, I have a good friends from that university, it is always a great excuse to touch base, and talk some smack.
Good luck to you and Go Big Red!
Winning Championships
Nebraska fans are better than Mizzou or K-State fans. No question. They expect more, they give back more and they get more back from their players.
Ladies and Gentlemen...
I give you Exhibit A.
by WillieWannabe on Jul 15, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll file this under the "We Will Them to Win...Because We Care" group
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s not the point guy, the point is that Nebraska as a state will not accept mediocrity because we are obsessed, this leads the University to do things like fire coaches that go 8-4. Nebraska has both benefited and taken a downturn from our expectations as fans. We don’t “will them to victory.”
Also our fanbase does contribute to the terrific walk-on program we’ve always had, which has helped the Huskers win national titles.
Give it up
I admire your attempts at rational posts, but these guys just don’t want to hear it.
Out of one side of their mouths they vilify Husker fans as being self referential, and out of the other they continuously congratulate each other about how they (think) they smack down any Husker who dares post here on “their” site.
You could post the most eloquent work of written by man here and they would snigger and repeat their equivalent of “I know you are, but what am I?”
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone deserves a round of applause for this thread. I'm really happy about where it's been and where it's going.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I believe it long ago set a record
For most people registering for an SB Nation account solely to comment on a single thread. And it’s not even their own team’s blog!
I keep checking back to see what idiocy has been posted in the last few hours. It’s like a train wreck, only the train keeps on wrecking for two whole days. Certainly not Husker fans’ (or more specifically, Huskermax and Huskerpedia’s) finest hour.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 15, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why I stick to the SB Nation sites.
They generally do a very good job of creating a healthy back-and-forth environment. I’m not a fan of Gopowercat.com for that reason. People on those sites are generally irrational and obnoxious. They can sometimes get as bad as the newspaper forums.
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I will completely admit to putting gasoline on this fire...
I’ve been BBSing since I was 18 years old on college sports. When I started, the dislike between KSU and NU was probably at it’s most intense (1999-2000), so there was a lot of back-and-forth. I remember a time when every single poster on GoPowercat.com was banned on Huskers Illustrated sight-on-seen…even if they didn’t post anything.
That said, my dislike for “Nebraska fan” is pretty much limited to the Internet version. The ones I’ve met in public (good people, all) take this weird turn and their eyes get all wonky when talking NU football. I’m not going to say it’s Branch-Davidian, but it’s close. There is a strange religious fervor that seems unhealthy to me. And this comes from a guy that lives and dies Kansas State athletics.
Do I think all NU fans are crazy people? No. I think they’re a little crazy when they start talking Nebraska football. Especially the Internet fans. Our goading (or at least mine) was an attempt to prove this and have a little fun.
I’ve been absolutely brutal to KU on this site for two years, and I’ll say that the guys over at RCT have been nothing short of wonderful and gracious to us. They know that it’s a joke. I’m sardonic and snarky, and it’s just how I get down. I have many great KU friends, and we have really fun back-and-forth. I can’t say that I’ve ever been able to share that kind of experience with Nebraska fans because most of them take it really personally, and when you try to engage in humorous banter, they get really angry and defensive. It just makes hanging around them very…awkward.
So, Nebraska fans, lighten up. You’ll be free of us in a year, and you’ll have to put up with the “old money” Big Ten teams that trump your elitism ten fold. Buck up because it’s going to get real soon. You’re going to need to put on your hard hat and big boy britches because Iowa fans play for blood.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read your second paragraph to my wife
(she’s a native Nebraskan; I’m not) and she said, “Yup, he’s right. People get a little crazy about the Huskers.”
That’s why I love ’em. Most of the time.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 15, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebraska Fans
Quite an interesting article. But I can’t help but wonder, why did you write this in the first place? Probably because you don’t like Nebraska fans. Thats just the thing. You either love us or hate us. Most anybody you ask that has actually been to a Nebraska game will tell you that most husker fans are very welcoming. And obviously you haven’t been to a Nebraska game, otherwise you would know that the fans clap even when we lose. For example, my pastor was just telling me a few weeks ago that he was once at a Nebraska game when Texas beat us, and the fans were clapping for the Texas players as they walked off the field. However, when you talk to someone like, say, a CU, Missouri or KSU fan (or in this case, a KSU player), they say we are the most arrogant and rude fans on the face of the earth. Theres just one thing that those three schools have in common: Nebraska has a winning record in all those series by quite a large margin. This leads me to ask a serious, honest question: are they jealous? And of course, someone will come behind me and say, AHA! another husker fan whose arrogant and rude. Okay sure, call me what you want, but I don’t think anyone can say that what I’m suggesting isn’t true to some extent. And sure, Nebraska has its share of nasty, arrongant fans, just like any other team, but nobody can sit here and truthfully say that the majority of Nebraska fans haven’t developed a pretty good reputation for being knowledgeable and friendly. Just remember… why did the Big Ten pick Nebraska over Missouri, KSU, Iowa State, etc.? Mainly because of the fan base. That is not an arrogant statement, only a truthful one. We raise money for the university and for the conference, and we have a good football program, at least since Pederson and Callahan were booted. Thats why we were picked. No reason to take your anger out on us. But I don’t expect any better.
The Big 10 picked Nebraska because they thought it was the thread that would
unravel the Big XII. Obviously they were wrong.
I really don’t think so, remember Nebraska called the Big Ten, not the other way around. In reality the Big Ten had to change their schedule to get the Huskers. Also, the Big Ten would have much more interest in dismantling the Big East then they would the Big XII, if they were looking to take apart the Big XII then they probably would have forwarded an invite to Mizzou too. (btw, I would still love for Mizzou to come with us, I have really grown to enjoy that rivalry over recent years.)
Sure they did.
Keep thinking that as long as it floats your boat.
by Kraig Lundberg on Jul 15, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Jstevenson - See what I mean?
Doesn’t matter what you say, this is their site and they have all the answers.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a lasting image in my head of the NU fans streaming out the stadium against KSU in '03 before the game ended...
Were there still people clapping for them? Maybe, but I think a lot of them were in the parking lot.
And I will also agree that NU was a surprising pick by the Big Ten. MU fit the profile much better than NU did…especially academically.
We weren’t invited to the Big Ten for a host of reasons, but again, I’m not jealous. I’m pretty realistic about where we sit in the grand scheme of things. The whole point of the original post, by a native Nebraskan nonetheless, was a playful and mostly harmless shot at the narcissism of Nebraska fans. And that was completely validated by this thread and the number of people who signed up just to defend Nebraska football.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 15, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clap for KSU?
KSU didn’t deserve to be clapped for that day. Sure, they thoroughly outplayed Nebraska that day, to the point where it was pretty ridiculous when they left their starters in and scored 3 touchdowns in the 4th quarter when they had the game comfortably in hand.
I realize it was playful and harmless, but the fact that these Nebraska fans are defending their team doesn’t prove that we think we are better than anybody, it proves our passion for the game and our team.
by Kraig Lundberg on Jul 15, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
As Mike Leach said, it's up to your D to stop us not our O
And for 40 years you run the score up and one time it happens to you and the tears fall. I had an old lady cuss at me at that game and it will take some serious convincing in the future that NU has great fans.
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
And Mike Leach Is
the morality police is he? It is the duty of the “D” to stop the “O.” But there’s unwritten rules (I know, if they’re unwritten then screw ‘em) in all sports. When you’re comfortably up on a foe and they’ve conceded by putting in 3rd and 4th stringers and you still have starters in, in the last minutes, that’s kinda weak. We’d (sorry, Nebraska) would be way up on teams like Colorado State, mid 3rd quarter, put in 2nd and 3rd stringers, and also get word to the opposing head coach that all plays on offense would be between the tackles. Maybe that’s dumb, maybe that’s not putting your foot on the opponent’s throat, but it was a little more sportsmanlike than trampling 5th year senior walkons and freshmen backups. But hey, when you’re not used to success, you don’t know how to act, whatever.
And
That’s a fine 20 year sample, without a doubt. Especially for a team that basically came from the ashes. So basically double the length of that kind of consistency (and/or add to it it with a few, or 5 NC’s) and it’ll get the ’Cats to where NU has been.
stop
Husker Fans please stop responding to this article, by responding your only confirming what this article is about. This article is the ultimate form of flattery it confrims you it does not put you down. Nebraska fans talk about Nebraska. K-State fans along with some others sit around talk and write articles about Nebraska what more can you want.
You are right
But it’s just, so….. irresistible….I apologize.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Overall- the facts remain the same -
Nebraska fans do travel well-
Nebraska has won a few National Championships
Nebraska does have a strong fan support for thier spring scrimmage
Nebraska fans do have high expectations for thier team
Have Nebraska fans been called some of the greatest fans in college football – A simple Google search for “some of the greatest fans in college football” and see what you find-
Of course
Guy puts a few ideas out that you don’t agree with, naturally he’s a troll. Shine on you crazy diamond.
yes really -
Calling me a troll.. wow really? The initial post by TD is trolling and begging for Nebraska fans to defend themselves, my fact list is a direct reply to the statements [that were in bold] coming from TD’s initial post.
No, it wasn't begging for Nebraska fans to defend themselves...
People make fun of Kansas State all of the time on message boards, but do I go there and defend them? No. In the grand scheme of things, what someone else thinks of my alma mater doesn’t mean much to me. It’s what I think that counts.
Again, back to the original point, which you and some of your select friends have reinforced again, and again, and again is that you feel the need to defend yourselves against people because you care what they think about your team, and you must have that validated over and over again by other people. It’s not enough for you to be proud of your tradition. You feel the need to force that down everyone else’s throats as well.
The funny thing is that I’ve never encountered Michigan fans, Ohio State fans, Florida fans, etc. that feel this same need. Yeah, they like to talk smack and brag, but the constant need for validation isn’t there. Maybe it’s because their entire state isn’t enveloped and identified by a collegiate sports team like Nebraska is. I don’t know, nor do I care to really dig deep enough to find out.
What I do know is that you people just take this stuff way, way, way too seriously, you get wildly defensive about a game you don’t play and a team you don’t play for, and you crave and beg for the attention and validation of others because…well, I haven’t figured that part out yet. That feeds into the comment about me thinking most of you are insane.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 16, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
When?
Would you encounter Michigan, Ohio State, or Florida fans?
Also, you say you never bother going on to other message boards and defending your team……. Yet you’re still on here defending the initial writer’s position? I’d think that if this truly didn’t matter to you, you’d be sitting in your ivory (well purple) tower on high, watching the rest of us bash each other and laughing heartily.
Except for the part where, you know, I'm an editor on this site.
And, mainly, I’m not defending KSU. I’m making fun of you. The only time I think I’ve defended KSU is in the Director’s Cup discussion, and that’s because I think the Director’s Cup is stupid, so it was more in response to my feelings on that.
Nebraska beat KSU a lot in football. Whatever. I’ve only really paid attention to that since 2000 when I started attending KSU, and it’s been fairly competitive since then. I could care less about what happened before I was born or even really cared about either school to begin with.
KSU doesn’t have a good football tradition. Whatever. They’ve done alright for nearly the last 20 years. I’m willing to concede that KSU didn’t give a crap for the better part of a century, and when they started to care, they didn’t do that bad. There were no really great highs (except for winning the Big 12 in 2003), but it was a solid run. I’ll concede that other teams probably had a better run during the same time period (Nebraska being one), and I never said otherwise.
What I did say, and will maintain from now until the end of time, is that I think you’re all way to defensive and take things way too seriously for reasons I can’t seem to comprehend.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well there ya go....
“Nebraska beat KSU a lot in football. Whatever. I’ve only really paid attention to that since 2000 when I started attending KSU, and it’s been fairly competitive since then. I could care less about what happened before I was born or even really cared about either school to begin with.”
And that is the attitude a lot of Husker fans have come to loathe. A team’s been beaten for decades, finally wins a few, then the past never happened or didn’t matter, and you don’t care less about the history in general.
So you (or should I say “they” or “other K-State fans” or “purple people in general” since if you associate with your team it’s akin to actually playing for the team which is fanatical and unacceptable on this site?) don’t revel in K-State’s history? Its wins and losses? You don’t get fired up about the team? I say “the team” of course, because it’s not “your team,” if it was yours, you’d apparently be a player or coach of said team, going by remarks made above.
I get it now, it makes sense to me. Someone who’s only followed a team for about 10 years, spouting off about other fanbases, other teams, how they take it too seriously, hah, I get it. If you’ve “only really paid attention since….” and “could care less” about what happened before, then you’re like the rest of ‘em. Said it before in response to the initial farce of a blog, you’re like the kid who had his first beer, and a mustard burp of a football program. Momentarily entertaining, but not worthwhile or very satisfying. You can’t comprehend, and you never will.
I've followed college football a lot longer than 10 years. I just never had a rooting interest in anyone.
I’ve encountered Nebraska fans since birth. I always thought they were weird; I just didn’t really care because I didn’t have a dog in the fight.
I guess at the end of the day, I don’t know what you want me to say? Do you want me to bow to Nebraska and their tradition? Why? I certainly respect what the program has accomplished, but you’re not above ridicule for your fans’ narcissism (not the program), which is what the initial blog post was about. Also, it’s every bit as sad to see fans of a program with moderate success in the past decade (since NU hasn’t won a conference title in over ten years) keep dragging up the mid-90’s to claim their relevance.
I apologize for being under thirty. I apologize that I was not indoctrinated as a crazy person from birth. I apologize for becoming a rabid fan of a team when I went to school there. If that makes me a bad student of college football, or someone who is incapable of understanding the complexities and justifications as to why a lot of Nebraska fans act like a bunch of people with their hair on fire if someone says anything derogatory about their fans or program, I will concede.
Finally, if I’m not able to understand your justifications for acting like a red sweatshirt wearing cult, I sincerely apologize. I’m simply unable to gauge ‘crazy’, even when it stares me in the face, because I will simply never, ever understand because “I’m not one of you”.
That’s not crazy. Nope. Crazy people never say things like, “You just don’t understand.”
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Also, I travel a lot for work and work for a very large company. I work alongside all of those folks every single day.
There’s a dude down the aisle from me that’s an OSU grad. I work with tons of UF grads. I’ve been around many UM fans because I do business in that region.
Simply put…I know people.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
But how many leather bound books do you have?
by Texas Wahoo on Jul 16, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Many. And my home smells of rich mahogany.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
This thread has gone on for so long
that the same Anchorman joke has been used twice. Yes!
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by mystman995 on Jul 16, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lots of misunderstanding
This article was written about fans not the school or team. Having a good team that has won 5 national titles and has kicked the crap outta Kansas State does not mean Nebraska has better fans.
Winning does not equate better fans.
Good fans support their team. The best fans support their team during down years. Every school has it’s share of disrespectful, douche-bag, redneck, dumbass, and/or druken frat boy "fans". Nebraska is no exception. I went to school there. I’ve been to most stadiums in the Big XII. ALL schools have great fans too. Even Kansas State has shown that they have fantastic fans. A sign of a great fan base can also be seen in how they support their team during the bad times not the good times. Here are some attendance numbers (average per game), records and years associated with them at KSU home games.
2003 47109 11-4
2004 48204 4-7
2005 45961 5-6
2006 46693 7-6
2007 47382 5-7
2008 45189 5-7
2009 45918 6-6
There’s a little bit of variance, but for the most part, Snyder Family Stadium is consistently almost sold out (90%+ capacity) through the good times and bad times (capacity is listed at 50,000).
Those are great fans and they have 0 national titles and an all time record of 452-598-41.
This article never took a shot at the University of Nebraska or it’s football program. It took a shot at the fans of the Big Red thinking that they are better fans than everyone else. That’s it.
by Aaron Musfeldt on Jul 15, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
that is a great reply -
‘’wow really’’ is a very clever reply… really shows that k-State has one very smart fan in EMAWrising! Also calling me out as a ’’Troll’’ or any other Nebraska fan showing up here is weak, the article alone is a trolling for Nebraska fans to defend themselves… good luck!
BTW My post covers the bold points from the article..
Nebraska fans do travel well- fact..
Nebraska has won a few National Championships – fact…..
Nebraska does have a strong fan support for thier spring scrimmage – fact..
Nebraska fans do have high expectations for thier team – some fans more than others.. fact
Have Nebraska fans been called some of the greatest fans in college football – A simple Google search for "some of the greatest fans in college football" and see what you find-
by W77,L15,T 2 on Jul 15, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From 1990-2009 Kstate (I did this last year so I didn't have last year)
Record 1990-2009 152-78-1 (.658)
Conference Record 84-61-1 (.564)
11 Win Seasons 6
Bowl games 12
Division Titles 4
Conference Titles 1
Consecutive Bowls 11
Big 12 North Vs South
1996-2008
North 297-South 331
(.473-.527)
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
I give NU credit, but don't take from us what Kstate achieved
Nebraska
Record 1990-2009 (.761)
Conference Record (.726)
11 Win Seasons 7
Bowl games 17
Division Titles 4
Conference Titles 6
Consecutive Bowls 14
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
Hey
Totally fine with that. Snyder took dogshit and turned it into diamonds, that’s a compliment. I did discount what he did, and I will man up and admit as much. They were a laughingstock for a long long time. And hey, also, KSU’s hung with no good prickbastard UT better than we have since the inception of the Big 12. At least you (they, whoever!) have won a few vs. the Horns. And all “sinking ship” insults aside, I hope whoever’s left in the North can hold serve and battle UT and OU evenly going forward.
Yea, the being Texas' bitches made me laugh
because they were getting t-shirts for this site and one of the ideas was “bitchslapping Texas since 1997.”
How bout we both beat Texas this year and leave the rest up to Oct 7?
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
That works for me
Totally. UT could be playing communist russia (won’t capitalize that) and I’d still root for the commies. I think, despite bombast, we’re much alike. My group as a whole has a stigma of being ‘holier than thou,’ and yeah a lotta people perpetuate that. I don’t. If I get annoyed I pop off accordingly. I ain’t (grammar aside, I was an English Minor so I earn the right to speak incorrectly, hah) going to lay claim to being one of the “greatest fans in college football.” But again I’ll tear herring with opposing fans, on the ’net or in person, as I have at a few Big 12 road venues.
The posting of links, shit’s sake, I’d a done the same thing. Good for you. So yeah, we’ll hammer UT on 10/16, hope you take a chunk outta their ass on Senior Day, 11/6.
Just kidding
We think you are arrogant, just kidding, you are boring,just kidding,you are rude,just kidding,you care too much,just kidding,I was testing you,just kidding, Nebraska is full of losers,just kidding,you have no life,just kidding,why are you here,just kidding,I knew you would all be here,just kidding,watch out Big 10,just kidding,watch out NU,just kidding,the intertube sucks,just kidding,I work for the intertube,just kidding,thanx for stopping bye,just kidding,don’t come back,just kidding,you are crazy,just kidding,most of you are rational,just kidding,no one from NE is rational,just kidding,you have a disease,just kidding,you are brainwashed,just kidding,just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding just kidding! You guys can’t take a joke,just kidding,you are a joke,just kidding, I love you man! LOL
by SONOFLY on Jul 15, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I wasn't kidding. I think most of you take this way too seriously.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 16, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It actually was humor. It's called satire. Look it up.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 16, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey PJ
“I wasn’t kidding” followed by “It actually was humor” is indicative of how bipolar & schitzo this article is. Our AD put up the signs to thank us for being great fans, and we are all indoctrinated at birth, SO, what did you expect Cornnation to do when this link was posted. If I carry a sign that says K St. sucks on your campus, do you think I may induce some defensive fans to ridicule me. We only bring the defence when there is an offence. Let’s get this mother over 500 people!
This is the thread that doesn't end
Yes, it goes on and on my friend…….
I’m sure a NU fan could have made a better reference to a song to even better describe this situation. I can’t help it, I’m just an inferior fan.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 16, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
it's like an addiction...I don't want it to end :(
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
by mjk7166 on Jul 16, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
like a car wreck on uber-slow-mo, on loop, in HD.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 16, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, the tide seems to be slowing.
Too bad — reading the latest comments in this thread was becoming my favorite part of the daily routine.
Call it humor...
…if you want, but you’re way off base with your remarks. You’re mistaking arrogance for pride, something that KST/Mizzou fans obviously have very little of.
1. We do travel well, and if you think a weekend trip to Columbia MO makes people want to get out of Lincoln, you’re only kidding yourself. Missouri is a dump, and only has a share of St. Louis as it’s “entertainment”. LOL! Austin, TX? Really? That’s a vacation spot now?
2. We have indeed won 5 national championships. Something even you lowly KSt and Mizzou fans would brag about once in a while ….IF ONLY YOU COULD.
3. Your silly little comment about the spring game only exemplifies NU’s fan support. You do know they had a larger attendance at this year’s Alabama spring game right? Nothing to do down there either? What college town has all this entertainment you speak of? I can think of maybe 10-15 college towns that fall into the category of a “paid vacation” ….but for the other 100+ …?? ….I just don’t get it. Is Athens, GA a thriving metropolis of entertainment? Is Manhattan, KS? How about Iowa City? Happy Valley? Madison, WI? WTF is there to do in any of those cities????
4. The jist of your post is that NU is no different than any other fanbase, then why do you think NU fan’s expectations are different than say …USC? OU? Texas? Yes, we expect to compete for championships every year, and win every game. Is that such a bad thing? And isn’t NU projected to be a top 10 team by nearly EVERY PUBLICATION that’s out? NU will be a top 10 preseason AP team, and it’s not the fan’s fault or expectations that caused it.
5. This was just a waste of text.
6. The greatest fans in college football ….just ask MANY other people besides “them”.
The juxtaposition is amazing.
You’re mistaking arrogance for pride
We have indeed won 5 national championships. Something even you lowly KSt and Mizzou fans would brag about once in a while ….IF ONLY YOU COULD.
So, the latter isn’t arrogance?
Then what the fuck is?
Grabbing at straws eh?
Stabbing in the dark a little? The latter is a FACT, a fact that even KST and Mizzou fans would bring up in arguments …..IF ONLY THEY COULD. NU fans hold a lot of pride in that FACT.
Stating factual evidence isn’t necessarily arrogance, but by the time you’re in high school you’ll probably figure that out.
How you said it was arrogant. How you continue to say it is arrogant.
Just because you chose to follow a team that won a lot (over a decade ago), it doesn’t give you license to be an ass.
It doesn’t make you better than someone else because they choose to follow another team.
And don’t resort to the extremely tired and lame "by the time you’re in high school’ shtick because it makes you sound like an idiot.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 17, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Buy a vowel, get a clue
I’m not better as a person, but as a fanbase Nebraska is the best at providing ALL with a great gameday experience. The gameday atmosphere that 95% of the visiting fans walk away from their game win or lose saying it was top notch. It’s always “one of the best”. Have you ever thought that maybe some NU fans are asses because they just are and it has nothing to do with football at all!??! Are you some kind of superhero that can see through people’s text?
As for sounding like an idiot, you’ve done a brilliant job of that many times already on this remarkably humorous thread!
Bottom line, we’re all human…there’s bound to be a doucher that just so happens to root for (your) team, and KST fans have never won “a lot”….imagine a douchebag KST fan with no football history to even back it up with!
This whole comment deserves a giant facepalm.
95% of the fans, huh? Is this a scientific survey, or is this just random shit you people come up with and play off as ‘fact’?
Have I thought some NU fans are asses in general? Yes. But I’ve met enough of them and interacted with enough of them that the correlation is rather high. Therefore, I’ve come to the conclusion that most NU fans are asses. At least 95% of them (as I can use ballpark estimates as well).
And I’m still just floored by the notion that a lot of you people find it completely normal to brag about the exploits of 18-22 year old men as if they were your own…simply because you root for that team. I’m just amazed at how many of you seem to actually feel like you have some sort of part in the successes of Nebraska football.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 17, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Quote of the Day
This was just a waste of text.
I agree, and I’m amazed that you’re capable of such introspection.
449 comments later and still no sense of humor...it was a joke. Lighten up Francis.
by Catbacker98 on Jul 16, 2010 6:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Whaddya' mean??
You can’t tell that my reply was full of humor and was intended to be the punchline of this amazing joke? Wow, lighten up Francine.
by tripduz on Jul 16, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey tripduz, it isn't humor if it wasn't posted by purple people
Spend any time here and you’ll see that if a Husker fan posts, they’ll swarm all over it smugly telling each other that by daring to do so we have proved some point or other (it keeps changing). They find this humorous and will virtually high five each other in mutual self admiration at how clever they think they are.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 17, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The OP is labeled as having been posted
“in Humor”. Unfortunately, comments/replies cannot be ‘labeled’ so easily/accurately…
'Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.' --Jim Halpert
by VegasCat07 on Jul 17, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I didn't reply to your comment...its a subtle thing but I wasn't really talking to you.
And thanks for ruining my movie reference.
by Catbacker98 on Jul 17, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Steal our Sign.
Or part of it. Create a rivalry game with Nebraska. Schedule it out of conference. It would really rile up the fan bases of both schools.
by Aaron Musfeldt on Jul 16, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Great idea!
You sir, are a genius!
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 16, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My experience with (internet) Nebraska fans...
When I was watching NU lose to ISU last year, I remember NU deciding to punt on 4th down, which many of the home crowd did not agree with. I heard…wait for it…BOOs from the NU home crowd. I made some facebook comment about the greatest fans booing the team, or at least the team’s coaching staff.
I got about 12 replies back (some from people I didn’t know…via my facebook friends who must have been looking over shoulder?) about how I must have heard “SUUUHHHH”, not “BOO”. Not a chance. NU fans were booing because they did not like the 4th down call.
And just for the dig…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyzCw6y1yYU
If enough people call you fat, you start to think you're fat...
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32561906/ns/sports-college_football/page/3/
http://hellspawnedjavelinas.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/best-and-worst-fans-in-college-football/
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/20552480/20718842
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2248889 (3 out of 5)
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/2009/12/03/1203texnotes.html?imw=Y (Scroll down to “Brown: Huskers fans are among ‘classiest’”)
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
It would be more accurate to say...
…that if enough people call you hot, you start to think you’re hot. And that leads to vanity, which is just a bad situation for all involved.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 17, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand your point...
I was just saying that if enough people tell you something about yourself, you start to believe it yourself, good or bad.
I’m a rather level-headed fan. I see the crap that goes on around the stadium and it’s the same crap that happens at every football game.
I’ve never claimed us to be the “best fans in college football,” but it’s something we hear from other teams’ fans a lot. I think it has very little to do with our championships, knowledge of the game, our travel habits, and more to do with the “hospitality” some fans experience when visiting Lincoln.
I was at the BigXII North championship game in Lincoln last year and one thing stuck out to me… I overheard a Husker fan say “Only queers wear purple” as we were walking to our seats. Ironically, said Husker fan ate a fist, from another Husker fan. We self police our fans, for the most part.
We are all there as football fans, to support our teams, weather it’s the team that wears red and white, or the opposition, we all have one goal, root on our team. A lot of Husker fans understand this sentiment.
The BigXII has some great fans. I’ve had great experiences with Oklahoma, KState, Texas, Texas A&M, OkState, Baylor, and Iowa State fans. I’ve only ever had issues with Colorado and Mizzou fans. I’ve never honestly met a TT or Kansas fan so I can’t speak for them.
PS: What exactly can you do in Kansas on a fall or spring Saturday that you can’t do in Nebraska?
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jul 17, 2010 10:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay, I can't believe we're still doing this. It's like a Herman's Hermits song.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 17, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's the comment thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friend. I gave up I mean isn’t that part of our inferiority complex? Maybe I just never have a hope to be a great as fan as a Husker.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
This thread brings to mind old memories.
This thread doesn’t even startle me. Sadly, it doesn’t amuse me, either.
In the mid-90s, when discussions like this had to take place on things called “message boards” hosted on “online services”, I was hanging out on Prodigy and GEnie, and finally AOL and USENET, before web apps started being developed to take over the function.
These, of course, were the years when K-State was climbing up the ladder, a rung at a time. Older fans of both our schools will remember; first, KSU couldn’t get past Nebraska, Colorado, or Oklahoma, then KSU got over the Oklahoma hump, then the Colorado hump… and all during this time, the interaction between KSU and Nebraska fans was interesting. A random Nebraska fan at that time, on those services, could probably have a claim to being “KSU’s second-biggest fan”, right behind all the KSU fans (tied for first, of course). They’d come post on our boards congratulating us after every new milestone, they’d talk about how Snyder was a genius, they’d even wish us luck when it came time for the NU/KSU game, although they naturally expected to win… and later, thought they’d win… and finally, around ’97, hoped to win. In many ways, the relationship was not unlike the relationship this blog has with its Mizzou counterpart; an Unholy Alliance.
Then came the game in ’98. We sort of hit the boards first, in jubilation, but — and I am not exaggerating, or puffing it up, or rewriting history — every single KSU fan who posted immediately after the game expressed their respect for Nebraska, couching the victory in terms of the accomplishment. There were zero asinine comments like “we owned them” or “see, Nebraska sucks!” Winning that game in 1998 was only meaningful because of who Nebraska was, and every single one of us recognized that.
But no sooner had the final gun sounded than the Nebraska Fanmobile slammed on its brakes, laid rubber in the middle of US 77, machine guns popped out of the front fenders, and they started firing. I realize the game ended somewhat controversially, and I’d have understood if they were just venting about the game; the hit on Crouch was, after all, a little iffy.
No.
Our “buddies” who’d been acting like our “big brothers” for five years all of a sudden started tearing down our program. Snyder went from being a genius to a jackass. Rather than being a program which was on the rise, KSU was just lucky. And us? The KSU fans? Oh, we were all fucking assholes and we could just take our lucky victory and jam it up our asses sideways, because by god it’ll be another 30 years before it happens again. (Oh, guess they were wrong about that one.)
Yeah, there were a small handful of Husker fans who, like the small handful here, remained rational and kept a sense of perspective. But the vast majority went from being friendly with us to abject, seething hatred overnight. And when I say friendly, we’re talking guys we’d talk to all the time, not clowns who signed up for an account just so they could come vent their frustration. We knew each other, as much as you know someone on a message board. We’d stick up for one another on the general Big 8 and then the Big 12 boards. When I say overnight hatred? They started attacking us, individually, personally.
Even those of us who acknowledged the Crouch hit as having been borderline got flayed. It was downright ugly. Moderators had to get involved, things got so personal. Hell, there was one case where a Nebraska guy had been carrying on a three-year mild flirtation with a KSU girl. She tried to get him to calm down a little.
He basically called her a purple whore, and spent a few days verbally assaulting her every time she posted, before he got his account terminated.
On November 14, 1998, dozens of Nebraska fans who had consistently claimed in the past to hold warm feelings for us… turned on us like rabid dogs hearing the attack signal. They even wheeled and attacked their own (those who were trying to remain civil) to the point where that small faction either shut up or started agreeing with them as opposed to actually having some backbone. ‘cause, after all, they wouldn’t want to be called out for being something less than a true red-blooded Husker. I guess.
Never forgot that. Never will, either. If that’s what being the greatest fans ever is all about, I’ll gladly concede the honor.
I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.
by jonfmorse on Jul 18, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
That reminds me of something I read once...
describing somebody or other as the “perfect enemy”. It was something along the lines of, “They were smart. They were determined. They were resourceful. And ultimately, they lost.” Arguably that last bit is the most important.
This is a much more mature and well-written response to anything I've discussed that pretty much sums up my experience...
Except I came into the fray around 1999, and we were mostly hated. There weren’t many friendly feelings at all.
So, maybe my perspective is skewed. Ever since I’ve been a K-State fan, I’ve received nothing but condescending and rude remarks about my university and football team from the majority of Nebraska fans that I’ve encountered. More so than KU. And when KU makes a remark, it’s not really “mean”; it’s just normal rivalry banter. You know a lot of it is hyperbole because it’s a part of the whole deal.
Nebraska fans, however, make it personal. They attack you. KU fans will attack the university, coaches, etc. However, most of the time, we at least hold a level of respect for the person. We just trash the other team/school. Nebraska fans will go after you.
I’ve written some pretty heinous stuff in the past two years under the banner of satire, and I NEVER received one piece of mail from an opposing fan telling me off. This post hadn’t been up for a day before TB got something in his inbox from an NU fan attacking him, personally.
And people wonder why there are some of us that are more than glad to see Nebraska move on to the Big Ten. They can take their special brand of narcissism with them, and we’ll all be better off for it.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jul 18, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's amazing
how two differing perspectives based on time can actually prove one another out, isn’t it? Your perspective isn’t skewed; it’s just…
Imagine a family, one brother quite a bit older than the other. The older brother has memories of dad taking him fishing and playing catch and other dad stuff… but dad went batshit on everyone and left home when the little brother was still a baby, and now all the younger brother knows about dad is that his child support payments are always late. Older brother resents dad for what he lost and how he was treated; younger brother resents him ‘cause all he knows is that dad’s a douche who makes mom cry.
Hmm. And now dad’s threatening not to pay his child support at ALL, isn’t he? I’m liking this analogy less and less!
I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.
Cliff's notes version, please.
“Or maybe some chapter titles, at least.”
Bracketcat Jul 14, 2010 10:46 PM PDT
“If you have a thought or an opinion that you wish to share and it is considered too long to be just a single comment, I recommend you create a fanpost so that your 300 word dissertation can be viewed as it’s own post. Comments that go on and on and on and on are considered poor blog practice. It makes you appear to be rambling, regardless of the points you are trying to make. Nobody likes a rambler.”
Mystman995 Jul 14, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 19, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course, you didn't quote Mystman's first paragraph.
His point wasn’t that people shouldn’t post long comments. His point was that people should avoid doing so until such time as they’ve garnered some level of respect and recognition within the community, as the members of the community will then be more inclined to read said comment and consider it with the gravity they feel it deserves based on the contributor’s history.
Of course, at the same time I recognize that since you’ve been a member of SBNation for less than a week, you have absolutely no idea whether you should or should not take me seriously. Nothing wrong with that, either.
I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.
jonfmorse came into this thread with a big stick and pretty much killed it.
Absolutely killer commenting/message boarding here.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I respectfully disagree
I disagree with your accusation of cherry picking the comments. The same could be said about your retort here – you ignored the ‘humor’ of the ubiquitous Bracketcat.
But all right, so now we know the rules on this site: unless we have used the same nickname/alias consistently and posted a lot, we can only post short, soundbite comments. Got it. Kind of small time (in my opinion, of course), but if that’s how you play your game, OK.
It just strikes me as a rather weak position to take. Especially since you yourself indicated you “knew” a lot of Husker fans due to their consistent use of the same nickname and acceptable level of postings, but they apparently turned into demons all at once and started spewing vitriolic nonsense. So much for “pedigree”.
By the way, it is disingenuous to on one hand denigrate the contributions of new subscribers while on the other crowing about the numbers they bring to ‘your’ site. Not to mention wealth of material you get to virtually giggle and snark at!
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 21, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Now I think you missed MY point.
It’s not “rules”. It’s “advice”.
Look, I’m assuming you’re not inexperienced in discourse on the interwebz. When you’re a recognized part of a community, people are going to be more inclined to pay attention to you than they would be if you’ve just wandered in the door; hell, that’s true in real life, never mind the internet.
It’s not about denigrating anyone’s contributions, it’s merely pointing out human nature. In fact, some of “your guys” have made really good comments in this thread — hell, I even rec’d a couple.
I was just trying to point out that a long comment from me is (a) more likely to be read and (b) less likely to be disregarded by the community’s regular visitors than a long comment from someone they’ve never even seen before. (And, admittedly, lengthy comments from me are, uh, not particularly unexpected. I can spew a lot of verbiage in a very short time. cough) It’s “our” house, so that should be expected, just as we shouldn’t expect to be taken as seriously on a Husker board as we would be here.
I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.
OK - thanks!
I appreciate it the additional explanation, and your delivery even more. Good stuff, helps me to totally see your (and other’s) point on the matter.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 22, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is going to need an overflow thread.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
by Warden11 on Jul 18, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We just need more dilithium crystals...
Maybe I’ve just exposed my inner dork too much…
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Naw, It's Good
Lightens things up a little.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Jul 19, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the greatest thread ever
Don’t let the door hit you in the class on the way out Nub.
Taking it with us
The door that is. So get out that big purple tarp cause it’s gonna get real cold and windy without us to keep the North warm and safe for you guys. C’mon 500!
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