OPEN GAME THREAD: Butler
by BracketCat on Mar 27, 2010 12:15 PM CDT
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No. 2 seed Kansas St. Wildcats (29-7) VS. No. 5 seed Butler Bulldogs (31-4)
NCAA Tournament — Elite Eight
EnergySolutions Arena — Salt Lake City, Utah
Saturday, March 27 — approx. 3:30 PM CST
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It's so sad. We're experiencing the greatest tournament run of my adult lifetime, but I can't seem to find the words to describe the enormity of it all.
I mean, we're potentially less than six hours from being in the Final Four and cutting down the nets in Salt Lake City.
It's surreal.
Maybe when this all is over, I will be able to go back and reflect on what it really meant. But for now, until it's actually in the bag, I'll just watch and wait and see what happens.
Game on.
For a super-basic writeup, I analyzed the game in today's BRACKET BLOG. For K-State's game notes, follow the jump.
From the K-State Sports Information Department:
No. 2 seed Kansas State (29-7, 11-5 Big 12) will play No. 5 seed Butler (31-4, 18-0 Horizon League) in the West Region final at approximately 3:30 p.m. today, at the EnergySolutions Arena.
The winner will earn a spot in the Final Four, with the national semifinals to be held Saturday, April 4, at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Ind.
It marks the 12th time that the Wildcats have advanced to a regional final, including the first time since 1988, when the squad lost to archrival Kansas, 71-58, in the Midwest Region final in Pontiac, Mich., on March 27.
This will be the fourth time that K-State has played in a West Region final (1948, 1951, 1981), including the first since losing to North Carolina, 82-68, in Salt Lake City on March 21, 1981.
The Wildcats have not advanced to the Final Four since 1964.
Kansas State continued its school-record season for wins Thursday, with a dramatic 101-96 double-overtime victory over No. 25 Xavier for its 29th of the season.
It was the Wildcats' first overtime win in three tries this season and the first in double overtime since 1980.
The squad survived multiple runs by the Musketeers at the end of regulation and the first overtime, before junior Jacob Pullen hit back-to-back 3-point field goals in the second overtime, to go with a pair of free throws, to seal the victory.
Pullen led four players in double figures with a team-high 28 points on 9 of 20 field goals, including 6 of 12 from 3-point range, in 40 minutes, while backcourt mate Denis Clemente added 25 points on 10-of-24 shooting, including a pair of treys, with a team-best five assists in 48 minutes.
Junior forward Curtis Kelly had 21 points and a team-high eight rebounds to go with five blocked shots and four assists in 43 minutes.
Sophomore Jamar Samuels posted 14 points and five rebounds off the bench.
Sophomore Jordan Crawford, of Xavier, led all scorers with 32 points, while Terrell Holloway had 26 points.
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Fast tempo
‘Cats need to push the pace, get Clemente and Pullen getting layups and easy looks in transition. Butler doesn’t want to push the tempo.
If we score more than 60, we win.
Plain and simple. Butler hasn’t given up 60 points yet in this tourney.
They don’t have a Holloway, a Crawford or even a Fredette. They have to keep us under 60 to win because they just don’t have the explosiveness and the shooting ability to get into the 70s against a really good team.
If we take care of the ball, don’t put them at the line too much, OWN the boards and play K-State basketball, we should win.
Good luck today gents...
right now it’s hard to find a better guard combo than Pullen and Clemente. If someone is going to beat K-State, they’ll have to slow those two and right now that looks almost impossible at times. There’s only two team left in the tourney that I believe can truly take on that matchup. We’ll see what happens.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
yep...
although I guess I would consider putting Baylor in that mix even though you’ve beaten them twice.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Assuming Kansas State wins this game...
I want no part of Michigan State.
That would be football on the hardwood. We’d probably end up seeing 60 fouls called that game.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I've been bouncing off the walls
Until I threw my back out yesterday evening.
True story.
As sad as that may be.
by BlackCats on Mar 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's a crazy feeling to not be the underdog
in a huge game like this. It shows how far we’ve come. For the underdog to lose and go home is expected, but no one expects Kstate to lose this. No matter where this ends it brings tears to your eyes to watch our guys play and bond together. Call me purple-blooded but there is no team in the tourney that wants this as much as us (maybe West Virg). I’ve never even met the guys, but I feel like I know them as I’m sure most of you do to. Win or lose, I wish I could be there when they arrive back from Salt Lake City. We owe them so much for the hard work they have done and may they play their absolute best here out. Get ready to roll Cats!!!
Get ready to roll...Go Cats!
I can't wait for this game.
I’m already shaking. This is among the most important K-State games since I’ve been alive.
I just … feel like there is more at stake than this season. This game could be K-State’s redemption. And it could set the tone for years to come.
I am speechless.
Going to be having some company over today to watch the game, so I won’t be on the Game Thread. However, I’ll read it later (why not?) and last but nowhere near least – GO ’CATS!!!
--VegasCat07
CBS has another good K-State Confidential
Merriewether thanking everybody for winning the game, saying he would never have been able to live down that foul if they hadn’t.
Sorry, forgot the link
http://www.cbscollegesports.com/expectanything/embed.html?vPath=http://www.cbscollegesports.com/media/video/kstateconfidential/S_MERRIEWETHER_REAX_0326.flv
I find it amazing
That we made our statement pretty suddenly. Yes we were in the NCAA two years ago but that was expected with Beasley and Walker, then not being in last year was disappointing because we were on the bubble. But no one expected us to go from not in to the elite 8 and favorite in this game. It is pretty surreal and I just hope this is only the beginning for many decades (however they might be counted) to come. Play well Cats and get it done!!
GO STATE!!!!
agreed...
I’m definitely more a fan of the way K-State has done it. You can actually grow to know the Kansas State players a bit and don’t feel so much like you’ve hired 8 prostitutes for a one shot gangbang like Kentucky
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Getting chills every few minutes
Planning on Butler hedging our screens like crazy so Pullen can’t come off it for a wide open 3. We HAVE to be looking for rolls to the bucket cause they’re gonna be overplaying every screen at the top of the key.
Just Wabash already!
I was walking around OKC today in a K-State shirt and
you wouldn’t believe the number of people congratulating me on the game Thursday and wishing the Cats good luck….pretty amazing.
Well, here we go...
Heart rate elevated. Breathing constricted.
Shit.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Alright,, I'm going to say it...
I like Bill Self. You all can chastise me if you want. I think he’s a nice guy, and he’s got a very disarming personality.
I’d love to sit with him on a back porch somewhere and drink a beer, eat a burger, and talk about basketball.
Then I’d tell him to beat the Morris twins with a lead pipe. But that’s a different conversation altogether.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I think if you asked him to beat Tyshawn with the pipe...
he might…the Morris twins though, they actually turned the corner this year so he might hesitate. : )
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I was under the assumption that Taylor already beat himself stupid? :)
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
that or our football team did...
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Alright...on with the beard fearing, Puerto Rico-loving, R-Rated lovefest that's about to ensue...
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
KAAAAAAAY...ESSSSSS....YOUUUUUUU...WILDCATS!
I’ll be doing the Wabash Cannonball in my gold Mizzou basketball shorts.
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Coming at you from inside the arena.
We have a good purple crowd going! One guy said it looks like manhattan which was an exageration but gives you an idea. Here’s to hopefully cutting down the nets in a couple hours!!!
by Clubbzilla on Mar 27, 2010 3:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
IF K-State wins, what are the odds on Frank yelling at the nets
and the nets getting down on their own?
by AMS on Mar 27, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have rec'd this because it's funny.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
big fan of the mobile commenting
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They're showing pictures of the trophy on TV right now. Shit's getting real.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hope you guys don't mind...
I’ll probably bounce between here and RCT for this one.
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The more the merrier...
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I want to be 18-22 again and good at basketball so I could play for Frank Martin
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I figure I may as well ask before we get started
anyone got any spare nitroglycerine tablets?
This space for rent.
I'm going to get a paper bag to hyperventilate into later
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Everyone get ready...this is the shit GUS JOHNSON(!!!) lives for.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
AAAAAAHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We have a shot. I didn't see John Higgins in that officiating list.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
WE WON THE TIP
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
White man alley oops don't end well
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Did I just see Lu try to lead transition? I'll be damned.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Gawd
Lu is just SO DAMNED PLODDING. He does everything slow. He probably doesn’t even fall at 32 ft/sec/sec.
This space for rent.
I love those CK hooks
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I like how they're going inside. It's a good strategy with what they're giving us.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Yeah, there was a guy, I think CK cutting early
but Denis couldn’t see him because the defense was in his face.
CK is our offense.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The first wave of reserves are coming in. This is where we'll have our advantage.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The perimeter defense for Butler is really, really good.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Three fouls on Butler. Keep. Attacking. The. Rim.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We're playing to Butler's tempo.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Two on Howard.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Jesus Christ, Dom. Hit a fucking shot.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Nice stick back, Wallace
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Wally, again, with a nice stick back.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
He's missing point blank layups. He's not in it mentally.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's like the basketball gods hate him.
Maybe he’ll be OK in the second, with the other basket.
Get Dom the fuck out of the game.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
This has nothing to do with Xavier. Dom is trying to do shit he doesn't need to do and is wasting posessions.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Were playing slow but not because we are tires
by Clubbzilla on Mar 27, 2010 3:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
These guys can't compete with your bigs...
start hitting FT’s and finishing some of these bunnies and it’ll start looking a lot better.
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If 2/5 is the hot hand
Youch. Bring on the judge.
speaking of...
I was hoping he’d go uncensored with that and we’d just here a series of bleeps with various words in between.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Pullen has shot the ball once.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Just keep going inside.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Kelly is having a hell of a weekend
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Lu totally blew that one on the screen.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Fucking Dom
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I give up. They look dead tired and like they don't even want it.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Enjoy getting your rest while watching Butler in the Final Four.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
patience buddy...
your guys have been tested all year. They may have tired legs but I wouldn’t even come close to counting them out yet. They’re as tough as anyone in the country. They’ll give it a run here somewhere.
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Stevens is forcing the ball into Sutton's hands because he knows that's our weakest offensive link. Brillaint coaching.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Well, second to Lu.
But Sutton is playing right into it.
Lu has no excuse. Dom isn't mentally strong. You can rattle him easily.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's too early to freak out
But I don’t like this at all.
We don't pass well enough for that.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Imagine watching Lu try to do that. (Shudders)
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We're almost through the first half, and Pullen and Clemente are 0-3. Just three fucking shots.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Make that 0-4
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was a bad layup attempt.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Merriweather to Colon. And anyone wonders why we're 5-19?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Fuck this.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Butler. Fucking Butler.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We're getting outcoached to be honest. Butler is bottling up Clemente and Pullen, and all of the other guys are epic failing.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Except Kelly and Judge.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
There you go.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The perimeter defense is beautiful by Butler.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Any time a team can take away your two best weapons
Your time in the tournament probably is drawing to an end.
Kelly was fouled on that shot.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I don't know about that
But I think everyone but the refs thought it was a foul
Bracket called it
We need over 60 pts to win
That ain't happening at this pace,
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Kelly and Judge are the only two who have scored. All game.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We need them both out there at the same time.
More threats means someone might get open that actually can score.
Only Kelly and Judge have scored
have to somehow get the others involved
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
This is the nightmare scenario I had when I woke up this morning.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Welcome to life as a KSU fan. We just can't have nice things.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Another missed layup...
I’m crying in the inside
They are schooling us so bad.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's been a good season, guys. At least we return pretty much everybody next year.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
20 some points, 4 blocks against Xavier I think
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It was only 14 points
He needs to grow up big-time in the offseason. His game still has so many holes.
Yup
We might have had a half or two with fewer points, but we just looked terrible out there.
I have no faith for a second half.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
come on...
have some faith. You guys have two of the best guards in the tourney. If they get going…we could see a big run rather quickly.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
They can't. Butler is bottling them up something fierce.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I know that's the case at the moment...
I just don’t believe you can bottle them up all game. And to only be down 7 with as little as you’ve gotten from Pullen/Clemente is not a bad deal. Curtis Kelly has been huge.
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We're officially in upside-down world
A Hawk fan is trying to pep-talk us.
Will wonders never cease?
I've been in your shoes....
and I do the same thing, I flip. It’s a little easier to pep talk when you don’t really have a dog in the fight.
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Well, you guys are all doom and gloom to be down 7 to a good Butler team, wait for it, in the ELITE EIGHT
Whereas you could have easily been ousted by BYU or Xavier, and sitting at home with KU, Cuse, Ohio State, Georgetown, Villanova… need I say more? 20 minutes are left to played, and we’ve seen what this team can do.
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was BS
If they won’t put us at the line for obvious fouls, I don’t know what the hell else we can do.
I wonder if we get to hear Frank's halftime speech
hmmm….probably not.
are you saying it probably won't include the word silly?
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hmmmmm.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say no. haha
Honestly that's the way I'd want it with Frank Martin....
he’s intense, passionate and his personality has grown on me.
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That's nice to hear
It seems like a lot of outsiders see him as an out of control, loud, abusive, psycho coach.
nah...not at all...
I may have thought that once upon a time, but when you see what he gets out of his team…it’s impossible to argue that his passion and work ethic clearly drives the team as well. I doubted the hire when it was made, which many did. Now, I think he was a great move for K-State and should continue this upward trend for quite some time. I like him the way I liked Norm Stewart at Mizzou I suppose.
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should read...
“impossible to argue against the fact that his passion…”
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I agree
I was somewhat skeptical, but obviously the university made the right decision.
from my end of things....
I’d quote Walter from the Big Lebowski…
“worthy f*cking adversary.”
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Thanks for being such as class act by the way
I wish there were more ’Hawk fans like you.
there are a lot...
they just probably aren’t the ones up in your face all the time. The fans that tend to stand out in a fanbase are the loud obnoxious ones.
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You know that you're our official 'favorite' Jayhawk.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I’ll carry that title proudly…I think : )
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You're a made man here. No one can touch Denver. It's offlimits.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We were outrebounded, out 'stolen', and outscored
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
McGruder must really be in Frank's doghouse
I can’t think of another reason he hasn’t played
Yes, this is on Frank
We supposedly have this huge bench.
Very little Judge, no McGruder, no Russell, no JHR, very little Irving.
Instead, Frank puts the same guys out there who played 40 against Xavier, who already are dog-ass tired and playing like it, and makes them more tired.
We probably deserve to lose. I just hope he learns from it and our entire bench is better able to help us next season.
K-State fans, you just can't throw in the towel now
Of course they were going to be tired. They managed to find a way to keep it reasonably close at halftime, they can find a way to win.
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not throwing in the towel
But we have made winning this game a lot harder.
This is definitely the case
but it’s the NCAA tourney. You can’t expect to get an easy road to the Final Four
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
But, but, but
Lu has as many points, more rebounds, and as many assists as Clemente and Pullen combined.
I counted a LOT of missed layups.
Clemente is missing shots that are normally sure hitters…
No other team in the elite 8 has had our road thus far...
Ken Pom has BYU at 10, XU at 15, and Butler at 14.
That kind of run is incredibly hard to pull off.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I woke up this morning and thought, "I wonder where I could buy a Final Four t-shirt". Nevermind.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Dom is tired, I guess.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That can be said of everyone other than Kelly and Judge.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
He had open shots. He just didn't hit them. It wasn't really selfish. It was just awful.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
JamSam has been trash tonight.
3 fouls. no points?
He has a board.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
On the bench
Either in the doghouse or Frank doesn’t trust his bench.
I have a question
Is Curtis Kelly eligible to play for K St next year?
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes. He's a Junior.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Thanks
For some reason (and maybe the rules were changed recently), I thought transferring meant you lost a year of eligibility.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Redshirted during that transfer year.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Oh I see.
Thank You again.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
My lack of faith has been chastised on GPC. It's kind of funny.
I should have brought my pom poms and kool aid.
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Gus Johnson has pimp glasses. I want some of those.
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3 second calls are like offensive holding. It happens all of the time, but you can only call it when blatant.
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WE HIT A FREE THROW!!!
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Just one though.
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A made free throw is like gold.
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Viva lad Denis Clemente
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Oh what do you know?
Back in it just like that
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
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Yeah. It's Mitch Holthus' thing.
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I'm glad they packed the Red Bull.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Had to help bleed my dad's truck's brakes
What did I miss?
I don't know if Jake will get his ten. The streak may come to an end.
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We can't keep blowing layups for Christ's sake, and it seems like the only guys shooting them is Luis.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Pullen's got a huge mental block going
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
And our run is stopped by a Butler run.
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Good job, Jamar
Selfish drive on three guys, nothing, don’t get back, leave your guy wide open.
Please foul out already.
Everything that can go wrong is going wrong.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's SLC...and I'll give you one guess...
the primary difference between K-State and Butler in terms of the team makeup : )
I’m joking please no one take offense here. I’d assume it’s just people rooting for the underdog.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Wally got the shit hacked out of him on the dunk
No call.
Dom got the shit hacked out of him on the second shot.
Travel.
I’m done with these refs. It’s just not happening.
What do you do or say to get these guys back in it?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Butler has got in their heads.
I don’t know if there is much you can say…
Elmore is kind of dogging the refs, as he should.
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These refs are being ridiculously upset biased
it’s unbelievable.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
"Butler's first Elite Eight! They could go to their home for the Final Four!"
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, when this is over, I'm going to go fix my storm door. So, I've got that going for me.
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Dnis hit one.
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That was a horrible shot by Jake, now Howard goes to the line...sigh
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Butler. Fucking Butler.
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Which is a good and underrated team
Teams that get this far aren’t flukes.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys we had a good run
I know everyone is pissed as hell, but look at the whole pictue.
It’s been a great season!
I agree. When it wears off, and I look back at the year, I'll remember it as a really, really fun ride.
Right now, I’m trying to deflect and brace myself for the pain.
But it’s been a really fun ride.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
You guys are only down 8 you know...?
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Butler continued their unreal 3pt shooting. 6-12 thus far.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
understandable...
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Also, you aren't a K-State fan. The cosmos hates us.
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I've never seen the Tigers make the Final Four
but then again, NOBODY has.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think we have
the energy or will to win this game.
Very negative perspective, but I think that’s the reality of the situation.
This is Wisconsin all over again
After the season, Frank needs to look a finding some answers for this.
What do I mean?
Halfcourt-oriented, slow-it-down, Big Ten-style teams. They set the pace, they deny 3s (we had 0 against Wisky, only 1 today), they clog the paint, and they rebound like mad.
As long as we’re dependent on transition ball and woefully pathetic in the half court sets, these teams will always cause our exits from the tournament.
Didn't think about that, but I agree 100%
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Oh joy, Butler's in the one on one.
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I swear to god
If he had two years of eligibility left, CK would transfer after this game. It’s like they’re deliberately not giving him the ball.
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Why are we not taking the ball in every trip?
Our outside shots aren’t falling….clearly..
Anyone notice that Rodney's in the game
and making some plays? Gee, too bad he sat on the bench the whole first half.
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Damnit
Jake’s trying to be Atlas now, but he’s not on it enough to carry the game.
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You want to hear the ironic thing? I picked UTEP to beat Butler in the first round. HA HA
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Yes, Frank did not have them prepared
That’s on him, and he’d be the first to tell you that.
I just hope he learns from this.
I was thinking the same during the game - outcoached
We should have been going inside the whole effing game. Is it ego to think we have to beat teams with our guards?
I think it's more of a case of
“Dance with the one who brung ya.”
This year, it was Jake and Denis.
Next year, it will be Jake and Curtis, and we’ll hopefully have more inside-outside balance.
Upon reflection...
I think the starting lineup should have been Clemente, Pullen, Kelly, JHR, McGruder or Judge or Irving. I think Butler would have had a pucker factor to look out and see the 2 imposing towers with 3 legitimate guards on the floor. It sure would have put their whole double team their guards quickly scheme in question. With three mid-long range threats and two dominant inside threats I think we would have caught them off-guard. Instead we played our normal set which is exactly what they schemed their D around. Its hard to say as fatigue was a factor.
In my 20/20 hindsight,
there are many lineup options that could have done better and might not have done worse. I’m just going to trust Frank in that he coached the game the way he though was in K-State’s best winning interest.
JHR, however, is quite unlikely to have been able to defend the nifty inside sets Butler ran to get easy looks vs. Kelly/Colon underneath. His length may have helped him recover, but that is a pretty big if on that.
Fatigue could have been a factor, but I feel confident it was unlikely to have been a major contributing factor. If Denis making the late 3-pter to take a brief lead, with a trip to the Final Four on the line, didn’t give guys a special boost of energy from somewhere down deep then I am not sure what more/better/normal rest could have done. :-S
--VegasCat07
When you're beat you're beat
Yeah, you’ll get spurts of adrenaline, and hell yeah you’re trying your hardest and doing everything you can to banish the fatigue, mentally…
But.
If the legs are gone, they’re gone. You might not be feeling pain, you might not even be feeling the fatigue, but it’s there. And as we all know, it’s a big reason why shots were coming up short. (Most notably, it also has an effect on free-throw percentage; most players approach free-throws in a particular fashion, and a little wobbly-knees will work wonders to mess that up.) Further, the mental effort necessary to combat the fatigue necessarily distracts from the mental effort necessary to concentrate on the game.
There are folks who will say “Yeah, well, they should have better conditioning, blah blah” but the reality is that no matter how well-conditioned you are, if you play an extra 10 minutes of hard-fought, desperate basketball on Thursday, you’re going to be more tired on Saturday than you normally would have been… and no matter how well-conditioned you are, you’re still not going to be at your best on Saturday. You may still be good enough, but there’s still going to be a dropoff from your baseline “rested” performance.
And it was that dropoff that killed us Saturday. We probably missed some FTs we otherwise would have made, and Jake completely tanked a couple of threes which nearly everyone here immediately ascribed to his legs failing him, and there were lapses in concentration which cost us a few points one way or the other. Add Denis’ injury onto that, and, well… yeah.
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Butler is 7-13 from three. They are absolutely a team of destiny.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hey guys.....got a late start, meant to be here for the game.....
what’s happening, are they still dragging from the OT game??
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Butler is our kryptonie...white guys who slow the game down and hit a lot of threes.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Well, I'll give Frank a little credit
He at least realized that without Judge and McGruder, we don’t stand a chance.
Unfortunately, they’ve had a few too many defensive and rebounding lapses because they haven’t played enough minutes in crunch time.
Oh, well.
Wish we would have looked for Kelly more, too. Guards are trying to do too much now. They have Sherronitis.
Yeah, but it's a simple formula. Double the guards, slow the game down, hit a lot of threes.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's not like he's being really outcoached; they're just unconscious from three and they're outrebounding us.
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McGruber!
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That was Kelly with the foul
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Why is he fouling him at halfcourt?
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Dude, please don't lecture us. Our fan base has been beaten down for decades.
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never quit....never surrender......lol......Frank has one more in him.....lets see him pull this out
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Every time someone says that, I think of the very end of Short Circuit 2...
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hey, Jake got his ten. The streak is alive and well. Mike Evans' record is officially in danger.
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2 point game
5 minutes. Let’s go
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
AAAAAAHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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In all fairness, I've been watching Hayward's second dribble all day. He's always losing control on the bounce after his move.
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Mike, I love the enthusiasm, but this defies everything I know as a KSU fan.
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Wow. Didn't see that coming.
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Of course you didn't
you have a good team, you shouldn’t be pissing so much negativity when they have it in them. And I’m a Mizzou fan, so I feel I have some right to point this out
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how to handle success. That's what I'm going to go with.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Alrighty then :-)
Go Cats!
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You want crunch time, you got it
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
I am taking some credit for the comeback.....lol.....fresh keyboard and all.....lol
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Don't let the Duke schoolboy face fool ya :-)
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or do the rims seem tight in SLC?
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They've made that clonky noise.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That shot was halfway down...
I hope that’s not a sign..
Where is Butler at in terms of fouls this half?
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8
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
K St has 10
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Cool. Thanks.
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Of course Howard hits the first.
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That was a helluva move by Denis.
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I'm growing to hate white basketball players. Does that make me a self-loather?
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Frank better be using every ounce of energy to scream about defense
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, that wasn't good.
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Short jumper
big big sign of fatigue
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 27, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
We have to score here. No questions.
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I'm getting really tired of watching Butler players dry humping our guards.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Our Defense couldn't step up tonight.
When we most needed it.
Outhustled..
And the cosmos reminds us once again that we're K-State. Good season, guys. I'm looking forward to 2010-2011
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
you guys have had one helluva year, and you have a coach that will be one of the
greats before he is done
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Really, it all goes back to one play
The missed foul at the end of regulation Thursday.
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well...
fatique aside, they didn’t play ball like they needed to until the last part of the second half. There is no excuse for the first half…
Great run fellas...
I feel for Clemente, he’s been a fun player to watch these past couple years…and as a Kansas fan I’m anticipating a HUNGRY K-State in ‘10-’11.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
CBS got what they wanted; a mid-major in the Final Four that will bump ratings.
We get to wait for next year.
I love these guys. I really do. It’s sad that it has to end this way.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Not really
They were dreading it. George Mason killed ratings.
They better hope the hometown heroes angle does it for them, because watching a Michigan State-Butler game will be like watching paint dry.
I'd rather watch paint dry
It isn’t even like we can tune in to root for a team we had in at least one of our 10 brackets… I had MSU in the Final Four, but who the fuck cares to watch MSU-Butler? Sure as hell not me.
--VegasCat07
I do have to say that KSU received no help from the refs today.
It wasn’t the only reason but it played a part.
I wonder if Clemente's injury played a role in how he played...
I think it did, did you guys see him limping?
big time.
But hell, we got beat by a coach who looks like he’s my age (I’m 20) and by a player who looks like he could be in middle school .
I couldn't believe all the times Butler manuvered around Dom for offensive boards
and he was useless offensively. Butler knew which guys were no threat on O, it was like 2 against 5 today.
All my anger aside...
I hope Butler wins it all now.
This team
will be better next year. Denis was a fighter, but Colon was always a liability on defense and horrid on offense.
Colon, Offense?
jokes aside, I have to agree. Who are the newcommers?
A little perspective is in order ...
I was at KSU in 1988 and I am not nearly as disappointed as I was then. We had beaten KU multiple times and there was no doubt we were the better team that year. Yes , it hurts, but if you had told me that this was where we would end up at the beginning of the season I would have been very happy. Butler had a good game plan and we didn’t win. Maybe we can get there next year.
by TheGoodOmen on Mar 27, 2010 5:58 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If it had been Syracuse and not Butler, I think everyone would be OK with it.
Well, Butler beat Syracuse fair and square.
And we did what our seed said we should do.
Silver linings
1. Jake ain’t going pro.
2. Nobody’s coming after Frank.
3. We got beat by a team that played better defense than us and out-rebounded us. Frank will stew about that all off-season. I don’t think you’ll see the kind of defensive lapses you saw today next season.
Goals for next year:
Win the Big 12. Get to the Final Four. Both are attainable.
Look at it this way: The first time, we couldn’t get past the first weekend. The second time, we couldn’t get past the second weekend. How far can we get the third time?
It’s all about baby steps. We’re not going anywhere.
thanks bracket
thats a good point and both of those teams were under Frank. Well see what happens next season. Good season, Cats!!!
Go 'Cats!!!
Big lesson of the game
Eventually in the tourney, you will run into a team so good at defense that you cannot beat them without FIVE legit scoring threats on the court at one time.
Butler was that team.
That means you can’t run out there with Lu and play 4-on-5. It means no Merriewether. And frankly, given his lack of development, no Sutton.
Our best lineup today, IMO
was Denis, Jake, Rodney, Curtis and Wally.
Next year, we need to start Jake at the 1, Rodney at the 2, Curtis at the 4 and Wally at the 5.
The 3 should be an open audition.
Jamar, Dom, Shane Southwell — I don’t fracking care.
But it better be someone who can score. If Jamar gets his head straight and doesn’t disappear for entire games, he’s the one. But I gotta see it to believe it.
Judge and Henriquez-Roberts
both need to hit the gym. I hear Russell is the real deal as a point guard. Although I feel next year’s team will be more talented, as KU showed, you can have a great squad but nothing is guaranteed in this tournament.
Which is why we should be ecstatic with the run we had
Frank’s just a third-year coach and he got us this far. He’ll learn and he’ll get better.
Bill Self’s been coaching for a while. What’s his excuse?
Nope
He’s doing that this year at a junior college. He’s still playing and using a year of eligibility, but he’ll be able to come in right away.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Hey, guys
If you want to stick around and discuss the UK-WVU game, feel free. I’ll be here for a while.
I like the black-and-yellow jerseys, Huggs.
West Virginia = no FGs in 5.5 minutes
Now who does that sound like?
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…
Want to say Thanks to the Cats
I actually remember the last time K-State was in the elite 8 with Mitch Richmond. It has been a long frustrating dryspell of hoops ineptitude. This years team was so much fun to watch. Sure it was dissapointing to lose today, but what an enjoyable ride this tourney was. Thanks to this K-State team and Coach Martin for a wonderful year to remember.At least for once in a really long time we went further then that team to the east on I-70.
by powercat on Mar 27, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
couldn't agree more
Thanks for the fun ride this year to the entire basketball program.
Clemente, thanks for the great Senior Season; wish you well in your future endeavours!
I'm not altogether sure
I can handle the thought of West Virginia winning it all.
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Congrats on a good run, guys...
…I was having a minor existential crisis rooting for your team to do well while simultaneously wanting Mizzou to make a Final Four before K-State could, but I’d grown fond of quite a few KSU players, and I’d have been happy for both them and you guys had they pulled it off today. You’re pretty stocked for next year too, so you’ve got that to look forward to.
Rock M Nation
I'm on Twitter! http://www.twitter.com/billconnelly1
Thanks to our Big12 North Brethren for the support.
Enjoyed following eachother’s games on the other SB Nation sites. Rock M does a really good job with analysis and humor.
Just noticed: no machine gunning kitties from Pan. THAT was the difference today!
It felt to me
like Butler’s defensive game plan was to guard us in our jerseys – save for Lu, Dom, and Merriewether. By in our jerseys, I mean start out guarding so tight and aggressive that it is likely a foul, which early on it was called. Then they backed it off bit by bit until they were nearly in our jerseys (and on many occasions physically contacting us in a way that impeded offensive movment - a foul) but not being called for fouls. And at that point, stuck with it. A tired team is VERY unlikely to outscore the opponent with 3 offensive liabilities that have energy and the rest of the roster tired or riding the pine. If you had told me Howard would have the game he had today and that we would avoid foul trouble as we did, I would have been confident (turns out falsely so) of a ’Cats victory.
Sidenote: Is Dom going to end up being Kansas State’s Aaron Bruce – what I mean is a player starting with such promise and ending up delivering so very little by the end of his career? What a sad thing that would be… but Dom does have time to avoid such a fate.
--VegasCat07
Also, apologies on all these comments
at the end ‘well after’ the fact/game – but I was unable to follow the thread live…
Was I alone in feeling like taking the lead on Denis’ 3-pointer off a missed FT offensive rebound was a sign that out team was going to draw energy from the comeback and finish it out? Turns out it was just foolish drunk-thinkery to believe the team had anywhere from which to draw such energy. In hindsight, what a great game plan and such precise execution of the plan by Butler. Wow. Even so, given equal rest and ‘standard’ time to recoup from the previous game, I have no doubt we would win 7 out of 10 games vs that Butler team. Unfortunately, that’s not how March works – and we ran out of gas and the magical season has ended.
Denis, that was a wonderful ride and I only wish I had come to fully appreciate what you brought to the court for this team so much sooner. The last 10 or 12 games this year – having by that point finally grasped what you game is all about – were fun to watch and I hope you take great pride in what you accomplished at Kansas State University. Best of luck to you in the future.
Lu, your work ethic is something most any collegiate basketball player should strive to match. What you lacked in athletic ability and God-given basketball talent you tried your best to make up for with hustle and try-as-hard-as-I-can effort. Some may disagree on this, but I applaud and am happy that Frank played Lu how he did – sure maybe we win with Lu playing 0 minutes today, but damn it he hustled and tried his best… which is more than I can honestly say for Dom.
Very similar things come to mind regarding Chris Merriewether – just a bit more athletic ability than Lu.
All in all, this was one helluva a run by our ‘Cats this year and I’ll remember it for a while to come. Hey BOTC, what kind of baseball season coverage are you thinking you’ll be able to throw our way? Just curious. Otherwise, here’s to looking forward to the upcoming football season!
It was fun this year (basketball) and thanks for all the coverage Panjandrum, TB, and most of all BracketCat.
--VegasCat07
I was supremely disappointed by this game
Before the game, it felt like this might be a team of destiny, especially after the game against Xavier. But we just didn’t have any miracles left.
As disappointing as the game was, we should put it in perspective. As a two seed getting to the Elite Eight, we met seeding expectations. Considering we started the season outside the top 25, I think it’s fair to say the team exceeded almost everybody’s expectations.
I will be sad to see Denis go, and I hope he can make the NBA. If not, a top-tier league awaits him in Europe, I expect. Lu and Chris will be missed too, but not their clunkers.
Looking forward to next season, we have a great returning high-low combo in Pullen and Kelly. If you would have told me at the start of Big XII play that Kelly would be one of the master cogs in a great tournament run, I wouldn’t have believed you.
Pullen will remain a great floor leader, I expect, and Mike Evans record of 2,115 points is well in play. Jake needs 610 points to pass him. This year he posted 715.
Jamar mostly disappeared in the tournament, but I expect him to rebound. Wally demonstrated some of his capabilities, and he should continue to grow. On top of that, we’re returning Dom (don’t hate), Rodney, Russell, JHR, Bulltavious, and Ojeleye. Plus we have another good recruiting class coming.
2009-10 was a year of modest expectations and great results. But next season, K-State will be expected to compete. I can’t wait.
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