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BIG 12 TOURNAMENT OUTLOOK: 03.13.10 (Open Game Thread)

After a long and historic season, it all comes down to this: 40 minutes of basketball separating K-State from its first Big 12 men's basketball championship ever.

I'm so damn tired of losing to these guys. I sat through their victory in the final game two seasons ago, and that was insufferable enough. Words cannot describe how horrific it will feel to hear that bloody chant echoing off the Sprint Center rafters if we drop a sixth straight game to the University of Kansas.

So let's win instead. Losing is easy, and it won't cost us a thing. But winning takes guts, and those have been on display aplenty this week. Winning means something — it sends a message and it sets a tone for next year.

And most important, winning temporarily will silence one of the most vocal fan bases in all of March Madness. How sweet would that be?

Sagarin's prediction: No. 1 Kansas 86, No. 2 Kansas State 80 (5 p.m., ESPN)

Aw, go to hell, Sagarin.

Star-divide

Yesterday's Results

  • No. 1 Kansas 79, No. 4 Texas A&M 66
  • No. 2 Kansas State 82, No. 3 Baylor 75

Unfortunately, Sagarin has his thumb firmly on the pulse of this particular Big 12 Tournament. After upset-minded Session 1 came to an end, it's been all chalk since then.

For the sake of the Wildcats, let's hope that pattern doesn't continue today.

Poll
Who will claim the automatic bid as the Big 12 Tournament Champion?
Kansas Jayhawks
25 votes
Kansas State Wildcats
29 votes

54 votes | Poll has closed

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Let me kick off this thread in the most appropriate manner possible

In honor of our recently vanquished Baylor friends:

IT’S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME, MOTHERF**KAS!!!

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Bracket...

just to be clear…this is for the Big 12 tournament championship…the Big 12 does distinguish in basketball as do most conferences.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

Um, do you really think I don't know that?

Congrats on the regular season title, but if we win tonight, they’re going to call us the Big 12 Champion on the Selection Show tomorrow.

Don’t diminish that accomplishment.

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 3:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Glad to know you are aware and I'm not diminishing it...

I was just putting it in the proper perspective since you didn’t appear to do so with your statement. And yes, it would be a very nice accomplishment for K-State to win.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Cats gotta stay focused the entire game

It seems there is a point in every game where the Cats going into a lull. Have to maintain focus and intensity throughout the ENTIRE game.

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

I would just like to point out at this time

That the Cats have beat every single Big 12 team at least once this season, save for one.

Time to check off the last box on the last.

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 3:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Just saw

a facebook status, yanno, the standard “rock chalk jayhawk” in all caps with about a bajillion exclamation marks after it. Only they spelled it ChaWk, with a W. How stupid.

Just Wabash already!

by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 13, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Unholly Alliance Status Check

All systems GO.
Best of luck Tonight Cats!

Great moments are born from great opportunity.

by muwxman on Mar 13, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks

I can’t imagine MU not making it. Good luck to you guys in the tourney.

by Sean T on Mar 13, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Purdue

Anyone watching that game?!

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 4:16 PM CST reply actions  

Can they

get double digits by halftime? 20 seconds left with 9 points

Just Wabash already!

by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 13, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Purdue sure looks like a #1 seed !?!

Down 32-8 to Minnesota with 2:12 left in first half!

by DrJoy on Mar 13, 2010 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

Well I think

Purdue is out of the discussion for a one seed haha

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm curious...

what are you guys hearing in terms of a #1 if you win tonight? It seems if Duke and WVU win their tournaments the media is more than ready to grant either one the #1 before KSU, but I’d sure think you guys have a pretty good argument.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 4:22 PM CST reply actions  

Screw the media

that’s all i’m hearing too. Duke beat Miami, pretty tough win. The Big East tournament fell apart, and Ohio State would have lost their last two games if 1. Beilein wasn’t an idiot and 2. If Illinois could play D in the last possession.

Should probably resign ourselves to accepting a 2, so we’re not pissed tomorrow night.

Just Wabash already!

by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 13, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I can see Duke's argument...

close win aside, it was a win. As far as West Virginia or Ohio State…I’m not buying it.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine

with Duke, they’ve got a fairly good resume, and I know we’ve been competing with them for that 1 seed the last couple weeks, and we just lost to Iowa State. If WVU or Ohio State get it, it’ll be pretty crappy.

Just Wabash already!

by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 13, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

completely agree

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think

The Big 10 is garbage. Aka. Purdue. I understand that we will be a two seed, but a Big 10 team better not get a one seed either.

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The Big 10 tournament...

is hands down the one that I watch and can’t get excited about…it’s just horrible.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Mar 13, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

better for me!

The later this tip the closer I get to home and my TV!

:-/

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 5:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Amen

This is bullshit. Two teams that won’t do a damned thing in the tourney, on top of two top-10 squads. WTF?

by Sean T on Mar 13, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Worst start imaginable

Poor defense, questionable rebounding, Jake’s cold as ice, Denis hurt his hand.

3 fouls on us, none on them. John Higgins and Mark Whitehead are the refs.

Lookin’ ugly…

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 5:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yup

Dammit. But still, even with that, only down by a little

by Sean T on Mar 13, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Well we survived that early slump

The perimeter D is looking good. We need to watch the hi-low though..

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

But we also lose Colon.

And all of our other players gain a year of experience.

by KC_Rose on Mar 13, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Little pussy Aldrich flailing around

KU Fans outraged at the audacity to call one on Aldrich, shut up about it.

by ohiocats84 on Mar 13, 2010 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

This is close

I don’t think it’s good. :(

by KC_Rose on Mar 13, 2010 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

how can every bounce and close call go to KU...

I think Self sold his soul to the Devil

Get ready to roll...Go Cats!

by mjk7166 on Mar 13, 2010 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

Are you kidding?

He WORKS for the Devil — Lewcifer Perkins.

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

shooting 31% and NO FREE THROWS and only down 4

Like all of our losses this year…we have to make shots to win as Bobby Knight points out lol

Get ready to roll...Go Cats!

by mjk7166 on Mar 13, 2010 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

We're lucky

With giving us easy baskets to KU and not creating quality shots for anyone on offense. Can someone other than Jake and Denis please step up?

by ksucats97 on Mar 13, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

I'd call it

A self-interested point of view. :-P

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

thank you

Get ready to roll...Go Cats!

by mjk7166 on Mar 13, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Wally Judge

does he only show up against KU?

by KC_Rose on Mar 13, 2010 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

I hate to sound negative, but this looks like the game in lawrence

We got within a few points, but could never seize control and gain the lead

by powercat12 on Mar 13, 2010 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

We aren't getting good shots

whereas KU keeps getting open looks right by the basket. This is a problem.

by KC_Rose on Mar 13, 2010 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

we need to figure out

How to win 6 in a row REAL SOON! .

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 6:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

f*** this

Get ready to roll...Go Cats!

by mjk7166 on Mar 13, 2010 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

sorry

I’m afraid my drunken rage persona, St Anger, has started to take over.

by checklight on Mar 13, 2010 7:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Kelly now looks lost on O. Thank God for JamSam, I like his shot

Still wish we could drive and get fouls, but then our FT shooting is so poor it wouldn’t matter.

by ohiocats84 on Mar 13, 2010 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

deja vu

Posts there…

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 7:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Aldrich fouls out

but it’s too late to matter.

by KC_Rose on Mar 13, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Well, his first with five personal fouls

He fouled out earlier this year, but the fifth was a technical.

Technicalities, I know.

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

As soon as Aldrich got his 4th,

I bet my fiance’s sister (KU student) $20 that the refs wouldn’t let Alrdrich foul out of the game. And what do you know. God damn ogre. Thanks a lot. I should’ve known better. Just my luck.

by gwp on Mar 13, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Sloopy

…all the way around.

by ksucats97 on Mar 13, 2010 7:31 PM CST reply actions  

Be glad you guys werent at PnL.

New levels of douchery were obtained.

by checklight on Mar 13, 2010 8:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Bitter? You're damned right I'm bitter.

31 FTs vs 14. That is criminal. God damned refs. That KSU only lost by 8 with that kind of bullshit speaks volumes to how good the team played, but I’ll be angry about this for a while.

by Sean T on Mar 13, 2010 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

I am upset too, but,

I just finished a quick buzz back through my game-recording and the referees were ‘decent’ (keeping in mind, they were Big 12 refs >.< ). Honestly, it was just WHERE the fouls occurred that created that discrepancy… we were being fouled on rebounds and driving at the start of the drive, KU was getting foul calls at the hoop and during shots (3’s even). Now, whether that fact is agree-able to us ’Cat fans or not is up for debate.

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, guys

I know you’re still pissed about the game, but thought I’d just give y’all a heads-up that Arkansas-Pine Bluff is about 7 minutes away from claiming an NCAA berth on ESPNU, if you care to watch.

The Golden Lions’ 12-point lead is by far the largest of the game.

Who would have thought that of all our non-con opponents, the only ones to dance would be Xavier, UNLV and UAPB?

by BracketCat on Mar 13, 2010 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

AND!

If the history for the SWAC continues (it should, 2nd worst conference RPI with 2nd place team to the Dance), then they will have a play-in game to likely try to advance to play SURPRISE the #1 overall seed… my my, who might that be??

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the play-in game winner will play KU in Round 1

KU will be in Oklahoma City. I’m going by memory here but I think that is a Thurs/Sat sub-regional. To be fair to the play-in game winner on Tuesday, they send the winner of that game to a Fri/Sun sub-regional location.

by KU_Lew on Mar 13, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

D'oh :-(

that rains a bit on my parade about mostly nothing, KU Lew.

:-D Ok, so maybe UAPB going from 0-11 to in the Tourney earns them a not-bottom-two-getting-in 16 seed in the OKC region? Heh heh.

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

OT - anybody know how I got BOTC

the BOTC site stuck on the text version??

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Mar 13, 2010 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

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