BIG 12 TOURNAMENT OUTLOOK: 03.11.10 (Open Game Thread)
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM CST
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This essentially is the same feature as yesterday, except there is some brief discussion of yesterday's games after the jump.
It again will function as an open discussion thread throughout the day, including for K-State's game against Oklahoma State, because I don't have time to set up a "normal" open game thread.
Also, sorry I forgot to have a poll yesterday. I've rectified that mistake today.
Predictions and yesterday's results are after the jump.
Sagarin Predictions
- No. 1 Kansas 96, No. 9 Texas Tech 80 (11:30 a.m. | ESPN2)
- No. 4 Texas A&M 87, No. 12 Nebraska 77 (2 p.m. | Big 12 Network)
- No. 2 Kansas State 89, No. 7 Oklahoma State 85 (6 p.m. | Big 12 Network)
- No. 3 Baylor 89, No. 6 Texas 88 (OT) (8:20 p.m. | ESPN2)
Well, Tech's not gonna beat KU, so perish the thought. I also give Nebraska less than a 10-percent chance to up-end the Aggies, and even if they do, there's no way the Huskers will beat KU, either — so the morning games are sort of uninteresting to me as far as K-State's prospects are concerned.
But that's what happens when you have upsets.
On the south side of the bracket, both top seeds advanced, setting up a pair of doozies today. Any two of these four teams could advance to tomorrow and it wouldn't surprise me.
As hard is this is for Cat fans to do, if we survive Okie Lite, we need to be loud Texas fans in the nightcap. I'd much rather have to face a Longhorn team playing its third game (that still doesn't look like much of a team) than the Bears in just their second.
Yesterday's Results
- No. 9 Texas Tech 82, No. 8 Colorado 67
- No. 12 Nebraska 75, No. 5 Missouri 60
- No. 7 Oklahoma State 81, No. 10 Oklahoma 67
- No. 6 Texas 82, No. 11 Iowa State 75
Three out of four ain't bad, and it fits with my 5-1 pattern all season long.
I'm not really surprised Colorado lost, since it's hard to beat a team twice in five days, but I am a little surprised it got away from them in the second half after they had a strong start. Maybe the Buffs aren't quite as improved as we thought, because Tech snapped a seven-game losing streak and just isn't that good.
Missouri absolutely delivered a belly-flop, albeit an amusing one. I think they're still in the NCAA Tournament, but Mizzou sure gave the committee some reasons to question it.
Oklahoma State's gonna be a handful tonight for K-State. Worse yet, they did it without using James Anderson that much. I think we need to play the guy straight up, and not allow Keiton Page and Obi Muonelo to beat us the way Oklahoma did.
For much of the game, I thought Iowa State could seize the win, and although the Cyclones hung in there, they never jumped in front when the opportunities presented themselves, thus allowing Texas to maintain a slight edge the whole way. Plus, their crowd only got loud a few times, when it could have created a nice home advantage for them instead.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks KSU is the most likely upset
I don’t think OSU will win, but out of the 4, I think OSU has the best shot.
I think it's Baylor
This is Texas’ second season and it is EXTREMELY hard to beat a talented team three times.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 12:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So for this morning's festivities
I am surrounded by loud-mouthed KU douchebags.
God help me.
One of the morons behind me has been talking about Sirr Parker and Bishop’s fumble, apparently to distract himself from his team’s crappy play.
It’s all I can do not to haul and punch the f***er.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 12:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You need the "take no shit" dude that sat beside me during the season.
What’s the purple ratio there?
Maybe 1/10 the morning crowd
It’s about 3/5 Jayhawks and the rest is split among a bunch of schools.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 2:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's a damned shame
Here I was hoping the crowd might not be full of KU douches. Fat chance. I’m sorry BC. There are sometimes when it IS better to be sitting at home, in front of a 20" CRT TV with beer and food than at an arena. This is one of those few times.
Anyone know why Tech's band was late?
They were playing canned recordings when I came in.
The actual band just showed up a few minutes ago. What, did they oversleep?
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 12:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
RPT at Rock M Nation
says they might be splitting time between the men’s and womens team.
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True story
Just heard one of the KU loudmouths behind me tell his buddy that the Morris twins were headed for Memphis until Calipari left.
Uh, no, that was the Henrys and you are off by a year, dumbass.
See, this is what I HATE about Hawk fans: I know more about their stupid thug cheater team than they do.
TB texted me another good one he heard: Some Squawk actually yelled at the refs to get the game under control before someone got hurt.
This from the fan of the team featuring Marcus and Markieff “Throatlock” Morris’
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 12:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The funny thing to me
Is that even though I consider myself a HUGE K-State fan, I still am not truely engaged in the KU-KSU rivalry – and never have. I’ve never experienced really these types of fans. I grew up outside of Big 12 country, went to K-State, and I now live outside the Kansas-Kansas State fan bubble. I don’t get to experience these interactions.
I’ve only been to Lawrence for non-sporting event reasons. Hell I even had a roommate from Lawrence and still never felt the rivalry.
I know every fan base has these types of fans, so I find it amusing to hear odd comments like these. I don’t typically agree with these comments, but sometimes like to hear about them.
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Was that in their game thread?
I lurk over there quite a bit just to see the pics and gifs.
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
No, Bracket and TB are at the games
They just overheard it through conversation.
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Reply Fail
Sorry that was suppose to be in response to your comment below about RMN. :facepalm:
by WillieWannabe on Mar 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ha ha, then yes
It was in their game thread.
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I just find...
hand-picked comments funny, because we’ve all got the ammunition and it’s just what you choose to hear.
I heard a 50-60 year old man at the KSU/Ku football game this year screaming to his friend that “he knows football and this is a top ten team!!!!” after Daniel Thomas had a nice run.
I also had a KState fan in my office tell me that we didn’t have anyone that could matchup with Dominique Samuels.
by hiphopopotamus on Mar 12, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Dominique Samuels, if
somehow concocted from the players on our team of those names, would truly be a beast.
--VegasCat07
Diehards like you are exempted from my comments
It’s the ignorant bandwagon fans I can’t stand.
You can’t deny you guys have way more of those because you’ve been winning for 20 years while we haven’t.
History in the making?
Collins now has 4 fouls with 7 minutes left.
Might he foul out of first KU game ever?
I doubt it. It probably would take a technical like it did for Aldrich.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 1:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Next up: Mizzou-A&M
Oh wait…..Go Nebraska!
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For my bracket purposes in my office pool
I need A&M to lose to take a commanding lead (half the people chose A&M to win the whole thing….)
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I doubt it
They gave up an 8-0 lead to start the game.
aTm looks very focused and great on D.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 2:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Syracuse lost.....
Duke to play tomorrow against Virginia…
West Virginia plays Cincy tonight
’Nova down by 3 to Marquette with 5 minutes to go in the first half.
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Rock M abuser for other conference scores
Myst: I think I saw one of your comments on the Rock M board yesterday. They were getting pretty chippy. The guy who was blasting someone who posted score updates was out of bounds. OTs are better than continually badmouthing your players.
Yeah they had a few bad apples over there yesterday
But this isn’t OT since those were the teams that are in contention “with us” for a No. 1 Seed. At least that’s how I justify it.
Some of their other comments were inappropriate though.
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When Nebrasketball meets Agsketball...
First one to 50 wins?
Take no prisoners! No wall left unpainted so we can watch it dry!
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If Nebraska shoots below 50%
It doesn’t matter, Ags in a landslide
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Serious demographic question:
Which team is trending Hispanic faster: Nebraska or K-State?
They’ve got Gallegos and Diaz; we’ve got Clemente, Colon and Henriquez-Roberts.
I don’t know who they have coming in, but we’re probably gonna get Angel Rodriguez and with Frank sticking around, I don’t see the Florida pipeline shutting down anytime soon.
In five years, it might look like a street brawl in Juarez when these two play, given how much both coaches like defense.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You leave me no choice
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Jeez, guys
I never said it was a bad thing.
Hell, with the way demographics are going in this country, it probably gives us a foothold with a TV audience many other schools won’t have.
Good effort by Huskers
I’m glad they came back. They improved a lot during the yr. Discovered my wife’s cousin’s son plays for them, Brandon Ubel, 6-10 Frosh from OP. Small world. Home for dinner – GO CATS!
Almost game time
The purple’s starting to fill in…
Hard to tell how much we will have, but it’s starting to look promising.
Get ’er done, Cats!
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 5:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
way more purple
than orange.
Btw, cool seeing you!
by jtarkman on Mar 11, 2010 5:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Let's get this thing started, bitches.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Twenty bucks says Musberger has no idea where he is right now.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Pullen, baby.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was a sweet little move by Denis.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Two on Pilgrim. That helps.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
And I'm stuck at the friggin'
office again for a KSU game that means something. :-@ Why!?!?!??!!?! Looks like game-tracker time.
--VegasCat07
I blame you for working in the Pacific Time Zone
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Ah, but I counter by blaming
my job for sticking me with OT on (nearly exclusively) days with KSU games causing me to miss the ENTIRE game! Woe is me? :-P
--VegasCat07
No! Thankfully.
That would likely be in-tolerable. Just my bad luck and pessimism combining together.
--VegasCat07
Why the hell are there open seats?
C’mon, Cat fans, get yer asses down to Sprint Center and scalp some tickets!
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 6:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Can't believe
they are trying to make up nicknames now. Would rather call them, “that guy” or “the big guy” like Bobby Knight.
Just Wabash already!
by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 11, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Blame K-State SID
It’s in the game notes for every single game. They’re the ones trying to push it.
Hey, this means somebody as ESPN actually reads the SID releases! Amazing!
Well, this has started out well.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
This is the LOUDEST Sprint has been yet
DOBERMANS!!!
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 6:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
At this point, KSU is dominating the boards, dominating assists, forcing turnovers, and now OSU has two starters in foul trouble
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I love watching Jam Sam play basketball. I may be his biggest fan.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Where was the charge there?
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Dominique Sutton: That's what men do.
Sutton just dunked there, and my wife goes, “Ungh. Put it in your mouth!”
I don’t know what that means.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Best part of the night:
KU fan behind me: “Why can’t we ever come out and look this good? We never play this hard!”
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 6:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Our unborn child shall be named, Jamar
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was the worst shot clock posession I've seen all year. Jesus, OSU
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Is ESPN remotely right?
Denis with 7 ast this early?
Clemente has seven assists. Yes.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Hey, it's Nick Russell. You can all call off the search party. We found him.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
In the first half no less.
Misses a quick shot, but then the steal and layup. nice…
See, this is what Jamar Samuels can do, every game.
I’m telling you all, right now, that he’s going to go down as a great one.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Nice steal and layup by Russell. We look sharp tonight.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
PEOPLE...Jamar has 16 pts, 8 rebs...in 17.30 minutes
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We have Russel and Irving as our guards right now
How do I even?
We're up by 20 and Pullen and Clemente have 2 fouls apiece
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
God, we're abusing their bench
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We haven't seen one player dominate a half like that since Mike was here...
21 points
9 (4 offensive)
1 assist
Jamar, keep doing this. Every game.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
KSU is +17 on the boards this half. Holy shit.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
when was the last time
you saw both Dennis and Jake on the bench at the same time? Martavious running the point pretty well though!
by jtarkman on Mar 11, 2010 7:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I thought that myself. He did a really nice job. I liked what we saw from Russell too.
The future looks so good.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The color of my glasses tonight...
My favorite! Much better than the ‘fudge-colored’ spectacles from Saturday.
--VegasCat07
Oklahomastatecowboys on justin.tv
switched to the show Community at halftime. There was a lot of WTF from viewers expecting hoops. It was actually funny and quite popular. I think many of the Cowboy fans want to stick with the show instead of the game!
8-)
next time I just copy and paste … “it is halftime.”
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 12, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
OSU is just giving up.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's like Frank just mind-raped Ford at half too.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Pilgrim with four. Only 18 minutes left to play. I hope this helps us win.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
ESPN says he has three
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I think the TV said he had one too many a while back
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We just look so much more focused tonight
Jamsam is a killer
by williewildcrack on Mar 11, 2010 7:31 PM CST reply actions
If this was only possible thanks to that awful ISU game
I suppose I can the ISU game. But only if KSU does this a few more times.
4 on Munelo
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I missed the first half
thanks to a TOTAL white trash Jerry Springer situation across the street.
And boy am I pissed.
This space for rent.
I gotta hear this. Spill.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Well, it's like this
“Across the street” = my aunt’s house. Her daughter (my cousin) lives there, as does her 19-year-old daughter. She ran into my daughter’s worthless ex-boyfriend at the corner store, and they had an altercation which ended with… wait for it…
The ex-boyfriend slapping my cousin’s daughter and then running away like a sissy.
So, there were cops and police reports and stuff.
This space for rent.
Dude, if I were the cop, I would have slapped the ex-boyfriend.
Never hit a girl. Ever.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
The cop told her
she should have kicked his ass.
They’re out looking for him now. He’s going to enjoy the hospitality at the county lockup when they find him.
This space for rent.
Sorry Pan, I have to disagree
99.8% you never hit a girl. That 0.2% is somebody deserving of a smack. I never say never. There are some people out there, regardless of sex, deserve what’s coming to them. It’s rare, and I don’t want to pretend I like it, but somepeople are just bad people.
I mystman995 do not condone violence. This has been a PSA brought to you by the ass-whoping just handed to the Cowboys by the Wildcats.
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I love watching Jake coach guys when they come off of the floor.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Yeah...
“Frank says…get your shit together”
by williewildcrack on Mar 11, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Alright. Let's get Kelly off of the floor and go to the bench. Rest 'em up.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Jamar has a new career high AND a double-double.
Now keep him fresh.
I think Frank's reaction to McGruber's defense explains why we haven't seen
as much of him in recent weeks.
Jesus Christ. That block by Kelly on Page was criminal.
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I was wondering that too
Notice how the good Big 12 teams have an excellent transfer (Kelly, Udoh) and the bad Big 12 teams lost a transfer (Wesley Johnson)
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So, who would you rather get tomorrow?
Baylor or Texas? The way they’ve been playing, I almost have to root for the ’Horns tonight…
This space for rent.
Only two more games before an automatic bid. We're so close!!!
Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Would love
that automatic bid. One less day of not sweating to see if we get over “the bubble.”
Just Wabash already!
by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 11, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
True story
The Baylor band just started singing the “Peanut Butter Jelly” song while UT was shooting free throws.
Dorks.
by BracketCat on Mar 11, 2010 9:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Seems like
something a bunch of old friends from summer camp would do
Just Wabash already!
by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 11, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I really thought someone would post the animated banana GIF.
I’m very disappointed in all of you… ;-)
Somebody has to post this now
I’ve never seen it. I have to see it!
Just Wabash already!
by AlwaysaWildcat on Mar 12, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Tonight was Frank's first Big XII tournament win.
Congratulations, Frank. Now go get two more.
I felt like
while watching on TV at work that this game had a much bigger feel to it than past games. Except Texas and KU games, and even the Texas game doesn’t feel that big anymore. I know it should feel that way because its post-season but I think being the 2 seed had a part of it too. Because of our seed, and it being the first time in forever being this high, it is like a new experience for quite a few KSU fans. I was there 2 years ago when we lost to A&M and didn’t play so great and lost. Even then with Beasley and Walker we couldn’t get it done but this time we did. We showed we have our high-level game back and we will hopefully move past Baylor tomorrow.
Anyway glad we played so well, started off extremely well, got Frank his first Big 12 Tourney win, and made a big statement that we are a different team than the one that lost its last two games.
GO STATE!!!!
It was a big game
Lose and go home is a pretty good motivating factor, and it makes all games bigger. I was thrilled to see the Cats respond with that smoking. Time to do it again against a team the Cats already beat.
odds as of 8:30 on USA today
Both games are OFF on the point spread.
Hopefully the same K-State team that showed up last night, shows up again tonight.
by Anon_the_younger on Mar 12, 2010 8:31 AM CST reply actions
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