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After an expected lull on the heels of the "Big 10 may expand!" announcement, talk of conference realignment has heated up once again.  It started on Tuesday, when the Pac-10 made it known that it will explore expansion.  Then, it continued when it was leaked that Texas has held preliminary discussions with the Big 10 regarding expansion.

When the news about the Pac-10 expansion hit the wire, Colorado fans predictably fell all over themselves to make it known that they would happily kill a few social conservatives for the chance to join the Pac-10.  The main reason, apparently, is that the alignment of tectonic plates underneath their state makes them vastly different from the rest of the Big 12 in some way other than altitude.

The reaction of Texas fans was a bit more mixed.  Some are just dying to move to the Big 10, while others don't see the benefit.  Now, some writers are even talking about the Pac-10 taking a look at Texas.  It's enough to make your head spin.

If you haven't already had enough of this issue, then click the jump for some discussion of my thoughts on both these schools, their options, and what it means for K-State and the rest of the Big 12.

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Colorado: Of the two, I think it's more likely Colorado actually ends up making a move.  We'll get into why I believe that's true with regard to Texas below, but it's not exactly been a secret that CU has been interested in moving before.  For various reasons, Colorado fans don't believe they fit in with the rest of the Big 12.

Interestingly, I don't see this as a home-run move for Colorado the way a move to the Big 10 would obviously be a success for Missouri.  Or, really, anyone for that matter.  The Pac-10 actually makes less money off its TV deal than the Big 12 does, splitting $58 million among its 10 schools.  Obviously, with new media markets and a conference championship game, that number would go up substantially.  But would it be enough that the revenue would surpass the Big 12's current $78 million (and growing)?  That's a legitimate question that Colorado needs to be asking itself.  This is the school that didn't have the money to buy out a football coach who has been a spectacular failure.  They can't really afford to take a pay cut via their conference affiliation.

However, all the speculation points toward Colorado accepting an offer if it were extended.  Neill Woelk, one of CU's beat writers, mentions in one of the linked articles that CU narrowly turned down a Pac-10 offer in the mid-1990s, and speculates that it would accept one today.  Given that the money would be worse, or in the absolute best-case scenario a wash, why on earth would CU do that?  Affiliating with Pac-10 schools would be more prestigious academically, which would appeal to the Ivory Tower element in Boulder, and it cannot be underestimated how much pull that faction has in Boulder.  However, given the current financial state of Colorado athletics, I can't see this being a good move.  Maybe the powers that be are more worried about academics than athletics.

As far as the squishier factors, like rivalries and "ties" to a conference, Colorado doesn't have a lot holding it to the Big 12.  Sure, there's the rivalry with Nebraska, but that rivalry is defined more by its mutual contempt-bordering-on-hate than by the emphasis placed on the actual results.  Both fanbases really just wish the other didn't exist, and would undoubtedly be happier in a world where the other actually didn't exist.  As far as ties, Colorado has been a long-time member of the Big 12 and its precursor conferences, but history and tradition don't seem to matter much to them.  Their only real rival is Nebraska, and that's only in football.  Their basketball tradition is essentially non-existent.

Putting all that aside, I'd still hate to lose Colorado.  From a media market standpoint, Denver is the best the Big 12 has after Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston.  Losing Denver would be as bad as the combined loss of St. Louis and part of Kansas City if Mizzou were to leave.  If the speculation that Utah is likely the 12th addition for the Pac-10, then that takes away our best opportunity to replace CU with another viable media market (Salt Lake City).  Basically, if CU leaves, it's the same situation as we discussed with regard to Mizzou.  There simply are no replacements that adequately compensate the loss.  New Mexico, Colorado State, Memphis, and especially TCU and Houston add little to this conference.  BYU might be an interesting option, as they would bring in Salt Lake City.

Despite all that, I'm not sure I've reached the point where I'm willing to fight tooth and nail for Colorado.  In Missouri's case, I can completely understand why they would want to jump to the Big 10.  The monetary gain is indisputable, and academics would benefit by being associated with the CIC.  In Colorado's case, they take less money and go to a conference of generally good schools that doesn't have anything like the CIC.  In other words, it seems like Colorado wants to leave just because it doesn't really like us.  Therefore, if we had to choose to lose one among Colorado, Missouri and Texas, I would let the Buffs search for greener pastures on the West Coast.  That's an absurd hypothetical that's not based on reality, similar to the "would you trade all your wins for a win over your rival" hypo.  Regardless, it fairly sums up my feelings on this issue.  I'd hate to lose the Buffaloes, but I'm not sure there's a lot the Big 12 could do to entice them to stay.

Texas: As Kevin Haskin put it today in the Topeka Capital-Journal, nobody really likes Texas.  Of course, they love themselves so much it's really a wash all told.  However, regardless of your feelings toward Texas, you have no choice but to admit that losing UT would be an unmitigated disaster for the Big 12.

As mentioned above, I am not yet convinced that Texas is on the brink of a jump to the Big 10.  Yes, I know it was leaked this week that they had "preliminary discussions" with that conference, whatever that means.  Let's use a poker metaphor for a moment to depict what I think is happening here:

Twelve gentlemen are sitting around a poker table.  A man in a peculiar orange color has a massive stack of chips.  Next to him, a gentleman in maroon who makes strange "whoop" noises whenever he wins a hand -- not often these days -- has seen his stack dwindle drastically.  Two gentlemen in slightly varying red-and-white outfits have a solid chip count, but not nearly that of the man in orange, and they occasionally whisper back and forth derogatory words about the man in orange.  Nearby, a man in black and gold with a strange penchant for pronouncing the vowel "I" using a short "U" sound (i.e., "uh"), has a surprisingly large stack of chips despite the fact that he never seems to win much.  The rest of the crowd includes the following characters: a man in purple who seems to win quite a bit despite not having a very large stack, another man in black and gold who smokes a funny-looking cigarette and acts like he doesn't want to be there, a man in bright orange dressed like Flava Flav, a man in black and red with two pistols on his hip that he randomly fires into the air for no good reason, a Baptist, and a guy in red and yellow for whom nobody remembers a name.

The cards are dealt for what will be the biggest hand in the game.  The man in black and gold who can't pronounce his "I"s makes an insanely large bet that elicits a murmur even from the stone-faced poker players at the table.  Next up is the man in orange with the big stack.  He considers his options, asks the man in black and gold how many chips he has left after the big bet, and then pushes in enough to put him all in.  In fact, it's a sufficiently big bet to put all the other players at the table all-in, many times over.  Nobody in the room has any idea whether the man in orange is holding a pair of aces, or two-nine off-suit.

I happen to believe that UT in this case is holding two-nine off-suit, not because they couldn't move, but because they don't want to move.  While they have likely moved beyond the insecurity issues that were part of the basis for not wanting to move to the Pac-10 or Big 10 back in the 1990s, a move like that right now would be a leap of faith for Texas.  The money is undoubtedly better in the Big 10 right now, but what does UT want with more money?  They have the highest athletic department revenue in the country.  They can pay for any amount of money necessary for any coach in any sport.  They have incredible facilities for every sport.  They have billionaire alumni that compete with each other over who gives the biggest gift.  As Mr. Dodds put it, they don't keep up with the Joneses, they are the Joneses.

Further, don't discount the benefit UT reaps from the revenue distribution disparity in the Big 12.  They get more every year while everyone else gets less.  In the Big 10, they'd get more in an absolute sense, but so would everybody else.  They wouldn't be able to continually leave the Indianas and Northwesterns further behind in the arms race like they can the Iowa States and Baylors.  Sure, maybe the smaller schools will find a coach occasionally who gets them on a run, but generally they won't be able to pay to keep him.

While travel seems to be a popular topic regarding Texas and the Big 10, I'm not going to get too deep into it here.  Very few people seem to realize that you can fly into every Big 12 city.  So while UT fans may complain about having to fly to KC and then drive two hours to Manhattan, their team flies those university jets right into MHK.  I'm sure UT could fly into the local airports near Bloomington, Ind., and Champaigne, Ill., just like you can fly into the local airports in Manhattan, Kan., and Columbia, Mo.  Also, any increase in travel costs would be more than offset by the increased revenue the Big 10 would bring, so that's not an argument against a move.  Maybe there would be an increased toll on the student athletes, but I'm not sure I can quantify that, so I'll leave it alone for now.

Probably the biggest impediment between UT and a move to the Big 10 is its own state legislature.  At this early stage, there's been no discussion of whether Texas A&M would be included in move to the Big 10.  Perhaps the Big 10 really is interested in going all super-conference on the rest of us and expanding to 14 or 16 teams.  If they are, maybe a UT/TAMU package deal is in the works.  But if it's not, UT is in for the fight of its life inside the Texas Capitol.  You thought the fight was big last time, when Baylor and Texas Tech grads banded together to forge their way into the Big 12 with UT and TAMU?  You ain't seen nothin' yet.  This time, Texas A&M would be against UT in the capitol, and TAMU by itself could at least make UT think twice about this move.  In combination with Tech and Baylor interests, UT would have to have a steel stomach to take on that fight.

Over at BON, Hopkins Horn has made the argument that the forces allied against a UT move wouldn't be as strong this time around, because those left behind would still be in a BCS conference, whereas in the mid-1990s it was clear the Southwest Conference was doomed when UT and TAMU left.  While the Big 12 would probably still be a BCS conference if only UT left, it would be irretrievably weakened.  The dominoes could start to fall.  Colorado could go to the Pac-10.  If Texas A&M doesn't think it has an escape plan in place -- for example, going to the SEC with Oklahoma -- you can be damned sure it will throw everything it has into the fight to keep UT in the Big 12.  Being stuck with a bunch of schools from Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Nebraska, and the leftovers from its own state can't be appealing to Texas A&M.

To wrap this up, let's return to our poker players:

As the man in the funny orange color pushes his chips into the circle, he makes eye contact with the man in purple.  And the nameless man in red and yellow.  And the men in various red-and-white tones.  And the whooping man in maroon, the Baptist, and the crazy man shooting his pistols off in the air.  Finally, he takes an extra-long look at the man in black and gold who mispronounces his "I"s.  He says nothing, but the look on his face is clear.  It says "Maybe I really am just holding two-nine off-suit.  But can any of you really afford to call me?  You're staking your entire future on this bet if you do.  If you call me, and I'm bluffing, maybe you get the equal revenue sharing you so desperately want.  But if you call me, and I have the cards, I'll be off to greener pastures and you'll all be Conference-USA 2.0.  So what will it be?  Hold 'em?  Or fold 'em?"

This is the bet all the other schools in the Big 12 face.  If they call, and UT is holding junk, the conference could stay together -- even if Colorado does defect -- and UT's bargaining power would be weakened.  But if they call, and UT has the cards, then it's a brave new world for all of us.  We could end up having to make do with only K-State, KU, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Baylor and some combination of Mountain West, Conference-USA or WAC schools.  Sometimes, the safest bet is to swallow your pride and fold 'em.  Maybe this is one of those times.

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In regards to the Utah/CU Pac 10 jump...

While that would get the Pac 10 to twelve teams, my local sources (BYU alum boss and Nevada grad co-worker) have been persuasive enough to convince me that move is highly unlikely. From how they describe it, I see it as somewhat analogous to UT/aTm/Tech/Baylor in the 1990’s going as a group from SWAC to Big 12 – those that have say and political sway in Utah are not at all interested or OK with Utah and BYU splitting up. There is some precedence with this from the forming days of the WAC and MWC conferences – Utah was intending to join the WAC but the state would not let them split from BYU (or something like that). I would tend to agree with the points made here (http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2010/2/12/1307861/2010/2/12/1307861/pac-10-expansion-why-not-byu) as to why Utah alone (with CU) and a Utah/BYU package deal are unlikely long-shots for fulfilling Pac 10 expansion.

Side-question: How do I stuff links into comments without the nasty URL business?

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by VegasCat07 on Feb 14, 2010 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Just above the message box, but below the title bar, the second icon from the right

Is a “chain link” icon. Clicking that will produce a popup window into which you can put the URL and set the link to pop up in a new window, if you want.

Click OK and it will insert the code. Then you just need to type the name of the link between the code tags.

by BracketCat on Feb 14, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

I see it now – how did I go so long without noticing those little post-aid buttons?!?!!

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Feb 14, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Great write up

I hope this doesn’t end with the Big 12 cutting Texas an even better deal in revenue sharing to bribe them to stay. Although it might be worth it. I wouldn’t mind losing Colorado so much. BYU would be an interesting replacement. But losing Texas would really hurt.

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by NYRoyal on Feb 14, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Amazing analysis, as always

The poker analogy is a scream. Shades of Big 12 Adventures there…

by BracketCat on Feb 14, 2010 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

Also, kudos to RMN for the Photoshop assist

Sterling work, as always.

P.S. Sorry I bumped it down. I didn’t realize you were publishing this morning.

by BracketCat on Feb 14, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

There's one other thing people don't understand

and I’ve been noting it when necessary over at Frank the Tank’s blog. Losing Mizzou doesn’t do anything to the Big 12 in terms of the Kansas City market — nothing at all. All that will happen is that the BTN suddenly appears on the free tier of KC-area cable systems, but the KC market is still skewed slightly to the west.

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by jonfmorse on Feb 14, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

Not a bad poker analogy...

However, you forgot that Texas A&M’s chip stack was actually a combination of sliced summer sausage links, a box of Staples brand paper clips, and a gently used Optimus Prime action figure.

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by Panjandrum on Feb 14, 2010 4:03 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

This is football poker

Other than a delusional 2.5-year stretch, he doesn’t even try to play the game.

by BracketCat on Feb 14, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides, this offseason, he's obsessed with fitness

It’s working pretty well. He lost about 400 pounds in less than a month.

by BracketCat on Feb 14, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

rofl @ BC. :-D

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by VegasCat07 on Feb 14, 2010 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

Some points worth considering here:

Link

In particular, now may be the time to expand the Big XII…pick up BYU and Utah. The Big 12 already owns the Big 14 moniker.

Also, jointly negotiate TV contracts with the PAC-10…Rule the world west of the Mississippi. Mwahahaha!

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by MadCat on Feb 14, 2010 11:38 PM CST reply actions  

Great link, MadCat

FanShot that and we’ll boost it to the front page.

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by TB on Feb 15, 2010 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Done.

:o)

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by MadCat on Feb 15, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent write-up

I’m the supposed “Texas to the Big Ten” guy, but I really like your poker analogy.

There are a couple of issues with this, though. First, exactly what else can Texas ask for from the Big XII? The premise that Texas would be talking to the Big Ten and Pac-10 just to leverage itself more with the Big XII only works if the Big XII has anything more to give. Texas probably has maxed out the amount of TV money that it could receive, yet it’s still $10 million less than what every single other school in the Big Ten receives. So, it has never made sense to me that the “bigger slice of the pie in the Big XII” matters all that much to Texas when equal slices of the pie in the Big Ten are already so much bigger. It’s like saying that you don’t want to move to the nicest house in Beverly Hills because you’ve got the biggest house in Compton.

Second, here’s the thing that you need to worry about with respect to Texas state politicians. The info that I’ve been seeing isn’t that Texas would be forced to stay in the Big XII. Instead, it would be that Texas A&M would be forced to be paired with Texas wherever they might be, which is VERY different. My understanding is that Baylor and Texas Tech are non-issues in terms of politics right now. I know a lot about the Big Ten and my feeling is that they don’t really want to go up to 14 schools. However, if the conference absolutely must bring in Texas A&M in order to get Texas, then I think that’s really the one scenario where they pull the trigger on that offer. If I were a Big XII fan, I actually DON’T want Texas politicians meddling on this issue. At least a Big XII that only loses Texas and still has Texas A&M will survive (even if it’s weakened) – A&M still brings the Texas state market very well. However, if the Big XII loses BOTH Texas and Texas A&M, then the conference is completely screwed by effectively losing the main market that gives it value (since Texas Tech and Baylor are worthless on this front).

I’m not saying all of this is likely. However, the deal works for Texas in terms of both athletics finances and academics. Travel costs are a “penny wise pound foolish” argument. Please note that the MINIMUM $10 million extra that Texas would receive in the Big Ten is more than what Notre Dame receives in total from its NBC contract. If ND can travel across the country as an independent for football and within the far flung Big East for other sports on $9 million total per year while maintaining a rich athletic department, then Texas can certainly manage travel costs making at least $22 million per year (and it would actually probably be closer to $30 million per year when factoring in increases to the Big Ten’s TV revenue).

This potential deal might get nixed because of some political factors, but it certainly won’t be because of money and academics. Of course, those are the two biggest reasons why any university president would decide to make a move. If you’re running a university, I think that increased money for the athletic department AND better academic prestige are pretty powerful arguments compared to losing a road trip every other year to Waco.

So, I don’t think that Texas is bluffing at all. They really do have the pocket aces here and the Big XII is going to have to come up with a flush on the river to keep it together. Meanwhile, the Big Ten has a massive bankroll and the Pac-10 might be able to get into the game if it could only find a way to double up its stack.

by Frank the Tank on Feb 15, 2010 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

Good to see Frank the Tank make an appearance

As far as the bluffing argument, I don’t think Texas is trying to leverage more out of the Big 12 because, as you state, what more can they get? At this point, the only growth possibilities are a Big 12 Network (for the conference) or a Texas Longhorns Network (for UT). Both of those are possible. They would represent growth, but not nearly on the level that a move to the Big 10 would. However, they may be enough that Texas decides it likes its current setup and stays put. As mentioned, they already have a pretty good gig here.

My argument with regard to bluffing was more based on the previous posturing by Missouri. After Mizzou made it clear they would be interested, a lot of people (including me), pointed out that the Big 12 should pull out the stops to keep Mizzou. “The stops” would include equal revenue sharing and looking at revenue growth streams (Big 12 Network, etc.). If Texas is bluffing here, then it’s because they’re essentially saying to the conference “we’re way more important than Mizzou, so don’t go messing with the revenue distribution or we’re out of here.”

You also make a very good point about the Texas Legislature. If they get involved, it’s a double-edged sword for us. If the Big 10 is dead-set against adding Texas A&M, then it’s our last and only hope to keep Texas. However, if the Big 10 is open to going to 14 or 16, then it could very well be doomsday for the rest of the conference, as in that case the Texas A&M interests would be looking to have A&M added to the new Big 10 mix.

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by TB on Feb 15, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Makes sense

I agree with you that Mizzou entered into dangerous territory. I think that they went into this thinking that they had all of the leverage and was in a “no lose” situation, where they could either get concessions from the rest of the Big XII or land in the Big Ten. Instead, they have ended up sending signals to Texas that the Big XII is unstable, which in turn got Texas to both looking at CYA measures for itself and letting everyone else know in the conference that it might not stick around if it doesn’t continue to get its way. So, in that sense, you’re exactly right that this could be a power play by Texas to maintain the Big XII’s status quo.

Of course, what Mizzou does will not matter if Colorado decides to bolt, which in turn would spur Texas to make a move anyway. The Mizzou-to-Big Ten rumors have virtually always been one-sided from the Mizzou side – remember that the Big Ten has examined Mizzou many times before but they were never deemed worthy to receive an offer. Well, the Big Ten is an even more powerful position now, so I don’t think the conference is reciprocating the interest from Mizzou. That threat to the Big XII was more speculative from reporters that just see sports conferences in terms of geography as opposed to being a legimitate concern.

Colorado, on the other hand, seems to want to be a part of the Pac-10 and the interest appears to be mutual. Texas threatening Mizzou would work because there really isn’t a legit offer from the Big Ten to take Mizzou. Texas threatening Colorado, however, might not matter because CU might have decided to leave anyway and it actually has a secure landing spot in the Pac-10. That scenario could spur Texas to perform CYA maneuvers just as much as or even more than the prospect of Mizzou leaving.

Everything that I’ve seen from Texas alums is that even though they’re in a good place right now, they’ve seen firsthand through the collapse of the SWC that they aren’t immune to the greater economic forces around them. Colorado and Missouri represent the Big XII’s 2 largest states by population and 3 largest TV markets outside of Texas, so that’s a massive concern in terms of actually maintaining the wealthy athletic department that they have today. The revenue figures that I’ve seen suggest that Texas is the richest athletic department in the country in spite of the Big XII as opposed to because of it, so it’s going to take any decrease in conference TV revenue seriously.

by Frank the Tank on Feb 15, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way...

…for those who haven’t seen it and/or don’t understand why there is chatter of Texas going to a conference of schools in the Rust Belt, read Frank the Tank’s post on the matter. Then you’ll understand.

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by TB on Feb 15, 2010 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

My serious response...

The Big 12 has always been a motley crew of universities that share nothing more than some common geographic boundaries and an uneasy alliance based on the fact that the Big 8 was starting to lose relevance and looked to take on some refugees from the SWC in an effort to survive in the brave new world of college athletics. It’s quite apparent that there was never really any significant strategy other than, “Let’s just make a football super-conference.”

The problem is that other conferences got hip to the game, and they used their pull and geographic relevance (i.e. our states have more TV’s than yours do) to evolve the model while the Big 12 allowed themselves to get bullied around by Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Nebraska because, well, we need them more than they need us.

There are two extremely stable conferences, the Big Ten and the SEC, that have built themselves around two separate ideals. The Big Ten has solidified itself around very large, major state universities that happen to be bound by significant academic standards as well at athletic standards. You want to be a part of the Big Ten because of what it means academically and to your bottom line. The SEC has essentially branded itself as minor-league football. It’s the closest thing to NFL football you’re going to get on a consistent basis. Each stadium seats about 80,000 or more, every school (sans Vanderbilt and Kentucky) revolve around football and make no bones about it. They have incredible bargaining power because of the quality of play and production quality.

The Pac-10 is sustainable because it’s kind of out there by itself, therefore, it’s the preeminent conference for nearly half of the country. No one east of the Rockies gives a shit about the Pac-10 because we’re all in bed by the time the night games start kicking or tipping off. Therefore, the Pac-10 IS college athletics for the entire West Coast.

However, in the middle part of the country that’s affectionately known as the ‘flyover states’, a super conference exists. It’s not bound by academic standards (as they’re all varying in stated mission) or really even an athletic identity. Football is dominated by the South, and Basketball is dominated by the North. The divisions are extremely partitioned due to the fact that they are basically the union of a shotgun wedding. It’s just not a conference that was built for the long haul. Maybe if they would have tried to establish an identity years ago, but that time has probably passed. What we have now, and in the future, will always probably be a loose association of schools that are united simply because there isn’t a better option in our neck of the woods.

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by Panjandrum on Feb 15, 2010 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

My new fear

I had a weird dream that the Big Ten surprised everyone and selected…

Kentucky.

Think about it for a moment. Kentucky does not fit into the current SEC, which is a football super-conference. Its basketball rivalries with Indiana and Louisville mean just as much as any rivalries it might have with SEC schools. While UK doesn’t really bring more TV locally, it’s one of a handful of “national” basketball schools that draw attention from the entire country.

From the Big Ten’s perspective, I still can’t see what incentive there is for Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State to invite in another football power. The idea is to get to 12, get the title game, not split the money any more than they absolutely have to, and keep dominating the Rose Bowl berths among themselves. Inviting Kentucky accomplishes all of that and raises the conference’s basketball profile significantly.

For Kentucky, the gain of the Big Ten Network and the Big Ten’s continued growth probably would offset the loss of SEC revenue.

Why is this pertinent to us? Because the first thing the SEC would do, I suspect, is invite Texas right on over. And the Longhorns would jump in a heartbeat.

Other than USC and Oklahoma, Texas is the only school that recruits and spends money at an SEC level. The move would reunite them with Arkansas, cultivate a regional rivalry with LSU and give us an annual rematch of the Rose Bowl against Alabama. And Texas still could play OU and aTm every year in the non-con.

The first step toward truly super-conferences is combining Texas with the SEC. And that would tear the Big 12 apart, obviously. To me, the SEC is a much greater threat to absorb Texas than is the Big Ten.

by BracketCat on Feb 16, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

Lots of issues here

(1) The Big Ten definitely wants no part of Kentucky because of academics. Unless you’re named Notre Dame, you need to be an AAU member to meet that standard. UK isn’t a member.

(2) The #1 misconception about all of the Big Ten expansion talk is that this about a conference championship game. NO! NO! NO! This is about expanding the Big Ten Network into the most basic cable households possible. The revenue from a conference championship game is a rounding error to the Big Ten compared to what the Big Ten Network provides. Which single school could provide guaranteed access to the most possible basic cable households compared to any other school in the country? Texas (and it’s not even close).

(3) Thinking that Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State would rather invite a lesser athletic school in order to maintain “dominance” is thinking like a sports fan as opposed to a university president (who cares a whole lot more about the revenue noted in point #2). Who fits the Big Ten financially and academically better than every other school in the Big XII? Texas (and it’s not even close).

(4) Texas will NEVER go to the SEC. Almost any semi-informed UT alum will tell you that. Once again, this is a sports fan view where they think that geography trumps all. Go to any Texas blog or message board and check out what they’re talking about. You’ll see lots of discussion about the Big Ten and Pac-10, but any football-focused person that brings up joining the SEC will get shot down immediately. That’s because insiders that know a lot more than me have stated unequivocally that Texas won’t join ever join the SEC because of academics. If Texas is going to leave the Big XII, then a clear upgrade in academics is going to be a 100% requirement to the people who actually make the decision (who are academically-minded people). The Big Ten and Pac-10 provide that, but the SEC clearly doesn’t.

by Frank the Tank on Feb 16, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Frank is right

Texas has made it abundantly clear that it has no interest in the SEC unless the SEC raises its academic standing/requirements, and the SEC has made it clear it has no such interest in altering its academic standing/requirements.

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by TB on Feb 16, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Great job TB

This is the type of discussion that always fascinates me, but unfortunately, I don’t have much to add to it.

Does anyone know anything more about the status of a Big XII Network of a Texas Network? I heard the idea of a Big XII Network got shot down a while back, but would it pass now? Is there anything keeping Texas from launching their own network? Perhaps the concession Texas wants is for the Big XII to start their own network? Or allow Texas to start its own network? I don’t know enough about it. Those are my only thoughts on what Texas could hope to get by bluffing here (besidse keeping the conference from going all out to try to keep Mizzou). On the other hand, bowl money is split evenly, maybe Texas wants to adjust that to be more like the TV distribution?

by Texas Wahoo on Feb 17, 2010 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

From what I've heard...

…and keep in mind these are completely unsubstantiated rumors, the Big 12 is working on launching its own network. I have heard that Texas has poured money into developing a Texas Network, but I don’t know what the status of that is. Texas’ “bluff” could be aimed at either of those things, or maybe it’s just at the status quo, or maybe it’s toward bowl revenue, or maybe it’s something else entirely.

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by TB on Feb 17, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

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