BIG 12 OUTLOOK: 02.13.10
One of these is not like the other. Hint: It's the team that's running away with the conference, in spite of the fact that the conference is the strongest it's been in 13 years of existence.
The three-way tie for second place is misleading, in my opinion, because K-State has by far the easiest remaining schedule and should end the season with wins over both teams with which it's tied.
I also would not count Baylor out in the race for a first-day bye. The Bears still are projected by two models to win out in the regular season, which would put them in a fine position. The home rematches against Texas and Texas A&M are huge.
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech all look like NIT-type teams at this point. Don't be fooled by the Red Raiders' "resurgence" — their last two wins came against the Oklahoma schools. If they beat Texas A&M and K-State, then we'll talk.
I'm with Kevin Kietzman — at this point, it appears the Northtards will go 0-18 against KU, K-State and Missouri.
Maybe Iowa State can bite the Tigers in Ames, but it would be a significant upset.
| Seed* | Record* | Tourney* | RPI | Pomeroy | Sagarin | Streak | Best Win** | Worst Loss** | Coach | |
| Kansas | 1 | 16-0 | NCAA | 1 | 1 | 1 | W-9 | Kansas State | Tennessee | Bill Self |
| Kansas State | 2 | 12-4 | NCAA | 8 | 9 | 8 | W-2 | Texas A&M | Ole Miss | Frank Martin |
| Baylor | 3 | 12-4 | NCAA | 23 | 16 | 13 | W-1 | Xavier | Colorado | Scott Drew |
| Missouri | 4 | 10-6 | NCAA | 41 | 14 | 17 | W-2 | Kansas State | Oral Roberts | Mike Anderson |
| Texas | 5 | 10-6 | NCAA | 28 | 13 | 11 | L-2 | Pittsburgh | Oklahoma | Rick Barnes |
| Texas A&M | 6 | 9-7 | NCAA | 19 | 36 | 28 | W-3 | Baylor | Washington | Mark Turgeon |
| Oklahoma State | 7 | 6-10 | NIT | 37 | 60 | 49 | L-3 | Kansas State | Oklahoma | Travis Ford |
| Colorado | 8 | 5-11 | None | 151 | 88 | 102 | L-3 | Baylor | Oregon State | Jeff Bzdelik |
| Texas Tech | 9 | 5-11 | NIT | 30 | 81 | 60 | W-2 | Oklahoma State | Wichita State | Pat Knight |
| Oklahoma | 10 | 4-12 | None | 83 | 89 | 87 | L-1 | Texas | San Diego | Jeff Capel |
| Iowa State | 11 | 4-12 | None | 116 | 85 | 81 | L-3 | Saint Louis | Oklahoma | Greg McDermott |
| Nebraska | 12 | 3-13 | None | 133 | 84 | 93 | L-3 | Tulsa | Colorado | Doc Sadler |
Note: As any of these numbers change, I will bold and color-code them to indicate direction of change.
Team names that are colored indicate a change in seed.
(green = upward, red = downward)
*Predicted
**According to RealTimeRPI
Discussion
Very little movement this week. The only unexpected result was Texas Tech winning at Oklahoma, which produced a place switch between the two teams.
Other than that, there's not much to discuss. Maybe today will shake things up more.
I do think it's funny how Texas' continued travails have made our best win Texas A&M and Baylor's best win Xavier.
Also, Mississippi's 5-5 SEC record finally drove it below Missouri in the RPI, while Wichita State has been vacillating back forth with Missouri and Oklahoma State for the right to be the Red Raiders' worst loss.
GAMER: Now has Missouri beating Texas.
Pomeroy: No change.
Sagarin: Now has Baylor winning at Oklahoma State.
Self-Evaluation
Meh, three outta four ain't bad.
Will any road team win today? The computers don't think so.
Texas A&M seems to have the best chance. Pomeroy favors the Aggies and he usually tends to be a little more accurate than the other two. If they sweep Tech, it wouldn't surprise me that much. When the two-game winning streak meets the three-game winning streak, something has to give.
Colorado, Iowa State and Nebraska aren't so much opponents this week as they are sacrificial lambs. Texas, in particular, needs to feast on that succulent mutton from Lincoln and get back to being a decent team.
Many think Missouri will give Baylor a game, and I suppose it's possible, but I don't really see it. With the trees they have in the middle, the Bears should out-rebound the Tigers at least 30-20. This will be an interesting and competitive rematch of last year's conference tournament championship game only if Mizzou makes its shots.
And Oklahoma State needs a win in the worst way. Getting swept by the woeful Sooners would end the Cowboys' NCAA candidacy for good. That three-game losing streak needs to end fast in they have any designs on a successful season.
Cumulative pick record: 42-12 (.778)
Key
Results are plugged into this wonderful tool to generate the predicted records and seed order. Winners are predicted by a best-of-three system comprising three statistical prediction models:
- G — RealTimeRPI GAMER (an advanced statistical prediction model, claiming 76.8 percent accuracy)
- P — Ken Pomeroy's rankings (he predicts a probability outcome for each game remaining)
- S — Sagarin composite rankings (home court advantage is taken into account)
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I've been wondering if this is true.
the conference is the strongest it’s been in 13 years of existence.
The two Kansas teams are as good as they’ve been. Baylor is good, Texas can be good, and A&M has their moments but outside of those teams is the Big 12 any good? Missouri is tough to play at home and average elsewhere. At the beginning of the year everybody thought the Big 12 was going to be great, I’m beginning to question that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
after looking at KenPom
maybe Missouri is better than I give them credit for, he has them at 14.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Missouri is a solid club
But we’ll find out just how legit they are in the weeks to come.
Keep in mind that the Big 12 has only had 6 teams in the tournament one other time — 2007.
And I think the league is better now than it was then. KU is better, K-State is much better (frosh vs. experience), Mizzou is much better, Texas is down a bit, A&M is about the same, OSU is a little better, Tech is about the same, the Northtards are about the same (CU a little better, NU a little worse) and Baylor is slightly better. OU is much worse, but that’s the only significant change.
No. 1 RPI conference doesn’t lie, even if we did fatten up on the Crap-10.
The Big 12 does great for the Pomeroy top 20 (5/20)
And the Big 12 owns the 80 – 90 group (5/10) whoopee!
I think we’ll see 5/6 make it out of the first round, and then 4/5 to the sweet sixteen. I think the NCAA results will be the best measure.
They're a decent measure, but can be fluky
It always depends on matchups.
Of course, Mizzou probably will go further than it should because it’s a horrible matchup for most teams.
Pomeroy is one ranking....
if you want an accurate rating go to Kenneth Massey’s site. He compiles all the other rankings into one. It is by far the best analysis right now.
http://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm
Wildcat for life
Do the current standings
remind anyone else of the old Big 7/8 days when K-State/KU battled for the conference title every year and Missouri showed up occasionally? Seems interesting to me at least.











