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RPI WATCH: 12/01/2010

She's a heart-breaker, she's a love taker,
She can break a heart and take all the love she needs.

Missouri lost a true heart-breaker last night in overtime. After expending so much energy — first to get back into the game, then to take the lead late — a series of missteps and ridiculously clutch plays conspired to send the game into an extra period, and the Tigers just didn't have any energy left.

Sure, you can point to the 3 that shouldn't have counted. (A ridiculous rule, by the way — we can stop play to review whether a shot was a 2 or a 3, but we can't do the same to determine whether it should be a zero or a 3?)

But I say point instead to the mental slip of fouling with a lead and 14 seconds on the clock, or the missed free throw to make it a two-score game, or risking a scramble drill under the basket by throwing the ball back into play, instead of letting it go out of bounds, thus forcing the Hoyas to inbound and run an offense with less than 5 seconds on the clock.

Truth be told, Georgetown had the better backcourt and possibly the better frontcourt (Mizzou was out-rebounded offensively — big surprise — and outscored in the paint, as well), and that proved to be the case in overtime. Mizzou had to win the game in regulation with the frenzy it displayed, but failed to do so. Say goodbye to the top 10 for a while.

Other thoughts:

  • Our Washingtonian opponents both posted dominating home victories. It's hard to get a read on how good Friday's opponent, Washington State, really is. The Cougars have looked impressive so far, but have played nobody of note. Their best win is a road victory over a 1-3 Fresno State team.
  • The Big 12 is the only conference still undefeated at home (last year, the conference only lost one home game in more than 100 tries), although Texas Tech sure did its best to screw that up by trailing Oral Roberts for large chunks of the game. Meanwhile, Colorado got back to .500 against UTPA.

Star-divide

AP Ranking = 5

ESPN/USA Today Ranking = 5

Overall Record = 6-1

RPI = 13

SOS = 18

Signature Wins (RPI 1-30) = none

Quality Wins (RPI 31-100) = James Madison, Virginia Tech

Bad Losses (RPI 101 or greater) = none

  • James Madison (5-1) | RPI = 91
  • Virginia Tech (4-2) | RPI = 46
  • Presbyterian (2-4) | RPI = 106
  • No. 24 Gonzaga (4-2) | RPI = 161: Win over Eastern Washington (86-57)
  • No. 1 Duke (6-0) | RPI = 12
  • Texas Southern (1-5) | RPI = 162
  • Emporia State (3-3*)
  • Washington State (5-0) | RPI = 128: Win over Sacramento State (84-36)
  • Alcorn State (0-5) | RPI = 331
  • Loyola Chicago (7-0) | RPI = 70
  • No. 16 Florida (5-1) | RPI = 21
  • No. 23 UNLV (6-0) | RPI = 3
  • UMKC (4-1) | RPI = 251
  • North Florida (3-3) | RPI = 80
  • Savannah State (1-7) | RPI = 325: Loss at Stetson (64-69)
  • Oklahoma State (5-1) | RPI = 138
  • Colorado (3-3) | RPI = 279: Win over Texas-Pan American (83-64)
  • Texas Tech (5-3) | RPI = 155: Win over Oral Roberts (86-82)
  • No. 8 Missouri (5-1) | RPI = 52: Loss to No. 14 Georgetown (102-111 in overtime)
  • Texas A&M (5-1) | RPI = 210
  • No. 10 Baylor (5-0) | RPI = 65
  • No. 4 Kansas (6-0) | RPI = 8
  • Nebraska (4-2) | RPI = 169
  • Iowa State (6-0) | RPI = 25
  • Oklahoma (3-3) | RPI = 220
  • No. 20 Texas (5-1) | RPI = 10

*Division II

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Bad free throw shooting

cost MU this game. It will haunt KSU this season, unless significant improvement is made by Wildcats. Not profound, I know. But our FT shooting is atrocious.

oh hail the Purple and White

by Furnace76 on Dec 1, 2010 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

The Only Statement

That Dickie V made during the Duke game that I would concur with was that he could shoot free throws better in his suit coat and street shoes. For the life of me, I can’t see how we can be this bad shooting free throws. Kelley seems to be the only one of our bigs who can somewhat consistently hit free throws and he couldn’t seem to hit one during the Duke game. Freddie seems to have a good stroke and it would seem that if he starts to find himself at the line, he may be able to continue to hit.

I think it’s time to bring in a sports psychologist or a hypnotist. Maybe both.

If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.

by ArkieCat on Dec 1, 2010 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

Look at the players Frank recruits...

Junkyard Cat style players that scrap and claw. If they can shoot on top of that, great. But it isn’t surprising to me that we are not a good FT shooting team. Now, we shouldn’t be THIS bad, but i think it will get better.

Also, I absolutely HATE it when people say, “I could make 7-10 right now” or “When i played EVEN I could make 6-10.”

Frank makes them play harder than anyone ever did in High School. It is what it is.

by WillieWannabe on Dec 1, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

But that is NOT an excuse for pathetic FT shooting.

And I don’t think Frank would accept it as one either.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Dec 1, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he does either.

But I do think the mentality contributes partly to the free throw problem.

"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
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by MeatGeek on Dec 1, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

The day our SOS died...

UCF knocks of Florida, who suddenly looks like UNC – a team the media routinely wants to be good but isn’t there yet.

For the second night in a row, an opponent blows a game on FT shooting and subsequently in OT. VaTech had two of the worst end-of-game offensive sets I’ve ever seen. They’re not bad, but unless they make some noise from here on out, they should be on the outside looking in yet again come Selection Sunday.

Oklahoma got soundly beaten by Arkansas, Butler (one of the early season’s biggest disappointments) gave Loyola its first loss in Chicago, and UNI gave The Mayor his first loss as coach of ISU.

Michigan St is hanging tough with Duke. If Duke loses, well that’d be pretty shocking, but would go along with all the other “bad luck” from tonight for our RPI.

On another KSU basketball note, saw a bit of the USF-VCU game. Ron Anderson looked pretty good. Was nimble, had some post moves, hit his FTs, and most surprisingly seemed like the vocal leader of the team. We have a real good frontcourt (though still developing – Wally…Wally?) but I don’t think there’s any question Ron would get some playing time on this Cats team. Glad to see him doing well elsewhere though.

by yeahboozin on Dec 1, 2010 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

Va Tech sliding...

I’m betting that might just cost Greenberg his job if they don’t make the tourney.

On Ron Anderson, I think leaving K-State for a fairly abysmal USF team allowed him to step up and develop at a far greater rate simply because he had the opening. Not sure if he would have developed like that at KSU. Though I do believe he played some significant minutes in the tourney if I remember right.

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by MeatGeek on Dec 1, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

There's no shame in losing to UNLV and Purdue.

Now, if it becomes a steeper slide, that drops them below .500, then I’ll be a bit worried about them.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It's more the way they lost.

Totally gave the game away. I could see that team going into a freefall. That being said, we still beat them very soundly so it shouldn’t affect anyone’s perception of KState, just the quality of that sizable victory.

Michigan St hanging tough with Duke. Not sure whether it’s because MSU’s defense has been better than KSU’s was, but Duke looked much better against Cats than tonight. Singler with a pretty subpar performance. Irving again is best player on the court, which may prove to be the norm for the season.

by yeahboozin on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Singler did that several times last year.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Dec 1, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Irving again giving the gift

of many dirty thoughts to DV. I have had the TV on mute for awhile now.

by JB-KState on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Dick V has to go

I really can’t stand to listen to him anymore. His constant talk about how great the super teams, like Duke, are, just reinforces the status quo (which of course is espn’s goal). I was thinking an SB nation site should be dedicated to listing radio feeds for all games covered by espn so you could go there, find the radio feed, put the tv on mute, and listen to the local coverage instead of dickie v. Problem is there is usually a delay, and the voice doesn’t sync with the video. But I would take it. The depth of my contempt with all things espn grows by the day. And yet they are starting to OWN college sports.

oh hail the Purple and White

by Furnace76 on Dec 2, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Just wait until

they hit that soft ACC schedule and have to play UNC. They’ll win at least 12 conference games.

Boom.

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Dec 1, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

But sooner or later if Greenberg doesn’t get them in this year, they’ll start realizing he’s not the man to get them over the hump. You don’t always have to have a bad season to be fired.

"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising

by MeatGeek on Dec 2, 2010 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

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