Hello, Newman!
For some wacky reason, SBNation does not have our exhibition games in the database of GameThreads, so this will have to suffice.
Tonight might be the only time my mother's two alma maters face off. Other than that, this game is not particularly noteworthy. It serves mainly as the long-awaited* beginning to a much anticipated basketball season.
So, it's here at last. Here's to a successful next five months for your No. 3-ranked Wildcats.
BRING ON THE CATS!!!
*Like, since two minutes after the buzzer sounded at the end of the Butler game.
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Beat me
I was in the process of creating a game thread when I saw this.
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I've been waiting on it to pre-publish for 30 minutes.
SB is messed up tonight or something. Finally got fed up and published it manually.
No Jamar and no Devon Peterson tonight.
Jamar got poked in the eye and will sit this one out.
Devon’s still too new, apparently.
I'm sure one will show up eventually.
But y’all need to look into getting DirecTV. I haven’t had to sweat a single game since I got it.
Satellite
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you think TB?
Of more importance, how about changing in the interior garage door to one that has a cat-door in it, and then changing back when I leave?
Fire Chris Cosh!
There's an FCC rule or regulation on that issue
I’m not an expert in that area, and don’t really want to give legal advice on the site, but just from two minutes of research, it looks like there’s probably something you can do about it.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks TB, but I was kidding more or less
My Mom and some good friends love their AT&T cable so I would probably do that if I wanted TV.
Fire Chris Cosh!
My projected starters
Pullen, Kelly, Judge and McGruder are virtual locks.
Most will say Irving for the fifth spot, but don’t be surprised it’s one of the freshmen: Spradling, Southwell or Williams.
Uglier than you think.
Frank is notorious for intentionally uglifying these things to make a point. We might see walk-ons out there if he doesn’t see the effort he wants to see.
I remember being in the car listening to Coach on the way home when he said
“When they come to practice they’ll either work and do what I want, or I’ll destroy them.” I knew at that point that KSU was going to be either very good or a disaster.
And yes, I remember what happened afterwards.
Fire Chris Cosh!
Sounds pretty reasonable
I’ll go with 85-61
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like a really good crowd.
A No. 3 ranking does wonders for getting the bandwagon fans in Manhattan off their asses, apparently.
Commence meltdown among the nutty faction of our fanbase
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with it...
…but there are some who are going to think this is the Apocalypse.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
WE ONLY LEAD BY 2 AT THE FIRST MEDIA TIMEOUT
THERE’S NO WAY WE’LL WIN A GAME THE REST OF THE YEAR.
OK, Just kidding. Loved that finish by Jake before the timeout. Drive, force the contact, finish. Fear the Beard.
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We're going to play the whole team before halftime at this rate
Really like Asprilla so far. Goes after boards, gets position, looks smooth (despite the easy miss). Got lost on defense once though.
Judge doesn’t look good thus far. Out of position twice on defense, not much doing on offense. Give him time.
Jake is Jake. I love that kid.
Spradling plays good defense. Williams buried a three in his first collegiate shot.
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Southwell has looked OK
Spradling does everything well. Has 2 rebounds, runs the offense great, makes good passes, buried an open 3, is not a liability on defense. Just as advertised.
He will push Irving for the starting spot. Speaking of Irving — much better looking offensive game, 2 steals, decent passing and great defense. I see improvement there.
Someone put out an APB for Nick Russell.
We’ve seen every scholarship newcomer already, but no sign of a returning sophomore guard?
Uh oh… I smell a transfer in the making.
And as soon as you say that...
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Would definitely like to see him in earlier...
…but I think he’ll be OK.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
We've just gone ice cold over the last four or five minutes
Sloppy with the ball and on defense, too. Bad combo.
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Is it just me, or has the offense seemed to run at its smoothest when Spradling is the PG?
I think he plays the 1 and Jake plays the 2, and when Jake shifts to the 1, Irving comes in at the 2.
He just airballed a free throw.
Methinks Frank ran their asses off last night to add some adversity.
Wally looks like...
…he has the yips from the FT line. Did a poor job recognizing the double-team, too.
On the bright side, he’s got some muscle definition this year.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Wally only shot 58% from the line last year,
so struggling there isn’t really too much of a shock.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 2, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
If he can just get that up to around 68%, he'll double his scoring average.
It’s the only thing holding him back from monster points. Boy will be at the line a LOT this year.
Will Spradling with some serious confidence in his stroke at the charity stripe.
I’m telling you, guys, this guy is Shalee Lehning with a penis. He was born to play point guard.
We haven’t had guys like this since Lon Kruger and Will Scott and those great guards in the 70s and 80s.
by BracketCat on Nov 2, 2010 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha
Not the image I needed. I’m not liking the idea of KSU using a true freshman PG for this season. Youth anywhere else wouldn’t bother me. But I guess Pullen is always there to help out.
Fire Chris Cosh!
He's nowhere near as attractive as Shalee...
…but otherwise, point taken.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
If you can play, you can play.
Think Duke is worried about having to play Kyrie Irving at PG? Kentucky and Brandon Knight? Kansas and Josh Selby?
OK. that was awesome.
this guy is Shalee Lehning with a penis
by WillieWannabe on Nov 2, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, what a beautiful series.
Nino with the steal, Judge with the stuff and Spradling with the nifty transition assist pass.
That’s two freshmen and a sophomore, y’all. K-State ain’t going away!
He may be having other problems...
…but he always has the ups.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this a kinder, gentler Frank Martin?
His halftime interview with Stan was not the short, angry Frank I’ve come to expect at halftime.
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So our FT percentage has not improved from last year.
We need to strive for 80% or Duke will beat us by 15-20.
It doesn't help...
…that Jake sat out most of the first half. He was 3-3 when he was in there. Gotta think if he’d stayed in, he would have kept that going and the percentage would be a little better.
Still, I agree it’s a concern.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It's mainly Curtis and Wally that need to improve.
They’re going to get a lot of opportunities. Everyone else is a crapshoot, probably.
80 percent is asking a lot.
I’m not sure an HCFM team will ever hit that.
I much prefer the idea of defending the hell out of Duke and keeping them below their scoring average. But that’s just me.
The only thing wrong with Will Spradling...
…is his jersey number. 55? Really? It’s like a miniature Tyler Hughes running around out there!
Perfect
KSU has so many players right now, pulling a KU and having a few ride the pine for a year (one way or another) seems like a really good idea
Fire Chris Cosh!
That's what I've thought for awhile.
But I don’t think exhibition games count against the redshirt, do they?
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 2, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Still seeing some whining tendencies out of Curtis.
Really was hoping Frank would have coached that shit out of him by now.
Oh, wow.
Freddy loses his shoe, gets it back on, and helps get a steal.
Then Spradling sets up a great look for a Wally Judge layup. Nicely done.
Watching this team right now, one thing is going thru my mind.
Dom Sutton would not get many minutes on this team. We’ve upgraded our athleticism and offense at every position.
Southwell is a physical upgrade over Clemente.
He is longer, bigger, taller and supposedly is our best passer. Just not as fast, is all.
Agreed
Losing Sutton isn’t a huge problem.
Obviously FT need to improve. Jake is going to be special as always. Loving what we’re getting out of Freddy and Spradling. Wally has the potential to be a monster by mid-season. Really, the biggest concern right now, which frankly I’m shocked to see (despite recognizing this is the first exhibition game and relatively meaningless) how poorly Curt is playing. He’s not getting in the right position, he’s not finishing strong, and as noted by BracketCat his whining is still there. None of those things are acceptable for a role playing senior, no less the supposed second best player on this team.
That being said, there should be some rust. Frank is trying a lot of lineups and we won’t know what we have until mid-December really. Missing Jamar tonight also changes the team’s offensive dynamics. Having him hopefully next game should show us more of what this team can do.
It's telling
In an exhibition game Curt has been getting so many minutes. Clearly Frank is not happy with the way he’s playing tonight.
Myles
Good to see him draw a charge first play in there.
Probably not a good sign for him though it took so long.
Depends.
If you’re a freshman, no. If an upperclassman, it might. It’s weird, like all things NCAA.
Juevol’s a 3 to play 3, tho, so no redshirt available, I guess.
Myles playing the Denis role there.
Kicking to Jake on the fast break for the wide-open 3. Interesting.
Also, yet another Rodney rebound. That kid is gonna be sick at the 3.
Rod is a great rebounder
But hasn’t played great offensively today. That’ll come.
Gotta love what Freddy is showing us tonight.
Another great pass
This kid can play.
Also, props to Myles. Nothing flashy but three very good fundamental plays in only a few minutes. If he continues like that he’ll start taking Marty’s PT.
And then he sets up Wally for the sick dunk with a sharp hi-lo pass.
Very nice. This guy is already 100x better than Lu on the offensive end.
I'm telling ya, they've got no legs.
Frank ran ’em and ran ’em hard.
Besides, Jamar will take 90 percent of Victor’s minutes.
It's the marking...
…that a player has to be outside of if he wants to take a charge. It’s been in the NBA for years.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure looked like the charge on Pullen
that the guy was camped out on the circle. It’s still a judgment call, unfortunately. Now, you just have more room to argue.
The worst part about that call...
…is that Jake barely grazed the guy. There definitely were some goofy calls tonight, but more were on them than were on us, so I’m happy.
Wally
Has been awesome in second half.
If he can do a bit better on FT he is a double-double threat every game.
Do you think this is an indication OJ will actually get minutes?
Could he be the ‘10-’11 Merrie?
I hope so
Work his butt off, but play hard, do just what Coach wants him to do, I hope he can get his minutes. I think Merrie won the NU game when NU shot 99% for the game.
Fire Chris Cosh!
I agree, but there are a lot more talented guys on this team.
As an added bonus, it could help us get his brother in a Cats uniform down the road.
Love it
The freshman look very solid.
Myles is quickly establishing himself as a hustle guy. Could become an unexpected fan favorite at this rate.
He's a walkon
And with the number of scholarships we may need to open up next year, he’s likely to never get one. They won’t redshirt him.
Southwell is really impressive.
Yup. And Frank will have plenty to teach and motivate from this.
I wonder about the lack of time for Nick. Really strange considering how many people thought he was a candidate to start alongside Jake.
Frank on postgame just said
Nick Russell has all the talent to contribute to this team, but he needs to buy in to what the Cats are about.
Sounds like an attitude issue that’ll be fixed this season or we know where one of those necessary scholarships is coming from.
Last year...
…a lot of what limited Russell’s playing time was his inability to pick up the defensive rotations. My guess is that has continued to this year. I hope he gets it figured out, because he has all the tools to be an all-conference-level player. But as we all know, if you can’t play defense for Frank, you won’t play for Frank.
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by TB on Nov 2, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
SEEMS LIKE EVERY GAME
the opposing team hits a 3 pointer to start out vs KSU, am I the only who thinks that?
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No, and in addition
There’s always some white guy who pops off for a career high in 3s made. It happened again tonight, I think.
Total Agreement
I got a text about 2 minutes in from my friend basically saying that and wondering if he was going to keep Newman in the game the whole time
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I didn't really pay close attention as it was my wife's birthday...
But what I saw was impressive.
Wally Judge is going to be great, Pullen can take over a game whenever, and I love Spradling and Southwell.
I’m not going to take too much from an exhibition game, but I like the fact that this team is playing a tough non-con because it will keep them on their toes all season. They have an amazing amount of depth and guys with star potential (Pullen, Judge, Kelly, Samuels), and they have role players galore. I don’t know how Asprilla will fit in quite yet, but he’s gonna be pretty good.
I really loved Spradling. Can’t emphasize that enough.
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I have a huge man crush on Spralding
Probably has something to do with the fact thats he’s shalee with a penis but I regress. I like the sheer number of guards on this team and maybe it was the fact that we were playing newman but we looked taller and longer than last year(probably has something to do with Asprilla being able to jump, which colon did not have that ability). I think colon slowed us down in the spare minutes he played and with the skill sit of Asprilla. I think we won’t lose as much speed as we think with Clemente gone. Passing looks great, but there was some very sloppy play at times. However this was just a game to figure out how all the pieces will work together.
Remember what Kansas said about being deep last year? This team matches that depth I think.
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Okay, I declare a moratorium on the "Shalee with a penis" meme.
Wait, I think it was started by someone higher up the BOTC food chain than I am. Damn! Seriously, though, how could anyone deface the image of this beauty with such a mental image?!?

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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 3, 2010 12:19 AM CDT reply actions
Truly the image of an angel
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Even better
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by TB on Nov 3, 2010 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
I think the only women’s player I’ve seen at K-State more versatile than Shalee might have been Mahoney. The sad thing was that she was too-often overlooked, being on the same roster as Ohlde, Wecker, and Koehn.
by AMS on Nov 3, 2010 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I watched Koehn play in high school.
She was a BEAST on the basketball court — lots of fun to watch her play.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 3, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just looking at the roster.
Don’t look now, but Frank seems to be establishing recruiting ties in NYC. Kelly, Henriquez-Roberts, Southwell, and Peterson are all from the New York City area. Admittedly, Southwell is the only one to come to K-State directly, but it can’t hurt.
Not Frank so much as it is Dalonte.
Fred Hill and Steve Lavin are gonna start giving us trouble up there, however.
We will just have to start making more Elite Eights and Final Fours then...
things will sort themselves out naturally after that.
How did JHR not come directly to K-State?
Because he spent a year in prep school? I don’t really think that should count against him. He was still a 5-to-play-4 player.
True enough
But I don’t know how much K-State interacted with his high school coach in Port Chester.
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