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KSB's Preseason Basketball Non-Conference Prediction

In lieu of a preview of the James Madison game (and because I really like the word lieu), I've decided to make some predictions as to how our non-conference slate will play itself out. As many regular readers and contributors will know, I tend toward pessimism when playing out potential Wildcat scenarios. This post is not much different, in that I don't think the Cats make it through the non-conference portion of the schedule unscathed. Nor do I think they make it through "once-scathed." Or even "twice-scathed." Love this team, but we definitely have some areas of concern.

Click through the jump to see how many "scathes" I see our Cats taking during the non-conference portion of the schedule.

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O'Reilly Auto Parts CBE Classic:  3-2 -- #14
JMU, Va Tech, Presby, Gonzaga (KC); Duke/Marquette (KC)
I see the Cats beating James Madison tonight (crosses fingers hopefully), as well as Presbyterian, and losing to two of the combo-pack of Virginia Tech, Gonzaga, and Duke and/or Marquette. Given the distinct lack of confidence expressed by Frank Martin (and Jacob Pullen, for that matter) in the current players' leadership, I just can't see us getting out of these first 5 games with less than two losses. I hope I'm wrong. I also hope we don't screw around and lose to a tougher-than-most-think JMU squad tonight. If we lose tonight, my "First-5 prediction" drops to 2-3/1-4, with 1-4 being more likely. If we somehow make it through unscathed, though, it's hello #1 in the nation!

Soft-5 Portion of the Non-Con: 5-0 [8-2] -- #11
Texas Southern, Emporia State, @Washington State, Alcorn State, @Loyola (Chicago)
Not much to say about this set of games, other than that it includes our first two true road games, and that Washington State will be (like JMU) tougher than people think.

Last-5 Non-Cons: 4-1 [12-3] - #15
@Florida; UNLV (KC); UMKC; North Florida, Savannah State
I love that Frank is challenging this young team with such a brutal non-conference schedule. It will reveal the character (or lack thereof) of this squad very quickly, to be playing such a difficult schedule. In these last 5 games, I fully expect that the Cats will lose to Florida, win tough over UNLV, and use the last 3 games to make sure that everyone is prepared for the conference schedule.

Further Analysis:
To be honest, KSU has 6 very "losable" games on their non-conference schedule, including @Florida, UNLV, @Washington State, Virginia Tech, Gonzaga, and Duke/Marquette. That's not even including tonight's matchup, which worries me quite a lot. With the lack of maturity currently concerning Frank, I will be more than pleased if the Cats make it into conference play with "only" 2-4 losses. That will mean that we have 3 or 4 quality wins to point toward on our resume for seeding purposes, and that if we're able to pull something like a 12-4 record out of our conference schedule, we'd be able to set ourselves up for a high seed (somewhere between 2 and 4, depending on our non-conference results) in the NCAAs, and a chance at a conference title -- and another deep NCAA tourney run -- as well. But I'll take a look at the conference slate at some point between now and the end of December. For now, my non-conference prediction stands at 12-3. Make your own predictions, or just tell me why I'm an idiot (or brilliant, whichever you prefer) in the comments.

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I think you’re way overplaying the “Frank’s concerned about discipline” thing, because he’s done this schtick before and it’s mostly a motivational technique. So if you were to not worry about that and adjust your expectations, you’d probably figure we’d end up going 13-2 or 14-1.

On the other hand… I think 12-3 is just about right anyway, regardless of those concerns, so if there actually is a discipline and leadership problem, I think 12-3 is suddenly too optimistic.

But don’t ask me. I expected us to drop four games last year before getting into conference play.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Nov 12, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

My thought is that if we get past VT, we could go 13-2, or even 14-1.

If we lose to VT, I think 11-4 — or even 10-5 — is imminently possible. As I noted, we have 6 really “losable” games in the non-con, and that’s not even counting JMU, who make me really nervous.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 12, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm confused as to why you're worried about JMU.

It’s not football, after all. And JMU was putrid last year. I know they’ve been picked fourth in the CAA this year, but a huge jump like that from the previous year’s actual finish always sets off alarms for me that a team’s grossly overrated.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Nov 12, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I really hope you're right.

This just reeks of “trap game” to me, with Va Tech and the big boys looming around the bend.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 12, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

When I think of JM

I think of the March runs they would go on. This game scares me as well. But I think we win by a good margin. Also its raining like crazy here and cold as heck- hope the students dont think its a junk game and still show up to make it rockin!!

by JB-KState on Nov 12, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

last i saw

VT’s backcourt is banged up and like most every team no one knows if they will be ready to go by game time. But that was a few weeks ago…

Washington State is suppose to be whatever again this year— however its on the road to a team that needs to prove last year was last year. Should be a hard fought game.

FL- well ESPN has it as one of the best games of the non-con slate this year.

The Zags and Marq/Duke both really scare me… If we lose the first one in KC will it feel like a let down and there for drop the second? And Duke is just straight up great.

Just my thoughts and what I have read….

by JB-KState on Nov 12, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

ALSO

Washington State’s roster—— 0-SR. 9-JR. 3-SO. 4-FR.

Those JR’s will want to prove something!!

by JB-KState on Nov 12, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

This is from the Pac 10 right?

The league that only advanced two teams to the NCAA? Not worried.

by Catbacker98 on Nov 12, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, right now

I’m just hoping we can make it through tonight’s scare-game, as well as the VT game at 2-0, which would make 12-3 not only possible, but probable, and 13-2 a distinct possibility. If we lose tonight, though, all bets are off in my mind as to how rough the non-con might be.

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 12, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Another Also--

8 out of 10 ESPN experts are picking FL to win the SEC.

by JB-KState on Nov 12, 2010 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

My hope is for the boys to protect their home court this year, full stop

No more Jay-chickens crowing about how they own KSU’s building or any of that crap. Certainly don’t lose to that little weasel Drew at home. That starts tonight against James Madison.

I predict that the Cats will struggle against VT and the Zags at home, but manage to win both. Beat Marquette and then lose to the Duke-bags (blech). I also predict the Cats will lose in Florida. 13-2 would suit me just fine.

Fire Chris Cosh!

by Sean T on Nov 12, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

Dammit all, I thought the yahoo sports page was wrong

I mean win the first tournament game against the Zags and then lose to the Dookies. Why does SB nation not have edit buttons yet?

Fire Chris Cosh!

by Sean T on Nov 12, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I would LOVE to see 13-2!

But as the pessimist-in-residence, I don’t think it’s likely. But, man, how fun would a regular season like 27-4 (14-2) be?!? I wouldn’t know what to with myself if that happened. The most awesome thing is, that type of season isn’t out of the realm of possibility. How effing cool is THAT?!?

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 12, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

que sera, sera

HCFM is the man. He is not going to be content until winning a championship, of the national variety. And once he leads a team to that goal, he will then proceed to say that wasn’t good enough, now we need to win with style. And that will follow with his saying we haven’t won as many in a row as UCLA.

He will always challenge the players to give 110% both on the court and in life. I really like seeing this and that he is upfront about it.

What can we expect regarding wins and losses? Don’t know at this point, I have not seen any basketball this year so I have no idea how the team is playing other than reports. And sometimes the reports don’t mention things that are present (who starts at QB tomorrow?) which you only notice while watching a game.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Nov 12, 2010 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

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