Pullen is on the AP Pre-Season All-America team
by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 1, 2010 4:42 PM CDT
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PrintThis story notes that Pullen is receving a lot of respect around the nation in the preseason. Jacob's name appeared on 53 of a potential 65 ballots. Interestingly, this is one of the few articles that I've seen note his tremendous performance against the BYU Cougars in the NCAA tournament last year. While the game against the Xavier Bulldogs was more exciting, and Jacob's role in that game more conspicuous, holding Jimmer Fredette to 4 of 13 shooting, while scoring 34 points of his own was Jake's masterpiece, and this story notes that. This is just another reason for Cats fans to be very excited about the upcoming season. So, what is your level of confidence about the upcoming season?
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4 for me
Yes, I am thinking KSU without Clemente and his horrible decision making but awesome speed and threat will be better than with him. But I am counting on serious progress from the fantastic freshman class KSU had last year, and help from all the current new guys (Asprilla and Southwell in particular).
However, this is uncharted territory for Coach Martin and the guys, and I hope they can work through or ignore the hype. Look at how hyped Hartman and Lamur were for KSU in the offseason to see how badly wrong hype can be.
Also, to any KU fans out there, I think that Self and his crew should have been voted pre-season #1 given their history in conference, but arrogance is bad. Look at what has happened to Florida and Texas this year in football to see how badly amazingly talented teams can fall. KU’s run WILL end, and I think it will end in spectacular fashion (like losing three home games to mediocre or bad teams), but I don’t know when. As a KSU fan, I’m hoping it is this year.
Back to KSU, I think that this team is talented and deep enough to win the national title with a few good breaks. Clemente will be missed for his offensive potential and how his speed scared teams, but I won’t miss his erratic decisions and at-times awful shooting.
Fire Chris Cosh!
I'm with you.
It would be freaking sweet to knock the Hawkers down a peg or three! I’m not so sure Denis will be as easy to replace as you think, but we definitely have a lot of depth at the guard spot this year.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 1, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
My one reason for giving a 4 right now is this,
I have yet to have seen the new players that we have, and so I do not know how well that we will replace Clemente. I would love to give the team a five, and after watching them play some I am guessing that I will look into doing that, but as of right now all I know is that losing Clemente, and also the transfer of Sutton, is going to be tough to replace.
While I say this, I also understand that we have received many standout recruits this year and I am very excited to see them play, but I am trying to keep my feet on the ground as much as I can while my head is in the clouds. I know that we’re going to miss Sutton for the sheer athletic ability that he brought to the table. The guy was a competitor and a beast and we all know that.
Clemente on the other hand took two things with him. One was his leadership, and the other was his speed. I think Pullen will be able to step up and be the leader that the team needs, but that speed that Clemente had is going to be missed in a big way I feel. I mean come on I saw the guy go coast to coast with the ball past the entire defense in three seconds. Dude was ridiculous.
So, in summary, while I would love to give a five to this very, very promising season, I have yet to be able to bring myself to do it until I see the Cats play against some real competition. Meaning get back to me about four or so weeks into the season and I may have a better barometer on the team.
I voted a 3
Don’t get me wrong. I’m excited about the team. I think this is the most complete team I’ve seen in any sport at K-State since I began paying attention.
But with all those expectations come a lot of nerves. What if the newcomers aren’t what they’re advertised to be? What if our offense is lost and listless without Clemente? What if Luis and Chris really were “glue” guys?
2 for me.
As much as I will love to wrong, these predictions are so hard to guess. First, I do not believe in preseason polls. How can you truley gage teams without seeing them play? You can have all the talent in the world (hint last year’s KU team) and not make it far in the tournament. Now let me be clear saying that I had KU in the final of every bracket I had and I still think they possibly had the best team in the nation. With this said, it is so hard to make it deep into the tournament. Adding in factors of strength of teams you have to face, and also avoiding let downs can send a #1 seed packing early. Now, yes I believe KSU has more talent and experience than last year. They will miss Clemente at times not so much for his speed but more for his prayer 3 pointers to keep us in games. This team has a very difficult schedule starting very early so it will have to get an identity soon out of the gate. I can’t wait to see Asprilla dominating, Judge showing what he can do, and seeing some slashers come off the bench to add to the play of Samuels and Kelly. SO again I hope my 2 rating is wrong but in this case I’d love to be wrong.
i voted 2 as well.
this is totally new territory for HCFM and the boys. they are not used this hype, and will have a target the entire year, not just the tourney or the last half of big 12 season. i want this team to win the whole thing and i think we have a chance, but i have to keep my feet on the ground, until they do show everyone that they are as good as #3, in the preseason. this team has great potential and i’m a ready to see it, but i’m trying my hardest to keep my head screwed on my shoulders. I have my tickets and ill be at every possible game but until 12/18/10 (the night we play Florida), i dont think well know how good this team really is. That game is away, in FL, and by that time we are about half way through our games and till that point i dont think well have a great gage on how this team will be playing come mid Feb. and early Mar. win everything this year and give Pullen a trophy, and make him proud he came back. Go Cats!!!!!!
Go 'Cats!!!
2 or 3?
Really? Seriously? I mean we just had a former 5-star rated player…WALK on. What does that say about the makeup of this team? This season will highlight a scoring threat from all five positions. Stop and think about that a moment. When was the last time we had that? HCFM will have the boys working hard from the beginning and he will have them caring about the system that is K-State basketball. Would you want Martin mad at you? So I could understand a 4 but a 2…just not seeing it. This is definitely a Elite Eight, Final Four caliber team we just will need a few breaks in the NCAA to make it through to the Championship game.
On that devon peterson thing...
Can anyone tell me the story on him?
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4
Maybe it’s more out of personal want, but I have a feeling Pullen’s trophy draught (has never won a championship since like 7th grade or something) ends. Only problem is, I don’t know what that is. I just feel like there’s no way this team doesn’t win one trophy (other than a pre-season tourney) of the following:
Big 12 regular season trophy
Big 12 tourney trophy
or
NCAA tournament Regional Trophy (and thus a Final Four appearance)
I’m Pullin’ for Pullen that he gets a trophy to bring back to the dusty shelves of the Bramlage colliseum trophy case.
4 for me.
And that may be optimistic …
In short, we are returning 1/2 of a star back-court, and The Beard may have a dramatically different role because of it.
screw this, I should be sleeping anyway.
The thing is though,
we have brought in a couple different guys that could play the point guard position so that Pullen could move over to the 2 guard like he was last year. I still think I’d like to have Pullen bringing the ball up in close late game situations just because of his experience and leadership ability, but I think that throughout the game we have the capability to use other guys in the point position.
MAJOR CONCERN
I have for the team is can someone step up and provide another consistent 3 point threat to go along with Pullen. If Pullen is only one that will make things especially hard even with a deep and talented frontcourt
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Our probable 3-spot guys should be good.
Jamar makes sense to me as the starter, and he’s fine as a spot-up 3-point shooter. And McGruder is a good 3-point threat, too.
And Denis (for all I loved about that little guy) was NOT a great 3-point shooter,
at least not percentage-wise.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 2, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
From that article up there,
It looks like Devon is a three point shooter as well. Let’s see how things pan out before we start freaking about about that
I'm already in half freak out mode...
It’s not good.
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In a good way
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Clemente will be missed
way more than I want to think about. He added a dimension rarely seen on a b/ball court – rocket fuel. Relentless, reckless, balls- to-the wall SPEED! The other team got tired just thinkin about him. They always had to keep two back to defend on the break, so we out-rebounded everybody. Sorry. I’m only a 3. And I hope we do way better.
oh hail the Purple and White
I miss Denis too, but
he ran us OUT of quite a few plays as well. We’ll miss him, but not because we’ll be not as good without him. We’ll just be different.
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by K. Scott Bailey on Nov 2, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions
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