Brown and Family Still Seeking Release From Scholarship

Dooley's third requirement to be released: "Number three, how they handle it as a professional." I'm not sure he realizes he's actual coaching amateurs, not professionals. Kds, mostly immature, between the ages of the 18-21 for the most part, do not conduct themselves as "professionals." They conduct themselves as kids, oddly enough.

In other news, Derek Dooley is still a d-bag.

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I'd love to have Bryce but,

when you really get down to it, it’s not even a professional thing. It’s more of a fact that he needed to show respect for the coach and go face to face and ask for a release from his scholarship. I mean if you put yourself in Dooley’s shoes, he is trying to run a team and establish himself as the head of the program. He can’t do that if he’s just letting kids out of their scholarships without having to do the same thing he would make anyone else do. I have been a KSU fan my entire life and I would love to have Bryce as our running back since I went to high school at Bishop Carroll and have seen in person what he is capable of, but I have to side with Dooley on this one at least in principle. All he is asking for is the respect of his players coming to his face and asking out, he’s not saying that he has to do something ridiculous. It’s a simple issue of respect. Give it to the man.

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions

No, he's not

He is ticked off that Brown left, and that h didn’t want to have anything to do with Dooley. Dooley is shooting HIMSELF in the foot, ironically enough, because this type of crap isn’t going to sit well with potential recruits. He’s not so much trying to prove a point as he is just being petulant that BB didn’t do things EXACTLY the way Dooley wanted. All the a-hole is doing is costing a family a lot of money this year, and — apparently, anyways — a ton of stress. There IS a person who should have been “professional” about this, but his initials are DD, not BB. Even other members of the SEC don’t think he’s doing right by this kid.

BTW, you DO know that we’ve already got Bryce, right?

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes i do

I meant want him on scholarship. All I’m saying is that he could have gone to his face and told him rather than through a text.

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions

He's a teenager.

Dooley is an adult. The adult needs to act like an adult, and understand that he’s dealing with a kid who is a bit immature, and under a lot of stress. Instead, Dooley acts like a d-bag, making up stuff about why he won’t release him. Heck, even over at the Vols’ SBNation blog, a couple of the fans there are finally just saying, basically, “What is Dooley trying to prove?” He’s cutting off his nose to spite his face, as they say.

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions

It has gone on a little long

I will agree with that… a lot of this could have been avoided if either one of them would have just called the other one up and talked it out instead of basically fighting it out through stories on sports news sites and channels.

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

Oh, for sure

But wouldn’t you agree that the 42-year-old man has a bigger responsibility than the 19 year old to be the grownup? Instead, Dooley is lording his power over BB in the only way he has left to do so. Basically, he’s being a bully. And that’s why I call him a d-bag.

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Fair enough,

I think that he could have called BB personally before just going and blabbing to the media that he wouldn’t let him out for not coming and talk to him. One phone call would have done wonders and now there’s a whole big mess costing Bryce money and Dooley a lot of time.

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

It's costing him MUCH more than time.

It’s costing him reputation within recruiting circles as well.

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions

But you're right

about if Dooley had just picked up his damn phone.

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

The only reason i could see why he might do this is

because he is taking over after Lane Kiffen just ran out of town and he’s trying to solidify something. Whether or not he is going about that the right was is very questionable, but that is about the only reason i can see as to why he would keep doing this

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions

The story with Bryce is

that landing him was a coup for Tennessee, BIG time. When Dooley couldn’t talk him into staying, it was a slap in the face, as he’d just lost one of their biggest recruits in awhile. So, once he found a way to turn the screws on Bryce, he did so. He knew it wouldn’t make the kid come back. He knew that all it would do was hurt the Browns financially. And he did it anyway, supposedly out of some kind of twisted “principles.”

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 9, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Which is bull shit,

I do understand him wanting at least some level of professionalism from his players, but when you’re not showing that yourself you can’t expect it from anyone else

by tonyg8803 on Oct 9, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions

Hey tony, the reply button would be good to use to keep your conversation in one thread

Just FYI, and welcome to BOTC

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Oct 9, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah i know,

I just get in the heat of the moment and just respond before i realize that it’s not in the same thread. Thank you by the way. It’s nice to be able to talk sports with other people, I don’t get to much sports with my friends around here so it’s nice to have an outlet. I’m a HUGE k-state fan and will be transferring there next year. Can’t wait!

by tonyg8803 on Oct 10, 2010 4:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Well, welcome aboard, then!

There’s definitely a lot of “talking sports” that goes on here!

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 10, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions

I have school loans

I understand not wanting to pay for school, and I think DD is a D-Bag, but what’s wrong with taking a loan for the year?

I had to take school loans and I had no chance of making the kind of money Brown does. He could pay the loan in one swipe when he signs to play Sundays and even if he got hurt and never played in the NFL we’re talking about one year at KSU $12-14,000. The car he buys will cost 5 to 10 times that.

I’ve got over a hundred grand in loans and I make pretty decent money, but not NFL money, and I would do it again in a heartbeat because that’s what it took. If it’s a burden on his family to pay for school then take a loan if that’s what it takes.

DD should have handled it differently, but come on.

by BlackCats on Oct 11, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions

I'm sure that's what's happening

But, the point needs to be made that there are no assurances that ANY football player will be playing on Sundays. Bryce may be good enough to do that one of these days, but if he’s not quite at that level, why should the petulance of a grown man (I don’t know if Dooley is “forty” like Gundy or not) result in a kid owing $10-15K that he otherwise wouldn’t have?

"Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either 'cause they're too scared, or because they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. This is your big chance, and you shouldn't let it go by..."

by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 11, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Then he doesn't belong in any college

Which is really my point. If he wants an education he’d have to pay for it somehow. Would he have gone to college if he didn’t play football? Who knows.

I’m playing the devil’s advocate here. I fully agree Dooley should release him.

That said, it takes money to make money. It would be a small investment in himself regardless if he ever plays on Sunday’s. I had a full ride to undergrad (academic) and a partial in grad school. I invested six figures to make six figures, he’s asking to invest nothing to make eight figures. I have no pity for his situation, but like I said I think Dooley should have released him.

by BlackCats on Oct 11, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions