K-State Slate: 10.15.10
by TB on Oct 15, 2010 8:06 AM CDT
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That was fun.
Postgame Reaction will be ready later today. Needless to say, it will be much more fun to write this one than it was last week's.
Coffman, Cats club KU: No matter your thoughts on Carson Coffman, give him his due. He played one helluva game last night against our in-state rival.
Lack of interest surprises fans: It shouldn't. There were several dynamics at play here. First of all, the tickets cost $90. I'm all for tactics to keep opposing fans out of your stadium, or at least make money off them in the process, but $90 in the great State of Kansas is a lot of money. I remember the sticker shock people got when they heard how much a round of golf at Colbert Hills cost when it opened. On top of that, neither team is all that great, and KU is just downright terrible. There just wasn't anything other than bragging rights at stake, and with the game on TV, it provided a convenient excuse to stay away. A $90 price tag will chase away a lot of the home fans, whereas the $90 price coupled with the guaranteed abuse at the stadium and the travel kept away a lot of the visitors.
K-State defense rebounds: Yes, they did, but damn I wanted that shutout.
Grade card and notebook: This is an honors student's card.
Snyder's belief in Coffman produces big win: I'm not one of those guys who likes to say "just trust the coach." But in this case, as in many other cases, Bill Snyder made the absolute right call by showing his confidence in Coffman this week. KU is just a really, really bad football team, and while Coffman isn't a huge playmaker, he's more than good enough to beat a team like that. Going with Collin Klein or Sammuel Lamur would have invited the possibility of beating ourselves. That was the only way we could have lost that game.
Wildcats relish rout: This quote from Bill Snyder says it all.
"But it didn’t take me too long (during first coaching stint at KSU before three-year hiatus) to understand the value of this particular ballgame for Kansas State people and University of Kansas people as well.
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Sam Mellinger at the Star gives Gill a brutal treatment over this game.
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/14/2316003/blame-for-this-loss-falls-entirely.html
Not that he doesn’t deserve it, but ouch.
Very accurate article by Mellinger....
TB… “guaranteed abuse at the stadium”??
We had a Wildcat brigade set up their tailgate next to us…plenty in our sections, walking around, etc… never did I witness abuse, other than on the field of play. Come on now.
by hiphopopotamus on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure there was some bad stuff going on, just like when NU was here last week
But I don’t remember seeing any, other than a couple of border-line drunk guys yaking at each other. That happens everywhere.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
interesting
My boss informed me this morning that there were fights at the UNL v KSU game w/ people hauled out by the LEOs … first time I’ve heard about that … and the first time I’ve ever heard about fights at KSU game.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 15, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I was in the student section at the UNL game
and witnessed a near fight between an NU fan and KSU fan. Didn’t see who started it, but luckily there were enough cool heads around to pull them apart.
Don’t know why the NU fan thought it would be a good idea to get into a fight in the student section…
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't mean physical abuse...
…but the worst verbal abuse I’ve encountered in a road game was in Lawrence in 2004. Maybe that was an outlier because of the 11 year streak, but I just decided it wasn’t worth putting up with that.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
When I went in 2002 there were so few KU fans the game was nothing more than a scrimmage
I think we’re both relying on what happened years ago in our very isolated case
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
Another KC Star faux pas...
Under the picture…apparently Arthur Brown was playing last night. Even though of course he is not eligible till next year. So kudos to Prizell on that play as he was the one to create the turnover. Who is the sports editor over there anyway?
by Catbacker98 on Oct 15, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Saw that, too
and was wondering if anybody else noticed it.
by CT-K-Stater on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Mellinger is just a BIT melodramatic.
I’ve been as big a critic of Coffman as anyone. But, to call him “one of the worst starting quarterbacks in major-college football” is simply stupid and ill-informed. Even before last night, Coffman was completing around 61% of his passes, with 6 TDs and 3 Ints. Do these writers not do even a bare minimum of statistical research before spouting off?
"Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either 'cause they're too scared, or because they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. This is your big chance, and you shouldn't let it go by..."
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by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 15, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch.
I’ll have to retract my criticisms of Coffman yesterday when I said he was possibly the worst QB in D1 college football. Of course after watching KU play defense, I’m not sure I’m ready to re-evaluate Coffman based on last night’s performance. But to give him his fair due, he did all that was asked of him, did it very well, and deserves tremendous credit for that. And he did that while being under the microscope – more than usual – all week.
But something tells me the next 4-5 games will be a tad tougher than what we saw from KU last night.
Even when he's not great,
he’s not terrible either, though. I mean, this season he’s never had that “blow-up” game, where he just implodes. I thought it might be coming when he threw the Pick6 against the Clones, but it didn’t.
"Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either 'cause they're too scared, or because they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. This is your big chance, and you shouldn't let it go by..."
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by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 15, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Snyder protects him alot with his play calling...
He controls what Coffman can do, in a way.
by WillieWannabe on Oct 15, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we'll have to agree on
“decidedly mediocre” :)
You’re right: so far he hasn’t had a disastrous game and his record as a starter is 5-1 (and the lone loss was definitely not his doing). In the end that is the only stat that matters.
Let’s hope he can keep it up ‘cause starting with Baylor he’s going to face a weekly dose of opponents whose defenses aren’t quite as – how does one say this politely? – lousy as KU’s. As much as I loved the win last night, KU did more than its fair share of finding ways to beat itself in every facet of the game. Can’t hope for that to repeat itself too often.
At least Snyder can't take any blame for this particular cupcake!
And in case you’re serious, I would take KSU’s non-con cupcakes against anyone in the Big XIIs (well, outside of OU). UCLA is probably going bowling and UCF might just win their conference. The Cats haven’t even played their 2nd softest cupcake either.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
Just checking
humor is hard to do in the internets.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
About that 15 for 16 passing
- it should have been 16 for 16. The one incompletion was a clear drop. Amazing. And he was putting the ball in a place where the receiver could run after the catch – something he did not do against the Nubs.
oh hail the Purple and White
just remember
KU was that bad … not sure about anything else.
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions
Oh yes, and notice to future opponents after KSU gets hammered
You guys are in trouble.
I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton
The problem is Coffman was not pressured
Not that that is really a problem, but when he isn’t getting pressured he can obviously make the throws he needs to. When he is getting pressured, however, it seems like his accuracy takes a turn for the worse. His decision making stays pretty clear though, so I don’t know why his accuracy would become so erratic.
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 15, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
Not a Cat Link, but an old Big 8 one, about the SI sports agent story.
Could Alfred Williams be a bigger douche bag? I don’t care HOW pissed you get at a guest on your show, you don’t start yelling at them. And Kanavis McGhee could have talked to the SI guy, if he wanted to. He chose not to, and that makes him look guilty — especially when so much else that Luchs told SI about his time as an agent was confirmed. If I were Williams’ producer on that show, he’d get a “few days off”, if you know what I mean.
"Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either 'cause they're too scared, or because they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. This is your big chance, and you shouldn't let it go by..."
www.bringonthecats.com
by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 15, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
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