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That was devastation on a scale we haven't seen in the battle for the Governor's Cup in quite some time. I sat at my brother's house (where we watched all the glorious carnage on his huge flatscreen television) for a good 20 minutes, just reveling in it. For good measure, we pulled up , to get ourselves even more excited than we already were. How cool is that quote from Pres. Wefald, "If Bill Snyder says he's ready to do this, is there any doubt?" Anyways, after I left his house, Shakespeare's quote, "Cry havoc! and release the dogs of war!" kept coming back into my head. I tried to sit down and compose a rational, thoughtful post, analyzing the whys and wherefores of the game. I couldn't do it. So, I decided to paraphrase the Cry havoc! quote, in honor of tonight's massacre. 

Blood and destruction were so in use 

And dreadful drubbings so familiar 

That mothers but smiled when they beheld 

Their college boys quarter'd with the hands of Snyder; 

Our Old Man, raging for revenge, 

With DT by his side come hot from hell, 

In Ol' Memorial, with a monarch's voice 

Cried 'Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war; 

And this foul deed shall smell above the earth 

With Gill and his boys, groaning for burial.

--Loosely paraphrased from Marcus Antonius, in Julius Caesar.

 

I know we may have a ways to go before we see the glory of 1991-2003 reemerge. But, as I watched the sheer scale of the destruction unfold, I couldn't help but begin to hope. I mean, hot damn! Wouldn't it be a freaking BLAST to run through the rest of our schedule like we used to several years back, and finish 10-2 or 11-1?  But then, the camera swept to the KSU sideline, landing on Carson Coffman. I love the guy -- tough as nails, for sure -- but we ain't winning out with a tough QB, who fights like hell, but probably runs a 5-flat forty, if that. Don't get me wrong, I respect the guy a lot. He's a junkyard dog of a player -- the kind of guy you'd want in your foxhole. But I just don't think he's the kind of guy who gets you 5 more wins in the next 6 games. Two? For sure. Three? Maybe. Four. Highly unlikely. Five or six? No way. So, I set my sights on 2011. Looking at what we've got returning, and the recruits Coach Snyder has already landed (#39 nationally, I believe), I'm thinking the Glory days, when the dogs of war were let slip far more frequently, to the tune of 10 and 11 wins every year, may be returning sooner than we think. What do you guys think? When do those days return? Am I being overly-optimistic? Or not optimistic enough? Or maybe you think that those days will never return. Whatever your view, vote below, and let's talk about it in the comments.

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How quickly do our Wildcats return to the glory days of yearly 10 and 11 win seasons?
2010 (Why not now, you say?)
22 votes
2011 (Just wait til' next year!)
51 votes
2012 (Give Coach some time!)
56 votes
After 2012 (Patience is a virtue, right?)
15 votes
Never (The Wildcats won't ascend to THOSE heights again.)
33 votes

177 votes | Poll has closed

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With Tuggle next year

and the Brown brothers, I just can’t wait.

Well, that’s not true, I can wait if we keep winning this year.

by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 15, 2010 1:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I just have one thing to take away from this game.

Did anyone else see the speed of Collin Klein? I mean if you as me, Coffman gets that same hole and breaks it for maybe a 20 yard run before he’s caught. I’m not saying he played bad in any respects. In fact, he impressed me, but against the rest of our schedule, maybe putting Klein in when we want to run the option instead of Coffman?

by tonyg8803 on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Let's not overstate it.

Klein wasn’t running all out, and frankly looked quite slow while rumbling for that TD.

There was a reason for that, of course; the KU defense basically said “screw it” on that play. Klein basically jogged for 35 yards, and it may have been the slowest 50-yard TD run I can ever remember seeing.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Oct 15, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

At RCT

It wasn’t until the second line of today’s “News and Notes” that basketball season was mentioned. I thought they showed remarkable restraint.

by AMS on Oct 15, 2010 7:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I think there is a 80% chance

We only lose two more to go 9-3 IF we play with some consistency.

20% chance we only win two more.

by BlackCats on Oct 15, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think KSU will ever win 10 or 11 games every year

Bowl games every year? 8+ wins? I think so, but with a 12 game schedule and TT, A&M, OU, OSU, UT every single season, winning so many every year will be a mammoth challenge.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Oct 15, 2010 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd remove A&M and OSU from that list.

They have NOT had our number for a long time.

Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.

by mystman995 on Oct 15, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, but they have money and talent and are just looking for the right coach to become powers

Baylor and ISU won’t ever really compete for conference titles.

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree, Sean

Its all about branding and resources. A&M has the brand, and both A&M and OSU have the resources (God it would be nice to have a T.Boone Pickens or Phil Knight-like alum willing to lavishly splash out the cash for own program).

by CT-K-Stater on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Remeber: Kansas also got blown out by Baylor, and lost to North Dakota State

They suck. You should have won this game 555-7. Don’t get too excited.

by Billgrip on Oct 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

You know that teams don't actually win "555-7", right?

You also know that we just blew out our biggest rival by 52 points, right? If you know these things, what exactly is your point?

"Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either 'cause they're too scared, or because they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. This is your big chance, and you shouldn't let it go by..."
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by K. Scott Bailey on Oct 15, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

A wise negotiator once taught me ...

Always leave your opponent with a slice of dignity. Always.

oh hail the Purple and White

by Furnace76 on Oct 15, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure your negotiator never coached in a rivalry game

I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. - Gen. George S. Patton

by Sean T on Oct 15, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And everyone forgets in that game

that Cumberland had actually disbanded their football program after the previous season, and Heisman forced them to show up and play or pay a $3000 cancellation penalty (big money in those days).

So Georgia Tech routed an intramural team that hadn’t even practiced.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Oct 15, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was no Category

To vote on that suited what I really think.

I think it’s going to be pretty hard for any of the north schools with the exception of Missouri to consistently compete for a league championship. It’s going to be pretty difficult in the new environment. I can see perhaps an occasional 10-2 season for us but 10-2 or 11-1 will be very unlikely.

That’s why HCBS would like to see a 12 team conference and a playoff game. It puts us on a better footing to get beyond the 9-3 threshold. OSU and A&M may not be that much better than the north on a regular basis, but we still have to play them every other year on their own field. We’ll win out share of games against what is the current south, but probably not on their fields very often.

If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.

by ArkieCat on Oct 15, 2010 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

With the exception of Mizzou?

Who owns a Big 12 title and who does not? Don’t undersell K-State.

by Catbacker98 on Oct 16, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

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