OPEN GAME THREAD: Oklahoma State
by BracketCat on Jan 23, 2010 12:00 PM CST
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Oklahoma St. Cowboys (14-4 | 2-2) AT #9 Kansas St. Wildcats (16-2 | 3-1)
Bramlage Coliseum — Manhattan, Kan.
Saturday, Jan. 23, 2010 — 3:01 PM CST
Big 12 Network
For my previous analysis of the Cowboys, click here. To see K-State's game notes, follow the jump.
From the K-State Sports Information Department:
Kansas State (16-2, 3-1 Big 12) concludes its brief two-game homestand on Saturday afternoon, when the Wildcats play host to Oklahoma State (14-4, 2-2 Big 12) before an expected sold-out crowd at Bramlage Coliseum at 3 p.m.
The squad is coming off a thrilling 71-62 win over top-ranked Texas on Monday night, before a nationally televised audience on ESPN.
The win was just the third over a No. 1 team in school history and the first since knocking off top-ranked Kansas 68-64 at Allen Fieldhouse on Jan. 17, 1994.
The Wildcats are 2-0 following previous wins over No. 1 teams, beating Colorado at home in both instances, including a 93-65 win over the Buffaloes on Feb. 10, 1990, just two days after beating No. 1 Missouri and a 71-65 win five days after defeating No. 1 Kansas.
This will be the 114th meeting between K-State and Oklahoma State on the hardwood, including the 14th since the inception of the Big 12, with the Wildcats holding a 69-45 advantage in a series that dates back to 1927.
However, the Cowboys have won 33 of the last 48 games in the series, including an 11-2 edge in Big 12 play.
The two wins in that stretch for the Wildcats came at home, including a 70-61 win on Feb. 2, 2002, and an 82-61 victory in the team's last meeting, in Manhattan on Feb. 9, 2008.
The contest will be televised regionally on the Big 12 Network, as well as nationally on the ESPN Full Court package, with Dave Armstrong (play-by-play), Rich Zvosec (analyst) and Paul Splittorff (analyst) on the call.
K-State moved into the Top 10 in both major polls on Monday morning, when the Wildcats moved three spots to No. 9 in the ESPN/USA Today Coaches poll and three spots to No. 10 in the Associated Press poll.
It is one of the highest-ever rankings in the coaches poll (and the highest since USA Today took over ownership of the poll in 1991-92) and the highest ranking in the AP poll since being ranked No. 9 in the poll on March 13, 1973.
In the first-ever of meeting of Top 10 teams in the 22-year history of Bramlage Coliseum, the Wildcats used an impressive defensive effort to post a 71-62 win over the top-ranked Longhorns.
Texas shot just 36.8 percent from the field, including just 30.3 percent in the first half, while holding the Big 12's top scoring team to nearly 26 points under their scoring average (87.3 points per game).
The front-line tandem of Curtis Kelly and Jamar Samuels combined for 37 points on 60.9-percent shooting (14 of 23) with 20 rebounds to out-duel the Texas duo of Damion James and Dexter Pittman, who combined for 15 points on 31.6-percent shooting (6 of 19) with 14 boards.
The team grabbed 50 rebounds against the league's best rebounding squad, including 19 on the offensive end that translated into a 23-10 edge on second-chance points.
The win moved the team to 16-2 overall this year, which ties for the fourth-best start in school history and the best since the 1961-62 squad also posted a 16-2 mark.
The victory also extended the Bramlage Coliseum-record winning streak to 14 games, the school's longest home-court winning streak since winning 20 in a row at Ahearn Fieldhouse from Jan. 28, 1981 to Jan. 30, 1982.
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Ah, crap
Big XII Network on the broadcast today. I’m almost ready to mute and turn on the radio.
At least they should actually be at the game, amirite?
Looking at Oklahoma State
OSU has a really small group of leaders, with nobody over 6’7" among their top five scorers. I think this may be a game to go with a smaller look. I would probably start Clemente, Pullen, Sutton, Kelly, and one of Samuels, McGruder, or Irving.
Or we can go big and dominate inside
Which would be my preference.
Not really a Lu kind of game, but I see no reason why CK and Jamar can’t flourish today.
Yeah
What I’m getting at is there doesn’t appear to be a good reason to start Lu today.
OK, OK
Blocking a shot without even getting up on his toes … nice.
Uh-oh
OSU’s starting PG is out with a knee injury today.
Denis
The pair of 3s is nice, but he’s going to start getting called for pushoffs the way he brings the ball down the court.
That defensive intensity
will be real nice when he begins to limit the offensive mistakes preceding them! :-)
--VegasCat07
Maybe Frank should have called Knight after all
Our offense looks like shit against this zone. Standing around and playing like we’re asleep.
Agreed!
We know how to play defense so lets learn how to play O!
by PurpleCountry on Jan 23, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Freshman!
I say we give the game to Irving and McGruder and see what they can do! Lets get them some good minutes.
It's pretty sad
when the only guy on the broadcast crew with a clue is the former baseball player.
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by jonfmorse on Jan 23, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Denis is scaring me
He started hot, now he’s throwing bricks, and I think he’s just gonna keep throwing it up there…
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That's what I always like to see
you get called for the charge and miss the shot anyway. /sigh
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Foul should have been on Moses
He hand-checked him and then CK pushed back with the arm.
Weak call either way.
I believe there is a chant for this situation
“Big XII refs suck” is how it goes.
Sweet I like what you do on here!
I came across this blog site last week and appreciate you keeping us informed out here in western KS.
Wow, I might have to just check here every 15 minutes or so...
seems my ESPN360 is several minutes behind your feeds… :-(
--VegasCat07
One thing Wally's GOT to work on
is holding onto the ball once he’s got both hands on it. He’s let way too many boards get away from him that he had in hand.
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He will probably transfer to a spread offensive team like Kentucky
thinking he is ready for the NBA
by PurpleCountry on Jan 23, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't care if they called it that way on our end of the court
But we’ve got bodies flying, and nothing.
What happened to last years refs that let us play good legal defense?
I guess when they aren’t used to seeing good defensive teams they must think we are doing something wrong
Anderson with three
And he can’t complain about that one. Putting his forearm in Sutton’s back.
These motherfucking refs
That call was goddamn horrible.
The guy ran into Denis.
I just threw a container of mints across the room on that one. Broke the damn thing, too.
Is this a three man broadcasting crew?
I hear Armstrong, Splittorff, and Zvosic?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Uh, whoever is throwing drinks onto the court, stop.
We don’t need a technical or anything for that stuff.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was a good timeout by Frank...
get everyone calmed down, get a play to run, and tell them what to do when Okie State has a possession.
Good call.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
And that wasn't a good set.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Brilliant commentary
I always enjoy hearing about how Puerto Ricans “come to the United States.”
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Don't get me started on these guys.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was a bad half by the cats
If we can execute in the second half, we should be OK.
Ready for 2nd half
Kids’ games are done for the day, sitting at the computer with justin.tv and wyattvision.
Did anyone see
the highlight where Anderson tucked the ball under his arm like a running back?
Hmm...second game in a row where we aren't sharp coming out of the half.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I can't watch this shit anymore.
I’ll check the final score later. Shit.
Goddammit.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
We have completely lost control
And frankly, I gotta say, it trickles down from the head man.
At least today.
Jawing?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That was kind of a moving screen.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Well, I'm glad they got them for the illegal screen there.
I’ve only watched a few minutes between the halves, but they seem to do that a lot.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
+ sideways-eight
This is totally embarrassing. And to think before the game I was disappointed it wasn’t on TV…
--VegasCat07
Anything can happen, but I think the guys are showing some signs of mental fatigue.
I don’t know what it is, but they are kind of out of it today. Maybe it’s the officiating, or maybe it’s the way OSU is playing, but they just don’t seem sharp.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
You're supposed to
regain your composure at half-time, not completely lose your shit.
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New strategy
Only one offensively inept player (i.e. Colon, Merriweather) on the floor at a time.
"Pullen... unlucky on that shot"
No… no, I don’t think luck had anything to do with it, not this week.
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There we go. Good rotation, and then we get the ball to the guy with the hot hand.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Alright, we need to capitalize on this T here
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
There you go, CK.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Okay, I may be down with the beard shaving now.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Very nice putback by Jamar to tie the game. Man, he can go up strong.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Here we go
I think I understand Jake’s cunning plan now. He’s not actually missing threes, he’s just using the rim to complete passes inside.
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Taller than Reesing?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
by Panjandrum on Jan 23, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The OOD is catching on...
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
It's peanut butter Kelly time!
Peanut butter Kelly! Peanut butter Kelly! Peanut butter Kelly with a baseball bat!
My teen son
is rooting against his dad, but when he watches with me, we play well. He just left the room dammit. I tried locking him in here…
Chair. Duct tape.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
That's what
she said.
--VegasCat07
by VegasCat07 on Jan 23, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I almost spit out my coffee on that.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Jamar Samuels: America's Favorite Slam Man
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Wait just a minute...
going into break, they described our tenuous 4-point lead as pulling away?!??! WTF?
--VegasCat07
That's all the excuse the voters will need
to put UConn back in the top 10, right?
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Do we want them to win
in non-con games? I struggle with “rooting” for KU or Texas in anything… :-/
--VegasCat07
CK with the sweet looping hook...
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I couldn't keep myself away
What the hell happened?
Yeah, that was it.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
(Expanding on comment)
It hasn’t really been a “physical” game, from my perspective. The refs are calling fouls for breathing on people.
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I think the confusion between us
here about fouls, chippy, Tech’s, etc speaks volumes about how poorly it has been referee’ed…
--VegasCat07
That whistle made me twitch violently
thinking as has been all game, it was another “personal-bubble violation” foul……
--VegasCat07
STOP CALLING ZVOSIC COACH!!!
He coached at UMKC. THAT DOESN’T COUNT!!!
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Moses just fouled out.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Now it's on Monello?
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Well, I don't see this ending well.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Moses actually did foul out that time.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Request...stop the "Left, Right" shit
It was lame when I was in school, it’s lame now.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
I'm ok with it
(and was when i attended games) – so long as we stop when we are shooting the shots etc…
--VegasCat07
Yeah, it's over now. Damn.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
He came to play. Gotta give it up for his effort.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Texas is getting dominated
Also looks like they brought Higgins with them to Storrs.
Double letdown from Big Monday?
If we can just start a small run here
we’ll be okay, ‘cause they’re all walking around with four fouls…
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OK
If OSU is going to knock down contested 3s, there isn’t much we can do.
I was just saying to my dad:
“Now would be a good time for the guards to finally knock down a shot”
And then Denis goes unconscious.
I think that's it
Damnit. I was so hoping we wouldn’t have a letdown.
That's twice now with Frank
I guess that’s why you don’t hand him an extension mid-season right after a big win.
Let me just put it this way
I’m sitting here wondering why the refs couldn’t at least have cracked open the Astroglide.
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The officiating sucked but
we weren’t mentally in this game
by Catfan33 on Jan 23, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, I agree
we played like dogshit… and yet i still don’t feel OSU outplayed us – am I just in denial?
--VegasCat07
It made me shiver...
I think a bit of Pervis Pasco memory came puking back up. :-o (horrified ‘o’ face)
--VegasCat07
I hope Jake learns something from this.
If he doesn’t sit there lobbing grenades all afternoon, maybe we win this game.
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Well
It was fun while it lasted. ttyl
Who am I kidding. Today sucked.
What can/will we learn from this...?
Hopefully something, and something positive…
I for one am not going to be sucked in by any “the sky is falling” talk. You don’t get parades for wins in January and you aren’t eliminated from the Madness with a loss in January.
--VegasCat07
Man, if I was Frank
I’d consider benching Jake for Rodney until the former gets his head out of his ass.
One game is a fluke. Two games is a pattern. The heart and soul of our team can’t play like this. He just can’t. There have to be repercussions.
Sitting him will kill his confidence.
You let him play his way out of it. You just have to.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Kill his confidence?
Boo hoo. He’s a grown man.
He played like shit and we lost. It’s called coaching.
Whatever. This was a team-wide failure, starting with the man at the top.
2-13 on 3s
Really? I can hit that. What a miserable performance. And who in the hell was supposed to be guarding Anderson? Did that person even show up today? What a miserable follow up for the national team of the week. That was embarassing.
A two game slump, in any sport, does not require 'repercussions'.
Good God, man.
Players slump. It happens. The best thing you can do is get him back out there and shoot his way out of it and get his confidence back.
Anyone that’s ever played competitive sports knows this. It would be beyond stupid to sit him in favor of a freshman. It would make Frank look like he’s panicking, and there’s no reason to do that.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
A shooting slump is one thing
But you can’t make the kind of stupid boneheaded decisions our veteran guards made today and win.
Do you suppose Knight was right?
KSU doesn’t have an offense? I don’t know what he was talking about with one of the guards about losing the UT game, but I can sure see that now.
They do
…if they take the time to run it and keep their spacing. Most rips is jacking it up as soon as they can. They need to set up and MOVE…
Well, maybe a flop is what KSU needed
Remember the FHSU game? Break them down, to build them back up.
Our guards always play aggressive basketball, and sometimes, it gets sloppy.
Kansas State wants to create chaos. Sometimes, they get lost in it. It’s not supposed to be clean and pretty.
Everyone needs to calm down. Yes, they played a bad game. Yes, I’m sure they know that. But you are not going to get anything positive from benching your veterans at this point. Fifteen games ago? Maybe. Now? Hell no.
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"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy
Denis only had two assists
There’s your big problem right there.
Never really tired to work ball inside.
This game reminded me of when Loyola-Marymount would live and die by the 3.
Of course we saw what happened to us tonight.
But KSU doesn't need to do that crap
The big men did better in the 2nd half. Why continue to throw up watermelons, when you can at least TRY to run an offense?
This kind of crap will get KSU to a losing record in the big 12
At Baylor, home to KU, at NU and ISU. Playing like this and KSU won’t win a one of those games.
Whoa don't panic...
I mean we had one of our worst all-around shooting performances of the season and only lost by 4 with a legitimate chance to tie or win at the end. So that is something to keep in mind. Look Texas was man-handled today at least we were in it until the end.
God, I still can't believe we lost this game
Ford just owns Martin, I guess.
I want another shot at these guys in Kansas City.
Man, now I know how Texas felt when we beat them in Austin last year, basically with one player.
Most turnovers given up all season
And second-worst margin of being out-rebounded all season.
Jeez.
I can accept losing to a better or equal team, but I cannot accept losing to an inferior team at home due to poor effort. Just pitiful.
KU will win the conference because the Jayhawks simply do not lose home games like this.
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