BIG 12 TOURNAMENT OUTLOOK: 03.12.09 (Open Game Thread)

take into effect that half the teams played the day before?

If you noticed Colorado stayed with Texas, I think, by keep Texas 3 point shooters from getting hot. Abrams without a three? We will def have an advantage down low compared to CU, esp with baby shaq still winded from last night. Shut down Abrams and have Colon play hack a baby shaq when necessary. I’m gettin more confident as the day goes on that we can do this…..Go Cats!

They shoot 31% from three. Odds say that if you prevent them from shooting inside the perimeter, you’re probably in good shape.

Box and one? Triangle and two? 2-3?

…a separate game thread for our game, or do you just want to use this one?

As far as the game itself, we need to run and gun today. Get Texas running and wear them out after having to play yesterday. Especially Pittman, and speaking of him, we need to work on him early in the possession and send double teams if necessary. He’s not that good of a passer and is prone to turnovers when doubled. I like Pan’s idea…let’s pack it in with a 2-3, keep an eye on Abrams, and collapse on Pittman when/if they get the ball in to him. The only other decent shooter they have is Damion James, as Balbay and Mason are about 50/50 to even hit the rim from deep.

Might suggest a little full-court press as another way to wear them down.

I agree with the man to man. I think people are giving Texas’ inside game too much credit. Colorado is not a good judge of how good they are. Pressure man, speed the game up and smother abrams. Like CU I would even deny him the ball as much as possible. He’s their hero in big games. They are blown out by OU last month without Abram’s three point heroics. Assuming our big man can play some decent defense, and I think they have shown that, don’t adjust to them by zoning in a 2-3 or otherwise.

Abrams is their leading scorer and all but one of Texas’ losses come when Abrams is under his average of 16.7. The only loss when he had more was at Notre Dame when Texas lost 81-80 and he had 23. So is we hold him under average our chances go up dramatically. BTW losing to ND?

West Virginia is in as a 7 seed right now in bracketcrappitry? How are they any better than us? And I agree our basketball is funner to watch. What will be great is when Big East meets Big 12 in the tourney. They’ll find out what intenstity is….

They only have one win in conference over a team in the top 7 and they lost to Kentucky by double digits who beat us on a last second shot. There best non conf win is vs Ohio State. I guess when you look at quality wins, they are lacking as much as we are unless you just consider the big east is soooooooo much better than the big 12, which I don’t think is true. We might have worse losses, but all early on.

8:27 to go in the 1st half

4:08 left in the 1st.

12:01 left in the 2nd.

Baylor’s done. I knew they would lose when they let KU catch up just before halftime.

Exactly like the Jayhawks’ games in Manhattan and Norman.

…I’ve been in and out (I’ll save mystman the trouble…that’s what she said) running errands this morning. Apparently Jiffy Lube is very poorly equipped to change the oil in my car.

Bears are giving KU a helluva game thus far. That three by Reid and the sharpshooter’s tip-in put BU in a tough spot though.

…I don’t consider that good for us, but watching KU lose never makes me sad for long.

If they aren’t hitting threes, they’re the worst team in the conference.

Jesus.

Eat it, leghumper!

We have to win the damn tournament now

If Iowa can get a little run in the Big Ten tournament, and knock out a bubble team like Michigan in the process, it will help us.

I never thought simply beating Texas could be enough, but some of these bubbles are busting left and right.

Way to go ladies. Make a run in OKC.

Well, that makes today’s matchup a little more interesting…

Beat Texas, beat Baylor.

We can do this.

…let’s put a stop to that this afternoon.

…we’ll just keep things over here.

and we WILL beat Baylor. There luck will end, and we will still get in if we win both, so screw KU!

…I should be able to find cheaper tickets in OKC tomorrow, now that KU and its flock of fans is gone.

and, yes, I realize that he’s a KSU favorite…yada yada.

I just don’t care for him, and I think he’s overrated.

He’s also a jerk. He used to coach a team when I played little league, and he was a prick to the coaches and middle school kids.

Can I be a Wildcat fan now?

…Jake is pressing Balbay in the backcourt? There’s no earthly reason to pick him up until he’s inside the three-point line.

Kind of missed that…

Not a nasty bald head like Brian Davis.

Boom.

Does that make me a bad person?

They’re allowing physical play down low?

You can’t just stand your fat ass in the lane.

He makes up for his lack of bulk by elevating over his defenders.

i like us pressing the gaurds, make it hard for them to get into a good poistion for a entry pass to Pittman
Denis and Jacob pushing, texas’ big men are tired and won’t be able to run the whole game
Dom being aggresive under the basket

…UT was in a 2-3 zone there.

damn!

…nice swing, Ron, nice hit, Jake.

i’m loving it

When they slow it down, it looks like a knuckleball.

as opposed to just on Jam. Should’ve been a warning first, IMO

i like it, but of course it is a little behind and when there is a time out the “commercial” are crazy loud

Thanks, hippies!

for three!!

Nice shot, Fred.

what kind of presence we have there?

WTF!

I should have taken the afternoon off….

Texas looks like crap. This shouldn’t be tied.

This is OSU all over again. We’re gonna be sitting here again at the end of the game wondering how we lost by 6. Goddammit.

…dunk the ball Jamar! I know it went in, but you can dunk that!

and J.I. Joe looks sweet and same with Transformer 2

His shot line looks awful.

And Jamar is bucking for a technical.

only person to hit a shot.

This does NOT look like a tourney team to me.

Man, I hope the committee is watching.

JamSam is getting after it.

How many does Pittman have? There’s an opportunity here…

Pittman got that rebound and he just ran away from him!

When the ball hits the hands, IT STAYS IN THE FUCKING HANDS UNTIL IT HITS THE RIM.

I mean, that’s fine, but why waste a foul?

No double-capuccino before the games.

I thought a saw a neckerchief.

Make a FT

…Denis gets his shit slung by Pittman.

JESUS F’ING CHRIST

THIS SHOULD BE FRANK’S FIRST TECHNICAL RIGHT NOW

I’ll take it Denis

Denis, we need you next half.

We are gonna rule the second half!

Clearly, we are the better team if we are still winning after THAT.

I’m actually glad this is close. They seem to play better on the edge of a wire. When they get big leads or get down big is when we collapse.

I was out taking Grandma to get her hair done and forgot their was a game…how’d KU do?

Holy crap what an unproductive day…between the dentist appointment and basketball games, it will be a miracle if I’m not fired by 4:15….

Then Jake takes a three from Wichita. Not a good start.

Man, he just hasn’t been good for like a month.

…I thought they were going to foul us there when Balbay fell over.

Dammit.

none.

A five-second call, Denis? Really?!

God damn it.

Push the ball, guys, these guys are gassed.

You really need to heat up.

Really?

because he just claimed Ron dunked…impossible.

C’mon, Frank!

Where are these fouls coming from? Am I just watching the wrong channel or something?

I’m so lost right now.

No Pittman and no Abrams and we STILL SUCK.

Another blown opportunity. These guys play lost when the shots don’t fall.

remind them they have stayed in the game thus far because of defense. Gotta find some shots, but keep playing defense.

Uhh you get in front of him and get low.

…Pittman just tackled Clemente, no call.

They then collapse and block the shot.

yet because pittman blocked it so there isn’t a foul

make a layup!

LEARN TO FUCKING DUNK

I’M GOING TO FUCKING BREAK SOMETHING!!!

Are you kidding me? Pittman is gawd today.

…c’mon refs, give us a hand here.

Dexter Pittman is physically incapable of fouling, per these refs.

I’ve seen three obvious fouls on him not called.

Every Man A Wildcat!!!

Eat’em up, eat’em up!!! Go K-State!!!!

F this.

REBOUND IT!!!!

…on calling fouls on UT.

Is that not one of your cheers?

look at all those empty seats

This isn’t an issue in KC.

That’s Clint freaking Chapman.

And now we score. Go figure.

Jake Pullen wants it. The rest of you need to act like you do, too.

be back after.

Let’s get this thing!

…but you gotta finish that.

if he had hit that…..

OTB on Pittman!!!!!!!!!!

Pittman hooks one guy and fouls another, all on the same play.

I hate gamecast…

he has scored 6 points total in this game

if he is so awesome, why so little production?

Another “and 1”.

NIT, here we come.

…with less than one minute to go. Shades of Stillwater all over again.

Now we gotta make a shot.

I know that you don’t have to, but damn it, just go for the win.

I hope that wasn’t designed.

My money is on Clemente.

We played so bad and still almost won.

Son of a bitch.

Pittman shouldn’t have even been in the game at this point. Should have fouled out.

Freaking Big 12 refs.

on the f-ing NIT.

We’ll always be a fringe NCAA tournament team.

Wally Judge is a skinny guy. Kelly is a little undersized. We NEED big bodies.

Henriquez is a step in the right direction, but he’s too skinny…

I’ve always maintained, year after year, that you need to have true post men. I get what Frank wants to do with a faster lineup, but look a how a guy like Pittman rapes us. Look at how Aldrich and Griffin rape us. You MUST HAVE true big men on your team.

And, no, Colon doesn’t count. Kent doesn’t count. They’re too weak/unathletic. You need bulk to defend these monsters, and we never had it.

I look at it this way: This team has major, major flaws. No posts who can finish, inconsistent guard play, poor shooting in general, bad at FTs.

Somehow Frank Martin coached this team to 21 wins and a No. 4 seed, while Kent, Colon, Brown and others demonstrated considerable improvement.

If he can do that – the equivalent of sucking blood from a turnip – what is he going to do when more McDonald’s All-Americans come in?

Oh, and gw: No guards? Seriously?

1. Rodney McGruder (G/F hybrid, pure scorer, averaged 35+ in HS playoffs as a SR)
2. Nick Russell (Top 150 player)
3. Devon Peterson (majorly underrated juco scorer, rated highly by ESPN)

Not to mention Clemente, Pullen, Brown and Awaji should all get better over the offseason, as will Samuels, Anderson and hopefully Sutton.

I just don’t get the doom and gloom. This year was a freebie. Next year the expectations start. We will contend for the Big 12 Championship. If we don’t, then start the moaning.

Understandable, as being ejected from the tourney always makes it lose a bit of its luster, but still, how about that OU game?

Anyhow, I’ll push a new thread tomorrow, so see you then. Not sure if I will do the computer rankings, given that our bubble pretty much burst.