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Yeah, this is curious.

Waiting for more information. The KU Star earlier mentioned it was in relation to a player. Did he eat somebody? Is somebody missing? Perhaps they need to do a head count. Of course, J/K…

by jboot1 on Nov 17, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's more...

…a case of Perkins finding the excuse he needed to boot Mangino. It’s just interesting to me that these issues would all of the sudden surface in midst of a five game losing streak. Of course, it’s all just speculation at this point.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think that's precisely what this is

Lew is building the case for his dismissal that’s why this stuff is coming to light now.

But let’s be honest – this crap has been going on for a while, behind closed doors. Mangino has serious anger control issues.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're talking about it on 810 right now.

Kietz is declaring it a mutiny.

Supposedly Mangino struck and/or has been abusive to several players, including Onyegbule, Darius Parish and Angus Quigley.

Complaints have been filed.

Grassroots campaign to make Clint Bowen the interim coach.

Please, God, let this happen.

More to come…

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Correction: Not Onyegbule

Some other guy with a similar-sounding name.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is hilarious

Kietz and Clinkscale basically are already piling dirt on his coaching grave.

I’ll come out and say it:

I don’t care if Lewcifer goes and hires Urban Meyer. I’m just glad to see Mangino get his (if this happens).

I think he’s an absolutely classless piece of shit and I love to see karma strike. What goes around, comes around, you fat bastard.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

After the crap he pulled...

…when he left K-State, I agree. Perkins is a ruthless bastard and he’s got Mangino by the balls. If Mangino tries to fight this, Perkins will smear him so badly he’ll never get another D-1 coaching gig.
Also, Lew may be able to go and get a great coach at a lower tier school similar to Brian Kelly at Cincinatti. Better pay, great facilities, a mediocre conference division, and Lew’s commitment to pulling out all the stops for the program (cough, Orange Bowl, cough). However, I don’t think this job is all that attractive under the surface. The biggest reason is the proverbial elephant in the room….KU basketball. That is #1 priority of the fans, donors, and supporters. I don’t think a high caliber coach will come there when they have the option of going to a big name football school instead.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

You’ll always be second-fiddle at KU.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Kietzman just jumped Danny's case

Danny was trying to say that like Snyder, Mangino is not a “player’s coach” and that role is filled more by people like Bowen.

Kietz slightly misunderstood him and said, “That will be the last time today you compare Mangino to Snyder. They are nothing alike, except that they worked together.”

Ouch. Who says Kietz isn’t purple?

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What's up guys...

KU Fan here just perusing the world and seeing how everyone is weighing in on this deal.

Bracket – your comment struck me because I’d agree that Snyder and Mangino are similar in that way but I think as a KU fan it’s pretty clear that Snyder does so in a disciplined controlled way while Mangino is pretty clearly impulsive with his actions and often irrational. It was bound to catch up with him.

This started actually prior to the CU game. I’m wondering now how much of the losing streak is a result of this as opposed to how much this coming to light is a result of the losing streak.

That's what we do at Kansas, we WIN.

by Ghost of Mark Randall on Nov 17, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe so

But I agree with Kietz in that they couldn’t possibly be more different in how they comport themselves in public.

And the difference between the two programs in terms of NCAA violations and questionable behavior couldn’t be wider.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to all that to be honest. I’m not a big money donor, I don’t have a thing to do with AD decisions so I don’t draw my morals from the athletic department. I went to school there, I’m happy I did and I’ll continue to root for them regardless. College sports plain and simple is a business anymore.

Like I said before though, I’ve always respected what Snyder has done and the way he’s done it. I enjoyed the Orange Bowl, was happy that the Jayhawks were successful, but I’ve always been a little leary of Mangino’s demeanor.

That's what we do at Kansas, we WIN.

by Ghost of Mark Randall on Nov 17, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's long been rumored...

…that Perkins and Mangino didn’t get along and that Perkins wanted his own man in there after he got to KU. Unfortunately for Mangino, I think he played right into Perkins hands with his behavior. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Perkins set him up to fail with the whole “History Awaits” campaign.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Reminiscing is fun

Mark Mangino, 2007: “I helped build this program and now I’m going to tear it down.” (re: K-State)

Mark Mangino, 2009: “These sorts of things happen when you lose five games in a row.”

Bill Snyder, 2009: “Say my name, bitch!”

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 2:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Perkins calling a players only meeting?

That sounds like something Wefald/Krause would do.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

They’d call a players-only meeting and invite Ron Prince along to answer questions.

Jeez, what a bunch of clowns we had less than a year ago. Thank the Lord for John Currie.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is funny

At least Ron Prince didn’t hit anybody….

…he just made them run stairs….

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

no, but he did assault the tight ends coach his first year. True story.

by GCat on Nov 17, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I always wondered what happened to the Boss kid.

by GCat on Nov 17, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No,

Matt Boss got run off by Prince. He was a big strong kid, but kinda slow…obviously not in the Prince mold anyway.

by jtarkman on Nov 18, 2009 1:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't

physically slow. The kid was like 6’5" , 250lb and went to state track as a sprinter in high school. I always thought if Snyder could have developed him he’d be in the NFL right now.

by GCat on Nov 18, 2009 1:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More of a "LOLWTF"?

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by MadCat on Nov 20, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Worse....

…exposed them to Tim Tibesar.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

With everything that's gone on recently with KU and "violence"

I wouldn’t be the least surprised to learn that Bill Self beats puppies….

I’m sorry, that was uncalled for. I apologize…to puppies…

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This just in....

BILL SELF HATES PUPPIES AND CHILDREN!!!!

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was told he also said

on 810 that he didn’t think Mangino would be out before the end of the season.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hm

The tweet was just 20 minutes ago or so, so maybe he heard something new.

I guess we’ll see. Promises to make the week fun… and more important, maybe take some pressure and attention off our flop on Saturday.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Official...

…Freddy Asprilla signed with K-State.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Hoo

Take THAT Isiah Thomas!

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My, we certainly took a left turn, didn't we?

Everything’s coming up Wildcats today!

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Catfan, if you throw up a FanPost about Freddy, I'll promote it to the front

For the people who might not stop by this thread (all three of them).

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

….had to leave for a bit. Looks like you got it covered.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Thanks for nothing! ;-)

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2010-11 front court...

….Judge, Kelly, JHR, Asprilla. Not to mention Samuels, Pullen, Spradling, Southwell….ahhhhhhhh.

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 4:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

is K-State actually going to have a post game?

That should set the tone for Jacob to have a huge senior season.

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well it should help

having most of the defenders out on the perimeter.

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True story

I started rattling off our 2010 forwards to my dad, and I had listed six or so, when he stopped me and said, “What about Wally Judge?”

Yes, I actually forgot about a five-star freshman ranked No. 22 by Rivals.com because he comes off the bench and hasn’t shown too much yet.

That’s how freakin’ stacked we are.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More on Mangino

Kietz said he has sources saying players/seniors threatened to transfer and even not get onto the plane to Austin, unless Mangino is let go.

Wow. That redefines revolt.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It amazes me

that they’ve won even 5 games with that type of leadership.

And I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly and nice, you know since they can’t ever depend on their looks…

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by mystman995 on Nov 17, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mangino has lost his Lew Perkins protection privileges.

kusports.com

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by MadCat on Nov 17, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mangino's ethnic?

What the fuck does that even mean?

by Catfan33 on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he's of Italian descent

So, combined with other visual evidence, I am forced to conclude that he really likes pizza.

A lot.

by BracketCat on Nov 17, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOFL

I like it, I like it a lot.

by GCat on Nov 17, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest...his hands are on pretty fricken short leashes...

I don’t think they can say a lot.

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by MadCat on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How quickly they turn...

A year or so removed from the Orange Bowl and now they want him out…college football is a rough sport to coach…especially FBS. If he did something abusive I could see his firing but considering all of the off field antics going on in Lawrence I think the whole athletic department should be under scrutiny by the Board of Regents. Is this perhaps a ploy to distract from the earlier shenanigans or something more specific to Mangino? Hopefully there will be some transparency coming out of this for the sake of the university and its alumni. We K-Staters received a nice dose of reality from Krause’s secret mess…now it is time to see what’s up behind Perkin’s door as well.

by Catbacker98 on Nov 17, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

SOL

Sounds like Gino’s run out of luck.

“That’s life…That’s what all the people say…You’re riding high in April, shot down in May”

by williewildcrack on Nov 18, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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