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Postgame Reaction: Farmageddon

K-State quarterback Grant Gregory invites you to the gun show.  (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

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K-State quarterback Grant Gregory invites you to the gun show. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

First off, my apologies for the game thread snafu yesterday.  It was nobody's fault but my own, as I was so preoccupied with getting things ready for tailgating on Saturday that I forgot all about it.  Not until at least the second quarter did it occur to me that I had forgotten to post it.  Thanks to Pan for getting one up and getting the discussion going, and to all who participated.

Now, down to business.  We'll get to the game itself in a minute, but yesterday made it crystal clear that this series absolutely should not be renewed.  Given that the Chiefs have new management now, I'm guessing they may not have been happy about having these games at Arrowhead to begin with, but after yesterday's abysmal attendance, it's obvious this won't keep happening.  Announced attendance was 40,815, which makes me wonder if the Chiefs even covered their costs for the game, even at the ridiculous $22 per car cost of parking (they're awfully proud of the Truman Sports Complex parking lots).  I'm not saying I didn't have a good time, because I did, and it's good to see your team play only 10 minutes from your front door.

Anyway, on to the game.  Click the jump for more reaction.

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What I liked...

...a little spark at quarterback.  I got a text about 20 minutes before game time informing me that Grant Gregory was likely to start.  While Carson Coffman's struggles this season have been well-documented, I wasn't sure about this news, as Gregory didn't look great when he did play.  For whatever reason, he was a completely different Grant Gregory yesterday.  He looked like his grasp of the offense has improved by leaps and bounds since the ULL game.  Even when his pass protection broke down, which was often, Gregory showed he had a knack for eluding the rush and keeping his eyes downfield while he scrambled.  While I know we're not supposed to say anything nice about the beaks, that's one reason Todd Reesing is so good.  He moves around and gets away from the rush, but while he's doing it, he keeps his eyes up and looks for open receivers.  Both of Gregory's touchdown passes yesterday came on scrambles, one where he found Lamark Brown after ISU's cornerback fell down and one where Brandon Banks got behind the defense.

Even in the running game, Gregory showed he's not afraid to stick his nose into the action and take a few hits.  He ran the option fairly well, although he made a mistake in pitching it to Daniel Thomas on the second drive of the game, almost resulting in a failed conversion attempt.  Overall, Gregory has a lot to be proud of after this game, and it sounds like he was a little overwhelmed to have finally, after five years as a backup, gotten his chance to contribute.  That's the kind of story we can rally around.

...defensive improvement after halftime.  It's really refreshing, after the disaster of the last two years, to see that we have defensive coaches capable of reading what the offense is doing and making the necessary adjustments.  Now, granted, ISU has about the thinnest playbook in college football, as they ran a grand total of about four different plays yesterday (not much of an exaggeration).  They probably ran the zone read on 60-70 percent of their offensive plays, and it was pretty obvious that the coaches made adjustments to that at halftime.  The Cats got better on defense as the game went along, forcing three punts in the fourth quarter alone on three-and-outs.

Despite what he did to us last year, the book on Austen Arnaud is being written, and the plot is pretty obvious: he can't throw the ball for shit.  He completed less than half his throws on the day, and 45 of his 164 yards came on two throws on the last drive in which our defensive backfield made (or failed to make) inexplicably bad plays on the ball.  Props have to go to our defensive coaching staff for limiting Arnaud to 164 yards passing yesterday after he threw for 440 the year before.

...winning the game based on...special teams?  Josh Cherry wobbled home a 39-yard field goal in the second quarter to knot the game up at 10-10 going into halftime.  And because ISU fans had their hearts unceremoniously ripped from their chests and stomped upon because of a blocked PAT, kudos to Cherry for getting all three of his PAT attempts over the defensive line.

...Emmanuel Lamur's ups.  Srsly.

...beating a school whose fans plainly don't like you.  In case you missed it:

K-State is probably my least favorite team in the conference. There's nothing I'd love more than to see them lose and have their fans have an uproar as to how such an "elite" program like KSU could lose to lowly ISU.

What I didn't like...

...some poor tackling, especially in the first half.  Pan noted on the game thread that our "tackling yips" were back, and that was pretty accurate at certain points of the first half.  Josh Moore especially missed a couple tackles by taking bad angles and lunging at the waist of receivers.  He wasn't the only one.  I don't think it's a regression so much as just the fact that those weaknesses show up more against a bigger, faster team than the likes of Tennessee Tech and UMass.  We saw a little of it against UCLA, also.  It doesn't bode well as we move into conference play, but it's going to be a fact of life around here for a while.

...two inexplicable plays on ISU's last scoring drive.  On fourth and five, with ISU playing for its life, Josh Moore tried to jump in front of Arnaud's pass to Marqui Hamilton.  Normally, I wouldn't criticize for making an aggressive play, but Moore left open the possibility that Hamilton would catch the ball and take it to the house if Moore missed it.  Moore did miss it, and Hamilton fortunately wasn't fast enough to break away as Moore recovered quickly and got him by the ankles.

On the very next play, Tysyn Hartman shockingly let a sure interception go right through his hands and, unbelievably, right into the arms of a diving Jake Williams.  I truly don't know what happened on this play.  From my seat, I saw Hartman break on the ball the instant it was thrown, and given where he was, I thought it was going to be a sure interception.  As this picture at Clone Chronicles shows, it's almost beyond adjectives how this ball got through Hartman's hands.

What it means and where we're going...

I'll skip the obvious gloating about being on top of the North standings, given that nobody else in the North has played a conference game save yesterday's opponent.  It was a nice win that showed some progress by this team, but that's about it.  There really aren't a lot of goals for this team other than showing improvement this year.  It would take a 5-3 conference record to make a bowl game and, barring unprecedented collapses by teams like Texas Tech, Oklahoma, KU, Missouri and Nebraska, there's no chance we're winning that many conference games.

Next week, we're going down to Lubbock to meet good captain Leach and his scalawags.  After a concussion yesterday, they may be short a gunslinger in Taylor Potts, but they're still a formidable opponent whose offense has been a headache and a half for Bill Snyder.  If we somehow come out of the South Plains with a win, we could start talking bowl game, but I don't see it happening.  Fortunately, for those of us not traveling to LBK, FSN has picked up the game for broadcast at 6 p.m. next Saturday.

Past Opponent Recap

Massachusetts took a week off before meeting Delaware next Saturday.  The Minutemen remain 3-1 on the season.  Louisiana also took a week off, and will meet North Texas next Saturday in Lafayette, La. 

UCLA suffered its first defeat of the season, dropping a 24-16 decision to Stanford.  The Bruins just can't avoid the injury bug, as safety Rahim Moore was knocked out of the game with a concussion.  At 3-1, the Bruins get red-hot Oregon next weekend in Pasadena, Calif.

I'm omitting Tennessee Tech here, because it really doesn't matter how that team does.

Big 12 Roundup

It was a light week for the Big 12, with only seven conference teams in action.

West Virginia 35, Colorado 24

Colorado's misery continued in Morgantown, W.Va., on Thursday, as the Buffs dropped to 1-3 on the season, with all three of those losses coming on national television.  Until WVU scored two consecutive touchdowns in the fourth quarter to ice the game, CU was always within striking distance, but never could put much together without the 'eers help (four lost fumbles, really?).  Colorado's offensive coaches continue to try to hammer a square peg (Cody Hawkins) into a round hole (serviceable passing quarterback).  Hawkins was 27 of 52 on the day for 292 yards, and tossed three interceptions.  Rodney Stewart finally reappeared for the Buffs, picking up 105 yards on 21 carries, but Darrell Scott apparently had to disappear for Stewart to shine, as Scott gained only five yards on four carries.  The Buff defense had no answer for WVU's running game, as Noel Devine gained 220 yards on 22 carries (yes, that's 10 yards per carry).  It doesn't get any easier for CU, either, as conference play starts next week.

Up next: Texas (Austin, Texas), Sat., 10/10

For more: The Ralphie Report

Texas Tech 48, New Mexico 28

Didn't see any of this one, so not a lot of commentary to offer.  It was dubbed the Dysfunctional Bowl after the two teams' various issues the week before (UNM's head coach allegedly punching an assistant, Mike Leach banning his players from Twitter after some interesting tweets appeared).  Once again, Tech was spectacular throwing the ball (29 of 46 for 453 yards and three TDs, although the three INTs weren't so great) and awful running the ball (34 yards on 23 attempts for a woeful 1.5 yards per rush).  New Mexico put up 431 yards on Tech's defense, an astounding total given that they were averaging only about 230 yards per game coming into this one.  We can only hope Tech has serious defensive issues, as our offense can use all the help it can get.

Up next: K-State (Lubbock, Texas), Sat., 10/10

For more: Double T Nation

Baylor 31, Kent State 15

Even without Robert Griffin and Blake Szymanski, the Bears improved to 3-1 on the season.  Kent State put up 424 yards on BU, though, which has to be a concern for the partisans in Waco, given that it wasn't any of their defensive stars that got hurt last week.  Third-string QB Nick Florence played ably against the Golden Flashes, passing for 216 yards and connecting on 20 of 27 attempts (no INTs or TDs).  Baylor also ran the ball decently well, gaining 158 yards on 45 attempts (3.5 per rush).  Don't forget, however, that this is the same Kent State team that Iowa State hammered two weeks ago.  Conference play begins for the Bears now, meaning they have to find three wins somewhere in that difficult Big 12 South.

Up next: Oklahoma (Norman, Okla.), Sat. 10/10

Arkansas 47, Texas A&M 19

The Aggies took a step up in competition and fell flat on their face against Arkansas at Jerryworld.  Although A&M's offensive numbers looked impressive (458 total yards), they did a terrible job converting those yards into points.  Penalties didn't help, as A&M was flagged eight times for 87 yards.  Two fumbles didn't help, either, but Arkansas turned the ball over three times and just kept right on trucking.  Remember, A&M scored only 19 points on an Arkansas team that came into this game after giving up 41 points to Georgia.  I'm not ready to pronounce the Aggies dead, as they're obviously better than they were last year, but it's obvious a lot of the perceived gains from the 3-0 start were due to the opposition.

Up next: Oklahoma State (College Station, Texas), Sat., 10/10

For more: I Am The 12th Man

Miami 21, Oklahoma 20

I fell asleep in the second half of this one -- yeah, Farmageddon really took it out of me -- so I missed the excitement at the end of the game.  Regardless, OU jumped out to an early 10-0 lead, then found themselves unable to do much of anything right over the next two quarters as Miami pulled to a 21-10 lead in the third quarter.  Landry Jones played fairly well for OU, who played Miami on pretty much even terms statistically despite being outplayed through the middle of the game.  With its second loss, OU's hopes of a national title this year have gone out the window, and it will be interesting to see how this team reacts.  With those hopes gone, this may end up being an 8-4 team, or maybe they'll rally and spoil Texas' season by picking up yet another conference title.  I'm betting on the result being closer to the former.

Up next: Baylor (Norman, Okla.), Sat. 10/10

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Hell, I'M ready to pronouce the Aggies dead

Mike Sherman might be the worst coach in the conference, and that really is saying something considering this conference is home to Dopey Dan Hawkins.

A&M is the worst team in the South. Again.

by BracketCat on Oct 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

…without Robert Griffin, Baylor is going to be pretty bad.

We'll carry the banner high!
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by TB on Oct 4, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm curious

what do you base this statement on?

Mike Sherman might be the worst coach in the conference

Do you question his scheme? His recruiting? Overall program building?

And for the record, Hawkins is 0-1 against Sherman.

by Beergut on Oct 4, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still maintain that he's a bad coach...

because he’s the only one that’s lost with Brett Favre.

Of course, that says nothing about his ability to run a college program, but still…he lost with Brett Favre.

Take from that what you will.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Oct 4, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easy

He let Ron Prince beat the shit out of his team. In College Station.

Of course, Hawk let Prince do that twice, as did Mack Brown, so there’s definitely some competition for the dunce award there.

by BracketCat on Oct 5, 2009 12:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

ah

So it is Sherman’s fault that when he arrived in College Station, we only had 6 scholarship offensive linemen on the team? It is Sherman’s fault the previous coaching regime completely decimated the depth on the roster of both lines through their neglect in recruiting?

Using your suspect logic, Bill Snyder is the worst coach in the history of ever because he let Louisiana-Lafayette beat the shit out of Kansas State on the road. What a horrible coach!!

by Beergut on Oct 5, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except that Bill Snyder has a proven track record...

…of success at the college level, whereas Mike Sherman strikes a lot of people as another NFL retread in the mold of Bill Callahan or Charlie Weis. Further, ULL did not “beat the shit out of Kansas State,” unless you define such a beating as a two-point loss on a last-second field goal.

Serious question: who was the last true NFL coach to have any real success on the college level?

We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats

by TB on Oct 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pete @ USC?

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Oct 5, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Introducing the new 2008 Big 12 Football Champions: OU, UT*, TT*, and MU*!
Now Introducing the new 2009 Big 12 Baseball Tournament Champions: UT, KSU*, BU*, and MU*!

by mystman995 on Oct 6, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few thoughts...

It would be curious to see what would have happened should K-State had scored instead of fumbling the ball in the red zone early in the game. Would ISU have still been in the game down by 14 going into the half? And there is today’s lesson on covering the ball with two hands while going through the hole on 3rd and 1.

Another turning point in the game in which we could have put ISU away occurred directly after the turnover when Gregory under threw an open Snipes. A bit more air and Attrail wins that footrace to the endzone.

Regarding ISU’s final drive…what happened on the previous 3rd and 5 prior to the 22 yard catch on 4th down to give them a chance. K-State ran a successful stunt and someone flat missed the sack only brushing Arnaud causing a poor throw and incompletion. A sack there puts ISU back in their own side of the field and the clock continues to run down to one minute.

I don’t know what happened on the final toss in the endzone, looked like everyone was in good position. Hartman appeared to bat the ball away into the only direction in the world that the ISU player had a chance to catch. And I will say that it was a magnificent catch…kudos on the concentration and effort.

There are things to work on but a lot to look forward to in the future. If KSU can win in Lubbock it would be more than could be expected for a team that was on the road 4 out of 6 games to start a season. Why does the Big XII always schedule KSU on the road to open conference play every year (save one?).

Finally regarding the comment from the ISU blog above, I never thought I would see the day when an Iowa State fan thought Nebraska was more benevolent than K-State…fascinating.

by Catbacker98 on Oct 4, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good points...

…I missed a few of those things. If Daniel Thomas protects the ball on the second drive and we score, do we put Iowa State away early? It’s a hypothetical that doesn’t matter, but I guess the bigger point going forward is that Thomas’ fumble-itis needs to be a fluky thing that only occurs in this one game.

Very good point about Gregory’s interception. When we got that turnover, I turned to the guy next to me and said we needed to run play-action and go for the jugular on that play. We did, and Gregory had Snipes open, but it looked like he overcompensated for the wind that was at his back and underthrew that ball. Again, it’s a hypothetical, but it’s one of those things that can be corrected.

We'll carry the banner high!
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by TB on Oct 4, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as the ISU thing goes...

I’ll take the blame for a lot of that. I’ve probably been pretty abrasive towards them, and I shouldn’t be that way. As an admin on this site, I should take the high road and be mature in my comments.

It’s like picking on a Canadian, and that’s not nice. They’re just friendly folks from the North who just want to eat their ketchup potato chips and gravy fries while watching bad football year after year after year.

Okay. I’ll stop now.

Bring on the Cats
"Without getting into specifics, my exit involves a McFlurry machine and a video tape of risque commercials from overseas." -- Jack Donaghy

by Panjandrum on Oct 4, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gregory

My early perception of him was not positive, but after seeing his remarks and emotion in the post game interview I am officially a fan of this guy.
BTW, scary score prediction from Clone Chronicles, eh?

by rydonmf on Oct 5, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if it's only a two time thing

and even if I couldn’t watch it because it wasn’t on TV here, I’m still a fan of farmageddon. It was the only way I was going to care about this game. I can’t believe it only had 40k in attendance. KC needs to get their act together.

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Despite the low attendance...

Getting out of the parking lot was a nightmare.

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Oct 5, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because of the number of cars?

Or because of the number of people blaring Ratt out of their cars?

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 5, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...traffic.

Not that many vehicles, but it seemed like a gridlock where I was.

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Oct 5, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting in

the stadium was unbearably slow as well. Didn’t hear Ratt but I could hear the faint sounds of the announcer, marching bands, and fans livin it up inside the stadium as I waited for 30 minutes in line to be patted down. Got to see the ending though, that was good.

by rydonmf on Oct 5, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, yes.

How could I forget the frisking?

Hail to the Purple, Hail to the White
Wildcat in spirit, Wildcat in fight
Hail Alma Mater from sea to sea
Onward forever, Hail Victory!

by MadCat on Oct 5, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Attendance

Attendance will grow if K-State’s program continues on the upswing. It might also be a good idea to not schedule it the same weekend as the NASCAR race and a Chiefs home game. In the current economy people are watching their dollars closer and their was a lot of competition for sports dollars that weekend.

by powercat on Oct 9, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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